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    joennn24
    9 years 4 months ago
    Mix
    Listened to KFOG replay and the mix had Trey so out front I couldn't hear the rest of the band. Could just be the radio replay, but I wanna hear Phil, Bobby and the rest of the band. Can't wait to see it at the movie theater on Friday (and maybe Saturday and Sunday)
  • goverlid
    9 years 4 months ago
    Write on, Bros. Stephen & Eric!
    Thanks for my morning eye-opener!!
  • Eric Abrahamson
    9 years 4 months ago
    Fare Thee Well Grateful Dead, Pt. 2
    Watch 'em knock 'em dead in Chicago. I must've gone to at least 100 shows. The first one was in 1966 in the Golden Gate Park Panhandle, or the Furthur Fesival at San Francisco State College, whichever was first. I actually felt like Phil was addressing me personally when he made his speech at the end and thanked everyone for coming out, because I tried to get tickets to as many Phil Lesh and Friends at Terrapin Crossroads shows as I could. He came up to me there and let me say, "Hi," which rock stars don't have to do. However I couldn't afford to follow Bobby around like I used to, and he always lets me know, which is flattering that he invited me. He sang a song about losing money, which is true. He sang some other songs which might have been directed at me, and I instinctively responded by singing along. Then, at the beginning of the last song, "Fare Thee Well, My Honey", "Brokedown Palace", I thought he was like, he wanted me to sing along, so I did, and then he ended it abruptly, got in line with their arms on their shoulders, did their bow, and it was over, but I'm planning to see the live stream of all 3 Chicago shows at Terrapin Crossroads. When I went to UCI in 1987, my dad gave me $100,000/year, an apartment in grad student housing, a car, and a bunch of credit cards on his account. They tracked me into the Information and Computer Science major. Then he came down and took some of the credit cards back, and my sister took all 6 of my Irvine Meadows Grateful Dead tickets. Like William Burroughs wrote, "When did they ever give anything that they didn't take back if they could, and they always could!" and he went to Harvard. I went out and bought 6 more, at the inflated price of $50, for $300, and canceled the aftershow party at my apartmnent I'd posted on the Well. Because of losing the credit cards, I got a bad grade and had to go to CSUB. Laurie Senit moved in, and life was pretty good. We lived across from the campus in an apartment complex with 4 swimming pools and 4 jacuzzis, the 2nd best in town. My parents bought me a brand-new Toyota Tercel. Then my mom said, "We're going to send the two of you to Hawaii. Pick out a hotel from this brochure." I picked the Big Island because I'd been to Maui, and the Kona Hilton because the Dead liked Hiltons. In nearby Paradise Cove the scuba boat captain claimed he was on a first-name basis with Jerry. When Jerry died the Rolling Stone article said his house was in Kona, which I didn't know, and gave the name of his dive shop. I called information and the dive shop, they said it was across the street from the Kona Hilton, and Jerry probably did used to go scuba diving at Paradise Cove. They were showing videos of him scuba diving tonight. That's why I wanted to do it, but I had to do it straight, not being a rock star. I proposed to Laurie on the beach in Kona. We stopped at my parents' house in San Francisco on our way home. My dad, James Abrahamson, had 3 restaurants, Pam Pam East on Geary and Taylor, Rosebud's English Pub next door, and Biff's Coffee Shop on 28th and Broadway in Oakland, and he sold institutional furniture, commission contract sales, for Thonet and American Chair Co., and later Serta Mattress, in the Merchandise Mart on 10th and Market. My mother, Lucille Abrahamson, was elected to the San Francisco School Board twice, two years as President, worked in Mayor Dianne Feinstein's Office of Childcare, and was appointed S.F. Human Rights Commissioner by Mayor Frank Jordan, the former Police Chief. I told them we were engaged and my Dad said, "Don't marry her, I can't afford it. We sold the restaurants to Mama's, they went bankrupt, didn't pay, we went to court, the judge fined me $160,000, and they wanted me to declare bankruptcy." My little brother said later it was his half-partner, Bill Munro, the manager's fault. He abused the help, especially the head cook, who really ran the place, the union went on strike, won so many benefits they had to go out of business and sell it. Munro had cooked the books, the judge saw it, and hence the fine. My dad said it was because I had spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts, but