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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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July 31, 2015 - 7:01am

#5641

hbob1995

Joined:
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Shipping costs

As long as you live in the U.S., and place your order before 9/18, Boxzilla has free shipping. The only unfortunates who have to pay are the Heads outside the U.S. Rock on
July 31, 2015 - 6:37am

#5642

mbarilla

Joined:
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Agree , size and front door

For $50 shipping it should be bigger than Europe 72' Steamer Trunk.. $50 is a lot for shipping!! Spring 90 boxes are a decent size, but I would hope for similar design to Steamer Trunk, in regard to holding the discs. What's up with some updates about this box ? Sirius had some killer 1982 he last few days. Red Rocks and Manor Downs. He's Gone > Truckin from Red Rocks (7.28.82) killer transition at the end of He's Gone and jam out of Truckin is pretty sweet. Call me crazy, but I may like this more than the Scarlet Fire from Manor Downs
July 31, 2015 - 5:10am

#5643

comdata55

Joined:
June 8, 2015

Re: JimInMD

oh it is definitely all about the music in this ginormous box, i just really love the box designs they put out and love seeing all the extras. It's more of a, I know we're not getting this thing for another month and a half coupled with my impatience for it to get here already, lol. on another note, i finally sprung the news of the purchase to the wife over the weekend. she wasn't exactly brimming with joy but she also didn't say cancel the order, so i think that one goes in the win column. As far as the dimensions go, I hope I have to take the front door off the hinges when this thing arrives...or maybe hire a crane to hoist it up so it can be pulled in through the second floor double windows...
July 31, 2015 - 2:48am

#5644

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

Double Blind

Ziffle, try your listening test as a double-blind trial. That is, the person playing the excerpts doesn't know which resolution he is playing, and you don't know which one you are hearing. I'll bet your results are surprising. I did this exact test (using LP clips, as you suggest) at 16/44.1 and 24/96 and was pretty confident I could hear the difference. But - surprise - I was wrong about half the time, which is statistically the same as guessing. Make sure you listen to at least 50 A/B clips. More is better. Use good headphones, studio monitors, whatever you want. I'd be very curious to hear your results.
July 30, 2015 - 9:36pm

#5645

Ziffle

Joined:
July 21, 2015

CD set vs. USB

Dschian makes a good point. If you don't have (or aren't planning to purchase) a top quality playback system, the USB version will probably not provide anything beyond convenience, and might actually sound worse than the CDs. On the other hand, if you do have a fine playback set up (and you know who you are), most assuredly the 96kHz/24 bit USB version will take this set to another level. Try a simple test. Take a nicely mastered LP and record excerpts at different resolutions and word lengths. I have found that every increment up to 96k/24 makes a difference (although 88.2 to 96 at 24 bits is subtle). Some of the soundboards are DAT - 48kHz/16 bits. It is impossible for a 48kHz signal to sound the same downsampled to 44.1 kHz for CD. The original DAT will have more space between the instruments. Whether or not the originally analog recordings sound better is entirely a function of the mastering done. I presume top quality engineering here, in which case it will be much better. The point made about the need for a playback system that will handle a high res signal is well taken. Nonetheless, if I was a young person with a modest stereo, I would buy the USB version for the future. For those happy with a mid-fi system, the CD is likely a better choice.
July 30, 2015 - 9:02pm

#5646

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: comdata55

I wish we could see the box as well. Its the music inside that's important though. If memory serves, I think they had some significant box design modifications for E72 between the mock pictures on dead.net and the final box. I don't think we knew what it looked like until it showed up on the porch. So there must have been some changes along the way. Since this box has even more discs, I bet there was (is) a logistical battle between size and elegance. It has to fit through the front door after all, right. I hate to speculate, but it could be they don't have a finished product to show us yet. ..or Lemieux got into another scuffle with a surely seal after the last seaside chat and wants the bruises to heal before filming again. Pick your poison.
July 30, 2015 - 8:15pm

#5647

Dschian

Joined:
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CD box set versus Hi-Res option

