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    Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

    Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

    (We're changing some things for 2009)

    BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

    MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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    reseeding topic
    On further thought, I think a reseeding topic would be fine. If no one offered to reseed a vine there, a pmail could be sent with a request for a reseed to one of the folks who already got the vine. To those who have been discussing this, thanks for thinking about this stuff and furthering the cause of keeping the vines running smoothly. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    why I suggest a new topic is because most people, or at least I dont go through vine topics that i have already received and passed on. As a result, I have no idea that a vine which I already received has stalled. How am I supposed to offer to re-seed if i am not aware a vine has stalled? I suppose a pm system might work, but I don't see the harm in a separate topic asking for re-seeds. We can also post in the specific vine topic as well. A central re-seed request topic is something we can all check periodically. If I see a vine that I have, I can offer to re-seed without me continually checking each and every vine topic. We can post our offer to re-seed in the actual vine topic, as well. My opinion is to give it a shot and see if it works. However, if the community is against it, it is no big deal. I just think it will make it easier to re-seed without having to visit every topic. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I like your suggestion Pomo1
    But if we could modify #3 to what Hal is suggesting, we'll be set. Lets keep a re-seeded vine on the original thread to keep all the info in one place. Next - how do we deal with folks who cannot be reached, so they get skipped but then they show back up and want the vine that skipped them? If you have to skip someone, move their name to the bottom of the list, or to the next in line on the list? I suppose this could remain flexible but if you get skipped, you should be able to still get the vine eventually I just don't know if it is fair to have to wait until the end of the list. But that would be the easiest solution. Or the person just has to sign back up again... Then again maybe I'm making too big a deal about it?? Just thought I'd throw that out there since we are on the topic... Have a grate weekend everyone and happy vining! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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    reseeding vines topic - I am not sure if this is best as its own topic or not. After all if you already have a vine, you might not be looking through the reseed topic. I have reseeded several and the way I did it was by getting a pmail with a request for a reseed. It seems to work that way and also by posting on that vine's specific topic, thread. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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    Consensus?
    1. FLAC is the preferred format, but ultimately it is up to the seeder. As in the past, people should feel free to request that someone create audio cds from a FLAC vine, and it is up to fellow viners to choose to do so. 2. Re-vining an occassional show is not prohibited, provided there is at least some justification for doing so, such as the show fits within the theme of the new vine or it is a quality upgrade. 3. There will be a separate topic for requests regarding re-seeding a stalled vine. Before re-seeding, all reasonable efforts should be made to get the vine moving. "One watch by night, one watch by day If you get confused, listen to the music play"
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    I am not against flac. Flac all you want. In fact, I have gotten a few flac vines by accident. I thought they were CD vines. I burned them to a DVD for storage and "future" use. I just don't want to see all vines go flac--that's all.
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    Well Said Birdsong!
    I prefer flac because it ultimately puts less strain on my burner, but if my only option is burning a few cds for a show that I want, then so be it. I like flac for the quality, and for the reason I just stated. A 20 cd vine in the end, ends up being 40 cds once i get done uploading them to iTunes and then burning them, but I still love my CDS and until I get a transmitter that broadcasts my iTunes library through my stereo receiver then CDs are what I am stuck with it. Any way to listen to the Dead is better than no way!!
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    Its great to be a part of this !
    Derek, I really enjoyed your diatribe - it was quite constructive - and from the last couple of days I'm glad to see we still have a pulse out here...Y'all rock! I am a big fan of FLAC over WAV. FLAC are ridicuilously easy to manipulate with Traders's Little Helper and you can even play them back with foobar 2000 which you can get here: www.foobar2000.org Anyone who needs help using FLAC format I'm willing to work with you - PM me. As for vine duplication, it is getting harder to avoid, and in cases where only a WAV version previously circulated, FLAC would be an upgrade. Not to say that there aren't plenty of other ways to download these. And FLAC definitely takes up less space. Cosmic, what size hardhat do you wear? I am always game to reseed anything I've touched. Lonestar, thanks for doing some sleuthing - I'll reseed the 1st Anniversary Vine. I think a reasonable vine turnaround is 3-4 days with the ocassional week here and there. I'm certainly guilty of being slow now and then or failing to remember to post. But, I will never fail to answer a PM nor will I be offended if I am called on a slow turnaround - we all have the same goal - spread the music. Peace brothers and sisters! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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    Flac you! Or Compression vs. MP3/Wav
    My thought process during these Vineyard "meetings of the minds" with a lot of different opinions is; I try to put myself in that makeshift Sausalito office with unmatching squeaky chairs in a band meeting, and think - "What would Jerry say"? In my imagination of course it would go something like this: (He lights a Camel)" Listen Man, who gives a shit? If Joe-Blow (no pun intended) has a machine from the fucking "Enterprise" that will compress musical notes into macromolecules so be it. Let him flac away. If Joe-Snow (pun intended) has the original boom box from the Fat Albert show that just plays plain old CD's, well he should be able to listen to the same stuff as Blow. I don't care about the music once it leaves our stacks, but they do, so it should be made available to all." I share Jerry's opinion. Some of the community is not Flac compatible. They should not be told what they can and what they cannot get off this forum. On the other hand people that are compression friendly have the choice to sign up for a vine that is not compressed. Something Iknowurider said struck me. She said " I have a good many shows that leave a lot to be desired concerning sound quality, but over the years I guess I've felt/heard them so much that I don't even notice. UNTIL I get the primo stuff, whoo hoo!!!" I can relate. The primo stuff is UN-REAL. It is the quality I dreamed of when I had my quite large collection of scratchy fucked up cassettes. I listened to a choice few (Freedom Hall 74' I would rewind Eyes of the World over and over and over, Barton Hall 77', and Starlight Amphitheatre 85') until they were so stretched out Jerry sounded like a frog on helium or they had some form of liquid spilled and spent too many hours on a 120 degree dashboard that they would just seize up and I would be pulling spools of tape out of my Alpine! Point is, then IT DID NOT MATTER! I have never been one to like light cigarettes (quit two years ago!), light beer, or any kind of stepped on watered down shit! When I heard my first couple of compressed soundboards of shows that I had listened too a million times I WAS HOOKED! I am not a "techy" but I am figuring out how to make Flac work for me because I love the quality. That's my choice. Exploratory Data does not want to spend the time and neither does his machine. That's his choice. This community should make a pact to provide the music for anyone who has the capability to so in any modern (no LP's, 45's, 8-Tracks or cassettes please!) format. I think the reality is, it will always be up to the seeder to decide how she, or he is going to vine the show. If she or he decides to seed just a compressed version in my experience there will always be some cool person that will convert them and add the MP3's to the vine if there is a request. (These opinions of "what would Jerry say" are purely from my warped Lysergic infused brain and are not meant to make anyone think I am a totally psycho dude who thinks he's Jerry). "Say you'll come back when you can Whenever your airplane happens to land Maybe I'll be back here too It all depends on what's with you."
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    I perfer audio Wav or MP3 files. I don't have time for flac files, and it takes 1 hour to unflac/unpak 1 show on my computer. I don't have an ipod, itunes or iphone or any other "i" device. So, before the pro-Flac vigilantes take over, let me say, keep the audio CDs a coming--especially for 3 or less shows in a vine.
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Was a student there at the time. Saw the JGB in Campbell Hall (76?),With collaboration from various kind folks in the Dead.net vining community, our own erickat prepared this handy guide explaining how vining works hereabouts. Many thanks to all involved, and vine on! --

