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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
  • #6636
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 17:56

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They've got plenty of time to add a july 2015 show/highlights on a bonus disc(s) Highly doubtful though...
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Submitted by rdrewr on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:03

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Forgive me Jerry as I am about to sin.. I am very sorry that some can not afford this awesome opportunity. Please don't post you and your families long list of medical issues that prevent you... if its true.. just ask for a list price copy from someone..geez
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Submitted by mpace on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:17

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wow I have usually cracked by now and bought the box... not this time - I only like about a dozen of the shows and would hate to pay for some of the later years. someone said that they will not offer individual shows because of the description - as an e72 vet I can without a doubt say they will change their mind if they have to pay the cost of storage for these sets. If you really want individual shows, have faith don't buy the box and force their hand - the customer eventually wins, even in this game.
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Submitted by TheDude77 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:28

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I really doubt that either person is making anything up about their family members that are ill. I'm also sure those people that posted that will be takin' care of when the box set comes out. After writing something like that..I'm sure if you needed help you wouldn't get it here.
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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:44

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Can't stay away from DP19 10/19/73. Seems like when I've reached a saturation point two to three times per year this always turns up. Not sure if I'm changing or if the music actually is on this set. Every time I listen to this show since the day I bought it I pick up on something else that blows me away. I really can't say that about every release though DaP11 comes to mind on this front as does RT 6/18/74 WOS. Back to DP19. Listen to the whole set but check out Billy and Phil on Don't Ease! I wonder if songs like this and MAMU sort of put the guys back on track. Maybe some jitters in the first couple of songs in a show and then boom! A three or four minute jaunt where they could gel and find each other and even things out. Lock in if you will. I'll spare the rest of my review because I've gone on before about disc 3. One of my favorite Dews. Anybody that hasn't got this or has not heard this and wants a perfectly not perfect Dead show should pick this up. It's a gift that keeps on giving.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:59

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DP 19 is probably my favorite release. I couldn't agree more. That DS>MLB>MD is other worldly. Some of the Europe shows do that, as does DP36, DP16, 2/28/69 and a couple others. rdewr, really? wow..
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Submitted by zxtttxz on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 18:58

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I usually enjoy reading the comments on here. Spurs my interest in digging out something old. Like the Egypt set that someone posted about a little earlier. I was about to listen to that (I love the pop-up pyramid when you open the cd pack) but then I noticed a single disc in a jewel case with no insert. It's Dick's Pick's Vol 13 Disc 2. I vaguely remember getting that when I had some problem with something I got from dead.net a few years ago, and they sent me a replacement, and I guess someone stuck this extra disc in there just to be cool. So then I was looking in Deadbase at 5/6/81 (Dick's Pick 13) and Dick Latvala wrote the Deadbase review (Deadbase Vol VIII) and that got me all excited to hear this long jam with Caution and Spanish Jam. Imagine my disappointment when the music stopped after Saint of Circumstance. I guess there was a third disc in D's P 13. Anyway, I went to remove the disc and noticed it was still clicking off seconds. Turns out there's a hidden Scarlet/Fire on there. All of that just to ask - does anyone know what date the Scarlet/Fire is? I checked in Deadbase and it doesn't appear to be from the next show. It's very enjoyable. And now I'm on to Hartford 10/14/83. While continuing to wonder about that hidden Scarlet/Fire.
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Submitted by dtobin7283 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:12

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Listening to June 9th from Winterland '77 box now, but I have to say if I had to pick one release I go to most, it would be Dick's 19. Something I can't put my finger on... mellow, great song selection, it just makes me happy after a hard day. That's what it is about, right?
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:20

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Wow we've still got two Dave's picks, 30 Days of dead, & Black Friday to look forward to this year. Seriously Dave, quit hanging out by the seaside & get back to work
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Submitted by uv1 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:22

