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  • Kate_C.
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    Yes. I suspect Pig was resting from his short reunion tour with the band in December '71 and fortifying his commitment to sobriety in what had to have been an unfathomably difficult lifestyle change (if not in terms of medical necessity, then certainly in practice).

    "Ace" was recorded from January - March '72, but recall that Pig's alcohol-related health problems forced a touring hiatus in August '71 that culminated with hospitalization in September for bleeding ulcers, hepatitis, and spleen problems. He was only able to rejoin the Dead beginning early December in Boston, at which time I recall Phil describing Ron as shockingly frail in his book. Not surprisingly, Pig's contributions are limited, and while progressively more energetic throughout the month (at least to my ears), they are still anemic by historical standards; though by NYE he sounds beat.

    In retrospect, it's a miracle that the Dead community (once and future) got Pig back in functional form for the brilliantly recorded European tour, especially given how quickly he dropped off radar for related health problems afterward.

    EDIT: And yes, "sabbatical" serves as a neat and entirely appropriate bit of shorthand in conversation among those who know....

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    bobby's "Ace" album

    essentially it was a dead album with everyone on board contributing except for Micky who was on a sabbatical, (as i see it) and Pig, why wasnt Pig contributing? was he too sick at the time?

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    RE: NYE '69

    CC, your post invites a bit of confusion by suggesting that you saw both the Dead and TSOC on the same NYE bill at Winterland in '69; though 50 years is an understandably long time. It's hard to imagine, but the Dead were not playing on a West Coast home field that December 31st, and were rather in the midst of an odd eastbound triptik that took them to Dallas on 12/26, Hollywood (FL) on 12/28, and the Boston Tea Party on 12/29-30, while closing out at the Fillmore East on 1/2-3/70.

    Indeed, the '69 NYE playbill on the poster you linked does not name the Dead. So TSOC and the GoGD were on opposite coasts at the decade's close. In any event, here's a link to a CM SBD for the Dead's '69 NYE show:
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/31?source=87994

    Incidentally, I couldn't find a poster for Boston NYE, but here's one from the night before (it would appear the promo dept. missed the spirit of the "grateful" dead; you'd think an impossibly early incarnation of Maiden was playing that night!):
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YQBsfGwVEeo/TUSkqEWWy3I/AAAAAAAARQs/qRvbGdWK_…

    However, you are correct that the Dead played NYE '70 at Winterland, but, consistent with the playbill cited in Deadbase50, the following promo poster does not show TSOC on the same stage, but rather NRPS, "assorted friends" (apparently Hot Tuna), and Stoneground (note also, "lights by Little Princess 109").
    https://img0.etsystatic.com/030/0/8448089/il_570xN.542921874_q4nc.jpg

    Checking Deadbase, here's a link to what seems the complete NYE '70 show; however, it appears to be mix of AUD and FM broadcast that provides poor sound quality through Cumberland (even so, the Truckin' opener is well worth a listen), but thankfully improves in time for the set's highlights at Cryptical and China>Rider through close at UJB.
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/12/31?source=88719

    Regardless of which show you attended, either would've been a great way to kick off your own personal attendance record! Got a story?/K

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    Thanks for sharing this post i really like this post

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    You may want to post this on the Dave's Picks 31 thread so more people see it. Most folks are there.

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    I can not find the 1st GD…

    I can not find the 1st GD show I attended anywhere in GD archives. No GD archive lists the same bands that I saw that night, as confirmed by the Sons archive which has the poster from that night:

    <<Wednesday, December 31, 1969: '1969 New Years Eve 1970', Winterland 2000 Post Street at Steiner Street, San Francisco, California
    The band was billed only as 'The Sons' on the poster printed for this show. Also on the bill: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna. Lights by Brotherhood of Light. This show, from 8:00pm to 8:00am, was promoted by Bill Graham Presents In San Francisco.>>
    http://brunoceriotti.weebly.com/the-sons-of-champlin.html

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    How do I update my address…

    How do I update my address for my Dave's subscription? Want to make sure #31 gets safely home!

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    limited releases logic explained

    Could you please explain the logic of "limited releases" as it applies to an "alternative" business model, such as the grateful dead" The "limited release" model is a concept taken from the good old music biznezz, in order to promote sales, keep prices high, and maintain collector value of limited products.
    I "missed" the window for daves pick's 30, a rare release from the year 1970, the first show that I recorded 1/3/70. I was disappointed, but managed to get one on a record/cd selling site. I paid double, but I still saved $$$, as I do not want to purchase a "subscription" to the daves picks yearly releases, as I am primarily interested in obtaining music from the 1966-1970 period, and not many releases are from these years. I guess I could always buy a subscription, and then sell off the unwanted items on another site for a profit, which is what this concept does, encourages a "black market". I do not consider this to be "progressive" in the least. I would rather purchase through GDCORP, as I have in the past, but if GDCORP wants to encourage this type of atmosphere, I am forced to participate in order to get what I want, and I am grateful to the sellers who have made it possible to get what I want. But it sure seems contrary to what Jerry's idea of business was.