I don't think that was correct, although I may have spent too much money. They wanted me to go to this psychiatrist in Bakersfield, Dr. Perelli-Minetti, who was a nice man. He said the Grateful Dead was OK. He was always telling me expensive restaurants to which to take Laurie, like where he took his wife, and encouraged me to spend lots of money on her, buy expensive dresses, jewelry, etc, so I thought it was OK. He gave me Risperdal when it first came out, in 1994. We didn't really go to that many Grateful Dead concerts. My dad didn't like the Grateful Dead and Bill Graham for other reasons. When I first got back from the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock, I tried to turn him on, he thought about it for a minute and decided no, he was afraid to get busted, he was too square to get on the bus. Later he said that Bill Graham had applied to join their Jewish men's club, the Concordia-Argonaut, on Van Ness and Geary, and that he was going to vote against him. Not only was he a hippie, and made his money that way, but he was an orphan, an immigrant, and a Holocaust survivor. What it really was is that Graham was more successful than him in the role of Jewish businessman. My brother moved to Mill Valley, said he saw Graham's house and was impressed. Graham made more money than all of them, and he started as a hippie, and that filled squares like my dad with jealousy, anger, envy, and rage. My dad said, "I wish the Grateful Dead were dead," in his outrageous way. When Bill Graham's helicopter crashed on the way home from the Concord Pavilion and they had his funeral in my dad's temple, Temple Emanu-el, my dad said, "I hope it didn't hurt the helicopter!" He even hated them during the Haight-Ashbury and helped the City Fathers drive them out of town. My family was spending a lot of money at first, and I thought they were encouraging me to emulate them. When he first gave me the $100,000/year, the credit cards on his account, and sent me to UCI, my dad was acting like he could afford for me to buy anything I saw that I wanted. Then he told not to buy anything over $200, and I complied. They were all spending lots of money. He had 2 new BMW"s and a new Mercedes-Benz. He and my mom went on a temple tour of Eastern Europe and stayed in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, she said it was a five-star hotel. My sister went to Yale after me, in Art, then got a Masters in Art Education at Stanford, an Ed.D. at Harvard, a J.D. at Cal, got a job in the White House as Assistant Chief-of-Staff to Vice-President H.W. Bush in the Ronald Reagan White House and then Founding Chairman of the Barbara Bush Campaign For Family Literacy (me at UCI) in the President H.W. Bush White House. There's a photo of her and Vice-President H.W. Bush having an audience with Pope John Paul in Sweden, and she is shaking hands with the Pope. That dress must have cost something, not to mention the travel. In her closet I saw hundreds of French gowns, and more shoes than Imelda Marcos. She met this guy from the Council of Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C., a USC Professor of International Relations, Jonathan Aronson. He went to Harvard and Stanford in Political Science, and his father was a rich St. Louis banker. They bought a mansion in Bel-Air near the Reagans', put in an Italian marble bathtub, baby grand piano, swimming pool, his self-portrait in the living room, pirates' table, Persian rug, and he drove a Jaguar S3. He said, "We're going to Paris for 2 weeks," "I'm going to Thailand to speak," and they had their son's Bar Mitzvah in Bali, so they didn't hold back on the spending. They took the whole family, including me, to the Club Med in Ixtapa, but they went bankrupt because I spent too much money on Grateful Dead concerts! My brother spent $2000 of my dad's money for a Rolex watch to keep up with the other Oshos and flew back and forth to India every few weeks for years. They flew me there, to Europe twice, and to Hawaii twice. I guess my dad was having problems, and he asked me to spend less money, but he didn't really communicate that I should spend less money because he was having financial problems. I was spending too much money on Laurie. So I ignored him. So he took away some credit cards, and I kept spending at the same level. I couldn't comprehend that commission contract sales is an up-and-down business. Then two new credit cards, each with a $5000 limit, came in the mail. I should have sent them back, but I couldn't resist the temptation. Soon I realized that I couldn't let my dad find out about them, because he would take them away, too. I set out to get revenge on