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    I'm one of those 3rd generations. I was born in 1980, first listened to the GD in 92, got my 1st 2 CD's in 1993 which I think were a pretty popular buy among CD's for Dead fans. In the Dark and Skeletons From the Closet. I already had a musical love from listening to the GD in the short amount of time listening to them when Jerry died. I remember walking down the stairs half way to my mom doing her hair saying Jerry died this morning. She likes country music and only told me because she knew I loved the GD. I said no way, and walked back up to my room and cried. The breaker is my mom said you can see the Grateful Dead when you turn 15. I was happy. I had a very close cousin who had been the type of guy that not only goes show to show, he lived show to show. Well, anyways me and Jerry share birthdays (Aug. 1st) I turned 15 (in '95) and I was ready to find the next ticket. Seen that they were just in Chicago a few weeks ago at the time that July... Their last Venue. Days later after never finding out the next time they were going to come to the Chicago, Jerry ended up passing away on August 9th 1995 (we all know, but...) I just turned 15! Anyways at least I've seen the Dead, and to me the closest thing other than them... Dark Star Orchestra. I can count over 200 CD's in my GD collection, but that was all before 2002. I have about 2000 hours of live GD from just the computer and internet. I love the dead, and have come across many dead heads with the same knowledge that I do! I admit tho, I lack the experience! And the experience outweighs the songs, time a lifetime. I could get a copy of every show they ever played, and never get to feel, see, smell, hear, or even fathom what it was actually like to be there. That's why I love you! I love you all, good night... A dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago... ________________________ www.autoquoteresearch.com
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    what about a topic which deals with the fact that there is an evident change of DH generations underway.there are rhe seniors who are coming into their 60s(or more) now,than the middle of the road who came on the bus late 70s and the new ones who never had the luck to see the GD because when jerry passed away they were like 5-10yrs. old.wow,its in fact allready the 3rd gen. of DH and the 1st to grow up only on canned music.i am sure that the folks of all these 3 groups might have alot of interesting stuff to tell one another..:-)(-:peace to all
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    Musical Sandwiches!
    http://staging.dead.net/forum/musical-sandwiches under Grateful Dead - Personal Favorites
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    sounds like a good idea
    I'll add it to the list of topics waiting to get started when we've achieved happy serverhood...
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    Musical Sandwiches
    How about a Discussion Topic of your favorite "musical sandwich" and/or song segways? For example 10/9/89 Hampton, VA...GD started 2nd set with my all time favorite run of songs which was Playin>UJB>Playin Reprise>Dark Star 143or245 stay safe and feel good!
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    I dunno about the status of that art, but I'll ask around. Meanwhile, feel free to upload your envelope art to Fan Pix if you've got a scanner...
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    envelope art
    There used to be a spot on this sight where you posted some envelope art. I think it would be awsome and rad if you could put that back up, accompanied by all the envelopes you have. I like to see if any of mine are there I'm sure others would like to have a look see too
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    for the time being (and I agree it's a great topic) why don't you go and post what you just wrote in this topic: http://www.dead.net/forum/i-turn-channel-six-president-comes-news?, which is more or less the current events venue. If it takes off and it makes sense to give it its own topic, we will. Thanks!
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    Hi,My name is Anders....a guy, age 50, living in Denmark/Scandinavia. Love the music of The Grateful Dead....and been to 2 of their shows: 1981 , Copenhagen/Denmark & 1990, Berlin/Germany. Also I,ve been visting America twice...know some fantastic people there. BUT...what I,m about to ask You: Do You hope America one day gets a National Health Care System - like we have in Europe....OR do You prefer things as they are now ? Can tell You...nearly all people here in Denmark/Europe love our Nat. Healt Care Systems. We might pay a little more tax, due to this fact...BUT - in return, nobody NEVER has to worry about "what happens, should one get ill". Can just concentrate 100 per cent on getting better: and we never has to think about payng money to insurance-companies (insurance against sickness).... Saw Moores Film "Sicko"...think he is right, some of these "insurance-companies" that You have, MIGHT have a bigger interest in earning/saving money, than they have in giving their patient the best (and most costly) treatment ?? Have a nice Day in America. Greetings from Denmark, Anders
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    Works for me!!
