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    ....my little red rooster crowed thrice... Up and at 'em kids.... Welcome to the working week.... I know it don't thrill you.... I hope it don't kill you.... Well the waitress she brought me some coffee... @Anita....avatar sent to your email
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    Article reads like he single-handedly rescued the bands legacy. I don't know what his connection to the band is other than a columnist who's tin foil hat conspiracy piece went viral, but don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back, dude.
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    Exact scenario here dude, 14 hours of windshield time up and back to FSU for Dad's weekend...saved by channel 23 !! Unforgettable weekend as well to get smashed with your kid on Jack 'n Cokes - legally !! They do grow-up fast, don't they.... Happy, happy Monday to all - make it a great week !!!
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    Whew, back from driving 1,000 miles in less than 48 hours. Fortunately, my trusty rental Kia Optima had Channel 23. Could have gotten the red Camaro or the SUV free upgrade (w/out sat) but how else would I have heard 3 1/2 concerts and Shapiro's letter read a dozen times? Listening to the To Lay Me Down from 7-7-81 and thinking about the FTW shows gave me goose bumps. Anywho, just wanted to say it's good to be back and read the positive vibes for the additional SC shows. I give a lot of credit to the band members--I was pretty critical of them with the Chicago ticketing fiasco, but their letter was very heartfelt and classy. I think they realized they could do better and they did. Kudos, gentlemen! Nice to read all the submissions here. Tough to keep up after an absence but I'm really looking forward to meeting you all in Chitown. Peace.
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    What's the best way do you folx think? Request 2 tickets for each night? Request 3 tickets for each night? Request 4 tickets for each night? My experience is that the only ticket I was able to get for CHI was a single. Money is a consideration for me, so ideally need only ask for 2 or 3 tickets a night, but as agreed, I don't want to miss out on a chance to help a brother out, if need be. I have family here who are interested in joining me for SC, that's why the increased number. There are 3 of us so far. Who knows what cool cats I'll meet down the road who will want to join me on the bus... Tactic intuition family? I am spent from slinging tacos and then celebrating a birthday. It's quiet time in my head. Someone shake the decision makers awake! Lovelove Stella.
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    Squeaky wheel gets the grease? That first article was a real whining piece of journalism. I'm not sure what to make of this. If he admitted he's a fucking whiner and apologized for the first article, well that would be worth reading. 'Some Folks Look for Answers' -- How the Grateful Dead Came to Announce Two Additional 'Fare Thee Well' Shows Posted: 04/10/2015 4:00 pm EDT Updated: 04/10/2015 4:01 pm EDT GRATEFUL DEAD When promoter Peter Shapiro became aware of the article I wrote last month, "Ladies and Gentlemen, Not the Grateful Dead," taking him to task for the way ticket sales were handled for the Grateful Dead's "Fare Thee Well" shows, scheduled for July 3-5 at Chicago's Soldier Field, he had two choices: 1. Write it off as the "butthurt whining" of someone who didn't get tickets (which, just for the record, was not true), or 2. Defend the manner in which ticket sales were conducted, the choice of venue and the way in which these factors served to stimulate the secondary market, causing ticket prices to soar into the thousands. But Shapiro was not satisfied with either of those choices and came up with a third, very Grateful Dead-like option: He got my cell phone number from a mutual friend and called me to talk about the issues I had raised. Shapiro set the tone of the conversation by saying, "I'm a 'head' (referring to the term "Deadhead" that is commonly used among fans of the Grateful Dead), you're a 'head.' I just thought we should honor the spirit of the Grateful Dead and talk." And talk we did, for almost an hour on that occasion, and on numerous other occasions during the ensuing month, leading up to today's announcement that the band will add two shows to the final chapter in their illustrious, 50-year long, strange trip. Over the course of our almost-daily conversations, emails and texts, Peter Shapiro and I maintained a level of respect and professionalism that was truly remarkable as we navigated our way through the complicated topics at hand. As a result, tough issues were addressed, the voices of the many thousands of Deadheads who didn't get tickets to the Chicago shows were heard and a solution was crafted. There were three primary issues that I had raised in my article: the small percentage of tickets that were fulfilled through the initial mail order by Grateful Dead Ticket Sales, the choice of Chicago's Soldier Field as the venue and the selection of Trey Anastasio as the lead guitarist. I made it clear to Shapiro that my concerns