Dead.Net Vines - What It Is & How It Works

(We're changing some things for 2009)

BACKGROUND: The concept of a "vine" is music sharing through conventional means (e.g. mailing cd's or dvd's) with the sign-up list being on-line. The basic idea is that someone starts (seeds) a vine, made up of one or multiple shows,and sends it via mail to the first person who signs up. That person makes a copy for themselves and sends the ORIGINAL media on to the next person on the list. As more people sign up, it continues to grow and grow - hence the name "vine".

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: Make sure you can deal with the media format. Many vines are

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Submitted by boise83 on Mon, 02/23/2009 - 21:17

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Being that I just started collecting I don't have any of these shows but I would love to contribute. I can donate blank disks to whoever would be willing to burn them for that certain *somebody*. Let me know whether you need DVD or CD and how many and I will send them your way.
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Submitted by pomo1 on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 07:11

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going to see the Dead at either MSG or Nassau Coliseum? I would love to meet up. Sorry, Mary, this probably doesn't belong here, but I didn't know where else to post. Oh wait, I will be posting a new vine soon from Lopezz's Little Bit of Everything Vine, which came today. The "Little Bit of Jerry Vine" more info to follow. OK, problem solved. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 07:32

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You could post this on Meet the Viners topic. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by pomo1 on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 09:30

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I'll post there also. "Let there be songs to fill the air."
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Submitted by erickat on Wed, 02/25/2009 - 20:43

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by Cellar Door Productions - broadcast over WHFS on 3/28/79Michael Franks & Friends - jaz / fusion stuff My sister recorded this off the radio & I've had it for going on 30 years now - some very interesting stuff. Not completely sure of the names of all the songs - a single Audio CD, so it's just an itty bitty vine - but a change of pace from the Dead we've been doing for so long.
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Submitted by Lopezz on Thu, 02/26/2009 - 11:15

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You dont see a lot of MTB around, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to put some out there. Marshall Tucker Band - Orpheum Theatre, Boston, MA 3-12-76 SBD Disc 1 01. Hillbilly Band 02. Long Hard Ride 03. Blue Ridge Mountain Skies (Doug vocals) 04. Searchin' For A Rainbow 05. Can't You See 06. Bound & Determined 07. Fire On The Mountain 08. Take The Highway 09. 24 Hours At A Time 10. This Ol' Cowboy (Toy vocals) 11. Crowd Marshall Tucker Band - Albuquerque, New Mexico 1-19-79 Soundboard recording, not the best, a little muddy sometimes, but really good. Disc 1 1. Fly Like An Eagle 2. Long Hard Ride 3. Heard It In A Love Song * 4. Dream Lover 5. Blue Ridge Mountain Skies 6. Hillbilly Band 7. Can't You See 8. I'll Be Lovin' You 9. Fire On The Mountain Disc 2 1. Ramblin' On My Mind (some wow & flutter at the beginning) 2. 24 Hours At A Time 3. This Ol Cowboy (Doug vocals) 4. Desert Skies 5. Searchin' For A Rainbow
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Submitted by Hal R on Thu, 02/26/2009 - 19:11

