Grateful Dead

That could certainly happen. I have to think that since they are so slow, they are verifying every email address not just bounceback ones.

on GD50 Limbo on facebook. email time 15:38 from gdtstoo. batch #170

Hey now... So if you're like me, I was shut out of tickets and am now forced to keep an eye on the e-bay, StubHub, re-seller market. Since the ticket master debacle, I've been closely watching prices, seats, Bears season ticket holder offerings, and yes, lucky GDTS TOO golden e-mail recipients, all with tickets to offer. Folks, e-bay auctions are ending, tickets are selling, and dead heads are buying tickets and they're buying them at incredible price points. A decent pair of tickets, "decent," defined as a seat with a view of the stage, are selling for a minimum of $1,750 a pair. This is for 300 level seats. 100 and 200 level seats are an order of magnitude above that. The times, they are a changing, gang. Dead heads are older, wiser and in this case, prepared with resources to buy, buy, buy. I was hoping to see a decline in prices but I just don't see the laws of supply and demand working in my favor. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

good reads: http://www.quora.com/Do-scalped-tickets-get-more-or-less-expensive-as-y… http://www.ticketeconomist.com/2010/05/05/resale-prices-what-goes-up/ http://www.ticketeconomist.com/2009/02/10/the-economics-of-tickets-when…

As someone else has pointed out, we will most likely have to wait until June when the actual hard tickets are printed and available before we see any real price drops, if this theory holds water. At this point I don't see them dropping significantly before showtime, but no one really knows. I am in the same stinking sinking boat as all the other poor ticketless #%$@s out there! Bleak and grim are what we are facing trying to get non-scalped tickets. Imagine 100,000 deadheads trying to acquire 500 tickets. This is what I feel are our odds are to get just 1 ticket. We have .5% chance, or 200 to 1 and I think I am overestimating our chances. Hard to stay positive when it seems almost certain that you will not get a ticket. But I got my ticket to Veneta, OR...(just need a time machine now)

Got mine returned yesterday. Everyone have fun, going or not. If you have not heard, keep dreaming. As to secondary market prices, I would guess sales right now are to buyers who do not care about price paid, and persons who are panicked about missing out. Both types are in the sellers' favor. If prices are going to come down, it will probably not occur until May. Prices now are just prices now. They do not show what prices will do two plus months from now. I am in the process of listening to '74 straight through. So amazing, the best year?

Someone else posted an email from batch #170 on fakebook an hour ago with the same time stamp as the previous postee email from batch #170. That's two from the same batch. Not sure if we've seen that before. I guess it doesn't mean anything besides the may have mistyped more than one email from that batch. Edit: As someone noted in a response to the fakebook post about receiving an email today, "So could be a long time before they get into the 400's at this pace!"

It is unsettling to know that MO's were cashed and no information with no email. All lines of communication are closed right now and that is unsettling.

GDTSTOO is a righteous organization....they will make good on either tix or pink slip...which unfortunately is white.....it's evidence based!

No question about the stand-up nature at all. Without love in the dream...just worried about my original post about cyber-oblivion...not really a way to plug-in that type of snafu into a database of bounce-back email situation

Feeling like...William-O, my guineas are too few...

That is the best dead related reference.... :-) Ooooohhhhhhhhyeahhhhhhhhhhh! Donna sez hi!

I just hope for the love of everything we (fans) believe in that no one burns their cities or destroy all the ladies in the area-o...cuz they can't get in.

Never got the song til the 93 Dead thing....saw Joan Osborne (fake Donna) n the boys minus Jerry with Jimmy Herring tackle it from the 12th row.....awesome.....the fact that Hunter n Dylan opened didn't hurt the buzz that night. I now look back at previous Peggy-O's in awe....

Peggy-O is one I consistently search for new versions of on the Internet Archive.What I like about those performances, similar to Althea and Stagger Lee, is Jerry singing a song he really (currently) likes and trying to show a crowd that does not yet love it, why he loves it. Cool down boy, Settle back (still in limbo) easy Jim

Couldn't have said it better....while Stagger Lee isn't on my top forty....Althea is haunting through the years... Thinking a lot about less and less.....

when go to heaven came out in 78 or 79 (whenever), i thought, althea was ok, but wanted to hear it live. I didn't see dead live until june 80 in tempe, az.: I got it then...great tune....still love it. Peggy O has always been one of my favorites. heard it at my first dead show in landover, md in 76. i really didn't know what to expect in a live show at all, but it wasn't what I got. Peggy O was just perfect...one of those atypical rock song, with atypical lyrics, played in atypical manner, and it all just fit.

Mailed my MO from Key West with a return envelope going to NY. I have not received an email message. No pink slip or rejection and the MO's are not cashed. They are Western Union MO's. I appreciate the updates people are sending.

