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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    ...and thus I shall find salvation. St. Stephen queued up, Estimated Prophets to follow! Thanks for the compassionate understanding of my festering morality question. Man it feels good to come clean after all these years. I suppose if that is indeed my biggest offense things will prolly turn out alright. Sixtus
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    Play 6 St. Stephens and 4 Estimated Prophets, this shall be your penance...
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    Dammit sixtus - I knew it was you, I knew it was you all along! I want my tape back you rat bastard! I leant a box of tapes to a friend back in high school.. it had several of my choice possessions, one being a crisp '76 Chicago Auditorium tape with a wonderful Mission in the Rain. The bastard never returned the box. (you know who you are, Mark L.). I didn't listen to a Mission in the Rain that good until I discovered LMA a little more than a decade ago. That was in the pre-car, pre-job lawn cutting days, so a box of tapes actually took some scratch to save up for. I knew the guy.. much like a coke-head who owes you money.. he simply started avoiding me. I guess we can laugh at it now.
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    ..at least it was only your pinky finger. Must have been some high gen. aud's.
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    Yeah, if the worst offense is swiping a bootleg tape from someone, you're probably ahead of most of us. Awhile ago, a friend lent me a dozen or so tapes- He was by far my greatest connection to high quality recordings. On my way to the car with the tapes, while it was raining, I dropped the box in the parking lot. The tapes sprawled out on the ground in the rain. To this day, he keeps my pinky finger in a jar by his bedside table, as a warning and reminder to fellow travelers. I was always like, who needs the pinky finger anyways. Actually, the tapes mostly survived the incident, unfortunate though it was.
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    So for the longest time I’ve sat on this story, and when I think back on it, I of course realize that it goes against essentially every grain of goodness within the GD’s community, but on the flip side, I was pretty young, uninformed (obviously) and totally naive. But, since this topic has now miraculously surfaced on this awesome board, I will now relay the story of how I acquired the Cornell show on Maxell XLII, many many years ago. I was 14 years old, and hitch hiking, for the first time ever, with my older brother on Martha’s Vineyard during summer time, just looking for someone nice to pick us up and bring us somewhere, anywhere there may be action. We weren’t at all familiar with the island, but for those who may be, there is this little community of homes that look like gingerbread houses – that’s the only way I can describe it – very ornate outsides, with lots of colors, steep roofs, etc. Well, our ride dropped us in the vicinity of this little community so we began wandering around. Wouldn’t you know, one house was having a party, and some guys, older than us, invited us up and handed us beers. And, you guessed it, GD was playing. At the time, I was still totally naive to anything beyond a few albums like Live Dead and Europe 72 as well as of course their studio stuff. But what I heard coming from their boombox was pristine GD, and clearly in a live setting as they were going nutty and just jamming like mad. I recall looking at the small pile of tapes on the floor, and the one that was playing was indeed Cornell ’77. I was awestruck. As the night went on, and I consumed more beers, I feel like I must have gotten a little more confident. Because I clearly recall that on our way out of that house party, I stopped and took the Cornell Tape – the 2nd Set – and secretly reveled in the amazing find I just acquired, albeit via an essentially & completely immoral path. Nonetheless, I came back home and immediately shared it with my couple of buddies who also happened to like the Dead. We were all just blown away by this recording – not only what was being played, but of course the quality was like listening to a CD. From the moment I acquired this tape, despite the questionable method, I have never looked back and have been on the quest to get as much of this stuff as I could. Looking back on it, I am not at all proud of