about the latter two issues were relatively minor, and only relevant because they resulted in too many true Deadheads being shut out, while stimulating the secondary market, thereby raising ticket prices. One of the most fundamental principles of the Grateful Dead and their fans, expressed in biblical language, has always been this: Thou shalt not sell a ticket to a Grateful Dead concert for more than face value. Critics of my article called me out for failing to accept the way ticket sales are conducted in the present day and age, and mocked my suggestion that all the tickets should have all been sold through the mail order. Peter Shapiro was not one of those critics. Rather, Shapiro came to recognize this as a problem that needed a solution. "Your story, and others -- yours was the biggest one -- made us realize there was a problem," Shapiro commented. "I went to the Grateful Dead ticketing office and saw the (decorated mail order) envelopes; it was painful. We knew people were shut out." So, Shapiro went to work to create a solution. About two weeks after our initial conversation he mentioned to me that he was trying to convince the band to do two shows in California and asked my opinion of that idea. "What would you think about two shows in the Bay Area the weekend before (the Chicago shows)?" To which I replied, "Pete, if you pull that off and sell all of the tickets by mail order, what's happened with the Chicago shows will be quickly forgiven." After weeks of tireless work that ranged from convincing the band to negotiating agreements that enabled the use of an online mail order system, Peter Shapiro and the band have announced today that there will be two additional shows, June 27 and 28 at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, Calif. Most importantly, some 90 percent of the tickets will be sold in true Grateful Dead style, through an innovative online mail order lottery. According to Shapiro, "We will not be using the typical on-sale method. Everybody who enters will have an equal chance to get tickets in a true lottery, and the ability of 'bots' and other online ticket gathering techniques is eliminated." The additional shows were announced on a special edition of Tales from the Golden Road, a radio show on the SiriusXM Grateful Dead Channel, at 3 p.m. EDT today, and the online mail order began immediately with that announcement at Dead50.net, and will continue through 11:59 p.m. on Tuesday. Shapiro read a letter on behalf of the band, which you can read here. In the beloved Grateful Dead song, "Playing in the Band," there is a passage that goes, "Some folks look for answers/Others look for fights." It is tempting to interpret this as extolling the virtues of looking for answers, while pointing out the folly of looking for fights. But it is often the case that we must fight for what we believe is right so that the folks who have the power to provide the answers will be moved to do so. This is known as speaking truth to power. Like so many of the messages in Grateful Dead songs, this principle applies broadly to numerous issues that we deal with in our troubled world -- global warming, our political system, GMOs, fracking, police violence -- and the list goes on and on. In this final chapter of the Grateful Dead, the band's legacy as a vehicle for social justice remains intact. Those of us who took issue with the way so many Deadheads were excluded from the Chicago shows stood up and raised our voices, and Peter Shapiro and the band were forced to look for answers. And the answers they came up with -- two additional shows in the Bay Area, where the band's roots run deepest, and a fair, affordable method of ticketing -- serve to reassure us that the spirit of the Grateful Dead is still alive and well. Follow Stewart Sallo on Twitter: www.twitter.com/StewSallo
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    Forgot to watch/listen to the band. Ugh. Rich - please share again. Is it too late to listen?
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    I liked the old Avatar better too. Couldn't find it in my threads. Would love to repost if you will resend!!
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    I am bidding on SC to trade so SD heads can go to Chicago....if I get tix, and can trade you get tix....or any needy head in our 30+.....Thanks for checking in.....liked the old avatar better kid....
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What's the best way do you folx think? Request 2 tickets for each night? Request 3 tickets for each night? Request 4 tickets for each night? My experience is that the only ticket I was able to get for CHI was a single. Money is a consideration for me, so ideally need only ask for 2 or 3 tickets a night, but as agreed, I don't want to miss out on a chance to help a brother out, if need be. I have family here who are interested in joining me for SC, that's why the increased number. There are 3 of us so far. Who knows what cool cats I'll meet down the road who will want to join me on the bus... Tactic intuition family? I am spent from slinging tacos and then celebrating a birthday. It's quiet time in my head. Someone shake the decision makers awake! Lovelove Stella.