I went for the box option. Here's why. While I've noticed that hi-res sources can sound better than cds- and I have about 200 hi-res discs in my collection, so I am definitely a believer- I believe that often much of the improvement comes from the advantage also provided by well-done re-mixes or re-masterings that are frequently done for hi-res releases. For example, the use of the Plangent Process for the HD Tracks Studio Albums package would help to improve the sound over prior releases, so that could help to confound listening differences between those tracks and earlier cd releases for the same albums that people have noted. Even apart from these kinds of changes to the source, improvements tend to be heard more from recordings that were otherwise particularly well-made to begin with. For example, a strong orchestral recording from 2005 or 2015 can sound remarkable on SACD, but I have a highly-regarded Universal (Japanese) SACD release of Regatta de Blanc and because of the limits of the source material, even with remastering the improvements are modest- certainly not a must-have difference. The musical content is awesome, but not the acoustical portrait. Crucially, nearly all of the 30 Trips shows are two-tracks (which tend to simplify the acoustic presentation a bit), and the earlier years obviously have variable and often more limited recording quality. While the Dead's official live releases typically sound great to my ears, that's compared to bootlegs or mp3 streams online. I haven't heard them, but for these reasons, comparing the HD Tracks multi-track studio releases of the Dead, or even Wake Up to Find Out (a multi-track from 1990) to two-tracks from 1969 or 1974 or even 1982 (hell, that one could be from a cassette!) is probably misleading. Maybe if you have an amazing audio system or amazing ears or are listening VERY closely, the difference will be significant, but otherwise, I think one is primarily getting convenience and hardly any sonic improvement from the hi-res set, while losing the book and other physical niceties of the box set. The only possible wild-card audio advantage here would be if in your case you have both a cd player a stand-alone DAC unit and the latter one sounds significantly better than the first. The USB set is a fine choice, but for convenience purposes and not primarily audio differences, I would venture.
July 30, 2015 - 7:17pm

#5648

Life may be sw…

Joined:
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What Jerry Would Really Say About The 50th Merchandise

I'm feeling great about the Band's 50th, loved Santa Clara, excited about the box set and all the other offerings! For those of limited means, check out Archive.org of course where there are tons of free soundboards the band lets stream free. If you have a bit more, get spotify which allows you to stream all Dick's Picks, Road Trips, All Europe 72, plus most studio and other live releases. Earlier in the thread people complained about the Bands money grab. For the cynical Dead Heads who project some nostalgic, Jerry would never allow this nonsense, recall that Jerry sold his artwork on ties for Petes sake! And for those who think the band/Jerry in the good old days wanted to give it All away and not live well, check out this quote from Garcia. Peace to all, and enjoy the celebration and the ever evolving grateful dead derivations! Fuck ‘people’s music’.” laughs Jerry Garcia from a reclining seat in the plush, wood-finished business offices of the band. (The comfortably expansive cluster of rooms are located in a streamlined San Rafael complex.) “I mean, I thought it was a dumb discussion even when it was the big thing awhile back to talk about how music should be free… that music belongs to the people and musicians rip them off. That kind of thing really irks me. “It’s like, in order to get so you can play music you have to sacrifice a lot of what would have been your normal life. You know what I mean? For lack of a better phrase, you have to pay the dues to get so you can play music. It’s not a thing you just do. If that were so, everybody’d be making their own music and there wouldn’t be professional musicians. There’d be no need for them. For someone to deny the fact that you spent a certain amount of your life working on some sort of discipline and learning how to play… that’s the rip-off. That’s the state versus the individual. Anytime someone comes down on artists and claims their work on any level, I think that’s pure bullshit. There’s been too many great musicians who died poor. People’s music… it just ain’t so.”
July 30, 2015 - 5:45pm

#5649

DaveStrang

Joined:
November 9, 2011

@ Clovett / Elvis' 'Can't Help Falling In Love With You'

Quite possibly the most beautiful love song ever written. That's a great "set-list" for your daughters. I'm happy to see folks starting their kids on music when they're so young. I think music for kids is as important as reading. You need to "feed" the ears as well as the eyes. It's not easy to find but I would suggest adding Rickie Lee Jones 'Rainbow Sleeves' to your kids lullaby "set-list". I'm a cantankerous 55 year old, but my eyes still tear up when I hear it. It's absolutely gorgeous. Kudos to you!
July 30, 2015 - 2:41pm

#5650

WharfratWhitey

Joined:
May 19, 2013

Old Man Not Down...