    Thanks Izzie
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Tom Constanten is not mentioned in the family links!!!!!!!I interviewed him in April on WZRD Chicago 88.3fm when he was playing with Terrapin Flyer on 4-20.....I will be posting a link to it as soon as I figure out how....
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where can we post to ask about reccomendations on what shows to download or purchase?
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Hello, Love the new decor. "You are not allowed to post a new forum topic" Surely this is not going to be how this forum works? Politely incredulous Soeharto ____________________________________________ Asian Value #1: You May Not Question Asian Values -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Hey Mary! What's shakin'?Just what I needed, another diversion but it is a nifty site. I went to The Band link and the photo of Jerry there scared the bjeezus out of me! there are so many better shots of him,, I wish they'd change it. See ya' around ;) "if you get confused..."
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And yes, topic creation is turned off for the moment at least because we're trying to get things working properly on a relatively finite number of topics. If there's one you want started (like, say, TC and Donna Jean), send a message to izzie or me and we'll get on it. Thanks.
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how about a Grateful Life section? by this, I mean stuff which is connected to the grateful philosophy of life, all things grateful, and experiences we have had which may not have been at shows or totally band/music related. another, meeting heads in odd places, or experiences with heads in places other than shows/on tour. that could be called 'Strangers Stopping Strangers' like when I met a middle aged Indian gentleman in the gardens of the Taj Mahal and he went off on a tirade about why did the dead play in Egypt but never in India... another, 'Parking Lot' pretty much anything goes there. finally, a 'Soapbox' where peole could feel free to rant (in a nice way) about just about anything... food for thought. peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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after I wrote this and shut off the 'puter before, it hit me, why not make these topics into Sections, and then allow topic creation in these new areas? 'you can please all of the people all of the time' or create one new section with these headings (and any others people want) and allow topic creation? it would seem like a common sense solution. if it is a software issue, that it is either all or none, OK. but if the software of the board would allow topic creation in one or two sub-headings, why not?? no hurry, just chewing the fat here. (Naturally, I mean after you get all of the bugs out of the system and all that other stuff that you folks have to deal with) kind of like a compromise between festival seating and requiring people to sit in their assigned seats. people can move anywhere they want to on the floor, but if you are in the mezzanine, you should sit in your reserved seat. didn't Hampton do that in 87 or 88? just an idea. Compromise is one of the 'C's in C C Joe peace. Cheerfully Compromising Joe "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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How about a topic for all of our dearly departed friends? I don't know about you all, but I know way too many Heads who are dead... There were some very special people that many of us in the community knew who died on the bus. This seems like a great place to honor our memories of them.
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Its the achilles heel of this forum. Look at the URLs. It looks like if people were allowed to create new posts, and a duplicate topic is posted, it would mess things up because posts aren't arranged with numbers. I certainly hope things will change but I don't see how without ripping this thing down and adding a whole new forum. Can a MOD comment on this? _______________ insert obligatory signature here
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For the moment, it's primarily a chaos-management issue because a lot of things still aren't working quite right. But as mindbender points out, there are also meta-issues about the way the software handles things, and it's not exactly what we're used to either. We're kinda bumping down this road together, to say nothing of up the learning curve. And we're also trying to figure out how things might be structured a bit more intuitively and making incremental experiments with what tools we've got. I'm not kidding, the sections we have are the result of brainstorming last week about uh, what categories do we really need within the parameters of keeping it fairly simple during the shakedown? Not unlike a certain band, we're kinda figuring this out as we go along. So be patient with us, and keep the thoughts coming. Apropos of which, CC, we're trying to figure out some underlying structure issues, but at least a couple of them should be up today. And Lazy, yours is a little easier to implement, so I'll be back in a few with the link.