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Dick’s Picks Volume 13 is a complete concert from their May 6, 1981, performance at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, NY. The release also contains a hidden track, a thirty-five minute version of "Scarlet Begonias” > “Fire on the Mountain," from November 1, 1979, from the same venue. Yes it is truly hidden; it’s located just after the "Saint of Circumstance." By the way, I got this from the "Best Of" website, which has LOTS of great info regarding almost all of the Grateful Dead live releases. http://www.thebestofwebsite.com/Bands/Grateful_Dead/Grateful_Dead_Live…
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:20

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I thought everyone knew about the hidden tracks on DP13 by now. They are from Nassau Coliseum, Nov. 1, 1979 I have always been a big fan of DP19. Definitely in my top 5 DP's Rock on
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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:28

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Sorry I'm back on it. The China>Rider transition starts off a bit iffy and then totally rips. The Dark Star is a one of the lightest DS's I've ever heard, plus it's a Phil Phest. When I say it's one of the lightest I mean it is very airy and light and doesn't take to you to the Dark places that say the version on Steppin' Out England 72 does. Not to detract from that one. This one is just soft. And I love it. Biiiiilllllllll ! Lastly maybe. If there was ever a show that Jerry played a multitude or plethora of 'runs' then this might be it. It's like he said I'm going to go out tonight and play runs and practice scales. And he did.
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:35

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Check your pm.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:41

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....got home from a long week at work. sat down at my laptop to Finally rip DaP 13 to my hard drive, then transfer it to my phone. Windows media comes on, and it plays the first disc. Audio confirms it's the correct show, but the picture and set list on the screen shows DaP 11, Wichita. Huh? I eject the disc, make sure its the right one (it was), pop in the second disc from Vol 13. Everything is normal. Pop the first disc back in, same Wichita pic and setlist, but plays correct Winterland audio. If this is a flashback from by dosing daze, it's a good one....anyone have an answer to this?
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Submitted by WharfratWhitey on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:47

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Umm nope.
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Submitted by Angry Jack Straw on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 19:57

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I no longer post publicly on this board for reasons previously stated. However, after reading these two stories, I feel compelled to help out. I would like to organize a fund to purchase a copy of this release for each of them. If you are interested in contributing, please PM me directly. I will not respond to public posts. Once enough funds have been collected, I will post an an announcement and accept no more contributions. Wissinomingddeadhead and mhammond12, I will keep you updated via PM as I receive responses. God bless the Grateful Dead
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 20:30

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Sounds like you took a little too much Orange Sunshine. Follow this link, at about 1:50 in, President Carter will talk you down: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmah06_ask-president-carter_fun "Take Vitamin C, Vitamin B Complex, if you have a beer, drink it. Remember.. you are a living organism in this world.. and everything is going to be ok." _______________________________ Yes, I have had this problem a couple times. If you are using ITunes, it is pulling up the wrong disc or your disc has the wrong ID and is pulling up the wrong songs. Try renaming them manually in ITunes.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 20:44

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....and same result. Really weird. Also, Kettle Brand roasted garlic potato chips kick ass!
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 20:46

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Wasn't looking for scoring a box via charity though your messages are so heartwarming. Was only sending wissongomdeadhead a shoulder to lean on. Don't worry about me, I have plenty of Grateful Dead concerts to keep me busy for years. Grateful Dead community is the best.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 21:32

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See if they've got Bill the Cat flavor...;o)
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 21:43

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....if the planets position in their orbits on the box pic is in the approximate same position as the date of their first show....that would be cool ....and it's funny. A month ago we were complaining about tote bags and coffee mugs, then WHAM!, the sandbag crashes down on our heads, and, after the stars and birds dissipate, we have this behemoth square in our lap. It's an all you can eat buffet....that's Vegas talk....
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 21:58

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I still want the 50th anniversary commemorative Gold cuff-links goddamnitt!! ...and secret Vault decoder ring...shhhhh! ;)
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 22:16

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VGuy, its very important you watch the link sent to you about a half hour ago. I am not a licensed professional and am not qualified to talk you down from this. This is much worse than I first suspected. It sounds like you are trying to align current planetary positions in the night sky with the artwork from the box set. Since the Box set is not out, we can only hope its a lightweight tablet you are holding above your head comparing to the night sky. In any case, please be careful. Pay attention to the video this time and please follow President Carters suggestions. Were the orange tablets barrel shaped? Take some vitamins and beer. You're not holding a big desktop monitor in the air, are you? Please tell me its an 8" or 10" lightweight tablet.
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Submitted by FennarioXRDS on Fri, 06/05/2015 - 22:17

