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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 15:51

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I'm holding out hope that the eight charges to my card disappear quick so I can get a legit order in. Looks like somewhere between 4950-5000 units still available plus my eight and god knows how many others in the same banana boat. I'm holding back how I really feel but one can only wonder WTF is going on! It's 2015 people. Crashing crap websites, non confirmation and spinning wheels. Very professional. I do want to give a shout out though for the CS rep I spoke to twice. Nice guy and helpful.
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Submitted by kyleharmon on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 15:59

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I won't be buying it either. This box set is a big huge joke to me cuz they basically put out a box set that only rich dead heads can afford. I had high hopes for the 50th anniversary and this box set is a slap in the face. I was hoping for non limited releases that would be in stock so everyone could enjoy the music well hasnt happened yet. i would have to say that the 50th anniversary has so far been a huge letdown and joke.
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Submitted by jonnygaz on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:03

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Waited an hour - nothing processed. So abandoned the order (yikes!) and started again. It took 30 secs second time round. Now where is the money coming from?
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Submitted by toddl on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:11

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Has anyone ever bought something close to this on a USB?I debated that version but went with the CDs for a few reasons. I was wondering if the files might go bad at some point. It would take a lot of space to back up.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:20

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I will be buying this box and selling full shows from 1976 - 1995 separately at $50 dollars a piece. Seems like a fair price considering what Dave's Picks are going for on ebay etc. PM me if interested with the individual show or shows & I will respond to let you know if they have already sold. First come first serve. 1966-1975 shows will not be for sale. This is not a scam. Just hoping to recoup some of the damage this box will cost me while helping others get some long sought after shows without going for the whole box. I will not raise my price ($50 dollars per full show - flat rate) & will ship them out as soon as I get the box. Sincerely -CJ
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Submitted by redemption searcher on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:32

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Shouldn't be charged any shipping for the USB or the CD box. The $50+ extra is tax if you're one of the six or seven states with that internet sales tax. (Never had one in Jersey back in 2011 when the Europe box came out-makes a big difference on something like this.)
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Submitted by RowStevieRow on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:40

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If this seems like a lot of money now what will full sets go for on eBay, yuk. Took a long time to order and two calls to customer help listening to 20 mins of awful music while in the queue, can't they at least play something more appropriate, "I Can't get no satisfaction" would be appropriate or "I Need A Miracle". The reps were friendly and understanding, so good on them considering the millions(?) of irate calls they must have been receiving. Gotta feel for people who really can't justify the cost of this, hope the next 'big' release (next year presumably - there is a limit to what we can afford) scales back to more accessible box sets in terms of price. At this rate i'm going to have to sell the Ferrari or change sex and appear on Vanity Fair like the bloke down the road.
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Submitted by King Harvest on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:43

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Got home from work, placed the order, confirmed. I am NOT rich, but I saved in preparation for this day and received welcome assistance from my loved ones so I had a credit card to use. It's the GD, ya gotta make magic happen! What is it,9.00 a cd? Come on! This is gonna be nuts!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 16:51

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That does seem like a fair rate, a few shows during that period maybe 2 disc, Now that the ordering fiasco has taken place, its time to get back to the music and the meat of the box. One question did anybody hear 10.20.68 on Sirius yesterday ? Death Dont Have No Mercy had a majot cut near the middle. This show is included, so I am wondering if they are going to patch or leave it be ? And any chance for a Matrix ? I know Dave mention the 2-tracks and a couple Multi-track. Some folks may get lucky with sharing stories or artwork that wil be included. That is why I am guessing they wanted all those fan submissions because they knew what shows they were going to use and I am sure they needed some ammo for a lot of these shows that were heavily requested over the years. And for Future Dave's Picks since 10.20.68 made a super random appearance on Sirius Today in GDhistory yesterday. Today's randomness was 12.13.80... A nice bonus disc for 12.13.80 would be the Acoustic set from 12.6.80 if a soundboard emerges.
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Submitted by One Man on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:01

