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    TCarr
    9 years 10 months ago
    If it's the case, allotment changes are still unfair changes
    Hello All, If the allotment of tickets available for mail order is indeed being changed after the fact, that too is simply not right. Had the process been disclosed, up front, as 100 percent mail order, we all would have done mail order and there would have been a level playing field. But, to change allotments and/or the presale and general sale after the fact, just because more mail orders arrived than anticipated, should not reduce non-mail order purchasers chances. Perhaps this should have been 100 percent mail order with every person having to send in their own individual order, with a one ticket per show limit, with the buyer's name printed on the tickets, and requiring ID that matches the name on the ticket for entry at Soldier Field. That would have also made scalping a lot tougher. If it is the case that "mail order will get allotted more tickets if demand is high", and that had been disclosed up front, I probably would have done mail order. But, it is simply not right to change any allotments after the process started. I vote to return everyone's mail order, unfulfilled, and start over with 100 percent mail order. Let's make this a fair process, rather than giving an unfair, after the fact advantage to mail orders. Just my 2 cents for the 2 tickets per show I would like to buy, for me and my wife. Tom Carr Los Angeles, CA
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    Laurela47@gmail.com
    9 years 10 months ago
    I think everyone should take
    I think everyone should take a breath and thank the fine folks at GDTS TOO. They have a huge task ahead which they might not have anticipated and I know they will be working hard to hand out as many miracles as possible. Although I have a pit in my stomach about not getting my tickets, I will go to Chicago regardless because I miss the community! My last show was there. I really hope that my last last show is there as well. So good luck to the staffers. You got this! Crank up some tunage and keep sorting!
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    inspired 1
    9 years 10 months ago
    Estimated-eyes, I think you
    Estimated-eyes, I think you hit the nail on the head. I hope you're wrong about the brokers percentage-wise. That's precisely the reason why there is a GDTS or GDTS Too now, to make it a little bit of a process to do and, to have to commit money up front.(but if you like Black licorice).. Hopefully the brokers will find it easier to scalp Taylor-Swift. It's much better to do it this way and try to level the playing field. I can't compete with someone who has 20 buddies or employees with multiple logins, syphoning off sections at a time. with only 3 nationwide shows this was always a lottery at best. Even we who Mail Ordered should plan on Having our own July 5th celebration...But I hope to see you in Chicago. 0 0
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/221733635701?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2661&ssPag… 300 a ticket if people want to split, this is a relist. 3 day pass did not sell starting at 925. Now it starts at 900, short list only a couple of days. These are upper deck but should have a pretty good view. Sec 439 row 11. It's a bit pricey in my opinion but if some people want to get some piece of mind it isn't terrible compared to the other current pricing the scalpers are asking (even no view).
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This 80's show got me gratefully wondering....ever think they will go 1st set Acoustic especially with Bruce in the midst.
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still too much. scalpers are starting to worry, and really they should. This ain't the Beatles or Led Zep or Cher or any popular band that mainstream folks want to hear. Now, I'm sure there a few posers that want to be seen, or whatever it is they desire, but good old Grateful Dead is not what they listen to, most can't tolerate a CD's worth at one time. First show will be enough to convince many of those to sell next 2 days. Mostly, though, I believe these high prices will deter people from buying and lack of demand will put downward pressure on prices, especially when tickets hit mailboxes. We were forced to make quick decisions to mail, and I believe some that got tickets will come to realize they can't attend.
