Grateful Dead

Dire Wolf Cichlids, It's possible but more likely they get their friends to bid up the auctions. Not as likely to be caught. Steve

You can bet there will be some errors. Jays that look like eyes, zeros that look like oohs, and so on. You can't dodge the human error factor...which ironically is why computers get used for these sorts of things. Having said that, there really shouldn't be that many errors. Requiring a database, as mentioned in the autoreply email, to sort them through seems overkill. Even stranger is why bother with emails that bounce? Why not throw that request in the trash and grab another unopened envelope. I see more and more posts about rejection letters since TM, but I haven't seen a single post about receiving an email. If I was in limbo, I wouldn't get hopes up so much as to not think through a plan b.

My wife HATES the Grateful Dead. But apparently she loves me. When I got shut out of CID and missed mail order I was worried, to put it mildly. I went for a walk and went I came back she had bought me a GA Friday ticket for $1400. "Now will you STFU?" That's love!!! Or at least close to it. I emailed Stubhub and they said they could certainly advise me on the validity of the ticket. We'll see. Don't worry though, I am giving away my ticketmaster extras to friends for free!!!

Bobby69 - go here to see the status of your USPS money orders: https://mois.usps.com/pls/pmoisnp/mois_external_pkg.main

No pinky for me in the mailbox today! Trying to hang on to those positive thoughts. Hope the same holds for everyone else today!

I'm getting "no information" on my MO when I check status. Anyone have any idea what that means?

After weeks of inquiry and discussion and investigation and practice, it has been widely determined that the USPS MO tracking is unreliable at best.I know, I wish that was not the case. But it seems to be. Just gotta wait for the pinky or the E-mail

You can also call 866-459-7822 to check your MO status. I'm on hold with them right now...

The dreaded pinkie finally arrived to Rochester NY, postmard Feb 27 from Stinson..... if anyone has spares, I'm Lookin

Maybe it is an illusionBut I cling to a hope that those extra 360 tickets will allow GDTSTOO to fill some more requests. Those of us in Limbo could end up as some mighty miracle workers in the end. So if you are in Limbo and want to share, there is now a thread for us (thank you MaryE). http://www.dead.net/forum/ticket-limbo-support-group

Just talked to a rep from USPS -- you have to have the "official inquiry" submitted to them in order to check status. You have to go to your local post office to file it. She said that "no information available" on their site just means that an inquiry has not been filed on that serial number. Did everyone who got better info on their MO's being cashed already pay the $6 for the USPS inquiry? Or does Western Union do a better job of tracking? Just wondering...

It doesn't help either. No wonder the USPS is billions in debt.

Checking your MO with USPS is an exercise in futility. Gotta sweat it out for news from your mailbox or inbox!

don't know what to do now pink has turned to blue i've had the blues the reds and the pinks all I can say is: this ticket nonsense stinks

A few people on facebook have reported getting confirmation emails last night, but they had low batch numbers. So, those would be the bounce backs. Until someone gets a new batch number or something of that sort... very slim chance so many people got bounce backs. Hey, it's still a chance. Good luck to all.

The upside to all this? These 3 shows should bring out a whole new generation of 'fans' that we older heads can be snooty and 'deader than thou' to... doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyoudottonguefirmlyincheekdotcom

I just got off the phone with someone at the USPS service center and this is what I learned. First of all, you need to file inquiry in person at a post office branch. It cost me $6.10 per order but that was a drop in the bucket compared to what I had tied up already. If you have filed an inquiry they can then tell you if your MO's have been cashed or not. If you have not submitted and inquiry they cannot tell you anything. They are prohibited from giving out information without an inquiry being filed and if they do they will be terminated. Please do not ask the people to risk their jobs so you can find out if your MO has been cashed. It is not fair to them. Also, if you file the inquiry and it is not cashed in 60 days they will send you a refund. This is what had me worried. I got the golden email but my MO's haven't been cashed and I was worried GDTSTOO wouldn't get around to cashing them until after 60 days. I am told not to worry. USPS MO's are ALWAYS GOOD. They can never be voided or canceled, ever. If you receive a refund check, and then the MO's are cashed, the USPS will bill you for the refund as they will have paid out twice for the same MO. Hope this helps clarify the MO situation.