him for taking away my credit cards by charging even *more* money. The first thing I did was take Laurie to the most expensive restaurant in Los Angeles, Spago's, $140 for salmon for two. Then the 2nd most expensive, Palms in West Hollywood. Then dresses, jewelry, and when we went to Hawaii we did the same thing with the recreation. Maybe *that's* what drove my dad into near-bankruptcy, not the Grateful Dead concerts. We really didn't go to that many. I just spent a lot of money on her. She just liked to go to movies, comedy clubs, country-western dance halls, miniature golf, roller skating, she was always thinking of something. They cut my allowance from $100,000/year to $40,000/year, my sister and brother-in-law, Joan and Jonathan, became "trustees of your trust fund", keep the Blue Cross PPO. They took away all 12 of my credit cards and defaulted on them, leaving me in debt to the credit card companies for $15,000, with bad credit to this day, since 1993. They raised it up to $60,000 and I moved to New Mexico, near the Castagnas who used to live at the Hog Farm. Alberto asked me to call my mother, father, sister, and brother-in-law and ask each of them for $10,000 for a liver transplant for his Hepatitis C because his job as Director of Taos County Ambulances, working his way up from paramedic and EMT, didn't have good insurance. They said no. Maybe that's what set 'em off. They asked me to go to a psychiatrist, who dismissed me. Then Laurie wanted me to come back to Los Angeles and move in to her apartment. They wanted me to find another psychiatrist. I found psychedelic therapist Dr. Robert Newport online at the Island Group in Santa Cruz, referred by Bruce Eisner, but my sister fought with him and he lost his license for prescribing medications, including Risperdal, without seeing the patients. I called him and he said, "Did your sister let up on you yet? I'm not a psychiatrist any more, I'm a painter." So they took me to Dr. Lisa Fine, who also gave me Risperdal, which gave me diabetes. Laurie got it too, from Seroquel. They found the diabetes when a cardiolgist wanted to do an emergency heart surgery,an angiogram and an angioplasty. My brother drove my sister-in-law's Ford Escort to L.A. from Sedona. They said they were going to give it to me. He showed it to me and said, "This is your car." They said they were going to give it to me after the surgeries, but they changed their mind and never did. My car had totally broken down at a job interview in Irvine just a few days before my appointment with the cardiologist, who decided I was going to have emergency heart surgery. When I recovered I stopped by at some friends from the Cubensis shows and they talked me into starting going to shows again, to the Phil Lesh and Friends show and the Ratdog show at the Wiltern, and the Ratdog show at the House of Blues. I'd told Richie on the phone I'd stopped going to shows when Jerry died and he'd said, "I did too." They had a picture of them with the 4 original members in an airport on the way to a concert called The Dead. After that, this psychologist Eric Asa-Dorian from the Life Adjustment Team, probably a drug rehab, they said her mother called, shows up in our living room, posing as a Deadhead, except with more, better tickets than me. Then they got me to go to LAT and I never knew it was a drug rehab, it was disguised as marriage counseling or something. In the end they took the $60,000/year except for meds, medical bills, Anthem Blue Cross PPO, SSI, and put me in Brentwood Manor board-and-care home for two years, I think illegally, before I had learned how to treat the diabetes, so it had developed another complication besides the heart disease, metabolic syndrome, diabetic neuropathy, or diabetic nerve pain, or "burning feet". When they moved me out of Laurie's apartment 12 years ago with the Comcast that was the last time they let me have cable, except for a brief period. No police, no arrest, no charges, no hearing, no trial, no sentence, no jail, no prison, no due process. No evidence or proof that *I* ever did anything wrong, as far as I'm concerned, frames and smears I've never heard, let alone allowed to answer. I said I'd sue all of them for $2 billion for attempted murder, elder financial abuse, false imprisonment, psychiatric torture, medical malpractice, emotional anguish, pain and suffering, and my attorney, Bruce Margolin, who'd been Timothy Leary's attorney (I went to a fundraiser they had at Timothy Leary's house in Beverly Hills when he was running for State Senator), said, "Where'd you get the $2 billion?" so $200 million is more in the range, I think. I had to get a job selling Sprint phones B2B to small businesses in the South, work my way out of there and get some financial aid from Cal State East Bay. I'd been a junior Computer Science major at Cal State Northridge when I was living with Laurie before the surgeries. And Tina Kimmel, a Cal Ph.D. in Social Work I met at the New Mexico Hog Farm after Woodstock got my sister to give me a $68,000 annuity that my dad left me, so that was pretty good, so I got to go to Monterey and Camp Winnarainbow, and they're paying for a lot of things now. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. I'm still a senior Computer Science major and pre-law. Afterwards Alberto died, I called Richie from the board-and-care, he called my sister, I called him back, and he had terminal liver cancer. Alberto flew out and carved his tombstone, and he picked out wood for Tinker to make his coffin, but my sister wouldn't give me $100 to visit him at Camp Winnarainbow before he died. Steve had died of hep C. Then Hunter Thompson committed suicide. When I was going to the LAT psychiatrist to whom they forced me to go, I emailed Cap'n Skypilot to post something I could show him on his office computer, and he wrote a story about a man whose parents he said were responsible for the death of Ken Kesey and the assassination of JFK. When I got up here Vince Welnick committed suicide. I ran into Lou Todd, then he got sick and died, and then Tinker, who I once saw drive the Furthur bus. Charlene said her landlady wouldn't rent her house anymore, she moved in with her daughter; her other daughter got accused of murder, and she didn't do it. Laurie's elementary schoolteacher friend's apartment caught on fire and they blamed her. My Deadhead lawyer friend said his SUV caught on fire. I can't figure out the reason for all this. I would be interested if anybody, especially with legal knowhow, had any helpful advice. I'm thinking of appealing to my Yale classmates, to see if any of them are big-time lawyers yet, and I don't think any Democratic politicians have seen it, since most of them don't have email addresses. They were telling people I was dying, but the doctors said my numbers were good, so you can't die from controlled diabetes, maybe it was just wish-fulfillment. And Jerry famously died of a diabetic heart attack in a drug rehab, maybe someone got ideas. While I was in Brentwood the lawyer sent me a copy of the trust instrument where my parents had initialed that when my mom dies, the inheritance, which it originally says was divided into thirds between me, my brother, and sister, they rubbed me out and divided it in half between my brother and sister. She'll get my mom's house worth about $2 million, and she has a $4.3 million house in Bel-Air, and a house in Telluride, and my dad bought my brother a house in Sedona. I was living in Laurie's apartment. My brother will get my dad's commercial property in Oakland, a tire and party store. And there's some money they'll divide in half. Eric Abrahamson Yale University Class of '71 Pierson College
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Hey nowI kinda like the psycho iko clown. Sure the new one is cool, but not sure if it is better. I thrive on originality, and if anything, that clown was pretty damn original. At least I had never seen it. Oh, and klang, you weren't making things unhappy, if anything you brought some humor to this message board. I hope you get tickets, but if you're one of the hallway twirlers, just don't spill my beer. Oh, and if they do add Santa Clara shows, I hope you get tickets. I think they should add them after everything that happened with tickets here in Chicago, and, not that they owe us anything, but it would be nice to see them give the west coast a Free Thee Well. Peace bro, and keep the faith. ;-)p
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...and I don't condone supporting the scalpers....but.... Vivid seats is lower than StubHub for the cheapest no view seats (under 3 bills)
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..where are you going with that gun in your hand. Hey thanks man(!) gun notwithstanding. Agree +100 on the Cali show comment. Also bargainseatsonline has same price (under 300). Stay away from Seatgeek and TicketsNow, they are higher. One thing all these places offer are ticket guarantees though, like StubHub; but Craigslist...nothing. With CL better go in with backup, and have a ticket validity expert with you as well and only buy when they HAVE THE TICKETS. But if you (we, I) can wait, that is best. (Prices should continue to fall, but how much is unknown and I can't wait until mid-June to get a ticket)
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Cheapest I see is $393 one date.