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For my money, I bet this does not sell out. That's a lot of disposable income, and a lot of folks already spent theirs on the Fare Thee Well shows. But my money just bought this instead of that. I love it because it's such a monster. So audacious. There is nothing like it. I have a 28-CD Sun Ra box but that's all from one 1980-81 residency in Detroit. The only question of import now is: How many copies will shrewd investors like mayormarionberry and brianhane buy?
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Submitted by annalee10 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:09

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On the day the box set was bornMy cat he almost died The vet said seven hundred and twenty eight dollars Which could not be denied They say the wife caught the husband Ordering the big box set Visa card behind his ear And him not thinking twice Half step Massachusetts Uptown Toodleloo Hello baby I had to have it Thirty unreleased grateful dead shows Farewell to you old domestic bliss Start digging my grave-start digging my grave ..............My awesome wife is away on a business trip. I called her and told her the dead released a box set and I didnt know which cc to use (shes always changing them around).......she didnt ask how much.......I will break it it to her gently when she comes to a very very clean house in a couple of days...........I saw : Oxford, Paris, Albany and Boston......The size and price is crazy, but Im psyched.
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Submitted by snafu on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:10

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Why is it that they can have 2 major screw ups this year with the tix and then screw up again. Oh well after letting it process for 4 hours I shut it down redid it and got a confirm number in 10 seconds. Yeah save the money on the customer service that can answer nothing and put it to IT. On the other hand at least their putting out something worth having. The people that are complaining must not know how to save it's been coming for a year. No I doubt that we are rich just know what we want and will put off other non essential purchases like a bag of weed or 2 LOL
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:14

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a few days ago, I am considering buying an extra and then listing it right before they announce the last GD release ever. If i am around that long. Some of these years may never see another official release like 1995, I would bet it sells for Double when it hits ebay after Dead.net has finished processing orders. Just for the record my everlasting processing order, i just clicked off. Thanks customer service for the tip to not refresh or click off. I will remember that next time.
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Submitted by dshgd on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:20

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Several of these releases - especially the '73, '74, '75, and '79 shows shouldn't cost $700 and be limited to 6500 pressings. Ridiculous. I was really hoping they'd be Dave's Picks instead, but now they're priced out of reach. I hope the plan to keep individual shows away from fans will be reconsidered. If not, this is just a shameful money grab. My guess is that several hundred will be sold on amazon by Bears season ticket holders. >(
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Submitted by sykes on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:31

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My older went through a couple of hours ago. Price is fairly steep down under with the exchange rate bring it to just under $1000 in my currency. But obsessives must have it all and I will have a few months to put the money aside. I hope the presentation will be up to the usual inventive standard.Never saw a show but listen most days to something.
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Submitted by Huskerwing on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:43

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redemption searcher: I was charged $62 for shipping (that was for the fast, 7-10 days was $34) and $53 tax for Georgia. I don't see where the free shipping info is coming from?
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Submitted by annalee10 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:45

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Forgot the other important part of my day. I wanted to start the with some Winterland 77, tipped the box set upside down on accident and out pops the bonus disc. It had been hiding under the card board and movie ticket on the bottom of the box for a couple of years....lucky me! Found a bonus disc I didnt know I had and then spent close to 1500 on the cat and a box set....funny day
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 17:52

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Firstly, congrats to me for correctly predicting the exact format of the 50th Anniversary Box Set (i.e. one show representing each year of GD permorming history). I think a few other posters had similar thoughts. Anyway, all that matters is this is happening and I am incredibly f-ing excited! Every show is going to be smoking...especially the pre-hiatus stuff (and the '75 show), the early '80s and the '89 show...and my favorite attended show (3/27/93). Heck, every show is a damn must hear/have! Secondly, you can add 4 extra copies to WharfratWhitey's 8 copies that may be locked up and eventually put back into the available pool. Gee...what a mess this afternoon. I have no idea what to expect regarding the "pending charges" on my credit card. I guess I'll wait to see if they disappear. Customer Service was pretty weak, unfortunately. I feel a bit bad for them, as the nice lady I spoke with certainly tried to care/help. Now, with all these career-spanning releases coming out in 3+ months, what will be released as the next Dave's Picks? Later folks!
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:10

