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    joennn24
    9 years 3 months ago
    Mix
    Listened to KFOG replay and the mix had Trey so out front I couldn't hear the rest of the band. Could just be the radio replay, but I wanna hear Phil, Bobby and the rest of the band. Can't wait to see it at the movie theater on Friday (and maybe Saturday and Sunday)
  • goverlid
    9 years 3 months ago
    Write on, Bros. Stephen & Eric!
    Thanks for my morning eye-opener!!
  • Eric Abrahamson
    9 years 3 months ago
    Fare Thee Well Grateful Dead, Pt. 2
    Watch 'em knock 'em dead in Chicago. I must've gone to at least 100 shows. The first one was in 1966 in the Golden Gate Park Panhandle, or the Furthur Fesival at San Francisco State College, whichever was first. I actually felt like Phil was addressing me personally when he made his speech at the end and thanked everyone for coming out, because I tried to get tickets to as many Phil Lesh and Friends at Terrapin Crossroads shows as I could. He came up to me there and let me say, "Hi," which rock stars don't have to do. However I couldn't afford to follow Bobby around like I used to, and he always lets me know, which is flattering that he invited me. He sang a song about losing money, which is true. He sang some other songs which might have been directed at me, and I instinctively responded by singing along. Then, at the beginning of the last song, "Fare Thee Well, My Honey", "Brokedown Palace", I thought he was like, he wanted me to sing along, so I did, and then he ended it abruptly, got in line with their arms on their shoulders, did their bow, and it was over, but I'm planning to see the live stream of all 3 Chicago shows at Terrapin Crossroads. When I went to UCI in 1987, my dad gave me $100,000/year, an apartment in grad student housing, a car, and a bunch of credit cards on his account. They tracked me into the Information and Computer Science major. Then he came down and took some of the credit cards back, and my sister took all 6 of my Irvine Meadows Grateful Dead tickets. Like William Burroughs wrote, "When did they ever give anything that they didn't take back if they could, and they always could!" and he went to Harvard. I went out and bought 6 more, at the inflated price of $50, for $300, and canceled the aftershow party at my apartmnent I'd posted on the Well. Because of losing the credit cards, I got a bad grade and had to go to CSUB. Laurie Senit moved in, and life was pretty good. We lived across from the campus in an apartment complex with 4 swimming pools and 4 jacuzzis, the 2nd best in town. My parents bought me a brand-new Toyota Tercel. Then my mom said, "We're going to send the two of you to Hawaii. Pick out a hotel from this brochure." I picked the Big Island because I'd been to Maui, and the Kona Hilton because the Dead liked Hiltons. In nearby Paradise Cove the scuba boat captain claimed he was on a first-name basis with Jerry. When Jerry died the Rolling Stone article said his house was in Kona, which I didn't know, and gave the name of his dive shop. I called information and the dive shop, they said it was across the street from the Kona Hilton, and Jerry probably did used to go scuba diving at Paradise Cove. They were showing videos of him scuba diving tonight. That's why I wanted to do it, but I had to do it straight, not being a rock star. I proposed to Laurie on the beach in Kona. We stopped at my parents' house in San Francisco on our way home. My dad, James Abrahamson, had 3 restaurants, Pam Pam East on Geary and Taylor, Rosebud's English Pub next door, and Biff's Coffee Shop on 28th and Broadway in Oakland, and he sold institutional furniture, commission contract sales, for Thonet and American Chair Co., and later Serta Mattress, in the Merchandise Mart on 10th and Market. My mother, Lucille Abrahamson, was elected to the San Francisco School Board twice, two years as President, worked in Mayor Dianne Feinstein's Office of Childcare, and was appointed S.F. Human Rights Commissioner by Mayor Frank Jordan, the former Police Chief. I told them we were engaged and my Dad said, "Don't marry her, I can't afford it. We sold the restaurants to Mama's, they went bankrupt, didn't pay, we went to court, the judge fined me $160,000, and they wanted me to declare bankruptcy." My little brother said later it was his half-partner, Bill Munro, the manager's fault. He abused the help, especially the head cook, who really ran the place, the union went on strike, won so many benefits they had to go out of business and sell it. Munro had cooked the books, the judge saw it, and hence the fine. My dad said it was because I had spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts, but I don't think that was correct, although I may have spent too much money. They wanted me to go to this psychiatrist in Bakersfield, Dr. Perelli-Minetti, who was a nice man. He said the Grateful Dead was OK. He was always telling me