30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 23, 2015 - 10:03pm

#1001

outpost

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Reply from Dr. Rhino .....

Just received this ....... 'I apologize for the tardiness of this email. I have been advised by Dead.net that an official announcement will be sent out by the end of next week, regarding the ship date of your 30 Trips Around The Sun USB order. I have no further information available at this time. I am very sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience. Dr. Rhino'
November 23, 2015 - 9:50pm

#1002

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Top ten first sets?.....

....Augusta '84 may just sneak in there. A rocker from beginning to end. Must Have Been The Roses being the only ballad. Stranger, All Over Now, Cumberland & MNS are all top shelf. What a trifecta to end the set!! Simply wonderful. Jerry was a beacon of light that evening peering through the opiate fog with authority. You go Jer....
November 23, 2015 - 2:49pm

#1003

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

DJMac520

I know you are right - but that was the only way I can think of venting. I am really doing a project in class about this very topic, but we are using assumptions rather than facts. Thanks for the admiration :) I'm still truckin!
November 23, 2015 - 2:47pm

#1004

DJMac520

Joined:
June 18, 2009

sfrank115

With all due respect to a very well-thought out list of inquiries, you are never getting those questions answered by Rhino in a million years or with five million people ringing their bell (and keep in mind I am someone who cancelled their order last week, so I am among the great dissatisfied). Some of what you ask goes well beyond what they owe us as customers, it touches on issues that may be proprietary in nature and even if not, may have serious legal ramifications to the parties involved. For example, take the inquiry about a problem with the manufacture of the USB. If Rhino answers you no, that could be an admission against interest in any dispute with the manufacturer as to the manufacturer's liability. Answer "yes" and it could be a breach of confidentiality between those two parties in their agreement. Just aren't getting answers to those questions and frankly, you aren't owed that level of detail either most likely. But man I admire the effort.
November 23, 2015 - 2:04pm

#1005

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

USB

I've written and called them a bunch of times, and there is no new information about the chip - just the same rhetoric! I totally feel everyone's frustration. Here is some of the email I wrote to them after asking a few questions about the USB chip, and got another templated 'generic' response...... Hi there Mac (Dr. Rhino), In all honesty, I feel that the email you just sent not only didn't explain anything, but came across as patronizing. I am doing a project for my class about distributing box sets via USB chips, and the Grateful Dead chip is a great model for this project. There have been two other USB chip releases that I can think of which have been extremely successful: The Beatles Apple USB Queen's USB Orb I understand that they were put out by huge record companies with a large budget, but it makes you question why Rhino has had such difficulty with this release. I believe as a 36 year old fan of music that USB music distribution is a great way to acquire music as well as have a tangible product. But since this 30 Trips mishap - I think people's trust in your company has been tarnished. Here are some of my questions: - Did you guys get a test product, and if so, did it work? - Was there a problem with the manufacturing of the USB chip itself? - Did the issue have anything to do with uploading the music? - Was the chip not big enough to hold all the music in 24bit FLAC & MP3 along with the PDF? (I have yet to see a small flash drive with more than 128gb) - Did you get the entire shipment in and realize that it wasn't correct - maybe the ID3 tags weren't correct? - Was the production sent offshore to be produced, and there was a communication error? The reason my teammates in class agreed to do this project with me was because of the lack of communication with customers. I mean, all you have told anybody is there was a 'production issue' and thanked them for their patience. In all honesty, you haven't given anybody a choice but to be patient. You have not offered any refunds - and thinking that a backstage pass from a show in 95 is a sufficient consolation prize for a two month delay on a $700 product is pretty ridiculous. I wanted to take on this project because I care about the Dead community, and want to help so this issue doesn't ever happen again. I mean, in the two months since we were supposed to get our USB chips, a new Dave's Pick has been released, The 2016 Dave's Pick subscription is now available to purchase, and all the Fare Thee Well shows are set to go out. I may not be the only who is dissatisfied with the level of customer service and information, but I am the person who wants to help make a difference so future Deadheads don't experience this frustration, and I'm offering to do it for free! No strings attached. I will get an A on my project with or without working with you guys - but why waste the effort? ______________ I basically got a BS answer - so, instead of emailing the BBS, try contacting these guys below. Maybe, if enough of us raise hell we will get a few more answers. The problem is how they've communicated with us. Dr. Rhino: Dr.Rhino@rhino.com VP for Rhino: ben.trask@rhino.com
November 23, 2015 - 1:29pm