The Rhino deal...yeaaaahhh. This has been a match almost made in heaven if you're a guy like me that enjoys the nicely packaged, historical write ups, photos, top-shelfie Dead. But I offer you a sample from the WharfratWhitey Vault. A fairly well known ditty that goes like this: 'I wish they would do some general non-limited releases like Crimson, Truckin' Up, Ladies & Gentlemen, Fillmore East 1969, etc.' You guys remember this popular ditty of mine. Give me a reason to go to my local record store more than twice per year(RSD, RSDBF). Peace.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Zuck

Now THAT's a bucket list! ;) sorry,couldn't help it

Next Prediction

Barton Hall 5/8/77 will be announced as a single release on June 23, 2015.

Cornell

That's pretty specific-why June 23rd? Eventually, it should be released just for posterity. (My copy was always missing beginning of Minglewood anyway)

My Money Is Going Fast

Living in Australia and having to pay so much for the concert tickets was brutal and this was the last thing I needed...still got it though. Looks like there will a fair few more 50 hour work weeks.

David Lemieux Video

Any guesses as to how many more inaudible videos he'll continue releasing until he figures out you can shoot video indoors?

Windscreen

All I can say is....windscreen.:)

Release Video & Seaside Distractions

It used to annoy me, the seaside distractions, wind, how a tsetsi fly can yank his mind from a killer Scarlet>Fire to, "Hey, look, a boat and a sea gull" Now it just cracks me up. I actually look forward to them. We should make a drinking (or toking) game out of it somehow. It wouldn't be a release video without the outdoor distractions and C- production effort. It would be like the year they did Saturday Night - "not live." Remember that? Didn't work. Just my two cents.

Loving it!

Been a lurker but finally decided to join in. I cut my teeth on the Dead about 2 years ago and have been loving every minute of it. The music really is a conduit to whatever you want it to be. The fact that there are so many shows and so many ways to listen to them is mind blowing and I have a long way to go on my GD journey. This thread has been great, yes there has been bickering and some whining here and there, but overall, it's been a great teaching tool. I love when people mention show dates or versions of songs that they love, it gives me things to research and brings out the nuances of the music and differences in people's taste. Trying to find a copy of DP19 now, thanks for that info. There was no question for me, I had to have the box. I can't wait to see what this behemoth is going to look like already. Let's go Dave, show us some pics! "When you gotta shoot a video, you gotta shoot a video." And to add to the decade debate, I find myself gravitating to the energy and youthfulness of the 70's but there is something about Jerry's voice in the 89-90 run that I can't get out of my head. (FYI, the TOO box is worth the purchase.) The warble, the reaching...something magical is happening during the show's where he's on. I'm obsessed right now with Cold Rain and Snow from the 7/4/89 show. I thought it couldn't get any better until I recently heard his backup vocals on Desolation Row from the 7/19/89 show. Unbelievably haunting and beautiful. Can anyone point me to other versions of Row like this one?

Dave Lemieuz Videos

50??, He likes it.

Great choice of shows!

Fantastic! I´ve been listening to a handfull of the shows selected for the BIG BOX. They´re all great! I found them on archive.org, and I can only believe that they sound even better on CDs. There are many shows where Phil exels: Greek theatre, Parc des Expositions, and many others Being a bassplayer myself, it give me enormous pleasure to listen to them! If I could afford the box (and my wife would allow it: -When you´re gonna listen to them all? -You have everything else...hundreds of CDs!..&c) it I´d buy it immediatly.