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They kept telling me to re-order, so I did. Eventually my funds were depleted entirely, and I have no money left to buy a set. I have $3K in money I can't access in my bank because of this little computer stunt / customer service shortcoming of theirs, and they can't even reserve a copy for me, until my funds that THEY WON'T RELEASE becomes available in my bank account, anywhere from 12 hours to 6 days from now. Classy organization all the way. Unbelievable that they're not prepared for this. Some of the choices seem weak. 1973 - extension of WL Box set + DaP 5. Nothing new here. 1972 - extension of DP 23, 36, 11. Nothing new here 1977 - hmmm. Well, Cornell, Boston, or Buffalo would have been nice. What I think I'm getting is Download Series '77 part II. 1978 - extension of DP 25 And I don't even like Brent. Maybe it's best I didn't get this. P.S. - I love the guy who wrote "Not shelling the money out for this one. I'm only interested in a couple of shows from the 80s and 90s." What? Why is he here? On this site? P.P.S. - my first posting of my experience with dead.net disappeared into the vortex. Must have been the F bomb I dropped.
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:10

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Based on the language above, it seems a good guess these shows will available for download, hopefully on a show by show basis. Because if the only option of hearing a released show is $750 or bust, that would not only be quite exclusionary, it would also stink like a baby's day old diaper. And those smell really bad.
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:14

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Hey MinasMorgul, You may certainly buy one of my extra copies (at face value, of course), if I did actually buy four copies. I honestly don't know if all four pending charges will actually be legitimate purchases, but I'll let you know. I'm sure others are willing to do the same. No worries (easy for me to say/write), but everything will work out.
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Submitted by Dead Ahead on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:17

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Call the bank associated with your credit card and ask them to delete the extra charges. They can remove them immediately. If you have not gotten an email verification or confirmation number from Dead Net, just have the bank remove all pending charges for this purchase and then do a new order later tonight when things quiet down. HTH.
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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:17

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Was not planning on attending Dead-Phish anyway. How else can I justify this. I got my first raise in eleven years. I eat low budget (and healthy). I can collect social security in a year. My rent is cheap. No kids to send to college. Economy car. Was at two out of thirty of these concerts. Waterbury, Ct.1972 and Salt Lake City 1995. OK excuses excuses. Well Phuck me blue damn it!,I've been phucked by the phickle phinger of phate yet again.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:24

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One Man, I think this will sell out, but not for some time. That being said, if theres enough volume to shut down the site, theres already a lot of pent up demand, its a unique release and the production run is 'small'. but the sticker shock will keep a lot away and alienate a bunch too. That being said, there were 12k DaP 1's printed. Want one? (kidding) mbarilla, I did listen to the 10/20/68 show on serious yesterday. I have never heard a Death Don't Have No Mercy I did not like yet. It was a cool show. They either will patch it or have a better source. ..and speaking of Bonus Discs, do we get one for putting up with all this nonsense today? Please, sir Bolo/master Pinkus?
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:20

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To the poster in Ga who asked about his shipping fee, the state of Ga requires all big retailers (revenue of 1 million) to collect an internet tax. I also live in Georgia and that extra tax just may get me off this sharp barbed wire fence I have been dangling on for hours. All I really want is 66-75 and the book; and to be honest, I don't have to have the book or the 72-74 shows. I can always wait for a la carte releases. Just like E72, I believe it will happen, but it will take a few years.
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Submitted by brianhahne on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:29

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So I've seen several scenarios with Dead boxes...immediate charges, pending charges, pending charges that go away after 2 days and show up 4 months later as committed charges. What's the story going to be with this one? Will it be pending, or are they charging cards now?
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Submitted by rpickeri on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:29

