Grateful Dead

LMA Archive EMERGENCY!!! The archive at archive.org has a Beta site that you can go to, so that you can try out the beta version. The beta version (probably soon to be the ONLY version) is a DISASTER for Grateful Dead users. With the current version you see a list of available recordings when you go to any particular date, and you can also see quite a few details right from there without having to drill in. With the new beta version, to see ANY details, you need to click on each one individually, see what is, then go back and drill on the next one, see what it is, etc. There is a place to submit feedback (and tell it to let you go back to the original version). Please, if you try it and see this as being as problematic as I do, send them feedback about this!! This is yet another example of a website making changes that actually REDUCES functionality! Why make it HARDER to see more information at a glance than it used to be? For those of you that use the archive, check it out and share your thoughts on the new beta site.

Sales of archive materials (CDs, downloads, etc.) peaked, and probably didn't make much profit anymore, particularly when split between surviving member entities. Concerts (Other Ones, Dead, etc.) were not always selling out larger venues. Band members undoubtedly wanted some sort of revenue stream to take them the rest of the way down the 'Golden Road', so they bit on a promoter's idea of the Fare Thee Well shows. As insurance, Trey was hired on to bring Phisheads into the mix, hopefully guaranteeing sold out events. I'm confident there was always plans to sell software of the 'Final' gigs to the aftermarket, and there was probably some discussions of a simulcast as well, but what happened may have taken everyone by surprise. So, from here on, anything isn't only possible, it's probable. Other shows, theater presentations, pay per view, Blu-ray, DVD, CD, MP3, the works. If I was a scalper, I'd get out now while the getting is still good.

some big ol' lazy largemouth just might hit it.

Source: Grateful Dead 'Considering' Additional Fare Thee Well Dates Ahead of Chicago Hey now !! Wouldn't this just be a hoot !!! http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6502151/source-grateful-dead… Although going through the ticket drama all over again gives me a headache just thinking about it...

7-2-89 Foxboro, MA Playin, Crazy Fingers and Wang Dang Doodle in the first set.... Oh to be young again... Don't forget the hey Jude and encore.... Everybody's building ships n boats.... That and 7/4/89 second best back to back for me... Best was May 77.....Cornell, Boston n da Buff.... At least we're enjoying the ride!

Phil 35mil, Bob 30mil, Mickey 30mil, Bill ?. It's hard to believe FTW is about money for the band members. Sure, they want get paid commensurate for their age, stature, and like those of other classic rock bands. However, I truly believe it's about the music and closure for men near the end of their lives. It's also for the fans. I'm sure they're some what surprised by the record breaking reaction, but I doubt they had major concerns about selling enough tickets to this event. Phil headlines major festivals every year, and sells out runs of shows at smaller venues. Bob is no slouch himself. It doesn't take much analysis of google search engines to realize people have been waiting intently for this announcement for over a year. The buzz about an event and whether Phil sent Bobby to rehab in order to do this gig was deafening. I also doubt that the band said to themselves, "We'd like to use Haynes or whomever instead of Trey, but Trey will help us increase sales." These guys don't need money. If they didn't fully believe Trey was the best choice, I don't think they would choose what they deemed as a lesser guitarist for their farewell gig and their biggest gig in the past 20 years, and it's not like Warren Haynes doesn't have a large fan base. Maybe it is what it is... a chance for the remaining band members to celebrate the music of the Grateful Dead with the fans one last time.

Appreciate the post but the remaining members worth doesn't make this easier for those left out... How many on this website are anywhere close to that net worth, maybe Justin Bieber? Bringing money into this, at this point won't win many over.... I have appreciated your optimism on these forums.... Sorry your post triggered something not good on my end... ....let the music play....

3 day passes for Chicago took a big drop overnight. I get an email every day listing all 3 day passes under $2,000 from tiqiq.com. Went from 24 2 days ago to 53 last night. There were a bunch listed at $1,200 that got snapped up real quick. Santa Clara should put a lot more downward pressure on prices when/if its announced I would think.

