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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • cheyler196
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    Can anyone tell me why DVD-A is not the preferred format? One disc, one complete show, smaller space needed to store boxed sets, all you have to do is run your dvd player into a receiver and that's it.
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    Bush bad - Obama much much worse. Now keep your filthy unwelcome politics to yourself, we come here to escape the reality that a bunch of incompetent voters traded away our right to maintain our own health care system.
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    can't wait to get this box and listen to it in chronological order, choosing era-appropriate drugs for each show - lots of psychedelics for the 60s, maybe some grass and ludes for the early to mid-70s, followed by some blow for the late 70s stuff, graduating to crack for the 80s, and finishing up with ecstasy and other synthetics for the 90s. bring it on!
  • cheyler196
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    Ah well, that's the way I understood it anyway. If I'm wrong about something I don't mind finding out about it.
  • Edwin
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    No, it makes you a 9.2857143 e-07'er! given that there's more than 7 billion people, most of whom won't get it.
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    You should really check out these two links. The first is a youtube video put by xiph audio engineers, the second is a long article that you should check out in its entirety when you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Also, I should preface my remarks by pointing out that this has nothing to do with mp3 or any other lossy file format. It is referring to lossless, whether compressed lossless(like flac) or uncompressed lossless (like wav). mp3's are clearly inferior - the question being addressed is whether standard 16/44.1 is inferior to 24/96 or 24/192. If you think the answer is yes, you should really check out both links. Although within the video this is mentioned, it is not emphasized, even though I think it is the most important point. What he shows on the video is that, as long as only frequencies below 22,050hz are being sampled (band limited at 22,050hz), then an audio wave of any complexity sampled at 44,100 times per second yields a series of discrete samples where ONE AND ONLY ONE curve (the sound wave) passes through each point. You can draw a different curve through all the points, but it can proven that ANY deviation from the original would mathematically compel the original to include frequencies ABOVE 22,050hz. Since we know that we excluded all those frequencies, only the original (source) curve is correct. The job of the analog to digital converter is to recreate this original curve. Unless you are an infant or a bat, you don't, and will never, be able to hear or detect frequencies of 22,050hz or higher anyway. The video does a good job of explaining what 16-bits means. Most people don't know. The different - the ONLY difference between audio sampled at 16, 24, or even 1, bit(s) is the level of noise (exactly equivalent to tape hiss) that is produced by the digitizing process. In other words, it affects the dynamic range of softest to loudest sounds that can be encoded. 16-bits (especially dithered) has a wider dynamic range than exists on any of your music recordings. I have seen people wishing for higher than 16-bit files of recordings made prior to the early '80s. Well, reel-to-reel has a MAXIMUM dynamic range that is equivalent to about 13 bits. Casettes have a maximum of about 7, but were usually in the range of 4-6 bit equivalent in dynamic range. You can never get what was never in the recording to begin with. Even the most perfect reel-to-reel of, say, Dark Side Of The Moon, can NEVER be improved by adding more than 16-bits, because the ORIGINAL RECORDING never had more than 13-bits of dynamic range. Modern digital recordings, even though they are professionally created with 24 or even 32 bits, still don't utilize more than 16-bits of dynamic range. One key thing to keep in mind is that the audio situation is NOTHING like the video situation - using terms like high-def or high-res to compare what is happening with audio with what is happening with video is a complete misunderstanding - they shouldn't be using the same terminology and here is why. In video, high def gives more information to your eye. The more pixels, the higher the resolution, the better the image - the better the OUTPUT of the system sending information to your eyes. That is NOT true in audio, but it's a little complicated why. In hi-def AUDIO, there ARE more samples (creating larger files), HOWEVER, your EAR is never given any additional information because the digital to analog converter recreates the EXACT sound wave that was used to create it. In effect, 16/44.1 is LOSSLESS. This is only true if the sampling rate is at least twice the highest sound frequency being digitized. But, that's not a problem, since you CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING at above 20khz. So, the OUTPUT that the digital to analog converter creates, the SOUND WAVE that is created is EXACTLY THE SAME as if the converter was given 92khz sampled file. The only difference between a 44.1kz file and a 92khz file is the the 92khz file can properly encode all frequence in the range from 0 to 48khz, and the 44.1khz file can only properly (losslessly) encode frequencies from 0 to 22khz. Who cares? The range from 22khz to 48khz is INAUDIBLE TO YOU AND ALWAYS WILL BE - COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IN EVERY WAY UNDETECTABLE BY YOU. If you think otherwise, you should contact a university science department immediately as they may want look into using you as a secret weapon or somehow or other. In any case, check out both links. Or don't, because it is perfectly fine enjoying what you think you are hearing also (that's not sarcastic, seriously.)