the fact I ‘permanently borrowed’ someone’s killer copy, maybe their only copy back then, of this fabled show. But what I also realize is that it was a personal turning point for me in the history and lore of the wake that this band created, and for that I am incredibly thankful. And, furthermore, now that I am older, I make it a point to share share share and turn people on to this thing I was so lucky to have stumbled upon even when I didn’t understand the significance of the stumble. I hope I can be forgiven by this wonderful community, as this has been something I have always wanted to get off my chest and hope I can now move past it....so I ask, does this make me a bad person? Sixtus, shamefully
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    Did I mention I hate Apple? I literally just finished ripping all the CD's from Boxzilla. Low and behold.. my last ITunes 'update' changed my settings to lossy from lossless (ALAC). Fortunately.. its just the Box and Dave's 16 that are affected.. Unfortunately.. I had a good bit of time into this. Did I mention I hate Apple? Sorry.. but besides overpriced products they have become sucky the last couple years... Time to reburn and set up some Physical Therapy for the carpal tunnel I will surely develop after importing all this stuff and getting it 'exactly perfect.' Did I mention Apple sucks?
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    Thanks for the interesting insights into the tape trading community. Perhaps there is still some effort to prevent some music from circulating. It's been years since the Archive allowed soundboards to be downloaded. And there's the recent example of the previously missing soundboard copy to 3/26/72, which then appeared on the Archive just a few days after 3/26/72 was officially released as DP14. Though these days, with torrent sites, and the ease with which digital media is shared and spread, any attempts to prevent the spread of music seems largely symbolic. Then again, I really don't know much about these things.
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    ...and noticed that there's free shipping on orders over $75 for the month of November.
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    The gap method of marking tapes was usually not for GD tapes and started with Mike Millard who would create drop outs during different songs for every copy he made and kept notes of the "flaws" to tell who allowed his tape into circulation. This was so he could blacklist them from the southern California trading circles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Millard The Latvala "tags" were usually an additional cassette gen before the DAT, their lineage would be SBD MR>C1>DAT. Eaton would add a 2nd cassette gen to his seeds before allowing them to slip into circulation, these would be SBD MR> C1>DAT> C, he would seed these on a GD trading group called section 9 on Compuserve. None of the reel transfers done by Eaton have ever slipped into circulation and are in the vault. These are the source of the 1972 Academy of Music shows. When Dick died GDM went after the people that had copies of Dick's SBD MR>C1>DATs and threatened legal action if the tapes made it into circulation. I know one person that John Cutler, who he didn't know, called and demanded the return of the DATs he had gotten from Dick, who used to send out copies to friends on future potential Dick's Picks. These recordings are known as the Dick Leaks and considered "hush tapes" not to be traded publicly. The Betty tapes in circulation come from the "Unindicted Conspirators" who shared the PCMs made from the reels on DAT in the late 1980's and became the WBOTB project in the late 1990's. They have a lineage of SDB MR>PCM>DAT Eaton finally started sharing his DATs, not the Betty's reels he transferred though, via Charlie Miller in the last 10 years. In the 1990's there was a more GD related type of hoarding that involved allowing shows circulating in DAT to be shared on cassettes, which was degrading the quality of the recordings in circulation by letting cassette generations into the lineage. These people were the "gene pool" crowd and would only trade with people who had the expensive DAT equipment and shut off people that made cassettes for friends and tainted the gene pool. It was these elitists that also fought against allowing the DATs to be transferred to CDs, using the same excuse of tainting the gene pool.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 15:15