Des Row

3-24-90, on Postcards of the Hanging

{{{hbob & vguy}}}

Thanks - I missed the heck out of the old Eleven crew...that and the black hole gravitational pull of The Box wouldn't let me permanently escape deadnet's orbit. RD - Re: the "precursor" series - after burning a few videos for posterity sake, I sold almost all releases on ebay for a handsome profit. Unfortunately, having requested a comparably aged spouse, I had to dump him at a deep discount as that 80's stuff just don't sell as well with deadheadz. peace, K

Trade 30 trips for Europe 72 + Dave's 1 & 2

Long time lurker... First post. I'm thinking of buying a second box with the intention of trading it for a Europe 72 trunk + Dave's 1&2 with bonus. I would consider other combinations like Europe all music + Dave's 2012 complete. Pm me if you have any interest and I can order the box to be shipped directly to you. Possibly interested in some road trips.

1970-04-15

Pretty happening... Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment ->

Miracle

I have all the other Boxsets even the Fillmore set. Unfortunately I wont be able to bite the bullet on this one this year. But if someone wants to Miracle me one Im sure I have some music I can trade. :)

Pig speech ... where is it?

Seth says: "I reviewed my LMA MP3 derived set of the complete Dead sets from 5/15/70 and can't find the Pigpen rant I have been angry about GDM removing during the Road Trips editing!I must have imagined it years before. It was so firmly entrenched in my mind that I never discovered it WASN'T THERE until you're disbelief made me check in with reality!" Dang! I would really like to hear this speech. A friend of mine swears that some choice banter that was on his 10/30 or 31/1970 tape didn't make it over to the digital realm. Perhaps that is the issue with 5/15/70?

@deadhead12

I just sent you a PM :)

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

that's all

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

anyone know how many left? I was goofing with my wife last night, told hear about the 30 trips box. I said to her, oh, didn't you say the charge on the credit card? it should show on the card any day... Her jaw dropped... again, I did not purchase, but was curious to her reaction... good thing i didn't pull the trigger! dog house for sure...

Sold out

It's sold out. Sold out Thurs. when u go to checkout will say " basket contains item sold out or " item cannot be paid with V .me

Sales

Hey Keithfan. They just dropped below 1900 left, so 4,600 out the door. They seem to be clicking along at 50 - 100 sold per day. So while it is not as fast as the E'72 box, it will sell out, probably end of June, early July. So that will give some folks more time to collect their coins. Rock on

Not sold out

Nope. I can still add to the cart. Must have been an error on Thursday.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I can. It's 700 bucks! That simple fact alone will keep lots of fans like myself from even considering purchasing this. Any way I shake it I just can't pay that much in one shot for a box set of cd's no matter how badly I want it.

Also Ridin that train

I'm with you, it's 700 bucks! Many of my buds were in shock when we heard that last week. I also can't believe that so many have actually sold. It's just out of reach for me but it sure will be something special. Spent all of Saturday night early Sunday revisiting the May 77 box. Loved reading the booklet & getting deep into the Alabama show.

Desolation Row always a treat to hear. Check out - 3.8.92

A few other killer ones 12.31.86 4.11.87 2.17.88 6.15.90 7.19.90

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

Me neither. Talking about Veneta. I am shocked that thing is still available. I jumped on it the first day it went on sale. I consider it a top 5 all time show, it's incredible! The slipcase packaging is very cool, I display it next to my Todd Mcfarlane Jerry Garcia "action" figure. :)

let's pool our money and buy lottery tickets

then after we win we can each buy a copy . So many good shows that deserve the official treatment, yet it is beyond my grubby little dollar colored fingers. Send me your dollars, and I'll play Lotto for you. Stoltzfus 169 Please Road Fatchoad, NE 0U812 cash only

Good news

Looks like the 50th Anniversary T is back in stock... I can afford that! ;)

PASS BIG TIME

IF I was to buy into this "thing" I would prefer to pick my own 30 Trips. That would mean so much more to me. If I say any more I would just get a bunch of people pissed off. So I would rather pick my own 30 trips and lets just leave it at that.

good news indeed

Maybe I will get that shirt for Father's day, Ha! My dog Sugaree would love that stoneware bowl to eat her chow from. Honestly if I am out and about and I see something cool Dead related I will usually buy it, but I rarely purchase stuff like that online. I only think about the music when it comes to dead.net

So would I James

...but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for THAT opportunity.