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Cheapest day
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maybe can't use dollar sign or include link to aftermarket site price was 2 9 5
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When I bought my "broker" ticket way back before all the real (and beyond limited #'s ) of firsthand tickets went on sale VIvid tix were way cheaper than Hub GA Pit tix. I was told the reason if Vivid can't produce they sub equiv or 100% money back but Hub has a 200% money back guarantee. I went with Vivid but have no idea where that seat will be even though I purchased GA Pit. I lucked out with CID VIP for same night so I know I've got atleast one legit seat. Will not be surprised at all if Vivid just refunds me as not available as promised like the Super Bowl tix they could not deliver. My CID was 200$ cheaper that the broker ticket. So I'm in limbo waiting to sell the extra ticket at cost in case it does not materialize. it will be good when people actually have tickets in hand-- then these sales will be real not just based on people waiting to see what tickets they are actually in possession of.
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Don't worry, lots of time for cheaper seats.
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Yes but I purchased from vivid that's what they were selling--obviously the broker will need to resell me one and how they plan to get a ga pit for 700$ seems ? My CID is in lower bowl reserved next to stage not a pit or field.
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This event has produced so much negative energy that there's no way it will be a true Grateful Dead event. Jerry would never have allowed something like this. When I first heard about these shows I was all-in despite the fact that I had gone to very few shows since Jerry died. After seeing the negativity that has surrounded the ticket situation, I have no desire to pursue tickets or attend the shows. I'll be much happier listening to my favorite shows at home instead of wrestling with clueless douchebags at a Jerry-less quasi-Dead show.
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You have the right to your own opinion. Many of us have banded together in an attempt to overcome the ticket situation and negativity. Personally one of the main reasons I see it as a GD show (and different than The Dead) is Bruce will be there. He was an actual member of the band and also has dead tunes in his repertoire (e.g. lady with a fan and Jack Straw). We know Jerry isn't gonna be there in the flesh, but we are summoning up the ol' guy for 1 more journey into the unknown. I think it is gonna be special and the before and afterparties will be for the ages! P.S. Those thoughts of 'why bother' have crossed the minds of more than 1 person here (myself included who is ticketless but still has a line on something local, limbo locale that's me). We are trying to put together something that will elevate the scene and make the event even better than what those people are saying it won't be cracked up to be in the first place! Sunshiney Daydreamers Unite! KLANG IS BACK!!!! (and inspired)
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Tickets will get cheaper by the dozen, don’t succumb to these scalper scumbags. Stub Hub Quick Analysis Notes I hand wrote down on each date: Mar 7 Mar 31 Friday 1611 1769 Saturday 1578 1786 Sunday 1407 1620 3 Day 829 847 Total 5425 6022 That is 597 more tickets now which is an 11% increase in the past 23 days. I honestly thought the number would have gone down in this time frame when I first wrote down the number back on March 7. I have also seen for example 2x3 day passes directly behind the stage go from over $3000 on 3 occasions several weeks back, to many now selling well below $2000. Lowest sold for $1615. 2 such passes end today in 14 hours from now and both have highest bid less than $1250 right now. Don’t sweat getting tickets, they will be plentiful and much cheaper as time passes. All tickets, not just behind the stage will drop!! Cheers Greg
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I may be stating the obvious, but Stubhub's list prices are the "all in" price - what you see is what you pay. Vivid, Liquidator and others show list prices before the add-on charges (they come up at check-out). Taking that into account, the sites are usually comparable, and Stubhub often is the cheapest.
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Does anyone know if the three day passes are one ticket or three separate ones for each night? How did it work with Phils Birthday run or other runs anyone knows of in the past that sold multiple day passed? I appreciate the help thanks for any info.
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Cant wait to dance in Chicago, DA Bears! See you there, looking for anyone with the last 5 vegas shows on tape. pm me.
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I agree that more tickets are being offered and it looks like the no view/obstructed view prices are dropping but anything with a view is still outrageously high and not getting bids or BINs on eBay. Who will blink first? I don't know.I know from experience and I'm sure you all do too, after the stage is set up and the exact configuration is known, some more tickets might pop up on TM a day or two before the shows. However, since it appears all the seats on the sides and in the back were already sold I'm not sure if there are any remaining seats that could become available. I believe the crap no view/obstructed view/nosebleed seats will come down a lot. I think the GA Pit/GA Field will come down too, but not as much or as quickly. The demand is too high. I think some people will get lucky and score a GA or something otherwise decent in the parking lot for face value on show day, but overall I'm not confident that tickets will be plentiful and cheap. Deadheads who got extras and are trying to make a profit to pay for their trip might finally relent and let theirs go for face value if it gets down to the wire but I think professional scalpers will remain stubborn a lot longer.