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hey folks, I have been completely swamped by work, putting in all my time there and also taking care of a friend's farm while he is gone and have not had a chance to address the many vines that arrived here this week. I will go at it this weekend and update but just wanted everyone to know that they will be getting out as soon as I have some free space in life. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by pomo1 on Sat, 02/28/2009 - 11:45

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Started by Pomo1 (sort of). These are four JGB shows taken from Lopezz's Little Bit of Everything Vine and converted to 7 Audio CDs. There are some quality issues, a song or two missing and some gaps. But, it is "Cats Down Under the Stars Jerry" and well worth having.Please do not sign up until Mary gives this its own topic. Jerry Garcia Band 3-12-78 Suffolk Forum, Commack, NY Source: FOB Shure Audience > Cassette Master > DAT > CD ** May Contain Additional Analog Generation(s) Set 1 1. Harder They Come 2. Mission In The Rain 3. Simple Twist Of Fate 4. Tore Up Over You 5. Gommorah 6. Mystery Train ** Disc 2, Set 2+E 1. Love In The Afternoon 2. Second That Emotion 3. Russian Lullaby 4. They Love Each Other 5. I'll Be With Thee 6. Midnight Moonlight 7. (E) Rhapsody in Red Jerry Garcia Band 3/18/78 (LATE SHOW) Warner Music Theatre Hall Washington, DC Lineage: SBD > PRE-FM RTR > CASS (Dolby B encoded) > SSSB (Dolby B decoded) Disc 1 The Harder They Come Mission In The Rain -> Simple Twist Of Fate Midnight Moonlight Gomorrah Disc 2 Cats Under The Stars I'll Be With Thee Lonesome And A Long Way From Home -> Space > Lonesome Jam -> Lonesome And A Long Way From Home ENCORE: Palm Sunday Jerry Garcia Band Keystone Berkeley, CA 10/10/1978 Source: SBD>MC>DAT>CDR>EAC>WAV>SHN Set 1* 1. //They Love Each Other 2. That's What Love Will Make You Do 3. Simple Twist Of Fate 4. How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) *Set 2* 5. Harder They Come 6. Mission In The Rain// (missing) It's Too Late (missing) Gomorrah (missing) Rhapsody In Red Jerry Garcia Band Paramount Theatre Portland, OR 10/26/78 Source: MAC>CD>EAC>WAV>CE2k (retracking, glitch removal)>SHN *Disc 1**Set 1* 1. The Harder They Come 2. Mission In The Rain 3. Simple Twist Of Fate 4. They Love Each Other 5. It's No Use 6. Mystery Train *Disc 2*Set 2* 1. Love In The Afternoon 2. Reuben & Cherise 3. Tore Up 4. Gomorrah 5. I'll Be With Thee 6. Lonesome And A Long Way From Home
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Submitted by Oroboros on Sun, 03/01/2009 - 10:09

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I was stumbling around and found thishttp://www.loathemegacorp.com/deadpieshop/ which has some inserts for shows that are being vined. I had gotten into a habit of making them lately, but these are ready-made and will burn through your printer ink, BUT if you are interested there is a source to utilize. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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Submitted by Ltapilot on Sun, 03/01/2009 - 11:14

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Here are a few more places to gather home made album art.Like Oroboros said, this will eat up your printer ink but it does look real nice when you are done.

GDEAD CoverArts Supply Depot pictures by RainboWaldo - Photobucket:

Pictures by Aldo2Bordeaux - Photobucket:

Em's Grateful Dead CD Covers:

For Eyes Only Digital Design Studio• Houston, TX

GRATEFUL DEAD & other LIVE MUSIC Cover Designs

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Grateful Dead

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Peace Rick
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Submitted by Ltapilot on Mon, 03/02/2009 - 16:31

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Nice finds, Ericat. Thank-you!I am in constant awe of the love and talent, people are willing to give to our music. Eleven separate pages for album art. Who would have thought there was such a bounty! Peace Rick
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Submitted by Lopezz on Tue, 03/03/2009 - 16:58

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This tape circulates labled "LOM Mystery Tape". These songs are from the winteror spring of '74, before Martin Fierro became a fulltime member. Supposedly found in a vault unlabled by Dick Latvala. It is doubtful that all these songs are from the same show. One thing is certain, these are crystal clear recordings of some great Legion of Mary songs! This tape also circulates under the name " Dicks Gift". Disc 1 Unknown Venue 1. Finders Keepers (10:12) 2. Think (9:12) 3. Lala (11:34) 4. I Second That Emotion (14:31) 5. My Funny Valentine (23:59) Disc 2 Unknown Venue 1. Jam > (2:56) 2. Jam > (11:57) 3. Are You Lonely For Me Baby? > (11:37) 4. After Midnight (8:12) These will be audio cds and I will include flac files for those who use them.
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 16:52