I love listening to the April '78 run of Peggy-Os and hearing how Jerry approached his solos so completely differently from night to night. tfonts, I've been watching Stubhub for a week and here are my thoughts: the supply went up a couple hundred per night and then remained pretty steady since then, although it looks like some Fridays have sold or been pulled (we're talking a dozen or so). It's hard to know because I'm sure scalpers hold back tickets and use algorithms to dictate how many to put out at what price. Specifically, I'm watching two things on prices just to keep it simple. I'm looking at Friday low-end, which has dropped from above $500 for every listing to 29 listings now available below $500. Not a huge drop ($50-100) but consistent each day. Second, I'm looking at GA because it has a larger ticket pool of identical tickets. I can say that I haven't seen a single 3-day pit pass or GA floor sell. The available numbers are exactly the same. The prices have come down a lot ($1,000-1,500) but it may just be that they were way too high to start with. I shudder to think what will happen when jittery fans cave and overpay because they see a $50 price drop or some other compulsive behavior starts the buying. The other GA single night tickets are coming down as well. I don't know what it all means but it's interesting to observe. I'll probably post occasional updates unless people get sick of it. Cheers.

mailed in on the 20th with USPS money orders. requested 4 tics on the 4th and 4 tickets on the 5th. No returned $-orders and no email. Paid $6.10 at the post office today to see if the orders have been cashed. When I get word I'll give another update.

Hey everyone - like a few folks I've seen on this thread, I've been a member of the forum for a few years, but it wasn't until now I felt like I had a reason to post. I wanted to share a little of my experience along the journey. First, I want to say I've really appreciated the information and stories I've read throughout the past two months - thank you. I'm not a seasoned Deadhead, but rather a seasoned Phish head. I understand that brings up various thoughts and feelings, and I respect that. I began listening the the Dead well before Phish - records of my dad's and stealing his studio tapes (late 80s/early 90s). My summer jobs in college had me hanging out with many Deadheads and I remember very much when Jerry died and how sad my more seasoned friends were and how sad I was that I would never see a band I was starting to enjoy and relate to. Awkward in the bar scene as I came of age, it was Dead cover bands that helped me feel comfortable and learn to let go, dance, hear the music, and not worry about what others thought. I started going to Phish shows in '96 and was completely blown away. Throughout the years, I always felt somewhat inferior that I didn't go on tour or live the life that accompanied the music that I loved. I was focused on a career and believed that one day I would have the opportunity to travel and experience life beyond a weekend. Those years passed and the state of the world took grasp and I enjoyed being a weekend warrior with Phish and then bands like moe. and Umphrey's McGee after Phish went on hiatus. But, it was always the Dead that was the grounding thread and constant comfort in my life. Cover bands, bootlegs, and the occasional times I was able to see JGB, Phil/Trey, Phil & Friends, Ratdog, and Further. The Dead was there as the unifying music with folks of all ages at bars, town fairs, parties, and concerts on the green (I live in Vermont). The Dead was there as the soundtrack to planting my gardens and planning my marriage. The Dead was there for cooking and loving and road trips - both psychedelic and to visit family. And the Dead was there when Phish came back and the scene got too harsh and something I could not handle anymore. To me, when there was nothing left to play and no more party left to be had, it was the Grateful Dead that brought calm, perspective, and peace. It's been over four years since my husband and I went to any big shows and we're very content living in the mountains, working hard by day, and stewarding our land when not plugging through to make ends meet. A few years ago we discovered a gentle, old school festival in New Hampshire - Jerry Jam - and we have been quite content spending time with or Grateful Dead family there (I just turned 39). When Fare Thee Well was announced, we had already been saving money and planning our first vacation since getting married in 2011 - interestingly during July 4th weekend. That night, we decided to buy plane tickets and switch our vacation plans to going for a CID package. I remembered the past 20 years of always waiting for that time when we could travel, and how that didn't really turn out the way I thought when I made those decisions many years ago to focus on a career and not tours and travel. We looked at each other and said, "we need this, otherwise, why have we been working so hard and waiting for the right time to do more than a semi- local show or a sate park camping trip?" So we booked the plane and had no idea these shows would be such a crazy demand. We didn't do mail order because we didn't think we would have a problem getting a CID travel package. Were we wrong! Needless to say, we didn't get CID, even with multiple computers, browsers, etc. And we didn't get TM either. But we had made the decision to go. Luckily, I have a cousin in Chicago, so we coordinated a place to stay and moved out of the mindset of a hotel/vip vacation and into how to get tickets. We purchased two 3-day passes side stage, 100 section on Ebay for just a little under what a CID travel package would cost. I understand that is crazy to many, but to us, we had already been planning for a certain level of cost, so we went for it. We feel comfortable with the purchase and have had good communication with the seller, who, like a few different sellers we have come across on Ebay, are heads, but are selling to cover other costs. I know that is awful to many folks on this board, but to us, it felt like the safest thing to do and we just have to trust the tickets will get mailed to us in mid-June. I wanted to not only share my story and experience because I felt like sharing and connecting, but also because through this experience we have learned that Ticketmaster will not transfer tickets from one account to another, even though many sellers are saying they will do that. It is not an option with these shows and our seller has shared all of the correspondence with TM. So, as folks start to look at scalping options and Ebay, please be forewarned, this is not an option. If you purchase through Ebay, the only guarantee that you will get the tickets is researching the seller and trusting they will mail you the tickets in June in time for your departure. Many of the Ebay packages say they will transfer the tickets via TM, but it can't be done for these shows. I have looked for other info on this on the web and through Phantasy Tour threads and have found nothing, so I felt like it would be useful to share. Yes, we are paying well more than face, and I understand there are many judgements with that, but it was less than what we are seeing on TiqIQ, Stubhub, etc. and it was the decision we made. I wish everyone the very best in their quests for tickets and journey through life and the music. Much Love and Light from Vermont...