  • cheyler196
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    We've all heard about various bands that were true originals and 'opened the door' for others to walk through...NYDolls, Pistols, GD and others. The Dead held the door open for decades and no one walked through. A couple stumbled through but fell on their faces. Nothing else like them to this date. All the other bands that claim to have been inspired or influenced are, really, just crap (for lack of a better word). My opinion, if you haven't guessed, is that it's all contrived quasi-hippie bullshit.
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    It's hard to generalize about mp3s. They are not created equal. I would challenge anyone to hear the difference between a well converted 320kbs mp3 and a CD quality FLAC. These listening tests have been done over and over and it appears that a vanishingly small number of people can tell the difference with any statistical significance. Of course, that assumes a playback system that can represent the resolution. In a car, iPod, boom box, etc., all bets are off. I listen to 320kbs mp3s (or AACs) most of the time through my Grace Design/McIntosh/Avalon system and it sounds amazing. Lower than 256kbs and it sounds like dog doo. Even 256kbs mp3s are a bit dodgy. As far as the analogy goes, it's not a good one. Nyquist proved that decades ago. You only need two samples per frequency interval to perfectly reproduce the waveform. Not adequately, but perfectly. Higher resolution buys you nothing and if you go up too high, you can end up with intermodulation distortion in the audio band. 60khz is about perfect, but of course, we have a jump from 48khz to 88.2. As an audio engineer, I'm usually doing 88.2 these days. But 44.1khz honestly sounds really good with the right converters. Of course, I would never condone reconstituted FLACs, WAVs, etc., from mp3s being passed along by traders as full resolution.
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    Damn right.
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    The best way I've heard it described is to think of a photo in the newspaper. It's all made up of dots (or used to be anyway). Looking at it from arm's length it looks pretty good. Look closer and closer and you can see the dots that make up the picture. With mp3, you can 'hear the dots' much more easily than you can with flac. There are many different types of files, some lossy and some not. Starting at the bottom and working upward, each has more information than the last. That's about it. There's just less information included which is why mp3s are so much smaller than flac. I don't get the mp3 thing, unless it's something that can't be procured any other way...and they're a huge liability for traders. I'd rather burn up GBs at a faster rate than get ANYTHING in mp3. They are the bane of all existence, although still not approaching the level of George Fucking Bush.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Now THAT's a bucket list! ;) sorry,couldn't help it
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Barton Hall 5/8/77 will be announced as a single release on June 23, 2015.
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That's pretty specific-why June 23rd? Eventually, it should be released just for posterity. (My copy was always missing beginning of Minglewood anyway)
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Living in Australia and having to pay so much for the concert tickets was brutal and this was the last thing I needed...still got it though. Looks like there will a fair few more 50 hour work weeks.
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Any guesses as to how many more inaudible videos he'll continue releasing until he figures out you can shoot video indoors?
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All I can say is....windscreen.:)
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It used to annoy me, the seaside distractions, wind, how a tsetsi fly can yank his mind from a killer Scarlet>Fire to, "Hey, look, a boat and a sea gull" Now it just cracks me up. I actually look forward to them. We should make a drinking (or toking) game out of it somehow. It wouldn't be a release video without the outdoor distractions and C- production effort. It would be like the year they did Saturday Night - "not live." Remember that? Didn't work. Just my two cents.