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Won't sleep well tonight. I've happily bought every set for the past 5-6 years (including the 72 set which my wife still brings up when angry with me). But I passed on the DP subscription this year to help fund the 50th purchase. But I never thought they would push out a $700 beast. Maybe I'll get a part time job. Maybe I'll stay strong and pass on this. Maybe I'll buy the set and auction half of it away (seems sad to break up a family though) Maybe I'll just buy the Phish set coming out later this month. Back to lurker mode.
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Submitted by kgandersen on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:30

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Thanks David/guys for releasing this------this looks really great. Appreciate all the time and energy you put into this! Some great shows in here.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:34

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A few choices seem questionable, unless they are planning something for Spring or Summer 73. And 1980 should have an acoustic set included unless some Radio City / Warfield is getting separate treatment. And how about a bonus disc for early orders ?? What's up with that 10.21.72 Truckin > The Other One > Morning Dew The 7 inch is a super nice touch. I will give them that. And WTF !! How are they not going to put some pics up or any sort of art, but a promo graphic. If it's so cool lets see a video. Supaaaaa unprepared. And please shoot it inside with no wind effects. Have Mickey do it with his Go Pro.
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Submitted by SheHiker on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:43

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Like (some of) you my order looped for a few hours. I phoned the cust service # and a very nice woman told me to wait it out, that she had been told that. I could tell from my router connections manager that my connection to the website was no longer there and clicked off. I emailed customer service and had a response that my order hadn't gone through, that their system had been broken for much of the day, to try again, and that the pending CC charge for the first one will be removed in a few days. My second attempt went through in seconds. So I'm covered, and maybe you can be too. My worry is for those whose CCs maxed out due to the "pending", and yet they're not getting anything for having their card tied up. I'm hoping they will be treated fairly and have their order filled; since the logs should show that they tried.
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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:45

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....but I've downloaded everything available from archives.org, most of them sound damn good, especially if you come from the tape trading days. When I think about some of the tapes I had!! I wish they sounded as good as the archive.org stuff (the Charlie Miller cleanings and posting are great). I laid out the big bucks, I'm lucky enough to have the green. I have all the big sets since Europe 72, they look good on the shelf. I've been wondering where and when this summer's set would come out,,, just check deadnet yesterday looking of what and when, but no go. Then today the email came. But if you really want shows, check archive.org. I'm also sure you can find fellow heads who will share what they have. Now I need to know if I got charged multiple time,,, oh and what Dave's Picks 15 will be!
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Submitted by redemption searcher on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:48

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Huskerwing-I don't know if you went out of your way to choose the more expensive shipping, maybe they'll charge you that if you want to pay it, but if you chose one of the two cheapest,-$34.95, think it was?-you saw a credit of that amount before you clicked the final order, as state sales tax should have been the only extra charge if your state has one. Mine was $751 and change total here in NJ. The spring '90 and '77 sets had shipping charges as well but this one and the Europe '72 included shipping. No real point in choosing pricier shipping since it's not coming until Sept. anyway. You can try and change it now if you want, but have to start over again most likely.
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Submitted by zxtttxz on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 18:50

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That's great Annalee10. Congratulations! I had to check my box to see if there's something hidden in there...turns out I'd already listened to the bonus disc. It was a great surprise for you though!
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Submitted by redemption searcher on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:12

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Salt Lake 2/95 weren't the best shows I ever saw, but they were fun, the 21st was definitely the best, and they were the best seats I ever had for a 3 night run. Remember when ordering on the phone old fashioned pre-internet days, I got thru after ten minutes BEFORE the 10 AM or whenever it was on sale hour about 9:57 or 9:58 and the ticket master lady was cool and told me she'd put me on hold until the hour struck. She came back to me before 10:05AM and told me she had 12th row Phil zone, 10th row center and 4th row Vince for his birthday show, three tickets each night. Was I stoked. So close we probably scared the band, as Damone would say. Remember noticing how snow-white jerry's 52 yr. old hair looked all of a sudden. Ticketmaster lady, wherever you are now, God bless ya forever. Scene was surprisingly mellow too, for Mormon town Salt Lake, we were expecting paranoia.
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Submitted by gdhead77 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:00