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    passing this to the Doc
    stay tuned.
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    Hey there! I work for a Farm Craft Brewery in Virginia and we recently got accepted to have taps at the Lockn Music Festival this year. I have created a piece of art that combines our logo and labeling with a Stealie and would love to get it made into shirts for our team and possibly release a small barrel batch of bear grateful dead themed. We of course need right to use the Stealie and want to do things right! Could you please point us in the right direction of making this happen?!

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Thought was crazy too, at first. Would be nice to know again who's posting these fabulous photos.********************************** It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine
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anyone know when presale tickets get mailed out?
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Good Morning, wondered if someone knew when the pre-sale tickets would mail. I ordered tix a week later on regular sale date & rec'd those weeks ago. Thanks...Ron
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Will jimmy herring be playing with the dead
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Sometimes people post a series of photos and I notice if I comment on one of them it removes it from the series and takes it to the top of the latest post list, disrupting the original series. Is there a way that the person posting the series can note on page that it is part of a series of say, five and a way that the viewer can easily look at the series?Also, someone here in one of the forums mentioned some topics being buried beneath other topics. Is there a list of all forums? Perhaps I am just missing some obvious accessibility but there are certain forums that haven't been posted in, in awhile and I would like to go back and read. For example I am always looking for a good book to read and if I dig around I could probably find that book forum but I would love a big old list. Peace & Music from old Docks here, on dialup, in more ways than one. Again, Peace
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If users who upload photos that are a sequence would include a sequence number in the subject line it might make it easier for other users to follow that sequence, especially if the upload user's identity would return to the fan photo page layout (hint, hint.) If you go to a user's page all their uploaded photos can be found there. Regarding the forums, if you look at the top of left side of any page you should see a nav section titled "table of contents." The sixth major item from the top is the doorway to all forum topics regardless of how recently anyone has posted in them. It will take a little poking around to figure out where everything is as there are many nooks and crannies holding the melted content. Sorry, couldn't resist. Perhaps if there was a page structured like an exploded tree of links to all forum topics (sort of like a site map) it might make it easier for users to find specific topics more readily. Dialup? Ouch. I feel your pain. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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that "melted content" does rather rule the day. For example, you'll find almost as many people looking for tix in Tix Offered as people with tix for sale. So discussions are not always where you expect to find them. Hence you may find that search feature in the left-had bar useful also. E.g. if you want to find all discussions involving the Gorge, you can do a search for "The Gorge" and it'll bring up everything with the reference.
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Thanx for the tip on search but it seems there arent any answers so far to that question.The closest Ive seen is mail out dates 2 weeks before show ...not specific to the Gorge.............I will get by
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What is there like 514 pages on deadnet? Why could'nt you give each page a specific number, alphabetical order the topics and maybe have a spot on the home page for search topic {like google} to access topics or pages quicker. If you could remember a specific number, it would be much easier to relate a number with a topic.Just my opinion, Phatmoye
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the really short answer to that is that while we're looking at ways to make the place a bit more navigable, the fact is that the software on which this site runs is seriously deficient in dealing with some of these issues and some things are more fixable than others. Also, there IS a search function right there on the left, right above My Dead.net, which should help somewhat. But believe me, we're aware of the situation and trying to do what we can.
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also, some folks have suggested bookmarking topics you like, and you might find that a useful workaround.
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hey now, I was wondering if you could tell me who I might speak to about volunteering on spring tour.I trained with Calico. I passed out garbage bags in the rain with her at Alpine 89'. Whatever I can do to help make shakedown street a safe and fun experience, sign me up.I remember when the only way I knew what day of the week it was by my ticket stub. I couldn't wait to get to a dead show just so I could change my clothes.
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Is anyone used to the two week prior to show shipping from Music Today? I just want to make sure I'm getting the tic's I bought as I'm not used to waiting to just before a show to get delivery. Is this the regular way they do it? WE'VE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THIS TOUR SO I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS! WE LOVE YOU JERRY
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Is there a email address to report bootleg GD items on eBay to? I buy licensed GD items and sell on eBay and there is a ton of counterfeit GD items that I sell being reproduced in China and Thailand and being sold on eBay. Looking for someone to report these to. Thank you
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I'll pass this up the line and see that it gets to the right person, thanks much.
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I am looking for a contact for Press Passes, any guidance since I can't find a management contact? Thanks for help. Peace & Blessings Doc
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That's almost as funny as this: Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Greetings.... I know Ive asked this already....sorry....but...I did pre sale through GDTS for the Gorge...first day faxed in request....still nothing has been charged to my card ...I am going to be on the road in the next few weeks and hoping to see some action or update on the charging process for that show...I dont mind waiting for tickets as long as I know my order has been processed. Any word on when this might happen? Thanx!!!!!!!