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DO NOT PAY SCALPER PRICES Scalpers are holding on to the better seats to sell later after they liquidate the crappy ones. Dead Heads stick together and wait until June, there will be lots of tickets available. BUY IN JUNE All these scalpers are scattered throughout the country, they will not be coming to Soldier Field to peddle them outside the stadium, they will need them sold before show dates. Most Dead Heads are NOT buying at these inflated and outrageous prices. Only a handful of people with what seems to be more money than brains are buying. Almost all auctions are ending unsold and have to be re-posted. KEEP THE EBAY AUCTIONS AT 0 BIDS!!!!! Stub Hub have 851 more tickets to sell today than they did on March 7!! 254 more tickets on StubHub in just 3 days!!! Even with some sold, more are now for sale, does that tell you something, inventory is growing!! More tickets, better seats, and lower prices will be what follows over the course of time. We just need to remain calm and good things will follow. Dead Heads did NOT pay over face value for 30 years when Jerry was alive, let's not start now. Maybe a small premium but that is it. Honor Jerry and the band, we WILL get tickets. Teach them that you don't mess with Dead Heads!! Stub Hub Stats. Tickets for sale by date. Mar 7 Mar 31 Apr 3 Friday 1611 1769 1853 Saturday 1578 1786 1826 Sunday 1407 1620 1743 3 Day 829 847 854 Total 5425 6022 6276
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Yup, this is all exactly right. The shortage of tickets is not due to some miraculous expansion of the number of Deadheads, but rather the cornering of the ticket market by dbags. The only thing that will happen between now and July is that they will start eating their own. Although not Chicago, I did "win" an eBay auction for a Merriweather VIP for over $200 LESS than face. The seller immediately cancelled the auction and did not deliver, but the example is clear. He claimed innocence and indicated he just wanted his money back, but his buy it now price of $1500 over face indicates otherwise. Sit back a relax until the feeding frenzy starts. I know it's tough, and believe me, I want to go as bad as anyone else, but supporting this system runs against everything that led to this 50 year celebration.
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Agreed I am holding off for awhile myself also. Keeping my eye on ebay though.
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Agree with previous comments. I did an academic study of ticket prices for Pearl Jam's 2013 Wrigley Field show - I have a doctorate in Finance and Economics and a big interest in market efficiency. There are many similarities between the Pearl Jam show and Fare the Well including unreal demand, many disappointed fan club members who didn't get tickets in presale, immediate sell out in public sale - with many stuck in virtual waiting room, Cubs season ticket holders and Wrigley residents getting pe-sale access, initial ticket sales were also in Jan/early Feb and concert in July. The only difference is supply of 210,000 for the Dead vs. 40,000 for Pearl Jam. While Pearl Jam tickets were actually cheapest in March, with prices never really declining from early secondary market prices, and increasing each month until the concert, Dead tickets have already declined significantly as noted in some previous posts. My guess is "get in" tickets in the nose bleeds and behind the stage will continue to drop in price and should be very available for reasonable prices close to the show. Better seats will continue to remain pricy. However, a true game changer is lurking, if the two CA shows are on, there should be further price reductions due to the additional supply. In sum, patience is the key. Only buy when you're very comfortable with the price. See you in Chicago on July 3rd!
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This Scumbag has a 2x3 day GA Tickets on Ebay and the bidding is up to $6050. That is over $1000 a ticket and the Reserve is not even met. What a prick!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Grateful-Dead-Fare-The-Well-3-Day-Passes-July… I hope the bidding falls short of the Reserve and he has to start the auction over again and does not get bids nearly $6000. Keep re-posting it for months and get like $1200 when he has to sell it the day before the shows, lol. What I really hope is my Ebay auction is getting out to as many Dead Heads as possible to NOT bid on anything, unless fairly priced. Here is my auction. Not really an auction, but a public service announcement, lol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grateful-Dead-Fare-Thee-Well-Scalper-Lesson-A-M…?
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I wouldn't bank on those ticket counts. Stubhub has different counts depending on where you look (for example 846 vs 786 3 day passes) and if you add up the tickets in each section, the number you get doesn't match what is advertised. In general, prices haven't moved enough to matter. My opinion is if you are worried about getting shut out and are fine with the price then by all means go ahead and buy. Many people are in the situation where cost of travel, hotel, etc mandates a different approach.
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Happy Easter from a northEASTER.. little humor to break the scalper noise. Meaning we usually prevail anyway.Like they say good things come to those who wait.
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Thanks for the PJ Wrigley comparison.My wife and I scored fan club tickets to that epic show but there were some differences in the 2 events. First it was one show only, no other PJ shows in the USA that year. Second was the large number of fans who came from overseas to catch the show. PJ has a ravenous international following and many had $ to burn. The 4 hour rain delay was a total mind fuck. Show started at 7:30, played 25 minutes than 2 thunderstorms came through. The entire field (20,000 fans) had to evacuate the field and crush under the stands for 4 hours. No one knew if the show would continue and in Wrigley tradition they ran out of food but continued to sell beer! Could have been a disaster but the storms passed and PJ was allowed to go way past the midnight curfew and took the stage again at midnight and played until 2:15AM. Even the great Ernie Banks stayed up to welcome the fans back to the rest of the show. Of the 500+ concerts I have seen in my life it has to be one of the most memorable. BTW during the rain delay less than 1,000 people left only 2% of the 42,000 fans I hope the GD experience comes close to that epic day!