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Klang - we knew you'd pull through! Let the festivities begiiiiiiiiin!!! - Happy Camper
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Been watching the posts for the last several weeks and just wanted to weigh in with a reality check. Fuck this whole abortion! To hell with all this Holy Than Thou Bullshit!Fuck Warner Music, Rhino Records, GD Productions and the Band! (Not GDTS TOO) they got fucked to just like the rest of the Deadheads! Not one person I know who has been going to shows for 37 plus years has gotten any tickets! I do know of 2 separate people that got tickets who are very nice people. 1 never saw the Grateful Dead and the other saw 1 show......Both have seen Furthur etc etc. I can easily afford the tickets but there is no FUCKING way I am paying $500 plus to see a show! I never paid more than face for any of the 330 shows I have seen and in many cases paid less than face and have been Miracled and have Miracled many tickets! Everybody that is attending is NOT attending a Dead show. They are attending a FUCKshow! Its just total Bullshit... Like Dennis McNally was quoted in a Rolling Stone article a few years back concerning Marin County " There nothing left of the Grateful dead out there but memories" I don't even want to go...Just disgusted and happily sitting this one out...Forever! My brothers, sisters and the Ghost of Tours Past are just laughing now and enjoying all of our old war stories comfortable in the knowledge that we wont be missing anything in Chicago that remotely resembles the time or space of a Grateful Dead concert. Peace out!
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Sorry I forgot, Fuck Shapiro too!
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I'm still optimistically thinking there may be an additional ticket release and some sections haven't been placed on the market yet. There is a pattern of sections across all three days with no scalper tickets. So either those haven't been sold or they are mail order. If they were mail order, I would think there would be at least 1 ticket for sale in almost all sections even without having tickets in hand since it makes sense to list them now while prices are high. This may be why more tickets were listed early March as people got confirmation emails. The empty sections may be tix not released yet. Add to that a second tix release would knock the sails out of scalpers prices. The people who run the shows know this. Having said that, my opinion on prices is that without an additional tix release or more shows, good seats aren't going to drop down to anywhere near face until the day of the show. Maybe $500 for the floor. Crappy seats maybe to 2-3x face.
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First off I love Bruce Hornsby and his solo shows are amazing! But if him being there makes it a GD show then what does Donna not being there make it? Definitely not trying to sound like I'm dumping on Bruce but damn she was around longer than he was! And I've heard from many an older family member that although Jerry was a huge part of the band, it hasn't been the Grateful Dead since Pig left the band.
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Stadiums are not my thing at all. Wife never saw any of the members play, nevermind together. I dropped out after Jerry died. It will be somewhat of a frankenstein, but I'll have fun....even sitting behind the stage. I know of nobody in my circle who got mail order or TM (other than me) or VIP and none of them know anybody either. Completely shut out. I was able to get two behind the stage via TM for one night.
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Kudos The-11 for speaking your peace man... Do you think you'd feel the same if you had scored GDTS TOO tix? I struck out on all ticket oppty's but I received miracles combined with paying the piper. It is what it is. I'm certainly not going for the "quality" of the music - that went away decades ago. We all know that. I'm going for what the band and their music and it's scene has meant to me (for the past 38 years). Sounds like they meant a lot to you too - get to Chicago - you'll have a blast. Cheers !!
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Thanks for your thoughts. I was pissed at GDTS TOO when I could not order GA tickets from them. That's when the bad taste started for me. I tried Ticket bastard also. After that I just checked out!
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Take it or leave it. It's your choice, but all the serious negativity from some is nonsense and does not contribute to the scene. It only takes away.
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Stay Grateful All! Stellar to see positivity gaining momentum. More blessings of beautiful music and people coming soon. Nothing left to do or say except see you in Chicago and it will be pristine.