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Hi folks, I have been working on this one for a while and I finally have some great sources to get this vine planted. 1985, as my brother in Vineland Richard put it " it seems to me that every night the band came out swinging for the bleachers." I also believe there were no strikeouts between 6-14-85 and 7-2-85. I am partial to this period, year, and even tour because it was when I got on the bus. I would like to propose an Early Summer 85' Vine that will be the complete run from 6-14 to 7-2, 1985. As I said, I have sourced most of these shows. They will be low generation high quality audiences for most all the shows I have recorded by the same person. I will reveal sources when I can put together a few final pieces. I have or will have very soon have: 6-14-85 Greek 6-15-85 Greek 6-16-85 Greek 6-25-85 Blossom 6-27-85 Spac 6-28-85 Hersey 6-30-85 Merriweather (Already Vined) 7-1-85 Merriweather ( Already Vined) 7-2-85 Pittsburgh Civic I need some help to make it complete: 6-21-85 Alpine 6-22-85 Alpine 6-24-85 Riverbend I would love to send this out as a complete run if possible. I will do this in 3 parts as I will get these decoded from flac into audio for a user friendly vine. Thanks-geoff
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Wed, 03/04/2009 - 20:42

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the Early Summer 1985 Vine will soon be seeded. -----If you wanna leave your troubles behind, you don't have to ask If you wanna go away and lose your mind, you don't have to ask If it's peace that you're looking for You got the key to every door, you already know---------
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 15:23

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when you've got the whole thing ready to go...
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Submitted by Lopezz on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 17:59

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This will be in shn/flac format. Dvds (4...maybe more) 01/15/73 Inn Of The Beginning - Cotati, Ca 01/24/73 The Boarding House - San Fran., CA 01/25/73 The Boarding House - San Fran., CA 03/07/73 Keystone - Berkeley, CA 05/04/73 Homer’s Warehouse - Palo Alto, CA 05/05/73 Homer’s Warehouse - Palo Alto, CA 05/23/73 The Ash Grove - Santa Monica, CA 07/05/73 The Lion’s Share - San Anselmo, CA 07/08/73 The Record Plant - Sausalito CA 07/10/73 Keystone - Berkeley, CA 07/11/73 Keystone - Berkeley, CA 07/19/73 Great American Music Hall - San Francisco, CA 09/05/73 SS Bay Belle - New York, NY(New York City Harbor) 09/06/73 Capitol Theater - Passaic, NJ 10/02/73 Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
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Submitted by marye on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 18:53

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sob! a great venue, not there any more. I'll get this started in the morning.
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Thu, 03/05/2009 - 20:55

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I thought that I would put some more early stuff out there. Some of these shows are partial recordings, and 9/4/67 is on a few minutes long, but they are still worth having. Hopefully it won’t take me as long to get this one sent out. This is going to be 4 audio disc’s. Disc 1 Grateful Dead 03/25/66 Troupers Hall Los Angeles, CA Stealin' [#1:37] Jam [7:41] Hey Little One [4:46] Hog For You Baby [2:49] You Don't Have To Ask [5:56] Cold Rain And Snow [3:24] Next Time You See Me [2:30#] S:MR>DAT>ZA2>CD Disc 2 Grateful Dead 06/18/67 Monterey Pop Festival, Fairgrounds Monterey, CA SBD> MR> ? > DAT x 2> Sonic Solutions> cd note: There seems to be no cassette generation between the MR and DAT, which is present on the previously circulated version of this show. Remastered by “Mandrake” 1. Viola Lee Blues 14:07 2. "The Beatles aren't here"* 2:16 3. Cold Rain and Snow 3:27 4. Alligator> 8:08 5. Caution (Do Not Stop on Tracks) 11:42 Grateful Dead 09/04/1967 Dance Hall Rio Nido CA SBD:MR>Cas>DAT>CD 6. Caution> 7. Feedback A short tape. This is all that exists. Please spread this around as it is not easy to find. Disc 3 Grateful Dead - February 2, 1968 Crystal Ballroom - Portland, OR Recording Info: SBD -> (4 Track) Master Reels -> Dat (44.1k) Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.2 -> FLAC (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 9, 2009 Notes: -- Thanks to Rob Eaton for the Dat -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction Setlist: d1t01 - Viola Lee Blues d1t02 - That's It For The Other One -> d1t03 - Clementine -> d1t04 - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl// Disc 4 Grateful Dead - February 3, 1968 Crystal Ballroom - Portland, OR Recording Info: SBD -> (4 Track) Master Reels -> Dat (44.1k) Transfer Info: Dat (Sony R500) -> Sound Devices 744T -> Adobe Audition v1.5 -> Samplitude Professional v10.2 -> FLAC (1 Disc Audio / 1 Disc FLAC) All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller charliemiller87@earthlink.net February 9, 2009 Notes: -- First few notes of It Hurts Me Too are cut -- Spanish Jam tease after Born Cross-Eyed -- Thanks to Rob Eaton for the Dat -- Thanks to Joe B. Jones for his help with the pitch correction Setlist: d1t01 - That's It For The Other One -> d1t02 - New Potato Caboose d1t03 - It Hurts Me Too d1t04 - Born Cross-Eyed d1t05 - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl d1t06 - Dark Star -> d1t07 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t08 - The Eleven "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Fri, 03/06/2009 - 05:30

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I want this vine. I really like the majority of '85 shows I have heard. The '85 vines here (Fox and Merriweather) are super hot shows. That said, '85 was also the "Kermit the Frog" year for Jerry. I have a cassette taped version of The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (4/8/85), and Jerry sounds really bad vocally--like Kermit the Frog. I will be on the lookout for this vine.
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Submitted by Lopezz on Fri, 03/06/2009 - 08:51