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WMP looks up the metadata from an online library and often gets it wrong. Especially with Dave's Picks. You probably need to rip the files and then edit the tags. Not sure if you can do that directly in WMP. I use dBPoweramp. You're fine - no flashback. Sorry.
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Submitted by fishcane on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 03:55

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it doesn't seem like a true "linear narrative" bypassing the acoustic performances of 70 and 80, no?
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 03:57

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I only collect live music, and generally listen to full show's. This morning it's. The Who September 29, 1969 Het Concertgebouw, Amsterdam, Netherlands. Lineage: 2-track soundboard mix for recording > Master Reel-to-Reel > Reel-to-Reel (1) > MD (0) -> CDR (0) > SHN (for vine) (0) > Wave > CDR (0) > EAC > Remastering 2005 > Master Wavefile > Revisited 2006 (see below) > CDwave > FLAC ( Recorded by the AVRO Mastering: Dec. 2005 / Speed Correction & Channel Swapping: Nov. 2006 Both Performed by Prof. Stoned Track Listing: Disc 1 01. "House announcement" 02. Heaven And Hell 03. I Can't Explain 04. Fortune Teller 05. Tattoo 06. Young Man Blues 07. A Quick One, While He's Away 08. Substitute 09. Happy Jack 10. I'm A Boy 11. Overture 12. It's A Boy 13. 1921 14. Amazing Journey 15. Sparks 16. Eyesight To The Blind (The Hawker) Disc 2 01. Christmas 02. The Acid Queen 03. Pinball Wizard 04. Do You Think It's Alright? 05. Fiddle About 06. Tommy Can You Hear Me? 07. There's A Doctor 08. Go To The Mirror 09. Smash The Mirror 10. Miracle Cure 11. Sally Simpson 12. I'm Free 13. Tommy's Holiday Camp 14. We're Not Gonna Take It 15. Summertime Blues 16. Shakin' All Over 17. My Generation Total time: 2h03m27s
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 04:35

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Unless the Good Ol' idea makers can conjure up a solid run from 1970... Or a portion of Sept/Oct, 1980. As another individual suggested within the last 48 hours, a box of... GRATEFUL DEAD FILLMORE WEST '70 JUNE 4-7 I just listened to 6.7.70, Set 1 yesterday evening as the Sun was setting. Love the "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" and the stage banter that follows, Bobby sums up what they were doing at the time. He says, they have acoustic-Semi-electric, electric-semi-acoustic, full-electric, quasi-electric, demi-electric, nouveau-electric. It is not a coincidence the first song played after this banter is "Cumberland Blues" (reel flip during CB), then a very very cool "Me and My Uncle", and to finish up with "New Speedway Boogie." AND The second set of 6.7.70 is KILLER !!!
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Submitted by kirkmc on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 05:46

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It's true that not having any shows with acoustic sets is a bummer, but there have been a number of official releases, such as 5/2/70, and the Reckoning album. As an aside, I'd love to see a box set of acoustic sets. But I understand that the Radio City tapes (and maybe the Warfield tapes as well) from 1980, are either lost or damaged.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:11

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I am looking for original CD from 12/6/73 Cleveland, the one that came with 1973 Road Trips Volume 4 Number 3. I will buy or trade - I have lots of other Bonus CDs. PM if interested.
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Submitted by fishcane on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:15

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I hear what you are saying, but the fact there have been a number of acoustic releases doesn't hold water with me, there have been a number of official releases of live electric performances as well.... just saying' that for a true "linear" cross section, it doesn't tell the complete "30 Trips" story to ignore a defining portion of their careers
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:17