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well said
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Has anyone heard or read anything that gives us any idea of how many GD Chicago tickets went to Phish-heads? Just wondering if it might make sense for those of us that have been shut out of Chicago to buy Phish tickets for their show in Alpine Valley (and possibly Shoreline, in case GD Santa Clara happens) to trade for GD Chicago (and possibly Santa Clara) tickets? These Phish tickets go on sale in a few days, so not much time to think about it. If enough of them really do have GD Chicago tickets, they might be very interested in a trade if they can't get Phish tickets for Alpine (and Shoreline) because we have them.
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Those who are slamming the Chicago shows, ask yourself - what would I be saying if I had gotten tickets?
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I've talked to friends who are Phish heads [cause I'm not one either] and other people in the jam band scene, plus I lived in Vermont for five years. Most Phish heads don't like Grateful Dead music and some are resentful of deadheads cause they were labeled as a copycat band.Besides, even though Trey is joining the band, they are going to play GD songs not Phish songs!
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What's the problem with a guy/gal stopping by and speaking their mind. Are we really that insecure that someone with an opinion one way or the other poses a threat to our well-being. I might state things a bit differently, but WTF do I know. Personally, I have a much bigger problem with "heads" paying their way on the backs of Heads than I do with anyone venting about what they perceive. Smiling while you're handing over money to a dbag is not, has not, and never will be part of the scene. I am ticketless, but I can wait 'em out. I may be old(er), but the last time I checked there were still three months to July. I don't understand the rush. If I am still standing outside the stadium ticketless as the show goes on, then it will be time to smile, smile, smile. For now, rage away if you so desire.
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I was streaming Billy and the Kids last weekend. It occurred to me that now even the drummer has his own cover band! It feels like everyone in the Jam community has to have their own version of a Grateful Dead cover band - but no one really comes close without Jerry. With props to Phil and Bob for some great jams over the years since 1995 - I still feel like we have arrived to find ourselves in a musical paradigm no better than the world of Elvis Impersonators and Beatles Tribute bands. I am going to Chicago with my crappy seats. But frankly, I am more excited about the Phish tour. At least they do original stuff. And they are still creating new stuff. I'm for one am getting tired of everyone and their brother rehashing old dead concerts. Enough already! Let's enjoy the 50 (or not, as the case may be), then move on! It's done.
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Makes some very good points and i am too very pissed at the way it has all gone down. Just reading a few posts today really makes me realize even more how so many heads did not get tickets. Including me and all my fiends up here in the Great White North. My understanding is Pit were only sold through CID and GDTS, so it seems fucking scalpers infiltrated mail order to get tickets?!! Unfuckingbelievable pricks. Snail mail was put in place to stop them.
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Don't want you or the likes of you at the Chicago shows anyway Duprees! Stay home and bask in your negative aura and hope you don't regret not going! And for the zillionth time, the remaining band members are uniting to CELEBRATE 50 YEARS OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD! They are not and have not said come see a Grateful Dead concert.
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Correct, prices will NOT come down to cost but they will come down from the stratosphere to reasonable prices over time. The question is how much, honestly that depends on all of us without tickets. I can take or leave these shows, never went to stadiums after my first summer tour and without Jerry, it really isn't the Grateful Dead, and the band knows it otherwise they would have continued with the name. But, I have met a lot of cool people on here over the past 2 plus months and it would be great to go for one last scene and meet all these people. Back to us without tickets. I know lot of people want to go and have piece of mind they have tickets, but honestly, if we band together and just resist every bloody day, the good seats will come down big time. Crappy seats have dropped from $500 plus to close to $250 when buying 3 day passes on Ebay. I will NOT touch Stub Hub or any of those others, just too much of a ripoff. Good seats are NOT selling anymore for these prices, Ebay auctions just end with no bids. The odd person pays up but they are far and few between. On a final note. DONT BUY NOW, WAIT OUT THE PRICKS!!!
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Well folks, what did I tell you about Phish heads! Unfortunately, some of them [who also liked the GD] did take your tix. Talkin shit on the Grateful Dead and it's fans, even though they wouldn't be anything without what the Grateful Dead created. I'll guarantee Phish will never reach the legendary status that the GD has. That's pretty impressive that you compared them to the Beatles and Elvis! Seriously dude, without the back and forth, do you [or anyone on here slamming the Grateful Dead] feel justified in the rhetoric your spewing! The band members don't want the likes of you pilfering tix from those of us who are dead to the core!!