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Whew, back from driving 1,000 miles in less than 48 hours. Fortunately, my trusty rental Kia Optima had Channel 23. Could have gotten the red Camaro or the SUV free upgrade (w/out sat) but how else would I have heard 3 1/2 concerts and Shapiro's letter read a dozen times? Listening to the To Lay Me Down from 7-7-81 and thinking about the FTW shows gave me goose bumps. Anywho, just wanted to say it's good to be back and read the positive vibes for the additional SC shows. I give a lot of credit to the band members--I was pretty critical of them with the Chicago ticketing fiasco, but their letter was very heartfelt and classy. I think they realized they could do better and they did. Kudos, gentlemen! Nice to read all the submissions here. Tough to keep up after an absence but I'm really looking forward to meeting you all in Chitown. Peace.
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Exact scenario here dude, 14 hours of windshield time up and back to FSU for Dad's weekend...saved by channel 23 !! Unforgettable weekend as well to get smashed with your kid on Jack 'n Cokes - legally !! They do grow-up fast, don't they.... Happy, happy Monday to all - make it a great week !!!
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....my little red rooster crowed thrice... Up and at 'em kids.... Welcome to the working week.... I know it don't thrill you.... I hope it don't kill you.... Well the waitress she brought me some coffee... @Anita....avatar sent to your email
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Article reads like he single-handedly rescued the bands legacy. I don't know what his connection to the band is other than a columnist who's tin foil hat conspiracy piece went viral, but don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back, dude.
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Stella, put in for what you need and leave the rest. The way I see things, if everyone scored one extra ticket for every seat needed, one- half of folks seeking tickets will get denied in the lotto. Better than in the hands of scalpers, but still...
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I agree with totes, whether you want one or 3 chances are the same... good luck and can I have extra hot sauce on mine.... Have a good day....
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I checked out the Kings website and videos. Good stuff. Savannah sure keeps herself front and center with those selfies. I forgot how fun the Buffalo scene is or was!
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Yes she likes herself a lot but can't deny the talent...too bad your not closer or I'd get you on the guest list for this Friday's CD release party....
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Check your e-mails, SD'ers.....VERY IMPORTANT (if applicable) message that needs a reply by 3pm CDT today. Thanks one and all !! ps - thanks, Totes, I got'em and smoking 'em and bringing 'em to Chi-Town :-)
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I was so glad that the statement was released Friday. It seemed to quickly reaffirm faith in the band for some folks. I never really could blame the band. Their function is to facilitate the magic on the stage. But I'm not making the connection that Shapiro is more a part of this than he is a part of the marketing process. Maybe I just haven't noticed him side stage providing amazing air guitar licks that take the music to the next level. This statement and some others give the impression he really is playing in the band. "From the moment these shows were first talked about, we have considered ways to honor the roots of our Deadhead experience, even in the face of changing technologies. Remember, Ticketmaster didn’t even go on-line until we got out of the game." Every one despises Snydley (aka Ticketmaster). It's easy to blame it all on him, and he knows being the villain is his job. Like it or not he is here to stay. In the words of the masterful Willie J. Clinton, it depends on what the meaning of is is. But just remember this Pete, if you point a Willie at Snydley you'll have five Willies pointing right back at you.
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As an eastcoaster I am unable to attend the SC shows, and having been shut out of Chi town (so far) I am wondering if any SDers that are on the westcoast, would be up for a trade if I get SC tix? I am happy to get in the lotto just to be able to help someone out for face, however I would like to arrange an equitable trade, my question, is any one interested in such a trade? Thanks, and pass that coffee....
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A lot of us are thinking that....gotta see supply and demand though first.... You like it black or with cream and sugar? Fresh pot....
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no sugar Freudian slip on that typo, Chit town ok i'll get in lotto, I don't know but it looks like if you want taper tix, that is the only thing you can request, no way to get other tix if tapers sold out. can any one confirm?
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no sugar Freudian slip on that typo, Chit town ok i'll get in lotto, I don't know but it looks like if you want taper tix, that is the only thing you can request, no way to get other tix if tapers sold out. can any one confirm?