Agree, nothing is going to take the sting away from not being able to get into this event. However, I wasn't trying to win anyone over. I was just trying to logically assess the situation in comparison to some other view points. I also thought it was a positive way to look at things, but to each his own. I don't considerate myself a glass half full guy at all. I'm a fairly pessimistic and skeptical person who doesn't believe in karma, god, etc. I just think there is a lot more positive to this event than negative. Maybe if one accepts it as positive on face value it would ease their pain as they would be happy for the band and fan base in general. I think most people already have this outlook. It's just that the naysayers on fakebook, some forums, and in the "media" have louder voices than the majority. :) No reports of new confirmation emails in the past 24 hours. Is mail order finally over?

I don't know you, Svengali, so please do not consider this a personal affront, but a simple observation: if you are not on the band's payroll, you should be. IMO, you've spent nearly all your time on this board parroting the Party Line, irregardless of facts and other people's first hand experiences. Dennis, David, and Gary would be proud. Come to think of it, their livelihoods likely depend heavily on supporting the Party Line as well, don't they?

Your post didn't rub me the wrong way, everyone has their own opinion. I share some of the comments no big deal. Just letting the money comments roll off on this forum. It's not like you are acting like TT was, being belligerent and foul-mouthed, completely bashing the band and the fans here. And although there are many of us in pain we can't expect every post on here to be of the comforting type. Sometimes you just have to state your opinion whether people agree with it or not doesn't matter.

What up my brother from another mother?

Personally, I'm at the point now that if I get to go, Cool. I mean yeah great! But if I don't, I will survive and life will go on. Most of the pain and anxiety is gone but the excitement has also gone away with it. Still a dead fan always will be. But if something changes and I get to go to either Chicago or the "rumored" Bay Area shows, I'm sure my attitude will change and the excitement will return. Hope I at least get to see and hear these shows in some form.

Hope everything is well with you!

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I see more cheaper 3 day passes too, but the low price hasn't really changed and number of tix is holding steady. If it gets under $1000, that will be some movement. ~100 tix were recently added to the 5th and prices on the crappy seats have come down ~$30-40, but prices on good seats (even the better ones behind the stage) are holding.

Lifelong resident responding again. Apologies, but I don't have the luxury of time to scroll through all the posts. Please feel free to PM me if you have a specific question, and I will do my best to answer same. So Far, I've covered cool stuff to do in town around the shows, proffered my comments on public transportation, and mentioned 'classic' restaurants in the 'workingmans' category. I'd like to add another to that list, and cover a request for a place to eat in the South Loop area. Try Nepal House at 13th and Michigan. Delicious, cheep, and tie-dye friendly. I promised a section on 'special occasion' joints for those of you either well-heeled or on vacation, so here it is. If you are not budget conscious, Chicago offers an embarrassment of restaurant riches. Two caveats: these places are usually NOT tie-dye friendly (you may have to play dress up), and I'm leaving off the REALLY high end, which can cost you in excess of $1000.00 (in Chicago we call that a Large) for two with wine. Again, use the interweb to make your own decisions, but here are some of my fav high end spots: Joe's Seafood, Prime Steak and Stone Crab - River North On the corner out the back door of the Marriott on Michigan Ave. Les Nomades - Streeterville A French place with true civility. Dinner only. Shanghai Terrace - In the Peninsula Hotel, Gold Coast Party like it's 1939. Over the top setting and Chinese food. As before, these are all within walking distance of a majority of downtown hotels if you are in reasonable shape, or they are a short cab ride away. Please let me know if I may help anyone in any way.

random question...anyone know how to add an avatar for this site? I cant figure it out and cant find any useful help. thanks a boatload.

random question...anyone know how to add an avatar for this site? I cant figure it out and cant find any useful help. thanks a boatload.

go to your profile, click the edit tab and then at the bottom upload a pic. As for me, I have to say that my faith has been totally restored in our tribe. Two awesome souls have come together to get me a ticket at face for MD. Klowny, thanks for the recommendation to our seller (I will keep that awesome person anonymous so he isn't flooded with other requests). I am hoping that we can all meet up in your neighbourhood Klownstone so that we can share some paper and drinks and of course the dead. Hopefully all of us and that Chevette driving maniac can also get tix and come to the left coast for the party. Peace brothers and sisters and thanks to everyone for helping me get into at least one of the 50 year ann celebrations!

thank you. .. and congratulations for the MPP ticket. I'm still holding out hope that I'll get Chicago..no pink slip yet bit still no email confirming tix. it ain't over til it's over. have fun!

thank you. .. and congratulations for the MPP ticket. I'm still holding out hope that I'll get Chicago..no pink slip yet bit still no email confirming tix. it ain't over til it's over. have fun!

thank you. .. and congratulations for the MPP ticket. I'm still holding out hope that I'll get Chicago..no pink slip yet bit still no email confirming tix. it ain't over til it's over. have fun! and it worked! thanks

There'll be another one along in a minute or two. My cynicism just kicked in... Sorry.