And yes... I am working on changing my username!! I meant no disrespect in choosing it - it's a medium story why I did - I won't bore you. But Bach 2 Bach is right in his meaning. The higher-than-thou-ness is not necessary to preserve the love and vibe around the music, the community and the Dead, and it certainly isn't what attracted us new fans (no quotation marks needed) to the triple gem of it all. (I'm relatively new - having been soaking up the recordings and tribute shows for 20+ years) People like Stank and me, who have had only the teet of bootlegs and tribute bands to suckle from and get the milk have still gotten the proper nutrition, and we are grateful. I know it's not going to be like it was, but I have faith that those who are "true fans" and even those who simply have the vibe are all going to come together, and along with the amazing musicians on stage, are going to produce a community experience that will be amazing, and at the end we'll all be further along <3 Separating one's self from Phish phans is the same thing. I know it's human nature - we want to feel included and safe and special. But separation and ostracization is not necessary for that. We've all learned that from our experiences in life, and especially for some of us, from the music and the experiences we've had enjoying it/with our friends. Peaces.

You both make good points...ain't got time to hate.... I look forward to meeting up with some Phish phans and saying that Trey guy can rock! Glad he's here, and you're here, to support the cause. It's only rock and roll friends...and and young or old, we each can support each others' journey. "Dust off those rusty strings just one more time, gonna make them shine..." You do that gentlemen, and we'll listen, and dance, and sing, cause we know how the song goes...and if we don't we'll learn...and if we've forgotten we'll ask for help. They aren't the best at what they do, they're the only ones that do what they do. Let's let them do it "one more time" and celebrate together. Peace. g

I don't understand limbo. I thought there was a bounce back email from elvis at GDTSTOO that VERY CLEARLY said if you haven't received a congratulations email you were s.o.l.? Am I missing something or are people just hoping for a miracle. Is there some reason to doubt the authenticity of that email?

Email was likely authentic...human error in email either illegible or GDTSTOO error...In typing... Keep the faith....

Maybe cuz there was a reason certain requests were honored, and with integrity the fine folks at GDTSTOO are doing their best to uphold their initial choices.... Guess the fact that I print like a catholic school girl didn't hurt my chances.... Just kidding, my chicken scrawl is indecipherable

I don't think Elvis's email was very clear. What is a few? They were 75% complete over a week ago. My neighbor got his pinky here in Ohio on January 31. I still wait... Based on the sampling of peeps on here and the ones I know and have spoke to personally, over half are still in limbo. If this is true...there should be a few (thousand?) "bounced" emails coming, OR/and a shitload of pinkies. I don't want to read the BS that will be on this thread if/when that happens.

25% is 15,000....still hope

And 10% of that is 1500.... Even if 10% of that is honored....its a glimmer of hope... Just a little light

when did you get your golden email?

I find your use of the word ostracization very strange.... ...but totally appropriate! (even if it's not a real a word) ;-)

How low can you go???? (sorry, someone asked for a "little" light, my attempt at a little light humor) No disrespect to those who are in limbo hell...

I've been mailing for tickets since late 70s/early 80s,still have hundreds of GDTS stubs, I think I might have been rejected once, so when I read of people with multiple orders and second day postmarks it just sucks and doesn't seem right. How can they ignore the rules they set up? Why didn't they give more people partially filled orders? Why are they playing in a shitty old stadium in the city? Why not out in a big venue? Buckeye Lake, Alpine, or play at burning man? I'm feeling a little bitter, two days notice made it tough to arrange funding, and the interminal wait for pinkies, really WTF. Congratulations to all the lucky winners, just feeling so friggin let down, not that they owe me anything, just seems it could have been handled better, hard to believe they didn't expect demand to be high, they seem to say that for every big expensive box set, the '72 Europe comes to mind. Ya , feeling bitter, but I'll get over it someday.