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I'm so glad, I'm so glad, I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad.... Would you like it served in a white room? With black curtains? Rock on Boo boo
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That's exactly what I did... I'm not going to SC but put myself in the lotto - option one, both nights to help out our Cally heads (or anyone wanting to make the trip for those shows). Chi-Town ticket barter always welcomed also. Have to say I'm way alarmed there are still tons of CID options left and a TM pre-sale happening. Either word has not hit the street like the Chicago build-up, or, demand is no where near what we all might have thought. Or, Cally is just being Cally and they're still in first gear :-)
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it is kind of suprising, given the Chi town frenzy, I'd hate to lay out for SC tix and nobody wants them or wants to trade, I'm still hopeful this will make Chi tix easier to come by
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Yup I misjudged the demand....well I got a plane ride and I'm sure I could find a cardboard box for a few night...might have to road trip... If I get lucky
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Well, I'm invested again another $1K so let's see what happens....
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...for sure. This may strike a raw nerve but from my perspective if you're buying them to barter or for any purpose but for going to the show you're using them as a currency of one form or another. And now you have some uncomfortable overlap with scalpers. I'm not suggesting by any stretch it's evil like selling no-view seats for $1K. But still...
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Santa Clara will sell out. I'm not sure what is up with CID ticket sales, but attitude toward the shows and hype not being that as it is for Chicago be factor. I predict Chicago tickets might even be more highly sought once these show dates hit. Don't wait too long to pull the trigger for Chicago. I think it was DWC that predicts mid June as the sweet spot. I think he's right.
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Might as well, might as well..... I guess Dorothy the meek is in....so at least I will know someone there... Actually I have a long lost cousin in SF....time to reacquaint myself with da man.... #88 thanks for flipping the switch to that dim light in my head.... SC may be foreplay...but there's nothing wrong with that?
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Hope so.... Lot scene in Cali is soooo different than east or Midwest....
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I hope demand is soft. I want tickets. I want to go. If you get lucky - enjoy the show(s)!
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That would be quite above average my man....
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And yes rrrgrrr. I have a new hotsauce my friend drove back from Mexico special for me. Plenty to go around. Flavor so good - it'll burn you tongue then make it sparkle.
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You request the two. If you are selected, but the taper tix are sold out, you then are up for two tickets from any price tier. xo
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If we all get our ticket requests filled for SC, come to me. I have family in Hawaii, and up and down the west coast and in CO I could reach out to from across the decades to see if they want to take a little trip to California. I for sure know someone in Hawaii who was all shut out of CHI who is hoping for SC. Lovelove.
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I only need 1 for Cali...if I go.... point taken....
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thx, they almost make it sound like you are shut out if no tapers are left, but reading all the way to the end indicates you are correct
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Hey guys n gals it's Dire's Birthday.... Let's all sing.... Happ.......
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Happ... (ps - Stella - email me your 1st and 2nd nite one, 1st song guesses - figured I'd try to get your attention here) :-) Now someone else continue the G-Man B-Day song please !!
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Tony sent you a second email. Thanks for the nudge. I may have to amend. My head is in taxland. Hey anyone going to the movies on May 4? Trying to decide which theater to hit up... peaces.
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santa anita or possibly the imax in aliso viejo. not sure yet. i'd like to hear other suggestions.
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East coast showing at Regal Cinemas Lancaster ny...imax, my treat.... Klang you got the back 40.....
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Py birthday to youuu ...and may all your seats be floors! The good ones with the short guy in front of you.
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hey the band is for real- which one is your kid? guitar or bass? thanks for the offer a but a 5000 mile round trip to see a movie would be the last straw and i would be involuntarily committed post haste.
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I wish her the best....not my choice....too much slick Willie baggage...but he blows a mean sax.... Women got the man like a puppet show....it aint me its the people that say...men are leading the women astray, I say the women today...smarter than the man in everyway... if interested have a show 4/09/82 Rochester.....yours for the asking....smokin" first song set 2....Let us put men and women together....with Jerry pickin and a grinning.... I was lost in the ozone again!!!! Found myself next day on floor of apt in Buffalo, in hallway sleeping in drool... think Bobby pulled out Satisfaction...shadoobie... Best show I don't remember...
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Lovin me some Donna Jean... btw that wasn't me it was Sgt. Pupper loves sirens and Donna...
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Ok yes please and thank you for offer of the show. Fix me up.
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Tomorrow as will the show....don't cheat and pre read the set list.... Second set Bobby spit on us during the conclusion...accidental but when you hear the end of the second set where he lets his guttural scream loose..... And women aren't necessarily smarter they just use their smarts better
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Get her signed up and send her out a fruit basket. What's for dinner? THorse is standing in the corner due to a disciplinary time-out. Don't You Mess With My Toot Toot!!!!