expensive restaurants to which to take Laurie, like where he took his wife, and encouraged me to spend lots of money on her, buy expensive dresses, jewelry, etc, so I thought it was OK. He gave me Risperdal when it first came out, in 1994. We didn't really go to that many Grateful Dead concerts. My dad didn't like the Grateful Dead and Bill Graham for other reasons. When I first got back from the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock, I tried to turn him on, he thought about it for a minute and decided no, he was afraid to get busted, he was too square to get on the bus. Later he said that Bill Graham had applied to join their Jewish men's club, the Concordia-Argonaut, on Van Ness and Geary, and that he was going to vote against him. Not only was he a hippie, and made his money that way, but he was an orphan, an immigrant, and a Holocaust survivor. What it really was is that Graham was more successful than him in the role of Jewish businessman. My brother moved to Mill Valley, said he saw Graham's house and was impressed. Graham made more money than all of them, and he started as a hippie, and that filled squares like my dad with jealousy, anger, envy, and rage. My dad said, "I wish the Grateful Dead were dead," in his outrageous way. When Bill Graham's helicopter crashed on the way home from the Concord Pavilion and they had his funeral in my dad's temple, Temple Emanu-el, my dad said, "I hope it didn't hurt the helicopter!" He even hated them during the Haight-Ashbury and helped the City Fathers drive them out of town. My family was spending a lot of money at first, and I thought they were encouraging me to emulate them. When he first gave me the $100,000/year, the credit cards on his account, and sent me to UCI, my dad was acting like he could afford for me to buy anything I saw that I wanted. Then he told not to buy anything over $200, and I complied. They were all spending lots of money. He had 2 new BMW"s and a new Mercedes-Benz. He and my mom went on a temple tour of Eastern Europe and stayed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, she said it was a five-star hotel. My sister went to Yale after me, in Art, then got a Masters in Art Education at Stanford, an Ed.D. at Harvard, a J.D. at Cal, got a job in the White House as Assistant Chief-of-Staff to Vice-President H.W. Bush in the Ronald Reagan White House and then Founding Chairman of the Barbara Bush Campaign For Family Literacy (me at UCI) in the President H.W. Bush White House. There's a photo of her and Vice-President H.W. Bush having an audience with Pope John Paul in Sweden, and she is shaking hands with the Pope. That dress must have cost something, not to mention the travel. In her closet I saw hundreds of French gowns, and more shoes than Imelda Marcos. She met this guy from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., a USC Professor of International Relations, Jonathan Aronson. He went to Harvard and Stanford in Political Science, and his father was a rich St. Louis banker. They bought a mansion in Bel-Air near the Reagans', put in an Italian marble bathtub, baby grand piano, swimming pool, his self-portrait in the living room, pirates' table, Persian rug, and he drove a Jaguar S3. He said, "We're going to Paris for 2 weeks," "I'm going to Thailand to speak," and they had their son's Bar Mitzvah in Bali, so they didn't hold back on the spending. They took the whole family, including me, to the Club Med in Ixtapa, but they went bankrupt because I spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts! My brother spent $2000 of my dad's money for a Rolex watch to keep up with the other Oshos and flew back and forth to India every few weeks for years. They flew me there, to Europe twice, and to Hawaii twice. I guess my dad was having problems, and he asked me to spend less money, but he didn't really communicate that I should spend less money because he was having financial problems. I was spending too much money on Laurie. So I ignored him. So he took away some credit cards, and I kept spending at the same level. I couldn't comprehend that commission contract sales is an up-and-down business. Then two new credit cards, each with a $5000 limit, came in the mail. I should have sent them back, but I couldn't resist the temptation. Soon I realized that I couldn't let my dad find out about them, because he would take them away, too. I set out to get revenge on him for taking away my credit cards by charging even *more* money. The first thing I did was take Laurie to the most expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, Spago's, $140 for salmon for two. Then the 2nd most expensive, Palms in West Hollywood. Then dresses, jewelry, and when we went to Hawaii we did the same thing with the recreation. Maybe *that's* what drove my dad into near-bankruptcy, not the Grateful Dead concerts. We really didn't go to that many. I just spent a lot of money on her. She just liked to go to