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I ended up being in the situation I feared when I first heard about these shows. I have the means to go but due to various things being sold out, I am going to be unable to be there. Hoping for those California shows, that would also be closer to home.
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Yup, a very good friend, who mailed ordered for one ticket to all three days, got rejected yesterday.Kinda sucks, but at least she did get a three day pass through ticketbastard.
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Or so I think...some guy checked into SD yesterday said 3 day GA GDTSTOO ....
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Or so I think...some guy checked into SD yesterday said 3 day GA GDTSTOO ....
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Nice post estimated-eyes, and I also enjoy many of JesterC's posts. I stopped posting a while back and this will likely be my last post. It's tiresome. Not only some of the negative stuff but the conspiracy bull, the scalper scum comments, ebay obsessing and the mythical CA shows which were obviously not happening weeks ago. It's too dominated by the same people droning on about the same topics. Imo, the worst part about this FTW experience has been the "fan" reaction. Too many people coming off as jilted or injured in some way. You can't google FTW or GD without negative articles, forum posts, etc. So, fuck it. Fare thee well to tuning in as it's far better to just drop out and wait for the positive jams in Chicago. Woo hoo, can't wait for Chicago. :)
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Going to shows in Chicago. Will be my first ones sober. looking to find like minded people. I am familiar with Wharfrats but want to make some contacts before shows. Look forward to hearing from you.
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D Wolf C. Keep up the reports. The pressure must be working some. Last week there was a guy on ebay whohad two club seats for sale, way overpriced. He was hyping up the shows and saying why they were worth so much, like he'd ever seen one. He also mentioned some DeadHeads were giving him a hard time . I made a low offer and then sent him a simple non-obscene one sentence note saying he should be ashamed of himself. He went off on me like crazy----all Caps, all kinds of threats. And seemed to think I was directly part of some conspiracy. Pretty funny, although actually a little scary. I'm thinking it's pretty likely that prices won't be too bad in June.
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A pair of obstructed view tickets went for $435 total in an auction that ended tonight - $217.50 each. They are in 441 and for the Friday show. The "get in" price is dropping.
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Besides the guy hyping his club seats (Upscale food and drink options!!!), there's a guy selling no-view seats who notes how close to the stage they are and says the concert will be set up for 360-degree viewing. He did not respond to my message indicating he ought not to say that.
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Hey now, sober for 17 yrs now, and many shows under my belt, both "back in the day", and now these past years sober. I regularly attend the Wharf Rats meeting on the set breaks, and have a wide circle of sober Dead friends! See the Wharf Rats thread here on Dead.net to meet more of us. I'll be at the Chi-town shows all 3 nights, and will be happy to make your acquaintance.
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Ebay Policy is event tickets MUST be in the seller's hand. If you have the time, like some of us others doing, please report any and every Auction on Ebay that what these sellers are doing is AGAINST Ebay policy. Force them to wait until June and the panic to sell them ASAP will be on their minds! Thanks for the comments here guys. I am getting a ton of emails from Dead Heads on Ebay loving my auction post. This ad on Craigslist inspired me to do what i can help with the Scalper Scum. http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tix/4917300085.html
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Dear Grateful Dead Scalpers - Hi. It's us.... AGAIN. Yep. You're still at it, trying to sell tickets you don't have yet to a show you have no interest in. You guys think you've hit the jackpot. Nope. Instead, you've kicked a hornet's nest!!! Well, here's what you don't know. Much like Anonymous, we are everywhere. And we are legion. Who are we? We're former presidents, international heads of state, current US senators, political pundits, doctors, lawyers and Ph. D's. So, we're smart. We're willing to listen to 15 minute drum duets and talk endlessly about the tiny nuances in 30 minute Dark Stars. So, we're patient. We're a group that, in a lot of cases, followed a band around the country, selling delicious burritos, lovingly made grilled cheeses, handmade clothes, all searching for fleeting cosmic connections with a band night after night. So, we're both industrious and persistent. And, above all, by far and wide, we consider each other family. We look out for each other. Which means when you try to screw us, we'll get the word out. And remember, we're everywhere. That post I made yesterday...it went viral. It went to places I'd never heard of, posted by people that I've never met, commented on by people that don't know me from Adam. All of them saying the same thing: We like this guy's style. We're going to do what this guy's doing. And that brings me back to you, Mr. Scalper. We're smarter than you. We're more patient than you. We're more persistent than you, too. We will flag every post