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Not having ordered Gorge tickets, I can't speak to the status, but you might get a more direct answer by going to the GDTSTOO.com site and contacting the ticket ladies directly.
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Why am I laughing so hard at Mr. Pid's Video response to the DoctorTrip? Just a question. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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I've been running real slow hooking up to dead.net lately. I've done alot of work trying to speed it up with the puter. Is Dead.net really busy or is it my puter?_____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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the new releases and whatnot are drawing quite a crowd and things are a bit slow. This will probably take care of itself, but it's not you and we're aware of the issue. Thanks!
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Greetings.... I just received this reply from GDTSTOO...... We will start processing the Gorge in the next couple of weeks. You should be ok. On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Hope this helps anyone interested!!! gonna be a long long long crazy night!!!!
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I'm sure this will be a huge relief to many!
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Are cameras allowed? SLRs? professional gear? Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question - any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks! (looking forward to the MSG show and seeing Bob and Phil with the Allman Brothers tomorrow)
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historically still cameras including SLRs have never been a problem and video cameras almost always have. However, I would check with the venue as different ones have different policies.
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Has anyone received the tickets that were ordered online in January through dead.net? Albany and Worcester are three weeks away and still no tickets.
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Howdy! I do not have tickets for any shows on Spring Tour (yet) and just won a ticket to Roseland for this Monday! Yippppeeeee!!! I am wondering what the taping policy is for Monday's shows and the rest of the Tour??? Thanks! Brother Antonio (^_^)
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I ordered tickets for Buffalo and Izod the first day theybecame available from this site. I still have not received them - is this normal the shows are coming up soon. Help thanks joe
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I get the sense that they are shipping the hard tix out really late to prevent scalping, but you should have them in plenty of time. There's a lot of discussion of this in the various venue topics, so you might want to compare notes with people over in the relevant venue topics (e.g. Meet Me in Buffalo).
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I never recieved any alets and/or messages on friday 3/27 about shows on Monday 3/30. Did not hear about them till I logged in after 9:00pm. Just wanted to make sure I am signed up, which i thought I was ,, for all future announcements. Peace
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Same thing kind of happened to me...I didn't get the email announcement until late Saturday night and by then when I went to click on the link it said it was no longer available. So I know I'm signed up, just didn't get the email until it was too late.
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if in doubt, sign up for the email list again. Also, if you're already signed up and didn't get the notice, check your spam filter, because misbehaving spam filters have been known to grab vital messages!
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Hey Marye.....Can we still send private messages on here?? I found an old friend on the user list and would love to know how to get a hold of him. His user name is Cassidy Dodge. Thanks ...Chris
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if that's his user name and he doesn't have messages blocked, you should be able to send him a PM; just go to his profile page and click the Send A Message link.
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I must be blind or dumb cause I cant see send a messge link on his profile page. Under heading PERSONAL MESSAGES it says "block messages " thats it. ...chris
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Hey... I think I got it now. I went to edit my account and I had not checked the box " allow pM's " I guess. When I now pull up his profile I can write him a PM. THANKS !!!! ...Chris
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i have knit a sweater with what i hope looks a lot like a stealy on the back its not a print of the image or copy or reproduction its a knit sweater and i would like to sell it its highly impressionistic and im wondering if this is breaking the law as far as the image copyright is conserned
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I would like to know if GDTS sends out an e-mail before they send off the tix or do they send them out and they show up at the door??? I'm still waiting on 2 for 4/22 in Wilkes-Barre. From the Western Union in Ottawa here they do not do any american money orders so I sent a canadian money order. Know I relize that they asked for american money orders only and with the exchange I could be short by 2 or 3 dollars with our dollar falling since Jan. It will be a true miricale if the folks at GDTS can fix my order up and send some sweet tix. Any experiences out there with GDTS fixing things like this???
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I would go to the GDTSTOO site and take it up with the ladies directly. Someone posted the latest mailing status in the tour topic, and I think Wilkes-Barre is just now in process, but I could be misremembering.
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Thanks Marye, I have been asking and the latest word they tell me is that they have mailed my tix!!!! I can't believe it after I royaly screwed up my order, they made it right and have sent my order out. I allready have tix through Consider it Dan but with these now I can bring my 19 son who worked the winter on the ski hills out in BC and is coming back for the summer. I will now be stalking the mailman for a couple of days. LOL Fare Thee Well
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the GDTSTOO folks are indeed a very nice bunch.
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I was just wondering what this whole vine deal is? Can someone please send me a PM and explain................ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ May the Four Winds Blow You Safely Home... I Miss Jerry
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subee03deadhead, go to the Vineyard >New Vines forum and read the introduction there. All will be revealed ( I hope). Then you can start signing up. If it is not clear feel free to ask again over there.
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the New Vines 2009 topic! Excellent and detailed instructions there.
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Seems like mine take days to post. Am I doing something wrong or what?Peace