I can't believe this thing hasn't sold out yet

I figured with Venetta, at least maybe the reason was because it's commercially available in (I assume) large numbers. Does anyone know how many Sunshine Daydreams were pressed? Was it limited edition? I bought mine at Barnes and Noble in April of 2014, and that's actually what got the ball rolling on me spending 1000s of dollars on Grateful Dead music, as my collection went from about 20 to 200 in the past year. We shall see how 30 Trips does. I hope it sells out.... With regard to comments that it hasn't sold out because of high price - I think the litmus test was E72 - wouldn't it be the same buyer pool? Are we saying that E72 was significantly less expensive, or significantly better? Or has it just not been enough time? Anyone know how long it took E72 to sell out of the original trunk limited editions?

Is there Anyone Interested in?????

I will give you this $700 box set and you give me in return The complete Fillmore box with the bonus disk possibly some road Trips and some (I repeat SOME cash) Let me know. Thanks

I can believe that this thing hasn't sold out yet...

I have the idea that this box is not really attractive to scalpers, so they haven't been buying it up en masse. Most limited editions seem to sell on eBay for at least three times the original price, but how many people will be willing to fork out $2000 or more for this in 6 months or a years time? Not that many is my guess and I think the scalpers know this. Their other possible strategy is to sell individual shows but by doing that they risk getting stuck with a bunch of less popular shows. Furthermore, buying a whole bunch of these to sell later is going to cost a buttload of dollars with less certainty of a (quick) return on the outlay. Sure some copies will show up on eBay etc., but I would not expect to see as many of these as there are examples of (much) cheaper sold out limited editions.As I recall the Europe '72 box sold out in a matter of days, maybe 4 days. That certainly surprised everyone.

I know I'm a greedy cuss

but this would without doubt have given me cardiac arrest: 7/03 & 11/19/66 11/10 & 11/11/67 10/12 & 10/13/68 2/21 & 2/22/69 9/18 & 9/19/70 12/14 & 12/15/71 9/23 & 9/24/72 2/09 & 2/15/73 6/22 & 6/23/74 6/17 & 9/28/75 10/14 & 10/15/76 2/26 & 2/27/77 7/07 & 7/08/78 10/27 & 10/28/79 11/28 & 11/29/80 But what would one call it? Dead to die for? sheesh

A summer release?

There is something to be said for a mass market release before the Chicago/California shows. This seems like a great opportunity to release a show that fans could pick up in person. Or maybe they'll be selling copies of the shows fans just attended.

Europe 72 Box Sales

I am fairly certain that the limited edition box of Europe 72 sold out in less than 48 hours...