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Been a lurker but finally decided to join in. I cut my teeth on the Dead about 2 years ago and have been loving every minute of it. The music really is a conduit to whatever you want it to be. The fact that there are so many shows and so many ways to listen to them is mind blowing and I have a long way to go on my GD journey. This thread has been great, yes there has been bickering and some whining here and there, but overall, it's been a great teaching tool. I love when people mention show dates or versions of songs that they love, it gives me things to research and brings out the nuances of the music and differences in people's taste. Trying to find a copy of DP19 now, thanks for that info. There was no question for me, I had to have the box. I can't wait to see what this behemoth is going to look like already. Let's go Dave, show us some pics! "When you gotta shoot a video, you gotta shoot a video." And to add to the decade debate, I find myself gravitating to the energy and youthfulness of the 70's but there is something about Jerry's voice in the 89-90 run that I can't get out of my head. (FYI, the TOO box is worth the purchase.) The warble, the reaching...something magical is happening during the show's where he's on. I'm obsessed right now with Cold Rain and Snow from the 7/4/89 show. I thought it couldn't get any better until I recently heard his backup vocals on Desolation Row from the 7/19/89 show. Unbelievably haunting and beautiful. Can anyone point me to other versions of Row like this one?
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Fantastic! I´ve been listening to a handfull of the shows selected for the BIG BOX. They´re all great! I found them on archive.org, and I can only believe that they sound even better on CDs. There are many shows where Phil exels: Greek theatre, Parc des Expositions, and many others Being a bassplayer myself, it give me enormous pleasure to listen to them! If I could afford the box (and my wife would allow it: -When you´re gonna listen to them all? -You have everything else...hundreds of CDs!..&c) it I´d buy it immediatly.
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3-24-90, on Postcards of the Hanging
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Thanks - I missed the heck out of the old Eleven crew...that and the black hole gravitational pull of The Box wouldn't let me permanently escape deadnet's orbit. RD - Re: the "precursor" series - after burning a few videos for posterity sake, I sold almost all releases on ebay for a handsome profit. Unfortunately, having requested a comparably aged spouse, I had to dump him at a deep discount as that 80's stuff just don't sell as well with deadheadz. peace, K
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Long time lurker... First post. I'm thinking of buying a second box with the intention of trading it for a Europe 72 trunk + Dave's 1&2 with bonus. I would consider other combinations like Europe all music + Dave's 2012 complete. Pm me if you have any interest and I can order the box to be shipped directly to you. Possibly interested in some road trips.
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Pretty happening... Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment ->
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I have all the other Boxsets even the Fillmore set. Unfortunately I wont be able to bite the bullet on this one this year. But if someone wants to Miracle me one Im sure I have some music I can trade. :)
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Seth says: "I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing!I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality!" Dang! I would really like to hear this speech. A friend of mine swears that some choice banter that was on his 10/30 or 31/1970 tape didn't make it over to the digital realm. Perhaps that is the issue with 5/15/70?
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I just sent you a PM :)
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anyone know how many left? I was goofing with my wife last night, told hear about the 30 trips box. I said to her, oh, didn't you say the charge on the credit card? it should show on the card any day... Her jaw dropped... again, I did not purchase, but was curious to her reaction... good thing i didn't pull the trigger! dog house for sure...
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It's sold out. Sold out Thurs. when u go to checkout will say " basket contains item sold out or " item cannot be paid with V .me
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Hey Keithfan. They just dropped below 1900 left, so 4,600 out the door. They seem to be clicking along at 50 - 100 sold per day. So while it is not as fast as the E'72 box, it will sell out, probably end of June, early July. So that will give some folks more time to collect their coins. Rock on
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Nope. I can still add to the cart. Must have been an error on Thursday.
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I can. It's 700 bucks! That simple fact alone will keep lots of fans like myself from even considering purchasing this. Any way I shake it I just can't pay that much in one shot for a box set of cd's no matter how badly I want it.
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I'm with you, it's 700 bucks! Many of my buds were in shock when we heard that last week. I also can't believe that so many have actually sold. It's just out of reach for me but it sure will be something special. Spent all of Saturday night early Sunday revisiting the May 77 box. Loved reading the booklet & getting deep into the Alabama show.