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I realize this may get shot down. If it does,no worries. Mydland recorded and mastered a solo album, but it was never released. Intended for this album were "Tons Of Steel with Monty Byron on guitar, "Maybe You Know , "Nobody's", "Long Way To Go", and "Dreams". Possibly the sessions discussed with Betty Cantor-Jackson in "The DeadHeads Taping Compendium Vol 2" SBD>C>CDR>EAC>SHN 1. Inlay It In Your Heart 2. Tons Of Steel 3. Dreams 4. Maybe You Know 5. Nobody's 6. See The Other Side 7. Long Way To Go 8. Take One This will be one audio cd, PM me if you want the shn files. I am not really a Brent fan but I thought some of you might dig it.
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Fri, 03/06/2009 - 09:13

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You will in fact have this vine in about a week. Love that East Coast Spring Tour as well! I agree with Kermit. Jerry was not in great health in 85. I remember seeing him close up on stage for the first time in on the fall tour and I was like" how can that man play and sing because he looks as though he's about to keel over! He usually managed to pull it off....for some reason, I don't think it was just all the Ben and Jerry's.......His voice might have been rough, but he slayed nightly with "The Tiger". His guitar was unreal.....that was probably due to the Ben and Jerry's ;0} -----If you wanna leave your troubles behind, you don't have to ask If you wanna go away and lose your mind, you don't have to ask If it's peace that you're looking for You got the key to every door, you already know---------
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 03/06/2009 - 10:28

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Lopezz, I'm a Brent fan to the core but I need to do a little poking around to see what the status of this album is. Let me look into this a bit. What I'd personally love to see at some point is the SEVA benefit shortly before Brent's death at which he did what I think is the only performance of "Love Doesn't Have to Be Pretty." From a Brent standpoint it was a darn harrowing show, but unforgettable also. As for the rest, I'll have 'em up shortly.
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Submitted by UncleJon on Sat, 03/07/2009 - 08:13

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I'm thinking it would be fun to travel through time with Slowhand and visit most all of his different incarnations through the years...almost 40 years. This would be a shn/flac only vine on DVDs: John Mayall's Blues Breakers 2-9-1966 London, England BBC Studios SBD Blind Faith 7-12-1969 New York, NY MSG AUD Blind Faith 8-26-1969 Los Angeles CA Unknown venue FM/SBD Derek & The Dominoes10-16-1970 Philadelphia, PA AUD Clapton 1-13-1973 London, England Rainbow Theatre SBD Clapton 7-7-1974 Jersey City, NJ Roosevelt Stadium SBD Clapton 4-20-1975 Sydney, Australia Hordern Pavilion SBD Clapton 11-12-1976San Antonio, TX Convention Center SBD Clapton 11-6-1977 Leiden, Netherlands Groenoordhall Clapton 3-24-1978 Charlotte, NC Memorial Coliseum SBD Clapton 11-26-1979Kyoto, Japan Kyoto Kaikan Daiichi Hall AUD Clapton 7-10-1983 Milwaukee, WI Milwaukee Festival SBD Clapton 10-11-1985Fukuoka, Japan SBD Clapton 7-4-1986 Roskilde, Denmark Roskilde Festival SBD Clapton 7-9-1986 Montreux Jazz Festival VIDEO Clapton 4-14-1987 Los Angeles CA The Forum SBD Clapton 1-25-1988 London, England Royal Albert Hall Clapton 2-9-1990 Royal Albert Hall VIDEO Clapton 11-7-1994 San Francisco, CA Fillmore West SBD Clapton 7-11-1997 Den Haag, Netherlands Statenhal SBD Clapton 4-9-1998 Chicago, IL United Center SBD Clapton 9-11-1998 Edmonton, Canada Edmonton Coliseum SBD Clapton 5-21-2001 Atlanta, GA Philip Arena SBD Clapton 11-17-2003Hiroshima, Japan Green Arena AUD Clapton 5-16-2006 London, England Royal Albert Hall Clapton Studio Outtakes SBD Clapton + Friends SRV Tribute 5-12-1995 Austin, TX Music Hall Cream 10-4-1968 Oakland, CA Alameda County Coliseum Arena SBD Cream Remasters Part 1 Cream Remasters Part 2 Sorry for the messy formatting on the list...Not sure how many DVDs this would be, probably 7 or 8. Many of these claim to be SBD but they may just be very high quality AUD. BUt, the majority are very very listenable. There are a few that the source is flat out unknown. Only band I don't have represented here that I wish I did is the Yardbirds. Not sure anyone has any Casey Jones and the Engineer's or The Roosters material either. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 20:22