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It's called The Scene, and has two new topics, as requested!
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cool. very cool. thankx. mucho appreciado. ( -: and not just because it was my idea... ( -; "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Hey! What about a "This Day in GD History" Topic? On the "old" board, I posted links (about everyday) to places where you could listen to shows (streaming and on the legal!). I'd love to do one on a daily basis where I'd put up a link to and about a GD show played that day in history. I just love posting links to music, especially the GD!!! I'm just a, well...porpoise.
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We're actually kinda thinking about implementing something like that, but at this moment have nothing to preannounce...
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What about adding some places to post similar to some of the popular old folders? Not least of which would include: '60s shows '70s shows '80s shows '90s shows and most importantly a Garcia folder!
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how about: food hobbies books movies TV shows other interests stuff like that which is not band/music related but stuff that the community likes to rap about "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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cooking and drink recipes that we all like. think about it...seriously! i think it would probably be the biggest contributed forum. take care! ps - even a cookbook could be made from head's replies. i know i'd buy it!
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It would be nice if there was a location (folder, discussion) JUST for casual conversation. Maybe that could be the area where subscribers are able to post new topics. But first I think "we" need to clarify whether all discussions are designed to last forever, or if some discussions will "roll over" if volume is too high (for instance, a 10,000 message limit, after which the discussion archives and begins again with a new message #1) Or perhaps a time factor - if a discussion has NO messages in a given time (30 days, 3 months, a year) it archives, or disappears completely. I know that people really want to be able to post new topics, but it shouldn't result in what we called "ensuction" over in DNC - when the site became so unwieldy partly because of the huge volume of messages, and huge chunks of the site just started disappearing.
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Folks, really. I don't make this stuff up. There is nothing in the current software that will allow us to create some areas with open topic-creation, and some areas with moderated topic creation. There is no function within the software that will set limits, like X number of topics per day/week/lifetime. And there isn't an automatic roll-over or nukage function. MaryE and I will keep talking about it with the rest of the admin team.
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...shall we go, you and I while we can...Okay, now that I've listed the 168 shows I attended, how about a feature that lists the songs played and the frequency with which I heard them? That weould be kinda cool, don't you think?
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My sugguestion is you need more threads per forum. For instance, in the "I'm Looking For..." forum, if you are not going to allow people to start threads, then at least start a few yourself.. one for "Looking for old Tour Friends, another for looking for a show, looking for misc.. ect. Thank you :) "The bus came by and I got on, that's when it all began.."
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thanks for your comment, Sunnydrop. We didn't set up new topics for a week or so there while we were waiting for things to settle down a little after the initial start up. You'll be seeing new topics popping up this week (check out MaryE's awesome note with the links and all!) and in the future. Please keep the suggestions coming! And be grateful for MaryE's discretion, else there would have been a topic called simply, Pee Songs.
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How about books about the Dead (especially the newest- Grateful Dead Gear) and another just about books-other than Dead related. There are a lot of literate foks here who share many of the same interests and inspirations. I know I am not the only one here who lives in the world of poetry, music, art and nature. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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So you do have a book topic, under Offline. How about making it a little more obvious, please? Thanks. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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...shall we go, you and I while we can... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ROBERT HUNTER!!! It might be a nice idea to open a happy birthday thread for the only member of the band who was never onstage...Bob turns 66 tomorrow! Maybe you've got something in mind already, but it seems appropriate to acknowledge this.With out those words, there would have been no songs!
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Considering we have no way to start new topics and we're limited in what we can post about, it might be time to bid adieu to Dead.net. Nice try, folks :)
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I'm sorry it's making you want to leave, Zoomabooma. If there is something you want to talk about that you don't see a space for here, please just let someone know and we'll try to accomodate you! Hal R - have you found the books area? Dead On and Off the Net: Offline. I'll fire up a topic or two over there for you.