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First of all Worcester does not have an "h". Now that being said I was at that show and it was fantastic. Yes I have many of these shows in excellent quality but I have been begging Dave and Mark P for over 10 years for the 10/12/84 Augusta show and now that they have made this part of the box, I just had to buy this. Plus I always said I would buy these releases as part of my gratitude for all the free music. So here we go and I can't wait to get this. 10/12/84 Morning Dew!!!
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:02

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Customer service for the GD store gets bashed around here often, and with good cause. I am going to relate the flip side. I called when I was hung up in the circle of death and the guy took my name and number and said he would call me back when the system was fixed and taking orders. He did just that this evening and walked through the one order that did go through and the four that were approved to make sure I didn't want them to actually go through and be charged. His quote was he wanted to make sure I got what I wanted and didn't get what I didn't want as a result of the tech issues. That's good customer service right there.
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Submitted by PonchoBill on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:16

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To all those who are scared to purchase for fear of the wife"s wrath ( I am one too). I ALWAYS think it"s better to beg for forgiveness rather than ask for permission. I think it will apply in this case. I'm really happy to see the 92 show from the hammer in there. I think if this box is done right, if everything promised is delivered, than this box just might win a Grammy. Thank-you for doing this .
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:29

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So it turns out my first order was probably cancelled, but then it did go thru. Although by then it was ordered again and without incident- this time it took 2 minutes, smooth sailing. This wouldn't be a big deal, but, and this is a big but- That $750 is frozen, even though the order didn't (or did?) go thru. I'm not one of the Carnegie descendants- I can't throw around $750 credit card authorizations like jelly beans at a Jolly Rancher Festival. Hopefully the card isn't actually charged until September, so I can live on Jelly Beans and Jolly Ranchers until then. Never had a problem ordering here before, and hopefully never will again- but what a fiasco.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:38

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11 1/2 hours from first seeing the announcement,and I must say I'm still a little flabbergasted.But in that good way. Still a little speechless. Thanks Dave & all else involved. :o)
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:39

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Fucking wild.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:45

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I bet they wanted to make this announcement before Amazon. Once we figured out what was going on, the floodgates had to be opened. Explains the clusterfuck, but I am just speculating. ..but if you planned this, would you let Amazon go first? Not! Looking at this. Its going to be the Box to Rule All Box Sets. (now for the second mortgage to pay for it). There's shows here I never thought would get released that are just killer.
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 19:53

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It's just a temporary authorization that will be removed in a few days. Though until it's removed those funds are occupied. It's really just the principle that a $750 hold was placed for something that wasn't actually ordered. Anyways, as long as I didn't order it twice, then everything will be fine (and there's some who tried more than twice). Might not know for sure until September and it starts shipping. Anyways, the ordering fiasco will hopefully soon be a distant memory.
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Submitted by Dead Ahead on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 20:45

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Zuckfun - Call your bank now (use the fraud number which is manned 24/7) and ask them to remove the first pending charge on your account. That will free up the $750 the charge is currently using up on your credit limit.
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Submitted by brokedowndude on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 20:00

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Beyond excited about this.... I'm familiar withe Lindley meadows shows as being a famous unreleased show.... But am slightly embarrassed that I don't recognize any others as being famous shows.... Anybody up for providing a breakdown of why these shows were chosen?? Much gratitude.....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Tue, 06/02/2015 - 20:23

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....oh wait, 1981 Cornell....almost bust a nut. BTW, where are all the female heads? I remember the gender ratio being around 60/40 male back in my touring days. Maybe they really are "smarter". Gonna pull the trigger tomorrow. Don't tell the Mrs. I need to be johnny on the spot for the summer....
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