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Hi! My new friend Greg McFarlane in Scotland has offered to send this over for us. Yay Greg! Neil & Crazy Horse 2001 Eurotour Compilation / 01 Don't Cry No Tears (Oerhausen 23/6) 02 I've Been Waiting For You (Munich 27/6) 03 Love and Only Love (Frankfurt 20/6) 04 Piece Of Crap ( Oberhausen 23/6) 05 Going Home (Munich 27/6 2nd performance) 06 Hold You In My Arms (Stockholm 03/7) 07 Don't Say You Love Me (Montreaux 10/7) 08 From Hank To Hendrix (Paris 24/6) 09 Don't Let It Bring You Down (Paris 24/6) 10 Pocahontas (Frankfurt 20/6) 11 After The Goldrush (Roskilde 29/6) 12 Only Love Can Break Your Heart (Glasgow 10/6) // 13 Standing In The Light Of Love (Berlin 26/6) 14 Gateway Of Love (Ghent 18/6) 15 Hey Hey, My My (Munich 27/6) 16 Sedan Delivery (London 16/6) 17 Opera Star (Rotterdam 21/6) 18 Rockin' In The Free World (Lucca 21/7) 19 The Losing End (Oslo 04/7) 20 Like A Hurricane (Erfurt 07/7) /// 21 Out On The Weekend (Rotterdam 24/7) 22 The Needle And The Damage Done (Naeba 28/7) - MISSING, BANNED FOR DIME 23 Lon May You Run (Lucca 21/7) 24 Cinnamon Girl (Sheffield 09/6) 25 Fucked Up/Fuckin Up (Birmingham 15/6) 26 Tonight's The Night (Erfurt 07/7) 27 Welfare Mothers (Vienne 17/7) 28 Down By The River (Lorrach 22/7) 29 Roll Another Number (Lucca 21/7) //// 30 C'mon Baby Let's Go Downtown (Rotterdam 24/7) 31 Going Home #2 (Erfurt 07/7) 32 Cortez The Killer (Rotterdam 21/6) 33 Powderfinger (Montreaux 10/7) 34 Greensleves/Thanks For Coming (Montreaux 10/7) It'll probably be a couple of weeks or longer before it gets here, and I don't have any of the recording details. Let you know when I find out. Cheers, MarkintheDark ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Sun, 03/08/2009 - 20:25

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Hi! Bigger Bit of Talking Heads CD Vine Shows from Lopezz's Little Bit of Everything Vine & the Elton John Tokyo Bootleg Vine plus a few shows I was slipped under the vine. CDs only. Thanks to all the original seeders. Enjoy! Talking Heads boot: "Sharp Objects" December 3, 1977 Old Waldorf Theatre, San Francisco, CA. SBD/Pre-FM > DAT > CDR>EAC>WAV>flac 01. Uh-Oh, Love Comes to Town 02. ... With Our Love 03. The Book I Read 04. Artists Only 05. Stay Hungry 06. The Big Country 07. New Feeling 08. Thank You For Sending Me an Angel 09. Who Is It 10. Psycho Killer 11. No Compassion 12. No compassion (reprise) 13. 1, 2, 3, stoplight ************************************* Talking Heads 8/8/79 Berkelee Performance Center, Boston MA Source: sbd>eac>shn 01. Artists Only 6:09 02. Stay Hungry 3:37 03. Cities 5:08 04. Paper 2:39 05. Mind 5:16 06. Heaven 4:24 07. The Book I Read 5:34 08. Electric Guitar 3:06 09. Air 4:05 10. Warning Sign 5:03 11. Buildings Of Fire 3:47 12. Memories Can't Wait 3:02 13. Psycho Killer 7:44 14. Life During Wartime 4:10 15. Take Me To The River 5:57 ************************************* Talking Heads August 24 1979 Berklee Performance Center, Boston MA 01 intro 0:21.22 02 Artists Only 5:46.57 03 Stay Hungry 3:38.29 04 Cities 5:10.21 05 Paper 2:40.00 06 Mind 5:21.67 07 Heaven 4:26.09 08 The Book I Read 5:37.06 09 Electric Guitar 3:09.57 10 Air 4:07.62 11 Warning Sign 5:18.67 12 Building On Fire 3:49.38 13 Memories Can't Wait 3:52.63 14 Psycho Killer 7:03.15 15 Life During Wartime 4:13.65 16 Take Me To The River 5:33.25 17 outro 0:29.08 total running time 70:40.11 SBD > WBCN Pre-FM reel > DAT @ 48 kHz > WAV > FLAC Number of reel and DAT generations unknown. ((MarkintheDark note: this show was broadcast on the King Biscuit Flower Hour, info and excerpts can be found at Wolfgang's Vault.)) ************************************************** TALKING HEADS DECEMBER 15TH 1980. PALALIDO, MILANO, ITALY Disc One : 1. Psycho Killer > 2. Psycho Killer end jam 3. Warning Sign 4. Stay Hungry 5. Cities 6. I Zimbra 7. Drugs 8. Once In A Lifetime 9. Animals (applauses fades out due to turn the tape) Disc Two: 10. Houses In Motion 11. Born Under Punches 12. Crosseyed And Painless 13. Life During Wartime 14. Take Me To The River 15. The Great Curve running time: 82 minutes Excellent audience recording in front of stage.( B double plus ) source: Nakamichi lineage: Master cassette > behringer ultra curve pro deq 2496 equalizer > tascam cdrw750 > plex tool professional XL > wav > flac. Note : The Talking Heads show was part of a 3 days festival with Selecter and Telephone ************************************************** Talking Heads 81-02-27 live at the sun palace,tokyo japan transfer: dat(sbd) in tascam da20mkII>rme96/8>cd wav>mkw>shn. d01: 1)psycho killer(5:24) 2)stay hungry(3:51) 3)cities(4:54) 4)drugs(5:00) 5)once in a lifetime(5:57) 6)houses in motion(6:54) d02: 1)born under punches(8:28) 2)crosseyed and painless(6:50) 3)life during wartime(5:18) 4)the great curve(7:11) 5)the book i read(4:50) 6)girls want to be with girls(3:44) 7)mind.(4:33) ((MarkintheDark note: this entire show is included on a single CD; although the shn files & setlist that came with the show has it broken into two discs it fits onto a single disc easily)) ************************************************** Talking Heads 1983-08-02 Civic Arena, Springfield, Massachussetts Recorded By: Robert Mullen Source: Audience Master Cassettes Transfer Date: 2008-12-21 Equipment/Transfer: Realistic Stereo Electret-1065 Microphone>Panasonic Stereo Cassette Recorder w/ Auto Record Levels>Master Cassette Tapes (TDK SA-X90's)> Yamaha Natural Sound Stereo Double Cassette Deck K-902>CD Wave Editor (16bit/44.1hz)>Traders Little Helper (flac level 8). Comments: This recording came out pretty well considering the equipment I had at the time. We were in the 2nd row in front of the stage just left of center. Disc One 01-Psycho Killer 02-Heaven 03-Thank You For Sending me An Angel 04-Building On Fire 05-The Book I Read 06-Slippery People 07-Cities 08-Big Blue Plymouth 09-Burning Down The House 10-Life During Wartime Disc Two 11-Making Flippy Floppy 12-Swamp 13-What A Day That Was 14-This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody) 15-Once In A Lifetime 16-Big Business-> 17-I Zimbra 18-Houses In Motion 19-Genius Of Love 20-Girlfriend Is Better 21-Take Me To The River 22-Cross-Eyed & Painless Band Members: David Byrne-vocals, guitar Tina Weymouth-bass, guitar, vocals Chris Franz-drums Jerry Harrison-guitar, keyboards Bernie Worrell-keyboards Alex Weir-rhythm guitar Steve Scales-bongos, percussion Lynn Mabry-b/g vocals Ednah Holt-b/g vocals ((MarkintheDark note: the flac files for this show didn't have it broken into two discs)) ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Mon, 03/09/2009 - 12:50