movies, comedy clubs, country-western dance halls, miniature golf, roller skating, she was always thinking of something. They cut my allowance from $100,000/year to $40,000/year, my sister and brother-in-law, Joan and Jonathan, became "trustees of your trust fund", keep the Blue Cross PPO. They took away all 12 of my credit cards and defaulted on them, leaving me in debt to the credit card companies for $15,000, with bad credit to this day, since 1993. They raised it up to $60,000 and I moved to New Mexico, near the Castagnas who used to live at the Hog Farm. Alberto asked me to call my mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law and ask each of them for $10,000 for a liver transplant for his Hepatitis C because his job as Director of Taos County Ambulances, working his way up from paramedic and EMT, didn't have good insurance. They said no. Maybe that's what set 'em off. They asked me to go to a psychiatrist, who dismissed me. Then Laurie wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and move in to her apartment. They wanted me to find another psychiatrist. I found psychedelic therapist Dr. Robert Newport online at the Island Group in Santa Cruz, referred by Bruce Eisner, but my sister fought with him and he lost his license for prescribing medications, including Risperdal, without seeing the patients. I called him and he said, "Did your sister let up on you yet? I'm not a psychiatrist any more, I'm a painter." So they took me to Dr. Lisa Fine, who also gave me Risperdal, which gave me diabetes. Laurie got it too, from Seroquel. They found the diabetes when a cardiolgist wanted to do an emergency heart surgery,an angiogram and an angioplasty. My brother drove my sister-in-law's Ford Escort to L.A. from Sedona. They said they were going to give it to me. He showed it to me and said, "This is your car." They said they were going to give it to me after the surgeries, but they changed their mind and never did. My car had totally broken down at a job interview in Irvine just a few days before my appointment with the cardiologist, who decided I was going to have emergency heart surgery. When I recovered I stopped by at some friends from the Cubensis shows and they talked me into starting going to shows again, to the Phil Lesh and Friends show and the Ratdog show at the Wiltern, and the Ratdog show at the House of Blues. I'd told Richie on the phone I'd stopped going to shows when Jerry died and he'd said, "I did too." They had a picture of them with the 4 original members in an airport on the way to a concert called The Dead. After that, this psychologist Eric Asa-Dorian from the Life Adjustment Team, probably a drug rehab, they said her mother called, shows up in our living room, posing as a Deadhead, except with more, better tickets than me. Then they got me to go to LAT and I never knew it was a drug rehab, it was disguised as marriage counseling or something. In the end they took the $60,000/year except for meds, medical bills, Anthem Blue Cross PPO, SSI, and put me in Brentwood Manor board-and-care home for two years, I think illegally, before I had learned how to treat the diabetes, so it had developed another complication besides the heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetic neuropathy, or diabetic nerve pain, or "burning feet". When they moved me out of Laurie's apartment 12 years ago with the Comcast that was the last time they let me have cable, except for a brief period. No police, no arrest, no charges, no hearing, no trial, no sentence, no jail, no prison, no due process. No evidence or proof that *I* ever did anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned, frames and smears I've never heard, let alone allowed to answer. I said I'd sue all of them for $2 billion for attempted murder, elder financial abuse, false imprisonment, psychiatric torture, medical malpractice, emotional anguish, pain and suffering, and my attorney, Bruce Margolin, who'd been Timothy Leary's attorney (I went to a fundraiser they had at Timothy Leary's house in Beverly Hills when he was running for State Senator), said, "Where'd you get the $2 billion?" so $200 million is more in the range, I think. I had to get a job selling Sprint phones B2B to small businesses in the South, work my way out of there and get some financial aid from Cal State East Bay. I'd been a junior Computer Science major at Cal State Northridge when I was living with Laurie before the surgeries. And Tina Kimmel, a Cal Ph.D. in Social Work I met at the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock got my sister to give me a $68,000 annuity that my dad left me, so that was pretty good, so I got to go to Monterey and Camp Winnarainbow, and they're paying for a lot of things now. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. I'm still a senior Computer Science major and pre-law. Afterwards Alberto died, I called Richie from the board-and-care, he called my sister, I called him back, and he had terminal liver cancer. Alberto flew out and carved his tombstone, and he picked out wood for Tinker to make his coffin, but my sister wouldn't give me $100 to visit him at Camp Winnarainbow before he died. Steve had died of hep C. Then Hunter Thompson committed suicide. When I was going to the LAT psychiatrist to whom they forced me to go, I emailed Cap'n Skypilot to post something I could show him on his office computer, and he wrote a story about a man whose parents he said were responsible for the death of Ken Kesey and the assassination of JFK. When I got up here Vince Welnick committed suicide. I ran into Lou Todd, then he got sick and died, and then Tinker, who I once saw drive the Furthur bus. Charlene said her landlady wouldn't rent her house anymore, she moved in with her daughter; her other daughter got accused of murder, and she didn't do it. Laurie's elementary schoolteacher friend's apartment caught on fire and they blamed her. My Deadhead lawyer friend said his SUV caught on fire. I can't figure out the reason for all this. I would be interested if anybody, especially with legal knowhow, had any helpful advice. I'm thinking of appealing to my Yale classmates, to see if any of them are big-time lawyers yet, and I don't think any Democratic politicians have seen it, since most of them don't have email addresses. They were telling people I was dying, but the doctors said my numbers were good, so you can't die from controlled diabetes, maybe it was just wish-fulfillment. And Jerry famously died of a diabetic heart attack in a drug rehab, maybe someone got ideas. While I was in Brentwood the lawyer sent me a copy of the trust instrument where my parents had initialed that when my mom dies, the inheritance, which it originally says was divided into thirds between me, my brother, and sister, they rubbed me out and divided it in half between my brother and sister. She'll get my mom's house worth about $2 million, and she has a $4.3 million house in Bel-Air, and a house in Telluride, and my dad bought my brother a house in Sedona. I was living in Laurie's apartment. My brother will get my dad's commercial property in Oakland, a tire and party store. And there's some money they'll divide in half. Eric Abrahamson Yale University Class of '71 Pierson College
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Nothing wrong with sticking to your guns. If this doesn't work out, something will. It's still 3 1/2 months till they trot on stage and open with Caution Jam>Jack Straw.
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"I can afford to pay 1000-1200 for a floor ticket, but I absolutely refuse to do so. I saw the dead in 89-90-91 and got a full dose of what the real deal is. There is no reason to pay these prices other than to support the scalpers and empty our wallets and bank accounts. Keep the prices real folks!!!!" don't pay the crazy prices. advocate advocate advocate for a national simulcast at outdoor showings from sea to shining sea.
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My wife is almost at the point of buying me a scalped ticket just to get me to STFU about this whole thing. I got all wound up again today, going in I had no idea what he had or what his story was either. My best case was to tell him that the money would not ease his pain of not going. Had to do the whole conversation via text. I tried to call him but he said he could take not take a call at that time. Maybe his other bidders were there. No decision tonight. Hopefully he makes the right decision, either goes or sells me his ticket. Back on the Klimbo bus for now...
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Hey now ASL - check your PM please.
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Yesterday I wrote a post about a three-pack of club seats I grossly under-bid on eBay. I bid $275 per ticket on an asking price of $2,250 per ticket. These are the nice club seats of Bears season ticket holders with PSL's. Not to my surprise, I received their pinkie saying no go. Actually, here's what they said - warning, you better be sitting down when you read this.... "I don't have the money to pay for my season tickets unless I sell these tickets. I'm at risk of losing my seats that we're relying on for retirement. Please have the compassion to pay my asking price and help secure our retirement. Thank YOU." ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME !!!!!!!!!
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This is worth a read (you'll have to scroll down on his site to find it); it's all of witty, sharp-tongued and true. The particular article on scalping is relevant to the ongoing comments posted here. His articles run together on his site so scroll down and look for the one that starts: In two days that sent shockwaves through the spine of what’s now become the biggest event of the year,... www.gratefuldean.com It's too long to cut and paste here.