#1006

DJMac520

Joined:
June 18, 2009

USB Order

Cancelled. Enough. I already have the physical box set and had bought both thinking that it would be great to have the physical box for a collector's item, but the ease of file transfer from the USB and not having to rip each disc etc. was how I would get the music to my ears most quickly. Well the delay really took away that advantage and the outlay of cash made no sense. While the way this has been handled is a travesty, I will at least give Rhino CS credit for allowing folks to cancel the order and refund the money.
November 23, 2015 - 1:17pm

#1007

outpost

Joined:
June 11, 2007

Dr. Rhino and Warner Music Group

Well, I sent emails to both asking for an update on the USB ...... surprise, surprise, I've not had a reply yet. Customer Service my arse ! (that's a UK expression, in case you're wondering !)
November 23, 2015 - 10:48am

#1008

antonjo

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Moses ~ 77

I just popped '77 in for the first time as this morning's drive-to-work soundtrack. LOVING the first set so far, they really come out swinging. Jerry's leads sparkle from the get-go on Minglewood & Deal ~ sweet Deal. They Love Each Other is a perfect version, and Billy does some fun little rolls in the peak bars of Jerry's solo. And I don't think I've heard a finer Looks Like Rain from this era ~ the dynamics from everyone during the finale, including Keith, are just lovely. And the sound quality is immaculate ~ love it when I can hear the cymbal subtleties. Looking forward to the rest of this show, especially if 2nd set is even better...
November 23, 2015 - 7:10am

#1009

Moses Quasar

Joined:
November 20, 2011

O.K....

Just finished with the 77 show. Here are the shows that have blown me away so far: 67,71,72,73 and now this one! Ive questioned Dave twice: the first was Daves 3. I thought that coming on the heels of E72 this show had a similar set list and would have been the same old stuff but upon listening that show rocked! One my favorite Other One's of all time! The second was this show. I thought there might have been a better 77 show for the box(4/23 maybe?) but once again Dave has proved me wrong! Jerry is simply cranking on this! The first set is great, second set even better! Great Scarlet>Fire, probably the best Samson Ive ever heard and the Terrapin is Superb! I like the early versions of Terrapin where it starts right in with a faster beat! The PITB and Wharf Rat are great too! Just a great show all around! More Spring 77 please!!! Im taking my time with this box and I listen to the shows several times before I move on! 78 today! take care folks!!
November 23, 2015 - 7:01am

#1010

mojobrojo

Joined:
November 29, 2013

Thrashing a non-corporeal equine

This crazy USB debacle...... a few of us have had troubles over the years-- all eventually remedied-- with Dead / Rhino Customer Service but most interactions are good. They are also two companies known for putting out a quality product and being pretty Fan-centric and responsive.This is so far out of the norm-- so NOT the way they normally operate-- and that's had me puzzled. And trying to assemble this Puzzle is tough with several critical pieces missing. Then it dawned on me...... "Non-disclosure Agreement". That's the one thing that would explain the uncharacteristic behavior and lack of useful communication between Seller and Buyer. And if there is an "NDA" between Rhino and whoever they unwisely sub-contracted the Lightning Bolt out to, that agreement may well contain a clause that even the existence of an NDA cannot be disclosed to the public-- not an uncommon occurrence. I have no inside information-- I'm just speculating--but at least my suggestion lies within the realm of possibility AND points the finger away from those beleaguered CS Folks who can only tell us what they're allowed to tell us.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Zuck

Now THAT's a bucket list! ;) sorry,couldn't help it

Next Prediction

Barton Hall 5/8/77 will be announced as a single release on June 23, 2015.

Cornell

That's pretty specific-why June 23rd? Eventually, it should be released just for posterity. (My copy was always missing beginning of Minglewood anyway)

My Money Is Going Fast

Living in Australia and having to pay so much for the concert tickets was brutal and this was the last thing I needed...still got it though. Looks like there will a fair few more 50 hour work weeks.

David Lemieux Video

Any guesses as to how many more inaudible videos he'll continue releasing until he figures out you can shoot video indoors?

Windscreen

All I can say is....windscreen.:)

Release Video & Seaside Distractions

It used to annoy me, the seaside distractions, wind, how a tsetsi fly can yank his mind from a killer Scarlet>Fire to, "Hey, look, a boat and a sea gull" Now it just cracks me up. I actually look forward to them. We should make a drinking (or toking) game out of it somehow. It wouldn't be a release video without the outdoor distractions and C- production effort. It would be like the year they did Saturday Night - "not live." Remember that? Didn't work. Just my two cents.