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Izzie,Thanks for starting the book topics and making the subject more visible. How about making the Robert Hunter area a little more visible? For his birthday. Hal Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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...shall we go, you and I while we can... So I read all these really critical posts about no forum topics in the new site. It reminded me that there are essentially two kinds of "Deadheads". First, you got your folks who'll wait in line for three days to get a ticket or get into a general admission venue. Then, you got your folks who crash the gates or elbow thier way to the front of the crowd during the show. The difference is PATIENCE and TOLERANCE! Leave if you want to, but here's a thought...try letting these folks work out some of these issues before you bail...it might be worth your while!
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Under Dead-Related Charities: SEVA Foundation Unbroken Chain Foundation
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I've been opening up the charity topics when the charities themselves have requested it (most of them also have links on the Family pages), and I would be more than delighted to start topics for these folks as well, if they wanted it. My concern is opening one up that the actual folks never visit, so I wait for them to ask. I'd also be happy to pursue it with them if you've got a contact at Seva I should talk to. Or, for that matter, Furthur, Planet Drum, etc. I do know a guy at Unborken Chain and I'm talking to him. Thanks!
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Under Dead Charties section we have a place for Unbroken Chain Foundation!!!!
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being in this environment for 20 plus years i think you need to have an "in dedication" page. we have many sick extended brothers and sisters of this community that need prayers and positive support headed their way. the output of positive energy is tremendous within this community - every bit helps. we've all been witness to it in some form. perhaps some others have already asked for this. i make a motion to start it. the reason is i have a dear friend of mine for several years now - she's 41, and has been on life-support since last wednesday. nobody knows why. the doctors can't do tests because she keeps going into seizures when they stabilize her body. i ask this community to pray for her. take care - chris
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What happened to the politics discussion thread? And Dicks Picks/Vault Releases, for that matter? Also, is Live/Dead now out of print? I didn't see it in the store.
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The short answer is that all the stuff from old dead.net forums is gone. We are trying to get it restored as a read-only archive. If you want to talk about politics, start here: http://www.dead.net/forum/i-turn-channel-six-president-comes-news Releases We'd Like to See http://www.dead.net/forum/top-my-request-list If you want to talk about existing Vault releases, no problem, we'll start a topic! As for Live/Dead being out of print, nope. The Store is very sparsely stocked at the moment and all kinds of stuff isn't there yet. And, while I'm thinking of it, as someone mentioned elsewhere, there are at present no downloads in the Store, but there are plenty at iTunes, if you can use that format.
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Marye, I love the "favorite versions" thread, but I think a good topic would be "essential shows" or "favorite shows" or something along those lines. After all, the Grateful Dead were about the long journey through the nebulous of the entire show, not just one song. The reason I suggest this, is that, even though I've been a Deadhead for almost 20 years, I am only really familiar with historic shows, DP's, and '89-through '95. There are so many knowledgeable heads here who could point the younger heads and newbies toward, say, that killer show from '79 or 81 etc. (Ha ha! isn't weird that after all these years, I still feel like a "touch-head" newbie!?). Perhaps a logical way to break it down would be along decades or eras (the Pigpen era, the Kieth era, the Brent era, etc.) Anyway, thanks for the awesome new site. You guys are truly doing yeoman's work! Yo Soy Boricua!
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I thought we had one of those, but maybe not. I'll go check. Meanwhile, check "If it wasn't your first show," which is about life-changing shows and may give you some avenues to explore.
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before the movie thread gets over-run by tribbles... how about a TV talk section?
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How about a topic - Summer of Love: Where you there? What does it mean for you? Rolling Stone just released an issue about Summer of Love and Guitar Player did an issue featuring the 40 best guitar albums of 1967. It would be interesting to see a conversation here, big influence on us. Peace and Love still Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself,? (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
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you've already greenlighted one of my topics. i think the world of that. lets face it - we all have pets with names that are a part of our lives, especially with the "dead". would it be possible to post a "pets" section? seriously, it would be cute. just think about it....take care chris. i make the motion first for my kitty that's dead now - her name was stella blue.