Grateful Dead

Looks like they are starting to get stuff setup for ways of others to view the concerts, at least Chicago and they look to be 5 Hour Concerts Each Night http://www.fathomevents.com/event/fare-thee-well/more-info/details

I tried to get 4 tix to Saturday in Chicago by mail order and was shut out. I just got Shut out for SC as well. Was gonna take my wife and 2 oldest kids who are in college and never got a chance to see Jerry or the band. Hopefully, Chicago prices come down to reasonable level.

big bump in #'s and bit of a drop in prices for SC today was earlier today 6/27 1937 $281 6/28 1784 $215 3 day 869 $695 7/03 1916 $287 7/04 1918 $337 7/05 1867 $380 now 6/27 2842 $241 6/28 2719 $185 3 day 872 $695 7/03 1926 $315 7/04 1910 $325 7/05 1866 $373 simulcast tix go on sale may 5 which should help even more

Fuck the Dead and the 50Th. They started this bullshit with their countdown last year and ended it with SC fuckshow. yes I was shut out of the SC lotto but only asked for $59 tix. no fuckin way I will pay the $'s to see this sorry excuse for a Dead show.Also fuck the bands bullshit letter to the DEADHEADS! Too much much trouble to play shows I guess..... much more fun to Fuck people on the way out to the bank...

Thanks for the knowledge... IMO, the movie theatre simulcast will flop. 4th of July weekend last place I want to be is inside where you can't have a smoke, cocktail, and a bite to eat. Shapiro has to do a PPV so folks can party at home, with their friends, and crank it up. My two cents...

WTF,FTW. Can somebody please help me feel better about this and rationalize this somehow?! If I am reading Fathom Events correctly I have a great chance of getting shutout at the theater too?!?! Wow this is such a wonderful opportunity. If I understand this correctly instead of people being able to stream the show through their house or internet with friends and family at big hootenannies all over the country I'm going to have to battle yet another ticket sale to get a chance to hear the shows as they happen in a friggin' movie theater?! The only theaters in my area that participate in "Meetup At the Movies" is a small local theater and there are a ton of deadheads in Western, MA so tickets even to that will be limited especially with the amount of people who got shutout of the venues. This is not looking pretty or even homely, in fact its getting downright fuckin' ugly. I DO NOT want it to but my mind can't help but drift to thinking Shapiro just keeps adding opportunities he knows will sell out so that it raises demand and he can just keep shuffling everybody into the next ticket line until EVENTUALLY everyone WILL get to get in but only after he has figured out a way to maximize and turbocharge his cash-rake for maximum efficacy. I mean seriously what is he going to say; "Oh man! Due to "unexpected demand" the movie theaters are all sold out! Now we will "try" and find a way to do an online simulcast. Thanks for the support and love everybody!" In the words of Bubbles the Sage this getting "fuckin' Greeeasy."

So I was shut out of all 5 shows, so it looks like the secondary market..my first show was July 4th bonner springs Kansas 1990..I wanted my last to be July 4th 2015 Soldier field. I caned that Idea and want to buy two nights in Santa Clara only, no Chicago How long should I wait and how much should I pay to these scumbag scalpers?..I am only going with no obstructed view 1 ticket for each night GA,100s or 200s Don't say face Value I do not think they will drop that low

The whole simulcast in theaters is crap. Who the hell wants to sit in a theater with sticky floors and stinky seats where you cant have a beer or something else in a mall on 4th of July?? LAME. Pay per view would be the way to do it imo.

It's obvious that things went down that no one will ever fully understand. Resellers with blocks of good (and bad) seats larger than the maximum allotment? Even if they have untold minions on their side, how are all their seats contiguous? Heads getting seats -- each and every one a great thing -- but seemingly also biased on the cheap side of things. How, why, who knows ... and, at this point, who cares. Personally, I still believe a lot of these resellers are going to get stuck and I have nothing but time to wait them out. If they eat them that's cool too. But I hope (and know that) no one will get off the bus for what this fiasco has become. We're not on this thing for one show, or two shows, or a hundred shows, it's more than that ... way more. This shit makes living amongst the "english" (to cop a line from an old movie) tolerable. Always has, always will. What's going down here cannot change that (even if you want it too!). That said, I think it's quite reasonable for folks to speak their mind. Being on the bus does not mean blind obedience, but rather just the opposite. Standing up for what's right, calling BS when you see BS, and letting someone know you know when they are peeing on your shoes. Smiling through adversity is the only choice when the shit goes down, but that does not mean ignoring the crap. To me it's more of a, "hey, I can take whatever shit you dish out," but I'm still gonna let you know I think it's shit. Silence serves only to sanction. On the bus for all of my teenage and adult life and nothing, I mean, nothing can get me off. It's my goddamn bus anyway. Sorry for the length of this rant. I feel better now.