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Bears Choice, 4.18.70, 5.2.70, RT-Fillmore East, Reckoning,, are all fantastic offerings and each display some of the finest music from GDHistory. I am not at all disappointed with the inclusion of 4.15.70,, after all it is a few days after the run will with Miles Davis + others on the same bill. A run I have been hoping for, so this is a nice score being the next show after. I would imagine some good vibes carried over to the Winterland. I am also hoping this show was selected because it has material that may not have circulated in abundance. In regard to Warfield/Radio City, sadly I am under the impression some reels were erased. But I am also quite sure some full shows exist. *For sure on 9.30.80 = full show Good portions of 9.26.80 = acoustic set 10.2.80 = acoustic set and Set 3 10.3.80 = acoustic set
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:29

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My wife, Shari & I want to THANK YOU ALL for the kind words & offers to help me obtain this unobtainable box set my wife is rather overwhelmed by the amount of support we have received on this forum, in fact she may become a DEADICATED Deadhead, it took US an hour to read all of the PM'S that were sent. Now after another sleepless night after another day of going back & forth between various specialists & the insurance company to no avail we came up with a "new" idea why not directly go to the pharmaceutical company? The medication our 5 year old is taking is not new it just got approved for use here in the US as an epileptic medication however it's not technically approved for Lennox-Gastaut Syndrome but in our daughter's case IT WORKS & works well with no real side effects & it doesn't cause her to have a toxic liver. We will try every which way to get the help our child needs as even though she suffers, she is the most happiest & giving child I know, always willing to help out any way she can & does it with a smile. We will pay out of pocket for her medication for one reason & all of us on here know why we would do ANYTHING for our children, BECAUSE WE LOVE THEM!!!!! As I LOVE ALL OF YOU kind folks here in a place I like to call DEADLAND!!!!! WHEREVER YOU ARE IN THE WORLD MAY YOU ALL HAVE A TRULY BLESSED & HAPPY SATURDAY!!!!!!!! Peace, Jimmy Feathersmith
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Submitted by David Duryea on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:33

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Historical significance of the second set. First time Sugar Magnolia played live.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:35

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quite a few electric releases from 1970,, so how about a compromise from the Vault Keepers,, an electric-semi-acoustic , acoustic-semi-electric offering for a Dave's Picks in 2015? I agree it would have been a nice addition to the box set, presenting a unique time during 1970 and 1980. However, I will glady take a 2-4 show box from 1970, the X-factor year for me. Or I will even settle for an individaul release a la Mickey and the Hartbeats, might as well do this for Black Friday RSD. I would hope the RSD in November is a 1 or 2 LP release. And please do not do the 4 disc set of 30 Trips Around the Sun on Vinyl for RSD.. If Rhino is planning on pressing a vinyl for The best of 30 Trips,, sell it now,, do not wait to see sales of the CD compilation and then decide a vinyl will make up for lack of sales. My opinion, that was what happened with 3.29.90 and vinyl.
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:43

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Were not just music lovers.
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Submitted by fishcane on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 06:49

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1970 has always been a favorite year of mine. There was great variety from the boys across the 12 month span, both of recordings and performance, as well as sound quality. A box on par with Winterland 73/77 would be a welcome addition for a grossly under represented/appreciated year, imho. We always seem to get bits and pieces of 70, rather than anything comprehensive, 5.2 and 15.70 aside. to be fair to TPTB, 1970 may be perhaps the most difficult year to sum up in one show
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 07:09

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I guess the folks at Real Gone held off on DP30 for a while.. I think a few months back I had heard 29 and 30 would be next, and then they went with 6, 5, and then 29.. I would advise anybody to hold off on any Dicks Picks unless it is a steal, under $20. Real Gone will be pumping these out a few hundred to 1,000 at a time.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 07:13

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Agree with all the 1970's comments here. The first thing I did when I discovered the archive was pull down and play a bunch of 'An Evening With The Grateful Dead' shows from 1970 w/ the acoustic and New Riders sets. In addition to the June shows that got mentioned in this thread, what about Alfred college on 5/1? I was always partial to that show for some reason. Its a real shame they took so long to replace Bear with a recording engineer after the New Orleans bust. There are some horrific holes in 1970 where no good recordings exist. Sherman, set the Wayback Machine to Summer, 1970 and pack my D-5 and Shotgun mics!
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 08:26