Enjoy the show!

Yeah that one was never on my radar since I was never a big fan of the 80's...granted Brent was amazing and really got the dead sound, but Jerry seemed to be in and out depending on the degree of his habit at that stage...that said, Althea was another that just grabs you and is haunting...two perfect songs, Jer was always magnificent and Hunter, well Hunter is and always was one of the best poets/lyricists to ever grace this fine planet...amazing how both were such kindred spirits and kind souls to the core...I see interviews with Hunter and I think, god that guy is so humble and thoughtful about those he loves...truly what the dead embodied.

I here you I am in the same boat brother my faith in friends got me scammed at 400 last night i am still holding out faith that I can make it to the show to represent my pops. Good man hooked me on jerry when I was young. I'm to young for the dead shows they ca,e tomdenver when was in high school but I was Metallica then. Have a great show peace I call it the Toledo Ohio feast Craigslist sucks

50 Days to get my pinky for the 50. Shitballs

There's not much you can do if you live across the country. The expense of the trip mandates that you have to look at the scalper market differently. You have a friend to stay with which will reduce your cost. I'm in a hotel. I'll be $5000 into it without even ticket cost. Like you, it's not sensible to wait til two weeks before the shows to buy tickets. First and foremost, you have to get a ticket otherwise a) the expense to be in Chicago is all wasted and b) you won't see the show. Secondary to that is getting a cheap ticket and that just plays out differently if you are local versus from afar.

I've been watching mostly Sunday and 3 day. Numbers of 3 day have been holding and prices more or less the same since the start of the week. Looks to me like additional tix have been added to Sunday, but most if not all have been in the GA field section. There doesn't appear to be any sales in the GA field. There are small movements down in GA field prices, but overall they haven't really come down. Low was around $1300. There are a couple at $1100 and $1200 now, but the rest are still holding at $1300+. The low for Sunday has dropped but not by much and that's all been in the worst sections. I've been watching some of the better sections specifically and they haven't moved in price and there haven't been additonal tickets added. Those sections had some sales. So, it makes sense. Prices holding in those sections with small movements down in sections with no sales.

How did you get scammed for $400? Please elaborate.

Don't be suprised if something big happens in SF Bay Area later this year after Chicago.

Good post, Sam3b - appreciate the knowledge. I too have been watching like a hawk, daily. Asides from available tickets, I'm watching tickets sold and for 300 level seats with a stage view, there are pairs and pairs selling in the $1,750-$1,950 range. As I posted earlier, some are TM tix, and some are the commemorative MO tix - neither of which are physically in anyone's hands. I for one do not think these shows will follow any of the usual or customary secondary market trends regarding prices. I say this because of: 1.) the unprecedented uniqueness of a single venue, 3-show 50th anniversary celebration, 2.) the legacy of a multi-generational fan base, and, 3.) the purchasing power of the buyer (there are many, many deadheads TODAY that can and WILL pay to see the boys one last time - times 3 shows). I would welcome other thoughts on this. Though ticketless for now, I have air and hotel booked and I'm not about to cancel either.

bariumoxygen lawrencium lithium oxygen carbon potassium sulfur just release some freakin' GD. 6/10/73 1/6/78 1/7/78 1/11/78 9/20/70 Well, come on! I'm so happy, 'cause today i found my friends they're in my head I'm so trippy, but that's okay, cause so are you We've broken our mirrors (mirror shatters) Sunday morning is everyday for all I care And I'm not scared Light my candles in a daze Cause I've found God yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm so happy but that's okay I shaved my head And I'm not sad And just maybe I'm to blame for all I've heard But I'm not sure I'm so excited, I can't wait to meet you there (in Chicago for FTW) But I don't care (I'm not going, and am glad I ain't playing this ticket nonsense game) I'm so corny but that's okay My will is good I like 'em, I'm not gonna crack I miss 'em, I'm not gonna crack I love 'em, I'm not gonna crack I spilled you; one man gathers

It was mentioned here yesterday I think that TM tix are not transferable....not sure how, but what's your take on this...I know CID VIP packages can not be scalped, because the potential scalpee or buyer must produce a copy of the original purchasers drivers license or other picture ID as well as original credit card used for purchase and a letter authorizing the transfer. CID tix will not be available til 10 am CST on July 3rd.....for pick up in Chicago.