For everyone getting all twisted about tickets....Please keep in mind Jerry Garcia will not be there,repeat Jerry Garcia will not be there. It's nice the "core four" (I think Jerry and Pigpen may be bothered be the exclusion) are padding the retirement fund but it's a cover band. ....Don't sweat the small stuff ....and this is small. Enjoy the memories, tapes, cd's videos etc this is just a money grab

For everyone getting all twisted about tickets....Please keep in mind Jerry Garcia will not be there,repeat Jerry Garcia will not be there. It's nice the "core four" (I think Jerry and Pigpen may be bothered be the exclusion) are padding the retirement fund but it's a cover band. ....Don't sweat the small stuff ....and this is small. Enjoy the memories, tapes, cd's videos etc this is just a money grab

It's up to you. Buy the seat you want at the lowest price you find out there. Or don't buy one. It can't be the first time you (or the other cats out there) have experienced a sold-out show, is it?

Remember. That's the way UESNYC sees it.

The point is I've been going to shows since 77 and have gotten into every show I went to except Lehigh University, Stabler Arena in 80 something....Many times without tickets but always confident I would score them AND DID! you have no chance of that happening at these shows unless you are willing to pay at a MINIMUM of hundreds of dollars which is total bullshit to see what's left of the Dead. It was never a problem seeing Furthur etc etc.Again the whole process is bullshit and the remaining band members are tarnishing their legacy. Want it back???? Play some fuckin shows......

Times have changed man.

Aint that the truth man...........

Get off of it people! well said alligator wine > "It can't be the first time you (or the other cats out there) have experienced a sold-out show, is it?" The past is the past man, yea 11 you got into every show. Now you're feeling the pain that so many heads over the all those years who have been shut-out of shows!! If you were ALWAYS confident and DID always get tix, then why is it wavering now. The 2 percent of tix [yes a ridiculously low amount of tix compared to the 210,000 tix they sold for Chicago alone] on the secondary scalper market, pale in comparison to the opportunity that there will be some good brothers and sisters unloading miracle tix or at least face-value!! if you have been paying attention to the word in the deadhead community, the demand for SC shows is low and there will be tix to have. some people are letting SC tix for reasonable $ to get Chicago tix! So, if you are so masterful at getting tix, get out of your funk, send out some positive flow and confidence [Believe] and maybe, just maybe, you'll get into all 5 shows!! other than that, wallow in your self-pity and quit bringing everyone else down into your dark world!!

So what is so hard to understand? The guys are stepping back. It's a farewell weekend. Playing at the last place they played when they were The Grateful Dead - but they didn't know it was the end then. It's for their closure. It's not a tour. It's a shame that we all did not get tickets, but it's surprising that so many cats seem to feel entitled to get one. We all agree that prices are insane and insulting on the secondary market. It's the scalpers who are shameless money grubbers - not the band. It's your choice to buy or not to buy. Either go or don't go.

I don't agree with the BS decision to do the theatre simulcast! Provide Webcasts online for heads to watch it on their terms and plan their own parties with friends!! If it isn't about the money Shapiro, then make it fair and reasonable for all!! At this time, I will give him the benefit of the doubt, cause we don't know yet > maybe that idea will come to fruition!! Anyway, love to all my faithful brothers and sisters, who keep it positive in the face of changing times and no tix!

I couldn't agree more with everything you said.