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yea.. but of all the fall '73 horn shows, 9/11 is by far the best. And there isn't really that much annoyance from the horns (comparatively), especially on Let it Grow. This could be the only show where it worked. The Playin', DS and MDew make this rise to the top like cream. Its a great show, Phil is heavy in the mix. Supposedly Hornsby's first show, so in a sense, changed GD history. My copy cuts out during Morning Dew though, and has an audience patch. I wonder what the copy sounds like that's 5 floors down under the vault? 6/10 and 6/30 are killer also. Can't make a bad pick between the bunch. ..also, for what its worth, I that Duke Ellington box looks really good. If I had more scratch, I'd pick it up.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 15:46

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I can put 1795 units in my cart but not 1796. I'm thinking this is going to be a stretch for them to sell off the rest. Presumably, all of the die-hards have ordered theirs already, so a $750 box set now has to be sold to 1795 casual fans. I'm not so sure that's going to happen before the Shipping date. What is going to piss me off is if they reduce the price in an effort to sell the remainders. I can't imagine the turmoil that would create on this forum. Nah, they wouldn't do that....would they? Probably not until after 9/18 (otherwise everyone would cancel their order, right?) I wonder how many of the sales are illegitimate, due to that computer glitch last week. Let's see, even at 4705 units sold, that means they've earned $3,293,500 (th-that's 3 million son). Just ship this shit already, I need a fix. I'm pissed there are no Help on the Way / Slipknot! / Franklin's Towers in any of the 70s setlists. What a jip. And not one show from the month of January, August, or December! Way too many other months represented in this set, but we January, August, and December lovers have to go f@#k ourselves. And if you count Dave's Picks, the January / August drought continues - so we can go double-f@#k ourselves. If you go back as far as Road Trips, there are still no January releases, so we January lovers are given the proverbial triple-go-f@#k ourselves. Make that a quadruple - Dick's Picks features nothing from January either - DID THIS BAND EVEN PLAY IN JANUARY?!? Ah yes, it looks like I have to delve into the Download Series all the way back to almost the 1960s to get my fix of January Dead, with Volume 2, clocking in at 1/18/70 and one of the shows where it all started - Live Dead The Eleven and Lovelight from 1/26/69.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 15:49

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Dave 15 and 16 will be Fall 69' and 76'. Just one man's opinion. I do agree; maybe 73'. My guess would be 6/10/73, but that could be released much like 8/27/72. Oh, we are blessed! Minas, how dare you stir up controversy! How would you feel if you were born in January? You might just think they were picking on you. Bet you were born in September. Smile, smile, smile! Sam T
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Submitted by fishcane on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 16:18

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Sure you have to wait a couple extra tunes for them to get to the Franklins but its worth the wait!
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Submitted by mbarilla on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:12

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In my skull splitter spindle set, a portion 9.11.73 was included. It rocks. JimInMD, I will have to revisit the Morning Dew,, but I do not remember any cuts or patches.. As expected, 6.10.73 portion was just on Sirius. Eyes through HCS. And a teaser for tomorrow will be music recorded in the Aloha State from 1970.. Get your popcorn ready for this one.. Could be some uncirculated material. Or another healthy dose of a 1970, That's It For The Other One
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:18

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The Duke. Edward Kennedy Ellington and His Orchestra. 40 CD box set on History label. Greatest bargain in CD history.
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:29

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The Duke:Complete Works 1924-1947 now over $200 used on Amazon. I bought it years ago for almost nothing. Sorry.
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Submitted by Coral Sands Below on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:39

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…I learned the hard way on the E72 Box and couldn't let the 30 Trips box pass by… I placed my order last Thursday. It went right through and it took about 2 min to receive my confirmation email. $700 is no small expenditure. And this is no small offering. But for less than $9/disc, there is some outrageously good material in this set. The Shrine Expo was my first bootleg, and if the sound quality of the Morning Dew sample is indicative of the rest, this show alone is a treasure. The shows for 68, 69, 70 and 71 are all powerful and have many, many moments of the rolling thunder that these years are famous for (check them out on Archive). The other shows are all well documented in many online forums and, while opinions will always be what they are, there is a lot to like in each one of these shows. And considering that Jeffery Norman and associates will have had their hand in editing and adjusting the sound from the source recordings for all 30 shows, I’m looking forward fidelity that’s up to his high standards. David Limeaux was on Sirius this morning w/ Gans & Lambert. He explained, it some depth, the cost structure of these releases. Things like artist royalties and production cost are huge parts of the price. At one point he indicated that, after all the costs, the releases are slightly better than breakeven for Rhino. He also talked about how they learned from the E72 release and also how long it took to sell out the Spring 90 sets. I trust that he would not misrepresent or mischaracterize these things, and it helped explain some of the questions on things like the limited offer and releasing individual shows. Form many of us, Grateful Dead music is in our sonic DNA and resonates like no other. I love the Grateful Dead and their music. And I’ve accepted that the Grateful Dead are gone and that their recorded music is now part of a multi-million dollar business transaction. Rhino paid a handsome price for its rights to the vault- we can be sure they will try to sell as much as they can however they can. And I personally hope they continue to do so. I don’t always like every release that comes out (or the way that some of them have come out). While I have most of the releases, there are some I chose not to buy. Are there other shows I wish I saw in the 30 Trips box set? Of course!! I’d love to have seen 11/5/85 (shakedown, supplication, tom thumb), or 9/2/68 (the raspberry farm!), or 3/26/87 (bird song, desolation, china-rider) and a slew of others. But they will come. For now, I’m looking forward to sitting outside on a fine autumn day in September… Santa Clara, Chicago, and all the other hype will be over, and I will be cranking up the volume on the on the sonic journey that this box set memorializes. And loving THE GRATEFUL GODDAMNED DEAD!!!!
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 17:52