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You make me laugh! Enjoy "show"
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Ok, so here is some fool that just paid up almost double what they are going for. Thought it was a deal getting 4 X 3 day passes but paid $5560 which come to $1390 per pass. 4 passes in one sale and paid a fortune. 2 sets of 2 x 3 day passes are over in next couple of hours just over $1500. Even if they sell for $1700 that is $850 a pass. Ok, maybe harsh to call him a fool, but seriously, it is Heads like this guy that don't help the cause to get reasonably priced tickets. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRATEFUL-DEAD-FARE-THEE-WELL-Soldier-Field-July…
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Give your tix to someone who really deserves them!! You sit there and slam the band and say enjoy the 50th, then move on, it's done! Why do you think the band [who Phish modeled themselves after] allowed taping by fans and we have bootlegs > so we can relive our experiences. So many roads, so many experiences that made us who we are!! I've been around Phish heads, have friends who are into Phish, lived in Vermont for 5 years > they sit around just like deadheads and REHASH old concerts. Phish heads relish in their tape collection, just like deadheads!The Grateful Dead Community will live long after the last band member passes away and the original music is over! I am so proud to tell people I am a Deadhead - it's who I am and who I will always be! (~);} those in glass houses...
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Well at least I could make you laugh! Oh I will enjoy, so glad I'm not where you are!
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great idea TCarr, the only downfall is the worst case scenario... having NO Grateful Dead tickets and being stuck with Phish tickets! :)
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I have been lurking for sometime and posted when the mail order madness started flowing. Bruce is awesome. If you have never seen him live, you have missed out. He is a true artist and has talent far beyond what we all saw in the 90's. I am really hoping that the scene is a good one. Positive and respectful. I would hate to see a repeat of the chaos of gate crashing. I wanted to throw my name into the hat for the pic-a-nic, but I have been reading and not posting. Let's all agree that this is not the GD of Jerry, PigPen, Donna, etc, etc, etc...... This the chance to see the band we all know and love play the tunes that are familiar to us and hopefully do the best they can do to bring the magic back for three full days. I took pictures of the band at Hampton in '88 and Phil graciously autographed the one I took of him singing Box of Rain. It is a proud memory I have of that day, of that era, of that band. Looking forward to three days of music. The spirit is there. Let's embrace it.
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Of course it's ok to drop by and give one's opinion on here, the problem is after reading the same old complaints and same old comments that put down the band and the scene really wears on others. So, I can only help shed light on some of the absurdness on here! Just my opinion! And, for those who think all this negative vibe surrounding these shows is going to ruin it or "it won't be like a Grateful Dead concert", well you're missing out on what's going to be a real Celebration. Look into the "other" events and gatherings going down in Chicago that wkend! It's gonna be a real good time!!
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Well said Wharf!
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At the risk of redundancy, I appreciate that everyone can post here both positively and negatively. If you don't like a post, just stop reading it. People get so defensive at times--I guess it's a natural reaction. I was pretty damn pissed off at the beginning about the way this whole thing went down. Even though I still harbor criticism toward the band and others, I found myself turning the proverbial frown upside down when I decided to go to Chicago for other reasons. In many ways, it's another time's forgotten space. It ain't a Dead show, for sure, but there is something drawing Deadheads to this particular celebration a bit more than Phil and Friends, Furthur, etc. Maybe it's a need for closure, maybe it's to spark old memories that can never be truly relived, maybe it's a freakin' pic-a-nic or a bunch of strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hands. Can't wait to see some old friends and some new friends, flashing the eagle and blue sun logo and wearing a shit-eating grin. Meet me there, or moan and groan if you like. Either works.
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Nice find DevilsFriend! "Plans are being made to simulcast the three Grateful Dead concerts scheduled to take place in Chicago, July 3rd-5th. The California Film Institute intends to live stream all three shows into the Rafael Film Center"
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I'm with ya BobL. I'll keep an eye out for the colors. The circus in full regalia travels at least one more time. This shit is hard to find in this world and I damn sure wanna watch the scalper roast in person.