that you make where you ask for sums of money that could pay for a used Mercedes Benz. We will flag every post where you tell us that lowball offers (meaning, face value) aren't accepted. We will flag every broker, every season ticket holder who had dollar signs in their eyes instead of kindness in their hearts and everyone that just wanted to make a quick buck off of the most passionate and loyal fan base on the planet. But we're not stopping at Craigslist anymore. People have gotten wise to the fact that you can't sell tickets without holding physical product on eBay. So all of those auctions are getting flagged. And we'll figure out a way to stop you on StubHub too. If you think you're going to shut us out, think again. We'll throw parties at our houses and pop for the pay per view. We'll hang around outside of soldier field (where the sound is actually pretty good) and hang with family instead of corporate VP's trying to catch a part of history while half mumbling the lyrics they remember to Truckin'. We'll let you eat those tickets that you thought you were going to make 1000% profit on. Sure, there are a few deadheads that have done well in life that can afford four figures for tickets, and they'll pay for GA Pit tickets. But after a few days of low hanging fruit, the vast majority of you are going to be left holding on to tickets that you were planning on selling for 10 or 20x face value. And you'll keep holding onto them. And keep holding onto to them. Until you realize that 90% of us won't pay a dime more than face. As I've said before, the price on the ticket is that price for a reason, and it's not negotiable. You clearly weren't banking on a united front. But that's what you've got. You can be smart and sell your tickets for a reasonable price (meaning, face value, or a little more for your time if you must), or you can keep thinking you hit the jackpot. But, as we've already discussed, that's not the case. We're going to keep flagging you until we break you. So, you keep telling me about Forbes articles, offers commensurate with current Stub Hub prices and how it's worth $7500 to make sure I don't miss out on the "concert of the century." I'll keep flagging away. WE'LL keep flagging away. Because we're Deadheads, and we're everywhere. And don't you forget it.
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Another option for tickets is the Suites at Soldiers Field. Send them an email or give them a call. I heard they are releasing the suites this week. I was lucky with mail order but thought I'd pass this along.
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Oh man, what would thwy cost? I bet a fortune.
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Dire Wolf Cichlids, I've attempted to report an eBay listing but the pull down menu doesn't offer a "seller doesn't possess item" option. Please share the process steps and I'll start flagging them.
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The tickets are $200 but you have to buy the whole suite, 12-36 seats. Also, while they have a video feed you may not have a stage view.
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gonna buy tickets from some scalper, period.
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The reporting method is rather lacking in detail. There are 3 drop downs. What you choose in the first drop down determines the next drop down choices, and same going to the third. These 3 look to be the best to choose IMO. Listing Practices Other Listing Practices Item Location Misrepresentation The more of us that report these the better our chance to get tickets fairly priced down the road.
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This may not be a good thing. What if a good deal comes up (and some have), and 1 of us (or some of us) try to buy it and then it gets pulled down because 1 of us flagged it? In this case we would be shooting ourselves in the proverbial foot. Then we have prevented ourselves from getting tickets for a reasonable price at this point in time. Some of us need some piece of mind to make travel plans and such. (Just playing a friend of the devil's advocate here.) And it would appear that ebay does allow sales of items not in current possession yet as long as certain criteria is met, such as copies of receipt and ticketmaster confirmation and credit card/paypal documents etc. So I am a little unclear how all this would work but plenty of people are making these purchases right now and it seems to be all above board as far as I can tell.
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Those were the choices I saw when I went looking and I didn't know if there was some other option. Thanks for confirming, DWC.
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That's a good point. I haven't seen anything that I consider a good deal yet, I just wanted to flag the ones that are outrageous, which is most of them. I certainly wouldn't mess with something that was at, or near, face value. In fact, I would bid on it. I think if you're able to exercise the BIN option and close the deal before an auction gets shut down, you should be okay.
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I find the buy it now prices to all be unreasonable. But there was a 3-day pass in some semi-obstructed section that sold for 530. I know this is not face value, but $176 got someone in the door for each day. This is about 100 over face but still it is not exactly an unreasonable scalper price either. IDK, but it seems to me to be a bit hypocritical to flag someone for $3000 ticket but not flag someone for a $500 ticket when the reason they are being flagged is for selling a ticket they do not have in their possession. Just sayin'...