They're still working on it. See dictionary for both 'beta' and 'test' definitions. Also, look up 'emergency' while you're there. ;) Very few of the contributors/up loaders or end users across all of the Archive categories and sections are pleased w the changes or functionality as yet. It's a work in progress... Relax, man... Lol

No affront taken, but it sure would be nice to be on the payroll. Again, I think it's just my years of experience working and attending concerts that lead me to the conclusion the roll out of the tickets for this event was absolutely ordinary besides the bands mail order outfit having so many tickets. *shrugs shoulders* It all rolls into one and nothing comes for free, There's nothing you can hold, for very long.

... but 1976 was a lotta fun, too. ;) 1975 kinda sucked....

I'm sure this won't be appreciated, but from the blog of gratefuldean... http://gratefuldean.com/its-official-more-added-and-dear-jerriweather/ A sample of this particular blog... "Dead Fans from the left coast, specializing in passive aggression, stopped complaining for the first time since January 16th. Apparently monthly shows by Phil and his friends right in their back yard aren’t enough as the group of people still pissed off about missing Hampton in ’89 have been crying since day 1. They’ve taken solace in Death Don’t Have No Mercy being busted out at Shoreline for 26 years now. People with names like Jeff and Sam moved West many years ago to continue life with names like Huggie Bear and Tranquil Stream have quickly moved from waiting on long lines for Apple Product Releases to crying about the absence of Bay area shows and getting screwed by ticket releases. They moved out west decades ago to buy a wig and get the crabs and sleep on Owsley’s floor. Those guys have been releasing the pent up and still ingrained east coast aggression they’ve been trying to deny having since 1977. Internet records displaying their inherent hostility have been spewing out since January. They will now begin acting like they were kind all along. As long as they get tickets… At a price close to what they cost 35 years ago…" and some other tidbits "While people think this will have a dramatic effect on decreasing the cost of Chicago tickets, some scalpers have commissioned professional artists in anticipation of the upcoming mail order. Peter Shapiro is proving once again he’s smarter than you are because he already sold all of the bad seats to Chicago the first day on TicketMaster. He is still holding back on the good seats that people will gladly purchase, even if they already have purchased bad seats, as upgrades a month or two from now. There’s tens of thousands of tickets that haven’t been released yet. When it all it goes down, you’ll remember you heard it from The Official Home Of Unofficial Grateful Dead News!" hahahaha "You know what Jerry would say, he’d say, “STOP FxxxING ASSUMING YOU KNOW WHAT I’D SAY! YOU DON’T KNOW SHIT!” lmfao :)

Only show I saw that year was Englishtown NJ....good show but....in 77.....I was part of the circus.... As the Chairman of the Board said...1976....it was a very good year.....

I love the 70's era. I have the 72 and 77 box set among others. What I haven't heard much of is the 80's. A friend claimed he liked the 80's the best as it had Brent and Jerry was more unhinged from the shackles of the 60's and 70's movements. I couldn't really make an argument because I don't know of that many 80's releases which in and of itself I thought was an argument that the 70's were the best.

http://dead-50.net/source-grateful-dead-considering-additional-fare-the… I think more we can laugh the better.

80 was most memorable for SF and NYC shows, 81 fall tour very nice, 82 spring really good, 83-88 ok...some excellent, many sloppy most ok in some ways....really liked summer 85.....89 en fuego baby....

You were in Joisey? I was in Joisy! I was the guy in the crude tye-dye, w the beard & ponytail. Odd we didn't run across each other. Lol. :)

76 n 77 Englishtown were off the hook....hot as balls....