Loving it!

Been a lurker but finally decided to join in. I cut my teeth on the Dead about 2 years ago and have been loving every minute of it. The music really is a conduit to whatever you want it to be. The fact that there are so many shows and so many ways to listen to them is mind blowing and I have a long way to go on my GD journey. This thread has been great, yes there has been bickering and some whining here and there, but overall, it's been a great teaching tool. I love when people mention show dates or versions of songs that they love, it gives me things to research and brings out the nuances of the music and differences in people's taste. Trying to find a copy of DP19 now, thanks for that info. There was no question for me, I had to have the box. I can't wait to see what this behemoth is going to look like already. Let's go Dave, show us some pics! "When you gotta shoot a video, you gotta shoot a video." And to add to the decade debate, I find myself gravitating to the energy and youthfulness of the 70's but there is something about Jerry's voice in the 89-90 run that I can't get out of my head. (FYI, the TOO box is worth the purchase.) The warble, the reaching...something magical is happening during the show's where he's on. I'm obsessed right now with Cold Rain and Snow from the 7/4/89 show. I thought it couldn't get any better until I recently heard his backup vocals on Desolation Row from the 7/19/89 show. Unbelievably haunting and beautiful. Can anyone point me to other versions of Row like this one?

Dave Lemieuz Videos

50??, He likes it.

Great choice of shows!

Fantastic! I´ve been listening to a handfull of the shows selected for the BIG BOX. They´re all great! I found them on archive.org, and I can only believe that they sound even better on CDs. There are many shows where Phil exels: Greek theatre, Parc des Expositions, and many others Being a bassplayer myself, it give me enormous pleasure to listen to them! If I could afford the box (and my wife would allow it: -When you´re gonna listen to them all? -You have everything else...hundreds of CDs!..&c) it I´d buy it immediatly.

Des Row

3-24-90, on Postcards of the Hanging

{{{hbob & vguy}}}

Thanks - I missed the heck out of the old Eleven crew...that and the black hole gravitational pull of The Box wouldn't let me permanently escape deadnet's orbit. RD - Re: the "precursor" series - after burning a few videos for posterity sake, I sold almost all releases on ebay for a handsome profit. Unfortunately, having requested a comparably aged spouse, I had to dump him at a deep discount as that 80's stuff just don't sell as well with deadheadz. peace, K

Trade 30 trips for Europe 72 + Dave's 1 & 2

Long time lurker... First post. I'm thinking of buying a second box with the intention of trading it for a Europe 72 trunk + Dave's 1&2 with bonus. I would consider other combinations like Europe all music + Dave's 2012 complete. Pm me if you have any interest and I can order the box to be shipped directly to you. Possibly interested in some road trips.

1970-04-15

Pretty happening... Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment ->

Miracle

I have all the other Boxsets even the Fillmore set. Unfortunately I wont be able to bite the bullet on this one this year. But if someone wants to Miracle me one Im sure I have some music I can trade. :)

Pig speech ... where is it?

Seth says: "I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing!I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality!" Dang! I would really like to hear this speech. A friend of mine swears that some choice banter that was on his 10/30 or 31/1970 tape didn't make it over to the digital realm. Perhaps that is the issue with 5/15/70?

@deadhead12

I just sent you a PM :)

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

that's all

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

anyone know how many left? I was goofing with my wife last night, told hear about the 30 trips box. I said to her, oh, didn't you say the charge on the credit card? it should show on the card any day... Her jaw dropped... again, I did not purchase, but was curious to her reaction... good thing i didn't pull the trigger! dog house for sure...

Sold out

It's sold out. Sold out Thurs. when u go to checkout will say " basket contains item sold out or " item cannot be paid with V .me

Sales

Hey Keithfan. They just dropped below 1900 left, so 4,600 out the door. They seem to be clicking along at 50 - 100 sold per day. So while it is not as fast as the E'72 box, it will sell out, probably end of June, early July. So that will give some folks more time to collect their coins. Rock on

Not sold out

Nope. I can still add to the cart. Must have been an error on Thursday.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I can. It's 700 bucks! That simple fact alone will keep lots of fans like myself from even considering purchasing this. Any way I shake it I just can't pay that much in one shot for a box set of cd's no matter how badly I want it.

Also Ridin that train

I'm with you, it's 700 bucks! Many of my buds were in shock when we heard that last week. I also can't believe that so many have actually sold. It's just out of reach for me but it sure will be something special. Spent all of Saturday night early Sunday revisiting the May 77 box. Loved reading the booklet & getting deep into the Alabama show.