THE GRATEFUL DEAD’S BILL KREUTZMANN AND JERRY GARCIA’S ON TICKET SCALPINGBy MITCH MANZELLA June 4, 2009 Kreutzmann: I hate that scalping thing. It's one of my pet peeves. It's legal robbery. There should be a law against it. I'm not going to mention names, but the bigwigs in the business, the promoters—whatever you want to call them—one of them now owns a ticket company, and they were going to try to take a whole lot of tickets and scalp them, and we got them to stop that. It's asking our fans to pay too much money for something that really should almost be free. Garcia always said, “Music is so good for you, it should be free.” That's a famous Jerry quote. It's a sore subject with me. Our ticket prices are 80 bucks, and that seems like a fortune to me. I mean, in today's market, “Am I buying food for my family or gas? Am I taking my kids to school, or am I buying outrageously expensive tickets?” It doesn't make much sense to me. Crawdaddy!: What did the band do to curb that? Kreutzmann: They were going to scalp a very high number of tickets, and we cut it way, way down. The whole idea is that you're taking money from people that you shouldn't be taking money from. You want to give them something. It's simple. We got ’em to bring back a whole lot of the tickets. Way more than half. So we did a pretty good job with them. — Crawdaddy Magazine, May 22, 2009

Me and Mrs. Peakshead are still waiting/looking to buy two for 7/5/15, but we would "settle" for 7/4/15. Sincere congratulations to those who scored for June. I really hope our friend Klang did......he has worn his heart on his sleeve these last few months. The supply for Soldier Field tix definitely exists, but the price point the sellers seek will never be realized. No Deadhead is going to ever shell out four figures for a ticket to anything. MAYBE if Uncle Bobo introduced them and Pig blew some tunes, but even then, I don't think so. And that would require two resurrections !! The music will never stop. Moaning here about how these shows were handled serves no purpose. I'm not looking through rose-colored glasses, but I think Bill, Mickey, Bob, and Phil have done right by us with these five dates. This is as much FOR them to say goodbye as it is for US. I do not believe they are all primarily motivated by money, and they never have been. I'm just thankful I was in Cooperstown on 7/14/13 ( Cumberland > Casey at the Bat > Cumberland !!) and in the Garden on 9/18/87 (Jerry beaming while singing La Bamba) and the other seventy-odd times I saw them. Quit bitching and remember your own good times. Peace.

And enjoy that SC show (and hopefully all the rest). Be with you in spirit, and hopefully in person.

Thank You for a Real Good Time.

well said.

We..ALL know Jerry nor Pig is there..but the vibe/music/excitement still remains..something to be said about that..I'm sure Jer would even smile and say..wtf...have a GREAT TIME!

The boys are trying to do right...you can argue it's about the money, but what one of you wouldn't want a little of that? I LOVE that the Core Four is putting it back together for one more ride. I LOVE the fact that they are bringing Trey on board, Jeff and Bruce..shit, if any of these guys were playing at your local place..you'd be there right? They would love to find a place that we could all be at..but it's not going to happen. Finding two places with over 60,000 fricken seats is the best, EVER, attempt at pleasing THE (love the CAPS lock:)....fans..hope everyone can enjoy the songs, the love and the..summer. DEAD FOREVER..

the band and what survives of the organization sees dime one from the secondary market, so I can't imagine any truly reflecting soul would lay the money grab argument at their feet. There simply is no upside for them. Until these shows are over, I will remain optimistic that anyone who wants in will get in. The music and vibe suffers not one iota either way. This too shall pass.

Listen up all the heads out there blaming Bob, Phil, Mickey and Bill "the core four". It's not like they sat around one night and picked who would and would not get tics for these five shows. They wanted to do something for the music and the fans. You read what Bobby said in an interview early last year, "Something needs to be done to honer the music at the very least". Remember they are musicians/artists. They are NOT promoters or marketers or managers. They are musicians and all they wanted to do was to get together one last time for us and them and the music to honor it. This aint no money grab as I have heard time and time again from some of you. What?, you really think Bob Weir and Mickey Hart and the other ones got with their financial advisors and mapped out the best way to screw their fans while making a ton of money for their grandkids?? Come on now. They just want to play together one last time and do it responsibly and yes maybe make a few bucks ( not in my opinion the main reason) and then let it be. YES certain things could have been done better but I really think the organizers were caught off guard with how much in demand these shows were going to be. Stop blaming the band cause you didn't get a ticket! When Santa Clara tics go on sale at ticketmaster you might be surprised how easy it will be to get in. Peace.