There are a lot of happy people over on the facebook limbo page in the last 48 hours. Those of you in limbo, keep the faith!

Come back to us.Follow the sound of my voice

Hey now rgergelis: I've never heard of a TM ticket not being transferrable. TM even has an option now on their web site that let's you do so. Worst case, the ticket owner can print a hard copy and FedEx to the buyer. CID I distinctly remember offers an "out" on their package and a transfer. Not sure of the specifics but the CID package owner has to personally contact them and provide all the details. I wouldn't think CID cares of tranfer pricing (i.e. uplift scalp) but rather the new CID package owner. My two cents...

I just got done with CID and transfer even within a nuclear family is no easy process...if my boy goes instead of me he needs my drivers license, my credit card and a signed letter authorizing his use of the select package purchased by me....the letter is the easy part, but what scalper is gonna give up his/her license and original credit card for the sake of profit? Again, I did read on one of these sub forums about the special nature of this event and that TM seats may not be transferable, I was at a Springsteen gig in Cleveland and in addition to the TM ticket had to have my credit card swiped....all in all some scary shit, considering the risk of identity theft. Oh well, back to the grindstone....Peace....

So what I am hearing is that there are lot of scalpers out there that got scalped and unless a kind soul brings you in with them, you as a ticket purchaser are f'd...now that raises the question of people who purchase from resellers - a good example are the tickets that Roadking sold here. They were purchased from a reseller (like stubhub - but not stubhub) with a view, BEFORE the TM sale, so they were decent seats for a semi-decent price. (aside: Roadking IS a head and sold the tix to another person on this site for what he paid for them - still above face value, but he did not sell them for the $1200+ they are going for online when he sold them; as I have said before, solid dude) I wonder how that all works - because I seriously doubt the venues would make issues for a reseller. Also as an aside, I also suspect that if that IS indeed the case (a credit card needed to swipe that the reseller has entered) that Roadking would walk the dude he sold to in...

That's what I'm doing with my son in Chicago, will sign for the CID tix and get him and his lady in the venue....Still don't see how even TM tix are being sold...if they're not in hand, it's a faith thing, I have no faith in scalpers at all.

here is one that is 2 hours to go on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grateful-Dead-Tickets-2-Premium-3-day-passes-7-…

All I can share is my experience....I bought one, want to pass the tix to my son and his better half, tix not in hand til 7/3 to be picked up in Chicago by me....or him with my license, my credit card and my letter authorizing the transfer of ownership....that's what I was told...

Did you call and speak to someone? I read they can change name at their "discretion". Still, that would not comfort me spending $6,600 not knowing.

Check your pm

SSIA. Anyone fitting that description, or who knows of any of 'the usual suspects' send em on over. ;) Joke of the day: Had an old yellow dog with no nose once. (Fill in the blank) :p See ya behind the SBD. Look for the guy wearing the tye-dye, w a beard & ponytail. Ya can't miss him...

I don't think it will be "normal" either. I happened to get seats in 350 via TM. IMO, not the absolute worst, but darn close. I'm in though and I probably won't even be in the seat especially if behind the stage is real crappy. If GA field hit $500, I would buy them (probably tons of people would) and ditch the 350 seats. I got to think there are a bunch of people like me with seats behind the stage that are looking for the same. I bet there are many people on stubhub trying to sell their side or behind the stage seat to finance a decent one. If so, that would mean the number of tix on stubhub doesn't represent the true number of tix available. It would be lower. I really don't think any of the good seats are going to drop much below 5x face if that. Crappy seats are moving toward 5x. I could see those moving down to say ~3x. Lot of people not going to spend for travel, etc and sit behind the stage. Plus no one really knows what the stage layout will be.

I hear there are tapers tickets available! who would have thought

No way - where are those listed? (I'm not a taper and didn't request taper's tix cuz well - those should be for tapers!) If that is the case, then I am totally letting this current turtle head that is poking out fill my britches..THAT is bullshit. That is sacred ground...

If you had tickets for all three nights, wanted to give a miracle to someone on this board or a friend. Which one would you give?

I was just poking fun at know one saying they sent in for tapers tickets and got denied

I was just poking fun at know one saying they sent in for tapers tickets and got denied

Where are those listed, I mailed for taper knowing I didn't have much chance, hard to believe anyone would MO for one and sell it