Desolation Row always a treat to hear. Check out - 3.8.92

A few other killer ones 12.31.86 4.11.87 2.17.88 6.15.90 7.19.90

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

Me neither. Talking about Veneta. I am shocked that thing is still available. I jumped on it the first day it went on sale. I consider it a top 5 all time show, it's incredible! The slipcase packaging is very cool, I display it next to my Todd Mcfarlane Jerry Garcia "action" figure. :)

let's pool our money and buy lottery tickets

then after we win we can each buy a copy . So many good shows that deserve the official treatment, yet it is beyond my grubby little dollar colored fingers. Send me your dollars, and I'll play Lotto for you. Stoltzfus 169 Please Road Fatchoad, NE 0U812 cash only

Good news

Looks like the 50th Anniversary T is back in stock... I can afford that! ;)

PASS BIG TIME

IF I was to buy into this "thing" I would prefer to pick my own 30 Trips. That would mean so much more to me. If I say any more I would just get a bunch of people pissed off. So I would rather pick my own 30 trips and lets just leave it at that.

good news indeed

Maybe I will get that shirt for Father's day, Ha! My dog Sugaree would love that stoneware bowl to eat her chow from. Honestly if I am out and about and I see something cool Dead related I will usually buy it, but I rarely purchase stuff like that online. I only think about the music when it comes to dead.net

So would I James

...but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for THAT opportunity.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I figured with Venetta, at least maybe the reason was because it's commercially available in (I assume) large numbers. Does anyone know how many Sunshine Daydreams were pressed? Was it limited edition? I bought mine at Barnes and Noble in April of 2014, and that's actually what got the ball rolling on me spending 1000s of dollars on Grateful Dead music, as my collection went from about 20 to 200 in the past year. We shall see how 30 Trips does. I hope it sells out.... With regard to comments that it hasn't sold out because of high price - I think the litmus test was E72 - wouldn't it be the same buyer pool? Are we saying that E72 was significantly less expensive, or significantly better? Or has it just not been enough time? Anyone know how long it took E72 to sell out of the original trunk limited editions?

Is there Anyone Interested in?????

I will give you this $700 box set and you give me in return The complete Fillmore box with the bonus disk possibly some road Trips and some (I repeat SOME cash) Let me know. Thanks

I can believe that this thing hasn't sold out yet...

I have the idea that this box is not really attractive to scalpers, so they haven't been buying it up en masse. Most limited editions seem to sell on eBay for at least three times the original price, but how many people will be willing to fork out $2000 or more for this in 6 months or a years time? Not that many is my guess and I think the scalpers know this. Their other possible strategy is to sell individual shows but by doing that they risk getting stuck with a bunch of less popular shows. Furthermore, buying a whole bunch of these to sell later is going to cost a buttload of dollars with less certainty of a (quick) return on the outlay. Sure some copies will show up on eBay etc., but I would not expect to see as many of these as there are examples of (much) cheaper sold out limited editions.As I recall the Europe '72 box sold out in a matter of days, maybe 4 days. That certainly surprised everyone.

I know I'm a greedy cuss

but this would without doubt have given me cardiac arrest: 7/03 & 11/19/66 11/10 & 11/11/67 10/12 & 10/13/68 2/21 & 2/22/69 9/18 & 9/19/70 12/14 & 12/15/71 9/23 & 9/24/72 2/09 & 2/15/73 6/22 & 6/23/74 6/17 & 9/28/75 10/14 & 10/15/76 2/26 & 2/27/77 7/07 & 7/08/78 10/27 & 10/28/79 11/28 & 11/29/80 But what would one call it? Dead to die for? sheesh

A summer release?

There is something to be said for a mass market release before the Chicago/California shows. This seems like a great opportunity to release a show that fans could pick up in person. Or maybe they'll be selling copies of the shows fans just attended.

Europe 72 Box Sales

I am fairly certain that the limited edition box of Europe 72 sold out in less than 48 hours...