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Two more enjoyable shows with excellent sound quality that have been culled from my Cassette collection. One Dead show and one show from Robert Hunter Solo Acoustic. These are Audio Formats (4 CDs total for both shows) and both are SBD. Grateful Dead 12/31/82: Oakland Auditorium Arena Disc 1: Cold Rain and Snow C.C. Rider** Cumberland Blues Far From Me Cassidy Ramble on Rose Looks Like Rain Day // Job NYE Classical Intro Sugar Magnolia Sugaree Man Smart/Woman Smarter Disc2: Ship of Fools Playin' in the Band drums space Not Fade Away Deal Sunshine Daydream Disc 3: Turn on Your Love Light* Tell Mama* Baby What You Want Me to Do* Hard to Handle* Midnight Hour* E: Brokedown Palace *with Tower of Power & Etta James ** with Matthew Perry Robert Hunter The Other End NYC 8-11-79 01. Cumberland Blues 02. Let me sing Your Blues Away 03. Wharf Rat 04. Harp Tree Lament 05. Rum Runners 06. Sweet Alice 07. Bertha 08. China Cat > the eleven > China Cat 09. Althea 10. One Thing to Try 11. Brown Eyed Women 12. A Song My Cat Wrote 13. Doin' That Rag 14. Grinnin' in your Face 15. Peggy-O > Dire Wolf > Peggy-O > Dire Wolf 16. Tiger Rose > 17. Rubin & Cherise 18. Sunshine Daydream > Scarlet Begonias >Sunshine Daydream > Scarlet Begonias > Stella Blue > Sunshine Daydream > Scarlet Begonias 19. Ripple 20. Boys in the Bar Room
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Submitted by erickat on Mon, 03/09/2009 - 13:06

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if this topic would stay sorted to the top of the vineyard so we don't have to go hunting for it all the time. But... that's not how it works. I'm just posting this to move it back up to the top temporarilly. been kind of preoccupied lately - with life & worry - not that it does any good. Will try to think up a good (little) vine to put out soon.
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Mon, 03/09/2009 - 14:19

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The Much Bigger Bit of Janis Joplin CD vine is next up, because Pigpen would want it that way. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 08:22

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I'll do my best to get these sorted out later today.
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 11:48

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Hi!Here is a list of vines that are at the end of their signup lists, I think. Probably a few errors, and probably a few unresponsive viners, but if you're horny to burn shows here are some needy ones. Vine name is followed by the last known viner. PM me with error reports. To find the vines' signup lists fairly easily copy'n'paste the vine name into the "Search" box and click "go", the vine's topic should show up on the first page of hits. Sign up for the vine, PM that last viner and you're off! Vine Name, Last Known Viner '66 Vancouver Shows Vine, Birdsong1969NJ Carousel Ballroom 3/3/68 Vine, Birdsong1969NJ Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine, Birdsong1969NJ Nassau March '90 Vine, boise83 Hampton '89 Reseed Vine, boise83 Jerry Garcia/Greg Harrington Interview Vine, deadheadben Field Trip '72 Vine, deadheadben Jerry and Merl 6/3/75 Vine, ejjd UK SOL Party Vine, ejjd Huntington WV 1978 Vine, fluffhead420 Lewiston, ME 9-6-80 Vine, fluffhead420 Merriweather Post Pavilion 7/1/85 Vine, fluffhead420 NYE '71/'81 Vine, fluffhead420 Louisville/Atlanta '90 Vine, Gratefulmikes Merl Saunders Keep On Keepin' On Vine, jgroove Jerry's Last Show Vine, LoneStarDarkStar 1971 Tour Vine, MarkintheDark Cleveland Rocks Vine, U.S. Version, MarkintheDark Phil Lesh Christmas 2007 Vine, pkpotter Eurobits Vine, rambelinbearisgrateful HolyDaze 2007 Eurovine #6 - U.S. vine, ripple1974 Phil Eurovine #1, ripple1974 Eurovine #3 - US Branch, ripple1974 History Lesson Vine - Wildwood Boys 2-23-63, sakparadise The Big Led Balloon 12-10-07 Vine (Led Zep), Schnebs 1967 Jerry Interview Vine, TxJed (and somebody get those vines off of Birdsong, he's starting to whine ;^) ) ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by marye on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 12:56