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So, I understandably, see a lot of comments about the Bears season ticket holders. Please don't blame the Bears, or the majority of their fans, of which I am one. I really don't care for sports all that much, but my dad used to take me to games when the Bears were playing at Wrigley Field back in the day when Gale Sayers was running back.The Bears games were the one day I could spend hanging out with my dad and I suppose that is why I still love them, even though, right now, they suck. Blame the fans who get a shot at every concert or event at Soldier Field. It is their right to purchase tickets. It is your right (almost duty I would say) to NOT buy tickets at scalper prices. These people will eventually have to eat or sell their tickets at or below face. We are talking about a concert that is OVER three months away for god sake. What's the rush? Deadheads will eventually get tickets, not dickheads. Be patient. 99% of tickets haven't even been issued/printed yet. The lot will be fun, the weather should be perfect, Chicago is an awesome city in the summer, the music should be great, the vibes will be positive, and scalpers will HAVE to sell their tickets at cost or below if we ALL just be patient. As a life long Dead fan all I can say is if you really want to go, you will get tickets. I remember driving all the way out to Oxford Plains, Maine in the summer of '88 without tickets to either show.....those were two of the best Dead shows I ever saw, maybe because the band talked a lot, played great songs, and I had some delicious lobster in the lot, or maybe because I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in years after being in the lot for five minutes, and he handed me his extras, but never the less, just ignore the scalpers, you have plenty of time.
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One hell of a post, Frontrow Joe - kudos brother !!
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I love the optimism posted here but I can't share it in good conscience. I live in the area and know a lot (A LOT) of people who are completely shut out like many on this board; mail order, CID, TM. Many of them know Bears season ticket holders and still can't get tickets. Many of the PSL holders are, believe it or not, fans to one degree or another and planning to go. Or they have family members, close friends, etc. who want to go. Far fewer bought them purely for the purpose of scalping at outrageous markups. It just seems to be clear that there's a crazy unfulfilled demand for tickets that will keep prices high (supply and demand is a time-proven dynamic). The demand is coming from a really broad demographic (new to long-time fans) and a broad geography (everywhere) and 3 shows of capacity for a show now billed as a last chance to celebrate the music that is at the core of so many of us has cemented the significance of the event. So while prices may drift down a bit as we get closer to July, the notion that tickets will sell at face-value or below is unrealistic and ignores the realities of supply and demand. IMHO. Peace.
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For me, coming from CA, there is a rush to get a ticket. I need to book a plane and feel very nervous doing so without a ticket. So the sooner the better for me to get a ticket so I move forward with planning my trip. Stuck in my own sort of limbo until then. Not paying scalper prices, but trying like hell to secure an entrance into the venue. If I wait until June to book a flight the price may be way higher or the times I want may be gone. So the sense of urgency is very real...
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Just because you want tickets (and we all do), doesn't mean you will get them. We are in completely uncharted territory this time around. It has never been like this for dead show, so to say we will all get tickets is just an untrue statement. I agree patience is a virtue, but too much patience will get you a ticket to your own couch for reruns of Seinfeld July 4 weekend.
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Bears fan using dead tickets to fund their retirement or pay for future PSL rights... ...is TOTAL BS!!!!!!
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Check your PM dude - thanks.
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Thanks for the grateful dean link. The wait and see manifesto is ballsy: and I agree somewhat on the premise that one has to stick to their guns, but each person has to decide what bed to sleep in. On the economics of supply and demand: the way I look at it: if the tour bus kept chugging the out of pocket expenses would be in the 1000s to keep on seeing shows (unless I was an enterprising burrito bastard) so if 20 years later I scrape a couple 1000 I can count myself on the lucky side of the equation. I guess that's my rationale.and I will have to live with it.
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I'm not sure if you mean me but, I am a taper, just got back from Port Chester Monday night show, I have recording in DSD format, only 3 other tapers there, good set list, but vocals are buried a little,but still an ok tape. I went for taper tix for FTW but got my pinkie after being in limbo till 3-9, so if anyone has taper tix and can't attend I will make the best recording I can make, for you!