About those 17 shows after 1978

I have a little bit of a different perspective. I only got into the Dead a few years ago, and while I've never seen them, I love the music - we're talking non-stop tunes in my house. My uncle had hooked me up with a starter set of Ladies and Gentlemen, Go To Nassau, Dozin' at the Knick, and Hundred Year Hall. I didn't even know who was who in the band other then Jerry and the good looking other guy. I immediately stayed away from Dozin at the Knick because I sensed something different in the keyboards, and that something was Brent Mydland's sound. There is something very distinctive about his sound that I can't even describe, but it's not a classic grand piano sound like you get with Keith Godchaux's playing. Even today I can't tell you what the difference is in their equipment, but Brent's keyboard is very abrasive to me, and I mean his piano synthesizer, not the organ like sound that he sometimes uses in the early 80s (Hammond?). Anyway, I kept buying shows, Crimson White and Indigo was another, so was Closing of Winterland, and the pattern with the keyboards seemed to follow Brent Mydland, so I began to steer away from those CDs. I also don't care much for his voice. He does not sound good at all when he tries to harmonize with the others, and I was in chorus for 5 years in my youth, so a high level of discordant singing is very apparent to me. I guess if I had to sum up my position, it is as an unbiased historian. I've never seen the Grateful Dead, I wasn't around when they were making music (for the most part), so I am simply replaying recordings as an unbiased listener and observing that there is a huge discrepancy in the quality of songs when you compare a live performance of a song like let's say Cassidy or Jack Straw or Scarlet Begonias between the 70s and let's say Spring 90. What I hear in 1990 is a tired Jerry, an out of tune, gravelly voiced Brent, and these piano sounds that sound loud and out of tune with the rest of the music (and by out of tune, I mean it doesn't mix in well like Keith's Grand piano sound, it doesn't make a "whole" full sound, the audio frequencies do not mesh to create something bigger than the individual parts). So, I don't find myself putting on anything after 1978 too much. I try from time to time, in the interest of discovering something, or "getting past" my hang-up, but it always goes back to the fact that comparatively speaking, the music doesn't sound nearly as good after 1978 as it does before. I get some enjoyment out of songs that were new to the 80s era, such as Feel Like a Stranger, Alabama Getaway, etc, but that's about it. I can understand why some people like it - I think the people that like it were probably introduced to the Grateful Dead in the 80s or 90s, or followed them out of the 70s and into the 80s and 90s. I think these folks probably saw a lot of the shows or at least shared in them together with friends when the shows were originally played, and so there is an emotional investment that makes these shows more appealing. I even get the "pre-hiatus" people, as there was a tectonic shift in the music after the hiatus that is clearly the result of having two drummers - gone were the days when the Dead played Dark Star, and the improvisations always went so far!

new addition

Looks like they've got the new Best Of on vinyl.Good price too.:)

KeithFan2112 , QUACK QUACK Scarlet > Fire

Does 10.2.77 QUACK QUACK ?? Some solid nuggets going around 10.16.74 - Cumberland Blues ; Row Jimmy The Cumberland Blues is Killer.

Trunks

I believe E72 Trunks sold out within a few days could be wrong

Today's listening habit:

Sydney Bechet "The Best of" (Blue Note) 6/08/39 ("Summertime")James P. Johnson "Snowy Morning Blues" 6/08/44 Roland Kirk "Introducing" 6/07/60 Gigi Gryce "Rat Race Blues" 6/07/60 Grateful Dead Winterland 6/07/77 Set two Scarlet > Fire > Good Loving Bob Marley "Easy Skanking" 6/08/78 Boston Music Hall What?

"She never stumbles..

11.21.85 ,, Some incredible stuff here Crazy Fingers > Playing In The Band > She Belongs To Me > Drums

She's go no place to fall."

Agree.

Some dude on Reddit....

seems to think the mass-market release is going to be 8-4-76 w/ DVD. Anyone else hear this?

Do I...

Want to go there, yes I think I will. From what year will DP 15 be? I say 1976. HAPPY MONDAY DEADLAND, so glad it's (almost) over!!!! Peace

E72 Trunks

If I remember correctly, they were gone within four days.

I am also thinking 1976

i would be happy with a lot of offerings from this year, but a few standout.. 7.18.76 - 2nd set jam fest Might As Well Samson & Delilah Candyman Lazy Lightning-> Supplication-> Let It Grow-> Drums-> Let It Grow-> Wharf Rat-> The Other One-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Saint Stephen-> The Wheel-> The Other One-> Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia, Encore: Johnny B. Goode 1st set also worth checking out with a great choice of tunes

Orpheum run

Yeah, 7-18 is 24K.I would love to see the entire Orpheum 76 run get the box treatment, or at least compiled as a solid compilation with 7-18 as the centerpiece. I'm still thinking 73 for Dap 15....3-16 would fit the bill nicely.

Europe '72

http://www.dead.net/features/europe-72/holy-s-it’s-complete-europe-’72-box-over-60-discs Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

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