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Me neither. Talking about Veneta. I am shocked that thing is still available. I jumped on it the first day it went on sale. I consider it a top 5 all time show, it's incredible! The slipcase packaging is very cool, I display it next to my Todd Mcfarlane Jerry Garcia "action" figure. :)
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then after we win we can each buy a copy . So many good shows that deserve the official treatment, yet it is beyond my grubby little dollar colored fingers. Send me your dollars, and I'll play Lotto for you. Stoltzfus 169 Please Road Fatchoad, NE 0U812 cash only
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Looks like the 50th Anniversary T is back in stock... I can afford that! ;)
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IF I was to buy into this "thing" I would prefer to pick my own 30 Trips. That would mean so much more to me. If I say any more I would just get a bunch of people pissed off. So I would rather pick my own 30 trips and lets just leave it at that.
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Maybe I will get that shirt for Father's day, Ha! My dog Sugaree would love that stoneware bowl to eat her chow from. Honestly if I am out and about and I see something cool Dead related I will usually buy it, but I rarely purchase stuff like that online. I only think about the music when it comes to dead.net
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...but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for THAT opportunity.
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I figured with Venetta, at least maybe the reason was because it's commercially available in (I assume) large numbers. Does anyone know how many Sunshine Daydreams were pressed? Was it limited edition? I bought mine at Barnes and Noble in April of 2014, and that's actually what got the ball rolling on me spending 1000s of dollars on Grateful Dead music, as my collection went from about 20 to 200 in the past year. We shall see how 30 Trips does. I hope it sells out.... With regard to comments that it hasn't sold out because of high price - I think the litmus test was E72 - wouldn't it be the same buyer pool? Are we saying that E72 was significantly less expensive, or significantly better? Or has it just not been enough time? Anyone know how long it took E72 to sell out of the original trunk limited editions?
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I will give you this $700 box set and you give me in return The complete Fillmore box with the bonus disk possibly some road Trips and some (I repeat SOME cash) Let me know. Thanks
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I have the idea that this box is not really attractive to scalpers, so they haven't been buying it up en masse. Most limited editions seem to sell on eBay for at least three times the original price, but how many people will be willing to fork out $2000 or more for this in 6 months or a years time? Not that many is my guess and I think the scalpers know this. Their other possible strategy is to sell individual shows but by doing that they risk getting stuck with a bunch of less popular shows. Furthermore, buying a whole bunch of these to sell later is going to cost a buttload of dollars with less certainty of a (quick) return on the outlay. Sure some copies will show up on eBay etc., but I would not expect to see as many of these as there are examples of (much) cheaper sold out limited editions.As I recall the Europe '72 box sold out in a matter of days, maybe 4 days. That certainly surprised everyone.
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but this would without doubt have given me cardiac arrest: 7/03 & 11/19/66 11/10 & 11/11/67 10/12 & 10/13/68 2/21 & 2/22/69 9/18 & 9/19/70 12/14 & 12/15/71 9/23 & 9/24/72 2/09 & 2/15/73 6/22 & 6/23/74 6/17 & 9/28/75 10/14 & 10/15/76 2/26 & 2/27/77 7/07 & 7/08/78 10/27 & 10/28/79 11/28 & 11/29/80 But what would one call it? Dead to die for? sheesh
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There is something to be said for a mass market release before the Chicago/California shows. This seems like a great opportunity to release a show that fans could pick up in person. Or maybe they'll be selling copies of the shows fans just attended.
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I am fairly certain that the limited edition box of Europe 72 sold out in less than 48 hours...