"New GDTSToo update, last of the letters sent today! Limbo low ya'll!!" from a facebook post. "Quick update to let you know that the last of the returns just went out. We are still busy filing index cards and working on winner emails that have been returned to us. We will post another update in a week or so when we can answer your status questions. Thank you again for your patience. The crew of GDTS TOO"

enough of this ticket silliness and more talk of RELEASES. listening to 1/18/78 for the first time...oooohh... January 1978 is a rich new vein of Grateful Dead gold

Thanks, rgergelis, I'll check out the 80's stuff you recommended. I do have some from 89. Stolzfus, I hear ya, but the ticket release and Shapiro stuff from gratefuldean was all sarcasm. *fun* I'm still awaiting my rejection letter.

4th of July at Reggie's. Did anyone get tickets yesterday? It sold out this morning. I'm going. Oh, and thank 74 for the continued "inside" Chicago info.

Glad I could help a fellow deadhead and forum member. We all need to stick together in these tough times...

Now I have seen it all. Grateful Dead Memorabilia will be sold at auction 4.11 and 4.12 This is not new. From time to time Auction Houses sell varies items from Rock n Roll history. What is CRAZY is that the previews, the ability to inspect items before auction, will be required to have a ticket at $25 per 90 minute session. There will be SEVEN(7) sessions at $25 per. CRAZY. http://www.gratefuldeadauction.com/ I have attended several auctions over the years. Been able to inspect million dollar items and I have never been ask to buy a ticket to do so. Purchasing a catalog is different, but to buy a ticket to have the right to inspect items before an auction is CRAZY. The auction house is located near Alpine Valley. I can now see a improv scene with a few thousand deadheads. This will be one CRAZY summer. Peace out........

this works out great for the phishhead trustafarians

UNBELIEVABLE! Now, Jambase reporting added shows in California for the weekend prior to Chicago. I am livid!Shapiro, of course, will be the promoter! This whole thing smells real bad folks! So much for the east coast DeadHeads who supported these guys for decades! How bout the Boston and New York DeadHeads who used to have 6 show runs at their respective "Gardens." How bout all the east coasters going down to Capiltol Theatre tonight to celebrate Phil's 75th? If they are going to add more shows, then do a small tour or do a show in Chicago, east coast and west coast as well. Bummed AGAIN!

FROM JAMBASE: Billboard cited early rumors posted on hypemusicfestivals.com and confirmed with their own sources that the core four remaining members of the Grateful Dead -- Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Bill Kreutzmann and Mickey Hart -- are exploring adding at least one show the weekend of June 27 -- 28. Billboard's sources speculated Fare Thee Well promoters Peter Shapiro and Madison House would put on the West Coast gig(s), however, both declined comment. It is not known whether the same lineup employed in Chicago - the core four with Trey Anastasio, Jeff Chimenti and Bruce Hornsby - will play the potential California shows. Shapiro had previously stated "There’s no extra dates planned. For Chicago or anywhere else.” Tickets for the three Chicago shows have officially sold out.

Does anyone know if there will be free camping for the shows on the moon?

Sure but they are not allowing overnight parking of our space pods....

Thx! I'll take any suggestions I can for restaurants (esp BBQ) and also things to do.

I am thrilled about the possibility of more shows. I do hope that they change to a system where you have to have the credit card you used to buy tickets to get into the show though. And it would be lovely if GDTS TOO has a database to send tickets to those rejected from Chicago mail order first. Haven't the rumors alone brought Chicago tickets down? I can see how anyone that succumbed to buying tickets from scalpers may be angry at themselves but... When this all shakes out hopefully everyone will get into the shows of their choosing. The site cashortrade.org will be helpful for everyone being in the location of their choosing.

What are the chances someone will stream the shows from Chicago? I'd think it would be a perfect way for the guys to share with the millions of Deadheads around the world. Good Karma.

bbq joints:http://www.yelp.com/biz/smoque-bbq-chicago http://www.yelp.com/biz/smalls-smoke-shack-and-more-chicago http://www.yelp.com/biz/green-street-smoked-meats-chicago http://www.yelp.com/biz/rubs-backcountry-smokehouse-chicago http://www.yelp.com/biz/fat-willys-rib-shack-chicago Going to be hitting these joints during my week in Chicago. Peace out.......

Bad news all...Word is they're moving the venue to the dark side to prevent telescope owners from getting a free show.