About those 17 shows after 1978

I have a little bit of a different perspective. I only got into the Dead a few years ago, and while I've never seen them, I love the music - we're talking non-stop tunes in my house. My uncle had hooked me up with a starter set of Ladies and Gentlemen, Go To Nassau, Dozin' at the Knick, and Hundred Year Hall. I didn't even know who was who in the band other then Jerry and the good looking other guy. I immediately stayed away from Dozin at the Knick because I sensed something different in the keyboards, and that something was Brent Mydland's sound. There is something very distinctive about his sound that I can't even describe, but it's not a classic grand piano sound like you get with Keith Godchaux's playing. Even today I can't tell you what the difference is in their equipment, but Brent's keyboard is very abrasive to me, and I mean his piano synthesizer, not the organ like sound that he sometimes uses in the early 80s (Hammond?). Anyway, I kept buying shows, Crimson White and Indigo was another, so was Closing of Winterland, and the pattern with the keyboards seemed to follow Brent Mydland, so I began to steer away from those CDs. I also don't care much for his voice. He does not sound good at all when he tries to harmonize with the others, and I was in chorus for 5 years in my youth, so a high level of discordant singing is very apparent to me. I guess if I had to sum up my position, it is as an unbiased historian. I've never seen the Grateful Dead, I wasn't around when they were making music (for the most part), so I am simply replaying recordings as an unbiased listener and observing that there is a huge discrepancy in the quality of songs when you compare a live performance of a song like let's say Cassidy or Jack Straw or Scarlet Begonias between the 70s and let's say Spring 90. What I hear in 1990 is a tired Jerry, an out of tune, gravelly voiced Brent, and these piano sounds that sound loud and out of tune with the rest of the music (and by out of tune, I mean it doesn't mix in well like Keith's Grand piano sound, it doesn't make a "whole" full sound, the audio frequencies do not mesh to create something bigger than the individual parts). So, I don't find myself putting on anything after 1978 too much. I try from time to time, in the interest of discovering something, or "getting past" my hang-up, but it always goes back to the fact that comparatively speaking, the music doesn't sound nearly as good after 1978 as it does before. I get some enjoyment out of songs that were new to the 80s era, such as Feel Like a Stranger, Alabama Getaway, etc, but that's about it. I can understand why some people like it - I think the people that like it were probably introduced to the Grateful Dead in the 80s or 90s, or followed them out of the 70s and into the 80s and 90s. I think these folks probably saw a lot of the shows or at least shared in them together with friends when the shows were originally played, and so there is an emotional investment that makes these shows more appealing. I even get the "pre-hiatus" people, as there was a tectonic shift in the music after the hiatus that is clearly the result of having two drummers - gone were the days when the Dead played Dark Star, and the improvisations always went so far!

new addition

Looks like they've got the new Best Of on vinyl.Good price too.:)

KeithFan2112 , QUACK QUACK Scarlet > Fire

Does 10.2.77 QUACK QUACK ?? Some solid nuggets going around 10.16.74 - Cumberland Blues ; Row Jimmy The Cumberland Blues is Killer.

Trunks

I believe E72 Trunks sold out within a few days could be wrong

Today's listening habit:

Sydney Bechet "The Best of" (Blue Note) 6/08/39 ("Summertime")James P. Johnson "Snowy Morning Blues" 6/08/44 Roland Kirk "Introducing" 6/07/60 Gigi Gryce "Rat Race Blues" 6/07/60 Grateful Dead Winterland 6/07/77 Set two Scarlet > Fire > Good Loving Bob Marley "Easy Skanking" 6/08/78 Boston Music Hall What?

"She never stumbles..

11.21.85 ,, Some incredible stuff here Crazy Fingers > Playing In The Band > She Belongs To Me > Drums

She's go no place to fall."

Agree.

Some dude on Reddit....

seems to think the mass-market release is going to be 8-4-76 w/ DVD. Anyone else hear this?

Do I...

Want to go there, yes I think I will. From what year will DP 15 be? I say 1976. HAPPY MONDAY DEADLAND, so glad it's (almost) over!!!! Peace

E72 Trunks

If I remember correctly, they were gone within four days.

I am also thinking 1976

i would be happy with a lot of offerings from this year, but a few standout.. 7.18.76 - 2nd set jam fest Might As Well Samson & Delilah Candyman Lazy Lightning-> Supplication-> Let It Grow-> Drums-> Let It Grow-> Wharf Rat-> The Other One-> Saint Stephen-> Not Fade Away-> Saint Stephen-> The Wheel-> The Other One-> Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia, Encore: Johnny B. Goode 1st set also worth checking out with a great choice of tunes

Orpheum run

Yeah, 7-18 is 24K.I would love to see the entire Orpheum 76 run get the box treatment, or at least compiled as a solid compilation with 7-18 as the centerpiece. I'm still thinking 73 for Dap 15....3-16 would fit the bill nicely.

Europe '72

http://www.dead.net/features/europe-72/holy-s-it’s-complete-europe-’72-box-over-60-discs Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

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