Listen up all the heads out there blaming Bob, Phil, Mickey and Bill "the core four". It's not like they sat around one night and picked who would and would not get tics for these five shows. They wanted to do something for the music and the fans. You read what Bobby said in an interview early last year, "Something needs to be done to honer the music at the very least". Remember they are musicians/artists. They are NOT promoters or marketers or managers. They are musicians and all they wanted to do was to get together one last time for us and them and the music to honor it. This aint no money grab as I have heard time and time again from some of you. What?, you really think Bob Weir and Mickey Hart and the other ones got with their financial advisors and mapped out the best way to screw their fans while making a ton of money for their grandkids?? Come on now. They just want to play together one last time and do it responsibly and yes maybe make a few bucks ( not in my opinion the main reason) and then let it be. YES certain things could have been done better but I really think the organizers were caught off guard with how much in demand these shows were going to be. Stop blaming the band cause you didn't get a ticket! When Santa Clara tics go on sale at ticketmaster you might be surprised how easy it will be to get in. Peace.

Agreed. One question though ... what will go on sale on the 20th? Why would the ticket software reject buyers from the "mail order" and then put the tickets on sale generally? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that one.

Veteran of 220 shows if you count Jerry band and Ratdog..First show Colgate 1977, My wifes first show 1971. I love and remain DEADICATED. The Dead shape my life view. Our taper group mailed in one packet for the three shows in Chicago. We still have not heard back…no worries..the four of us, one from Seattle, one from New York, one from California and me from Colorado were eager to see the anticipated live streaming. My three friends would fly to Colorado/4 Corners area for the anticipated live streaming (in the event that we got shut out). Anyway, now we hear that there will be in a simulcast in a theatre. The closest theatre to me for Alpine is over a 5 hour drive. Those of us who live rural are screwed. Also sitiing in a movie theatre..come in. Allow us to be in the privacy of our home, streaming the concert, partying with more than popcorn…who is the BOZO running this show. My three friends have alrerady bought their tix to fly to me..if we can't see the show in my house, we will hike Chaco Canyon, Sand Canyon, Mese Verde, and remember when, but we wont sit in some stale movie theatre..Is this an economic decision..if so a bad one…ice scream cone in the forehead if you ask me! Please give us live streaming option…PS Phil I play bass..Phil me up.

Dude, check whether the money orders have been cashed or even contact Elvis at GDTS..if you are in limbo, chances in you and your friends should be booking flights to Chicago...so get your taping gear ready. Everyone has heard by now except those that either didn't put an email address on their cards or bunged it up somehow...but at the very least you should've gotten your money back if you were getting a pinkie. Good luck

You will never stop sleazy scalpers. They don't care about the scene. They are not true heads is my answer but the band members are not to blame for that. As for the 20th, I thought I read tic master on sale date was April 20. I guess I misunderstood something. I corrected my post. Thanks.

Bobby said as I recall something about "burying the hatchet" and playing together to honor the music. All I have been saying and will continue to believe is they "the Band" wanted to play they should be playing shows! if they DONT WANT TO then don't play! That's their right and I respect it. They don't owe me SHIT.Fine they made a miscalculation on demand for the Chicago shows, everybody makes errors in judgment. Since then they have permitted this to continue to be handled poorly in every aspect and that they are responsible for. Personally I can afford to buy what ever price ticket I want and travel however I want and stay where ever I want BUT I am not playing/paying into this total fuckshow. its even crazier now....Lets go to a movie theater for 3 nights in a row, 5 hours each night over a holiday weekend! "have a real Goodtime....." Remember that GD Productions started all this BS with their countdown last year and got everybody ramped up. GD Productions operations have been out sourced to Rhino and its all merchandising now which the Band benefits from and tacitly endorsed. So please don't tell me they are unaware and being taken advantage of. Everybody LOVES the band...why cant they love us back.....instead of pissing off half the community judging by posts here. If its that bad between the boys that they cant stand playing together any more then they shouldn't have played at all!

StubHub isn't the only place with lots of tickets at outrageous prices - check this out: http://www.ticketability.com/ResultsTicket.php?evtid=2548333&event=Fare… We are lucky enough to be going to Chicago so getting shut out of SC was a bummer mostly because we used to live in Santa Cruz and one last party with our Bay Area friends at a show would have been very cool - but we will be in Chicago so we are still happy. I do hope the prices come down for those of you who really want to go to SC - it's a shame so many tickets are being scalped. take care, connie

My point is that if most of the people complaining here that did not get tickets had indeed GOT tickets those same people would be praising the band. It seems that these people did not get what they wanted and are now blaming the band for it. I got shut out of several New Years Eves but did not blame the band for it. I think the fact that these are supposedly the last ones are a big reason why people are so bent out of shape. I still love the band and their fans!!!!