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To the fellow who posted about a hotel in Wrigleyville/Lincoln Park areas: that should work fine and Wrigleyville is a nice little neighborhood. Lots of bars, little restaurants, etc.... And it is next to the EL, so getting downtown will be a snap. I hate to make this recommendation because it is a place dear to my heart and I like to keep it a bit under the radar, but if you like Middle Eastern food Sayat Nova just off the Magnificent Mile on Ohio is great food at a nice price (especially lunch). They also have a hookah bar for late nights-- never done it, but it exists. The Bears PSL thing-- that guy can think he is going to fund his retirement with this, but he isn't getting it. Anyone can ask what they want for tickets, but whether they get it is another story. As a Packers fan, I am in the unique situation of having scored tickets via the Bears PSL presale, so I can't badmouth Bears fans for a little while. I got lucky by having a friend who works for a company that had the Club Level PSL. I am in all three nights, but have another friend who wants to go and he will get my Friday ticket if we have no lot success. I like Frontrow Joe's optimism, but I think DevilsFriend is right-- this is a unique supply/demand set of shows. Scoring a ticket to these shows is not like scoring tickets in the lot in the late 80s and early 90s. The paucity of shows means that the demand and price is going to remain elevated until showtime. I believe today's asking prices will not be achieved, but they will continue to sell above face.
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Still awaiting return info from a few peeps: DevilsFriend, sam3b, Totem, hawk62 & DeadGeek - please check your PM's. For those in the dark (pun intended) I'm compiling a simple list of brothers & sisters here who've shown an interest in a Grant Park get-together of sorts (date/time is TBD) while in Chicago. If interested, drop me a PM with the following info please: First name Screen name on dead.net City/State email addy Cell # I'll create a distribution email list and send out the spreadsheet (and subsequent iterations I'm sure) once the first version is compiled and finished. I may even add a column or two like "has tix," "needs tix," "hotel," who knows... Thanks !
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Look, Klang, and the rest of you, I totally understand how you feel, especially with the hype this show is getting. Can't wait a month or two? Go ahead, buy those tickets for two, three, five, twenty times their face value, but that is only going to drive the rest of the scalpers to increase their prices. I understand you are coming from far away. I also understand looking for lot tickets is a challenge most of us don't want to face, but I say, think positive. Klang, you already said you have a room out by the airport, so go ahead, book a flight. If you've never been to Chicago, trust me, you'll have a great time even if you are just hanging out in the lot, of which there are many. Three shows, with the amount of tickets on Scalper sites, at the prices they are at, and not selling.....you will get tickets. I honestly think at this stage of the game, buying over priced tickets shouldn't be an option.
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Keeping the faith when you already have tickets. Oh man I love you guys but stop with "itll be okay, keep a positive attitude" when you're a person who has tickets and is already in the running with extras or multiple nights. Keep the faith, I am, but I too am getting a little tired and stressed of all the people on here who have gotten their butts in a seat telling all those that got shut out to remain positive and telling me I'll get in. Easy for you to say!! :) Now does anyone have an extra for cash or trade so I can be one of those helping others keep the faith! Cheers! :0) And unfortunately I will buy a ticket from a scalper if I have to hit the panic button. If no one ends up hooking me up with an extra I'll have no other choice. Where any other Dead show my principles would win out, sadly this one goes beyond principles and I will have to choke on ticket from a scalper! And I've got a friend with cheap hotel reservations and i have an apartment rented, and friends who live right next to the shows so if that's some kind of incentive let me know!!
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Thanks, estimated-eyes. It turns out the Lincoln Park hotel was a website glitch. It was listed as $147/night, which would have been a steal for that location. The dilemma I'm having is that downtown hotels would allow for no car travel and maximum fun time within the show orbit, but they are minimum $400+/night with taxes at this point. If I invest $1,200+ in hotel I'm afraid I will become weak and buy scalped tickets because I'm so invested. Damn first world problems, lol. If anyone else has recommendations, let me know. Right now, I'm thinking about Skokie/Evanston, but not too excited about car travel or long train rides. Klang, are you hooked up at O'Hare area when you get a ticket? (See what I did there?) Maybe I should look at the airport. Are you planning on driving or using the L? Sorry, I know this is a tedious topic but any thoughts are appreciated. I'm excited cuz I'm on the meetup list so I gotta find a place to crash. Onward, ho.
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Chicago's train system is pretty solid. One can get out to some far locales and still get a Metra train ride of an hour or less. Even from O'Hare the train ride is about an hour. A lot of O'Hare area hotels offer shuttle service to/from O'Hare, too. You would have to check on each hotel's details on that, though, to see when they run. Though one could certainly get a cab once dropped off at O'Hare after the show. Here is some information on trains from O'Hare: http://www.transitchicago.com/airports/
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OK, I'll expand my horizons and look on the perimeter as well. Appreciate it.