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$530 doesn't sound outrageous to me either, but $3000 does.I think there were at least a couple that were put up with opening bids of .99 (and then skyrocketed) but that just seems different than starting with an opening bid of $900 and a hidden reserve and a BIN of $2000. It's all subjective but some sellers seem to be entirely bereft of a conscience. I also admit that I'll bid on an eBay auction if I see one for an unobstructed seat at a price I can live with. However, I would have no problem throwing roadblocks in the path of the greedy bastards who want thousands per ticket. That said, a lot of these auctions are ending with no bids so I guess the marketplace is already speaking for us. I won't be a tattletale on eBay. :)
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See below, I reported this ad and it was removed by ebay, rolflmao! Ebay Scalper Scumbag – coffeyappraisal This Scumbag has a 2x3 day GA Tickets on Ebay and the bidding is up to $6050. That is over $1000 a ticket and the Reserve is not even met. What a prick!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Grateful-Dead-Fare-The-Well-3-Day-Passes-July…
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Remembering traffic and a ocean of smiling faces and then we we standing on holy ground giving sharing caring of each otheres spaces and falling to the ground picturing a bright blue ball spinning free singing and and shaking are bones ..love to the dead community and Chicago!
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Must be working or something as about a dozen auctions I was watching disappeared overnight.It seems like the full time ticket scalper ones are still there for the most part, however.
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I do agree with you Klangstone, I have only been reporting the ridiculously priced ones. Yes, reporting some and not all is hypocritical in some regard, but some people do want tickets so have to be somewhat selfish. Wow, there were 204 ads last night, which is around the average, woke up to see a mere 69. It is really working!! That is in search of "Grateful Dead" in "Tickets and Experience". If ever an ad needed to be reported and taken down see this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grateful-Dead-Soldier-Field-Chicago-Fare-Thee-W… Just in case it is gone and people want to see what some of it said: 1x3 day GA Pit Pass $5700 or pay $950 for 6 months He states "Sorry about my apparent greed, but times have been tough the past couple of years."
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Word (rumor, fact?) is tickets not being mailed now until even closer to show dates to prevent further scalping. Apparently the hypocritical logic applied here and the leverage thrown at Ebay and messages to GDTSTOO site has worked a reverse miracle--seems now tickets will only be for sale in the secondary market hand to hand since shipping time essentially made impossible if tickets arriving week of show as I'm hearing. So there will be no cheap seats listed and no inflated ones either soon-- with the reasons it's not fair to discriminate between levels of scalper profit. You can't sell any ticket not in your hand. Now you won't be able to buy either. Way to go vigilantes!!!
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Sorry, but I think any efforts to discourage scalping should be applauded. I don't know if what you are saying is true or is just a rumor. If true, these people aren't going to eat $$$$ by tossing them in the wastepaper basket. If it means that a bunch of dirt bags show up in person to flood the market with cheap tickets at showtime, I'm all for it.
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StubHub plans to establish their Last Minute Ticket Sales at the venue. I contacted them last week to see if they were going to provide service from their existing outlet, which is about 4 miles away. I was told they were working on setting up several on site locations as well. I know there are a of folks who despise Stubhub, probably for just cause. But this is where they can be useful. They may have tickets available until one half hour after showtime. Many sellers will have surrendered their tickets to StubHub prior to the event and will be dropping their prices drastically. This is their last option before tossing their tickets out. Remember too that StubHub guarantees the tickets they sell.
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...but can't say whether it is bad news or good news. The ticket debacle is ever evolving and to me, it makes not 1 bit of sense. My local guy with a ticket that I may get, is ignoring me (not answering my texts). I may get hung out to dry. Now it appears I have no chance of securing a ticket beforehand on the aftermarket. What next? Don't know what to think about all this BS except to say there appears to be no end to it, nor any limit to how high the level of BS will get...
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Still no hint of an announcement for Santa Clara. "They" are all messing with our 'heads to a level that is beyond belief. Whoever "they" are, the people in charge of sharing information, be it the band, the promoters or the admin staff for GD, they are not being kind at all. It's been weeks since Bill Walton's leak...and...nothing! Conjecture runs rampid, no news, no announcement. No kindness! Beyond frustrating, and TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. I hate conspiracies, and conspiracy theories, but this just plain stinks to the high heavens...(and heaven help us fools in this sinking ship...)
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Sorry to here things are still a struggle. Everyone's still pulling for you. Got To Get Better In A Little While.
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Just hope my single for July 3rd I got for a reasonable price that i am comfortable with on eBay doesn't arrive to me on July 6th!