I am not actually sure when my mail order letter was postmarked, but I put it in the mailbox out front at the actual US Post Office drop-in mailbox. My wife assured me that it would be postmarked that same day, I dropped it in at 6:45 AM on morning of Jan. 20. When I got the returned (white colored) pink slip, it said nothing about the postmark date and there is no way to know from the returned envelope what the original postmarked date that was on the outgoing letter since I did not have a person postmark it in front of me. But still, that one guy that claimed he mailed his out on Jan. 21 and got his order filled REALLY BURNS ME UP MAN! So yeah, a lot of us are feeling the sharp stinging pain of what would appear to be human error on GDTS TOO's part.

Buckeye Lake and Alpine Valley each hold about 40,000 people, vs. 70,000 in Chicago. Soldier Field isn't perfect, but let's not make these tickets any harder to come by than the already are.

I don't believe the 21st postmark story and I think the multiple orders filled is only if they are separate orders for each date.

Thank you for the validation. I usually revere the alphabet, respect the English language... but "ostracization" was exactly what I meant, so I had to make an allowance ;) ... okay I could have used "ostracizing" I guess.

I ordered 2 tickets for any 1 date and provided 2 money orders for the 2 lower price levels. I didn't have the cash to shoot for the $215 price level so my request wasn't ANY/ANY, just Any day. Thinking back now I should have provided 3 money orders to cover all bases, instead of just 2. But still, if the same certain someone sent out separate envelopes (same name and address) and got more than 1 filled, how is that fair that my 1 envelope got rejected but their multiple envelopes were filled? Would be more fair to spread the tickets around to as many different people as possible, giving more of us a chance to get into 1 show. They were obviously overwhelmed (an understatement), but just sayin'...(it's all moot now)

Although this is completely non-relevant, I find nothing about your username to be offensive or inappropriate. You wanna be MountainGirl15, you keep on being that. I got no problem with it... Be yourself! (no one else is gonna be you, so you might as well be you) :-) :-))

" Dead concerts such as this one add to the lore behind the venue. Estimates of its capacity range from 40-60,000, with some of the biggest and most famed lots of the early 90’s " This from Buckeye lake web site, so maybe a few less seats, but no presales to football fans looking to cash out. Again, my dejection from my rejection is definately clouding my thoughts, it is just so dang sucky to miss out on one last chance to get back with my brothers and sisters and add another memory to my sizeable collection. I just got my pinkie yesterday and as with any grief, it will take some time. I will pull out some vinyl tonight and do my best to speed up the process with some old green label Warner Bros releases and some other green and get rollin' To all with tickets, have a fantastic time!!!

The Pinkie Blues are gonna catch up to most of us before this is over.I keep holding on to the image of thousands of viewing parties tuned into to the Stream when the first mighty chords on struck on the first night. What a shout there will be across the land.

Hey...got the Pinky today (sigh). It's such a bummer...I wish all you "limbo-ers" still "limbo-ing" out there the VERY BEST OF LUCK!!

still hangin on the back of that bus, I'm not letting go until I get some info!!!!

We need to have our own pinky conference and start our own special 12 steps to recovery program. And the 12th step would be... ...we all get tickets and get to go to the shows! Let the healing begin!!!! (for the record I am not in Limbo, I am a dejected rejected loser like most of us, got my rejection Jan. 31)

Phishheads phishheads rolly polly phishheads Phishheads phishheads eat them up yumm!

Trey is a pill head whose been gravy training off the Dead scene for 20 years.....call my agent on Stubhub...see if we can get floor seats! Those offended...see YouTube...Hitlers reaction to Dead reunion... Nothin left to do but... :-) :-) :-)

Dr. Demento !!!

Lying on the floor laughing?Laughing on the floor loaded? Lots of F#cking laughter? Losing out for love? Left out of final lament? Love of flying lemurs? Any other guesses?

Or did you mean ROFL? I'm so confused... he-he

Love of a fallen loser. :-)

:-)

Thanks for the definition Kristine! Nice job picking up the "demented" reference.

Got extra tickets, my precious?

My email came at 11:31:54 CST on 2/26 batch #385