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IMHO there will not be any boxes released until they sell off all of the 30 Trips inventory. These are too pricey for Rhino to keep them on the shelf. Rock on
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 09:16

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I also do not think they will make any official downloads available until the physical boxes are gone. This is what they did with E'72 and May '77. For Spring '90 TOO they made downloads available right away and now they are stuck with over 400 physical boxes on the shelf. I believe this is exactly what they are trying to avoid. Rock on
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Submitted by Seth Hollander on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 10:43

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Funny, Fishcane. Just before going to sleep last night, the part of my brain that is constantly swirling with thoughts about this box latched onto your same thought!I do think a summer 70 "Evening With" show was the logical choice for this set. I am still weighing personal pros and cons on this purchase. An unedited version of 5/15/70 would have been a big pro for me! (old loves of mine, those two shows that night. The RT release was a good chopjob, but the bits sacrificed are ones I don't want to be without. I always vote for whole shows over compilations for this very reason, even if I usually find that chopjobs are more pleasant listening experiences.) Like May 77 and the Spring 90 boxes, this is a perfect mix of some shows I know I really want and a lot of shows that make little impression on my personal Dead-o-meter at a price that debilitates my other financial commitments. I have been literally agonizing. If I ever got sent to Gitmo, GDM would be the perfect contracter for my torture plan!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 11:20

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I am glad a couple box sets are still available to purchase directly from the source either in a physical set or download. I do not think having a couple thousand of 30 Trips will have any bearing, in regard to the time on the next box set release. That number of about 2,000 will eventually dwindle, unless a historic size debacle happens when it ships and a lot of people return for a full refund. I am convinced a box set will happen for the entire run of October Winterland 1974. And will sell for the same price as May 77. Bring on the Multi-track box sets
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Submitted by dedhed76 on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 11:22

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Check your pm
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 11:24

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I'm trying to sell off a May 1977 box set on eBay to finance my 30 Trips. How is this write up? http://www.ebay.com/itm/201361443543?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=… QUACK....QUACK.....QUACK. QUACK, QUACK-QUACK-QUACK. What was that!? Oh..Quacking Duck Fire on the Mountain, Tuscaloosa, 5/17. That's right - the immortal Scarlet / Fire that was so good even Jerry regretted it: "I was chilling out, taking it easy just after the transition from Scarlet to Mountain, and my buzz started kicking in from a hit I took off a burning joint passed up to me by a fan. For some reason, after the intense performance of Scarlet, which I knew we'd nailed, I thought it would be a gas to emulate a duck quacking on the Mu-Tron pedal I'd been using on tunes like Mountain and Prophet. Looking back, I wish I hadn't. In the tape trading circles, which had blossomed into full swing that Spring, it simply came to be known as 'Quacking Duck Mountain' After that night, people began hollering Duck! Duck! every time we grooved into Mountain, and it was really just...I mean what else can I do? Bring a monkey onstage? It came to be expected, much like Townshend and the guitar smashing; and fans got upset when I didn't do it. I know how he felt - 'Smash your guitar Pete' Well, what you have to realize, is that it's the spontaneity that makes a moment like that special, and you can't REPRODUCE spontaneity man, it's a paradox, you dig? 'Quacking Duck Jerry, Quacking Duck!' I'm sorry, I can't. It got to be a weight around our necks, and eventually we moved on. Tuscaloosa was the only time I ever did it, and to be sure, I did see a line of fuzzy little yellow ducks marching across stage...It was weird man, really really weird...beyond the pale...
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Submitted by FennarioXRDS on Sat, 06/06/2015 - 12:01

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It doesn't cost anything to keep 30 Trips boxes on the shelf. At this point there are no boxes. When it comes time to order the boxes they will order just as many as demand has shown them they can sell. Though it's still selling over 100 units a day so it will probably sell out before they get to that point. In any case it won't prevent them from releasing future boxes because they will need income to pay for the storage. Does that make sense???
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