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I have a little bit of a different perspective. I only got into the Dead a few years ago, and while I've never seen them, I love the music - we're talking non-stop tunes in my house. My uncle had hooked me up with a starter set of Ladies and Gentlemen, Go To Nassau, Dozin' at the Knick, and Hundred Year Hall. I didn't even know who was who in the band other then Jerry and the good looking other guy. I immediately stayed away from Dozin at the Knick because I sensed something different in the keyboards, and that something was Brent Mydland's sound. There is something very distinctive about his sound that I can't even describe, but it's not a classic grand piano sound like you get with Keith Godchaux's playing. Even today I can't tell you what the difference is in their equipment, but Brent's keyboard is very abrasive to me, and I mean his piano synthesizer, not the organ like sound that he sometimes uses in the early 80s (Hammond?). Anyway, I kept buying shows, Crimson White and Indigo was another, so was Closing of Winterland, and the pattern with the keyboards seemed to follow Brent Mydland, so I began to steer away from those CDs. I also don't care much for his voice. He does not sound good at all when he tries to harmonize with the others, and I was in chorus for 5 years in my youth, so a high level of discordant singing is very apparent to me. I guess if I had to sum up my position, it is as an unbiased historian. I've never seen the Grateful Dead, I wasn't around when they were making music (for the most part), so I am simply replaying recordings as an unbiased listener and observing that there is a huge discrepancy in the quality of songs when you compare a live performance of a song like let's say Cassidy or Jack Straw or Scarlet Begonias between the 70s and let's say Spring 90. What I hear in 1990 is a tired Jerry, an out of tune, gravelly voiced Brent, and these piano sounds that sound loud and out of tune with the rest of the music (and by out of tune, I mean it doesn't mix in well like Keith's Grand piano sound, it doesn't make a "whole" full sound, the audio frequencies do not mesh to create something bigger than the individual parts). So, I don't find myself putting on anything after 1978 too much. I try from time to time, in the interest of discovering something, or "getting past" my hang-up, but it always goes back to the fact that comparatively speaking, the music doesn't sound nearly as good after 1978 as it does before. I get some enjoyment out of songs that were new to the 80s era, such as Feel Like a Stranger, Alabama Getaway, etc, but that's about it. I can understand why some people like it - I think the people that like it were probably introduced to the Grateful Dead in the 80s or 90s, or followed them out of the 70s and into the 80s and 90s. I think these folks probably saw a lot of the shows or at least shared in them together with friends when the shows were originally played, and so there is an emotional investment that makes these shows more appealing. I even get the "pre-hiatus" people, as there was a tectonic shift in the music after the hiatus that is clearly the result of having two drummers - gone were the days when the Dead played Dark Star, and the improvisations always went so far!
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Looks like they've got the new Best Of on vinyl.Good price too.:)
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I believe E72 Trunks sold out within a few days could be wrong
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Sydney Bechet "The Best of" (Blue Note) 6/08/39 ("Summertime")James P. Johnson "Snowy Morning Blues" 6/08/44 Roland Kirk "Introducing" 6/07/60 Gigi Gryce "Rat Race Blues" 6/07/60 Grateful Dead Winterland 6/07/77 Set two Scarlet > Fire > Good Loving Bob Marley "Easy Skanking" 6/08/78 Boston Music Hall What?
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11.21.85 ,, Some incredible stuff here Crazy Fingers > Playing In The Band > She Belongs To Me > Drums
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seems to think the mass-market release is going to be 8-4-76 w/ DVD. Anyone else hear this?
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Want to go there, yes I think I will. From what year will DP 15 be? I say 1976. HAPPY MONDAY DEADLAND, so glad it's (almost) over!!!! Peace
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If I remember correctly, they were gone within four days.
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i would be happy with a lot of offerings from this year, but a few standout.. 7.18.76 - 2nd set jam fest Might As Well Samson & Delilah Candyman Lazy Lightning-> Supplication-> Let It Grow-> Drums-> Let It Grow-> Wharf Rat-> The Other One-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Saint Stephen-> The Wheel-> The Other One-> Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia, Encore: Johnny B. Goode 1st set also worth checking out with a great choice of tunes
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Yeah, 7-18 is 24K.I would love to see the entire Orpheum 76 run get the box treatment, or at least compiled as a solid compilation with 7-18 as the centerpiece. I'm still thinking 73 for Dap 15....3-16 would fit the bill nicely.
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http://www.dead.net/features/europe-72/holy-s-it’s-complete-europe-’72-box-over-60-discs Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.
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