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re the Brent vine, I'm making inquiries but it ain't looking good. Suffice it to say that a)those tapes seem to come with a good deal of baggage and b)they may yet see the light of day in formal fashion. Hey, I'd buy it... I don't have an absolute definitive answer yet but that's how the wind's blowing at the moment...
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 13:05

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...I think, from here to its new topic. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by Lopezz on Tue, 03/10/2009 - 18:40

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I trade in bulk and pick up odd ball things(mostly not labeled) like this sometimes. A formal release would be a definite upgrade from what I have.
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 06:01

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Again, you should be getting a paycheck from GDP. -----Here come a riddle, here come a clue If you were really smart, you'd know what to do when I say Why am I going out of my head, whenever you're around? The answer is obvious, love has come to town-----
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Submitted by stuman on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 18:21

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Some Europe shows , how abt. september 1974 .. 9-9-74 Alexandra Palace London England ( partial show , listed as outakes ), 9-18-74 Paris , 9-20-74 Paris , and 9-21-74 also a nice show from Palais des sports -Paris, France.. This would be a shn/flac disc .. Any add ons or any objections before i put this together ?
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Submitted by MarkintheDark on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 18:35

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Those are on the Europe '74 vine? ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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Submitted by That Nice Hippy Guy on Wed, 03/11/2009 - 19:34

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Ok here is the 2nd part to the Early 69’ Vine. Im trying to keep them fairly small to speed up the vine process because they will include only audio cd’s. Sorry that I cant include a dvd as I still don’t have a dvd burner, but will hopefully be getting one sometime after the Chicago Dead show in May. Anyway I think this stuff is worth the extra time it takes to copy the music cd’s. Part 2 will be 8 audio disc’s. Grateful Dead 3.29.69 Ice Palace, Las Vegas, NV **This show fits on an 80 minute cdr** Liberated bootleg: Live At The Ice Palace Source: SBD>?>BOOTCD>CDR Single Set 1. Morning Dew 10:12 2. Schoolgirl 9:55 3. Doin' That Rag 8:05 4. Dark Star> 15:34 5. St. Stephen> 7:04 6. Eleven> 11:04 7. Lovelight 14:35# EAC>WAV>SHN by dan vinson (brokedwn@pacbell.net) Grateful Dead -- Avalon Ballroom -- San Francisco, CA April 4, 1969 MSR>C>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN Disk 1: Set I 1. Good Morning Little School Girl 2. Doin' That Rag 3. Cryptical Envelopement-> 4. Drums-> 5. The Other One-> 6. Cryptical Envelopement-> 7. Death Don't Have No Mercy Disk 2: Set II 1. Lovelight * 2. Dark Star-> 3. Saint Stephen-> 4. The Eleven-> 5. Feedback ***1 SHN disc//2 audio discs*** Grateful Dead 4-6-69 Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco SBD>FM>MR>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN Disc 1 (61:55) set 1 1. //Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl% (5:47) 2. Tuning (1:54) 3. Beat It On Down The Line (3:34) 4. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (8:06) 5. King Bee (7:16) set 2 6. //Cryptical Envelopment--> (1:54) 7. Drums--> (0:16) 8. The Other One--> (10:55) 9. Cryptical Envelopment--> (10:21) 10. Death Don't Have No Mercy (11:46) Disc 2 (38:31) set 2 continued 1. Lovelight (23:42) 2. Tuning (1:57) 3. Viola Lee Blues (12:50) Grateful Dead 4-11-69 University Auditorium, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona SBD>MC>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN set 1: (missing Morning Dew) ? (missing Sittin' On Top Of The World) ? (missing Cryptical Envelopment-->) ? (missing The Other One-->) ? 1. //Cryptical Envelopment--> (8:38) 2. It's A Sin (6:56) 3. Hard To Handle (5:36) set 2: 4. tuning (1:49) Grateful Dead 4-12-69 University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT SBD>MC>C>D>CD>EAC>SHN Disc 1 (51:18) set 1: 1. Introduction (0:40) 2. Morning Dew (9:38) 3. Yellow Dog Story Part 1 (1:14) 4. Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (9:18) 5. Yellow Dog Story Part 2 (2:54) 6. Doin' That Rag (7:53) 7. He Was A Friend Of Mine (12:32) 8. Cryptical Envelopment//(-->) (1:09) (missing The Other One-->) 9. //Cryptical Envelopment (5:56) Disc 2 (54:36) 1. //Dark Star--> (21:40) 2. St. Stephen--> (7:03) 3. The Eleven--> (10:11) 4. Lovelight--> (14:30) 5. Feedback// (1:10) "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."