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The scalp tix are selling very slowly, but they are selling. The way I see it is that tickets will not drop more than 50% from where they are now. So that's still $500 for GA Field. If they dropped to $500 overnight right now, every ticket would sell. I think the hope is that people will lose interest and that more tickets will flood the market in June. I'm certain more tickets will hit the market in June. But it won't be a flood. So many people got shut out of mail order that the mail order extras will be going to friends. TM scalper tix are already for sale. We will see more once the tix are in hand from people who have extras, but most TM scalp tix are already listed. A scalper isn't going to wait to list their tickets given that the best prices are right after the GA sale. So I don't think there is going to be a supply bump that drives prices anywhere near face. As for losing interest, I'm not seeing it. There is a huge body of people waiting for things to settle down. It's the 4th of July. It's the last shows. Too many people, who hung their hat up 20 years ago, want closure, to be with friends, or want that trip down memory lane.
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hate to admit it, but I really agree with you. I certainly do not believe interest will wane...au contraire...I believe it will settle in for many of the peripheral and/or more casual fans, that this is the LAST CHANCE, which would work to prop up these ticket prices.
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There are Blue Line stops at O'Hare and Rosemont that will drop you off at State & Lake, which is right in the middle of stuff. There are several hotels by the airport proper and out in Rosemont. I would not recommend accommodations out by Midway.
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Not sure about the airplane ticket yet, but I am thinking about it. @Bears fans: for the record I don't hate all Bears fans, just pointing fingers at the ones who are trying to take advantage and screw us. Right or wrong, I know a lot of us are bitter than PSL owners got tickets and we didn't, so we are already jealous of them. Then they pull this shit. They are not making friends with us.
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Shouldn't need take a cab from ohare to hotel as long as the EL is still running after the show. If not, my trip back to hotel could get expensive.
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I suspect that the human wave will carry folks from Soldier Field all the way out to the Blue Line. You won't be alone. Just make sure that you buy and update your fare cards well in advance. It's a new system since I last took the EL into the city.
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FTW = ... How come there are all these festivals (in addition to Chicago)but NOTHING on the west coast. What did we do to deserve being passed over? Lockn, Dear Jerry and this Peach festival, but nothing out west. If any of the band members or their people are listening, why can't we have a festival out here???? Remember, you guys are from here!!!! Come on , man!
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Thanks, Kristine. I've scratched Midway off the list even though I'm flying in there. Looking at O'Hare, but it might be a tight shuffle if I get a ticket to Friday's show. Midway>O'Hare>Soldier>Fun
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That might help, if I make it there...
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So, how do you think the TM 3-day passes are going to be issued? There is disagreement in our household. Will they be three separate tickets or a single 3-day pass that will have to be used all three nights? Spouse says say's 3 separate tickets, I say single pass. Why would they sell us something that can be so easily divided and resold? I think they are going to make it tough to share. What say you?
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I have 3 hotels booked with 2 rooms each, each with 2 double beds. I booked them based on either car or plane travel. Most likely the 3rd one just to be closer even though the most expensive. Nice drive along the water to and from the city. Maybe take #2 if fly to O'Hare, and #3 if drive from Toronto. If we can get tickets it looks like will only be using 1 room of the 6. I don't know how to go about transferring these to anyone but would like to help out some heads here if you need a room. The first is dirt cheap by O'Hare Airport. Second is south of Chicago. PM if interested and we can exchange emails. Distance and time is to Soldier Field. 1 Red Roof RRI02 – Airport – 27 miles – 38 minutes $47 22 East Algonquin Road, Arlington Heights, IL, United States 2 Red Roof RRI078 – South – 23.7 miles – 26 minutes $77 2450 East 173rd Street | Lansing | IL | 60438 3 Day8 Hotel – North – 11.2 miles – 21 minutes - $184 7300 North Sheridan Road, Chicago, IL 60626, U.S.
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Hey now, KristineD - I'd siding with your spouse. Wrist bands and a "three day pass" just doesn't seem logical to me. TM allows you to transfer tickets also (I believe that's true). I'm thinking three tickets, one for each show date.