The Grateful Dead has blessed us with so much for so many years and am so thankful for all they have done and what will be. The Music will outlast and out shine all the BS

So many opined that Chicago was a poor venue for these shows, and that the west coast would have been a so much better choice. If that were the case, you'd think there would be more Chicago-Santa Clara trades offered. It seems to be almost completely the other way 'round. Everybody wants to be in Chicago. Could be because those will be the last, could be because of the holiday. "One way or another", it appears that Chicago is the place to be. Your thoughts?

for east coasters Chicago is easy peasy...one hour plane trip from upstate NY, i think the late announcement, financial restrictions for those committed to Chicago already, the holiday but I don't believe that is primary... but really Chicago may be the last time...I don't know... Hey can you watch my dog for awhile...

I'll have to ask the calico princesses... eh, girls? Um, they say "No." 'specially not one THAT size.

thats a discriminatory remark, its the way God made him...he is a true gentleman...but he is a dog, after all ... Right Sarge....Awooooooooooooyeahhhhhhhayyyyahhhhh... sorry Donna on the radio, he does Donna Karaoke.... how many felines in you brood? we have Sarge, Gus a Norweigan Forest cat and Eddie a Maine Coon... Grate Pyrs do love cats and children though.... hate trucks, buses and the man in the yellow hat...or any hat for that matter....

man o man, you got the best animules, ever! That is one pile 'o fur! How often do you go thru vacuums? The handsome fellow in my avatar is Stanley. He and his brother-by-another-mother, Oliver (a huge orange and white bag 'o fur with a hitler mustachio and some MC ancestry) were the light of my life for about 15 years. They have both gone on to kitty heaven, Stan in 2011, Ollie the year after (a truly gawd awful time.) I miss them each and every day that goes by without them. Since Cain pointed it out, I can't see that picture of Stanley without looking right at the mark-o-jerry on his handsome head. The current queens of my household are a pair of insanely calico-ed sisters, adopted from a shelter 3 Christmases ago. When they were babies, they had a lot of light grey in their coats, and they looked like little Australian shepherds. Thus, Waltzing Matilda (matty) and Sydney Australia (syd) came to rule the roost. Syd is smart a whip, Matty is... well, pretty. They're a joy to have around (shhh... there is a new kitty toy coming in the mail today)

SC not looking too bad. yesterday 6/27 2842 $241 6/28 2719 $185 3 day 872 $695 7/03 1926 $315 7/04 1910 $325 7/05 1866 $373 now 6/27 5020 $131 6/28 5191 $112 3 day 871 $755 7/03 1919 $315 7/04 1902 $325 7/05 1852 $373

well...I love animals, probably more than people...vacuum daily, on my second Dyson in 3 years...the bag vacs fill up in a single pass...went bagless. started with Oscar a coon, Rudy just fat but loving, Leonard king of Maine coons, all 3 in Kittie heaven, and now have these 3 fur balls or fuzz nutz.... looking forward to make your acquaintance in Chitown...thats for helping the SD cause...we all drive the bus....it takes a Village and we have quite a good population... time to furminate... peace kid...getting ready for my boys CD release party tonight...

yeah, I would never hit the theater either for the same reasons you state. For 5 hours no less. Lets hope the scalpers don't realize that.

I wouldn't dis the band. Music industry has always been the artists and the bloodsuckers who feed off them. It's the ole "Hey, you're a great band. I'll let you play in my stadium if I get 70% of the proceeds.", "I'll make you a star, but I want 80% of sales and the rights to your music.", etc.

Its because they are the last run of the last shows. If it was reversed and SC was happening on July 4th weekend SC would be more in demand. Simple logic

I get it. The whole process is not what was in the past and never will be.

I'm wondering if the volleyball net will be set up at the SC shows behind the soundboard. Cal Expo shows used to have games a couple hours before show time and your team could win tics to the next nights show. There is plenty of room on field at Levi. Good ol' laid back West Coast. Looking forward to SC!!...and a COLD beer. Happy Friday everybody!!