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"Tickets on the secondary market are prone to the same volatility that plagues options contracts. For tickets that aren't seeing large demand, the upside is limited. According to Will Flaherty, SeatGeek's director of growth and communications, prices fall about 40 percent on average leading up to the date of an event. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, like the Super Bowl, or the popular Coachella concert." Here's the full article: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102504158 So the AVERAGE event has an after-market price drop of 40% leading up to the date of the event. FTW is not your average event...And that's not 40% off of face value; it's 40% off of the after-market peak pricing. I'm sharing this because before I got lucky I was planning to be unlucky. I had already decided to forego my principles for the sake of getting a seat to an event I could not stomach missing. Those of you wrestling with that dilemma should know the facts.
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I think the purpose of the 3 day pass (assuming you got the MO) would be to get you three separate tickets since you get the commemorative art on them...makes sense to me; and honestly, there will be a lot of really p-o'd people who bought tickets from someone who got MO and is funding their trip with either their extras or a single day, only to find that they have to sell the whole kit-n-caboodle in one shot - so in the case of EBay, $7.5k or nuttin'
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We were shut out of mail-order (first time, ever I think). We did score Ticketmaster 3-day no-view nosebleeds (I mean waaaay up there!), but we're grateful to be inside.
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I think they will be issuing separate tickets for each night, too. I might be issuing my Friday night ticket to a good friend in need as well, Kristine-- but we are going to try the lot first.
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I just tried to bid on a set of 2, GA 3 day passes on Ebay and either someone has set their bid fairly high and it automatically outbids me. I wonder if this is an actual buyer who set a high price - say $1000 and is legitimately outbidding me or if it is something else. Also, less of a conspiracy theory than the last comment, but wouldn't this open the whole process to driving up prices artificially if someone were to open say a false account and keep probing to find out what someone's maximum was? Understand that they may outbid that person, but if the increase is only $10 at a time, then the leader would obviously try to beat that...I would totally buy the tix for the price they are at - but that won't last - Klanger, wanna team up and go for these ;) Would our $2000 combined be too much for 3 floor tix each? (I am getting close to caving to the 'man') http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fare-Thee-Well-Grateful-Dead-2-3-Day-Passes-VIP…?
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Said friend would be over the moon for a miracle. It would be lovely to be able to surprise him.
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You can just bid a high number as a max and ebay will bid a small amount over the current bid and automatically rebid for you up to that maximum.
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I haven't used this Ebay thing for a long time - just no real need since the last stuff I bought were text books that I just bought outright...they were at least fairly priced. Again though, is this not prone to more nefarious usage of the system to force up the current high bid's payment? I mean I just forced some poor sap up another $100 without flinching Feeling bad about considering scalpers, but to offer them something that is (to me at least) reasonable - I would totally go $1000 for floor for all 3 nights, that is a 3x markup so ok, they got lucky, I didn't but they are sharing (sort of)...so not as evil as their minimum bid of $7,500
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I would stay away from any VIP/CID tickets that you did not personally purchase from CID when they went on sale. CID does not have to honor any requests for transfer of tickets from one person to another. From what I heard, if and when they do allow a transfer,which is at their discretion, they require the transferee to have a copy of the original purchasers drivers license, both sides of the credit card that was originally used to purchase the tickets, and a hand written letter from the original purchaser stating why they are making the transfer. I believe CID dislikes scalpers, eBay sellers, StubHub game players, hoodlums, ne'er-do-wells and people who pull cat's tails. A big buyer beware...ok rant and lesson over. g
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Please check your PM...thanks
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I thought GA floor was MO? Or are those only the pit...yeah they were only the pit weren't they? Damn...never mind then! Thanks for the heads up! Yeah just checking back again - totally were CID (especially with hotel included - so I was actually bidding BELOW face...damn, I am a jerk)
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...that's what makes me hesitate to tell my friend that we'll give him Friday. If there is a chance that even the ticketmaster-noview-nosebleed-3-days are a single pass, I can't take the chance of letting the creds leave my grubby little paws.
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That's a very gracious post. I may be interested so I will PM you later after I've had a chance to check out those locations. OK, back to work....