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The Duke and the Dead have a lot in common in a way, not musically of course. Stable core line up with some changes over the years. Constantly touring. Basic core set list used as jamming vehicles. Unseen songwriting genius (Billy Strayhorn-Robert Hunter). Any Dead Head not familiar with the Duke should at least check him out.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 18:07

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I've responded to half a dozen people who posted that they wanted to trade for some of the individual copies of 30 Trips, since they can't afford it. Three of them (50%) didn't actually have anything they were willing to give up, and offered to burn me copies of what I was asking for in return for the 30 Trips CDs I am not interested in. Really? I'm trying to help YOU, not the other way around. Please don't waste people's time and ask for a trade when you don't really have anything you want to give up. The nerve of some people.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 18:10

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mbarilla, in the liner notes in Dave's 6, Dave references the reels returned by Janet Cohen which completed 4 fantastic shows from late 69/early 70. Two of those shows were represented on Dave's 6 and a third was Dave's 10. This leaves a fourth show. Dave says there is a show which has a fantastic Dark Star with Phil providing "unusual" noises, and the show contains great versions of Morning Dew, The Eleven, and That's It For the Other One; plus much more! Dave 10 contained none of these tunes. The bonus disc has 3 of the 4 songs above mentioned, but no Morning Dew and of course, not a completed show. My guess based on that setlist the pick would be from Fall 69'. However, wonder since we got Da 10 last year, they might wait till the first or second release for next year to bring it out from the mystical caverns of the vault.Check out the notes and see if you come up with the same conclusion. Now the question is will an archive setlist contain all 4 of these songs, or will some of the material be unknown because of a missing reel or reels? Sam T
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 19:02

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Almost every show in this new box is essential. The choices from '95, '93, '90, '83, '78, '76 and '71 may or may not be considered "under the radar", yet as a set on a whole, every piece of this puzzle belongs together. Dave not only knocked this grand slam of a release out of the ball park, he also got the hat trick. 30 Trips is a stroke of genius!
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 19:19

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Courtesy of the Wayback Machine, these 5 shows should be added to the previously posted list: 1/3/70 Fillmore East- New York, NY 1/2/72 Winterland Arena- San Francisco, CA 8/30/80 The Spectrum Philadelphia, PA 8/30/83 Hult Center- Eugene, OR 12/27/89 Oakland Coliseum- Oakland, CA https://web.archive.org/web/20111028071605/http://www.dead.net/
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 19:37

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Could not find a show from late 69/early 70 that contained dew, DS, TOO, and Eleven. There is 1/2/70, but no Dew. Some patching, but looks like a pretty complete soundboard. Also, very "unusual" DS, but I think in a good way. Some of those early 70's, two show performances are possibilities. Hmmmmm
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 19:48

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mhammond, I agree about the Duke/Dead comparison. The paring of composition and improv.. add in touch of django reinardt, Bill Monroe, Owleys finest and you have the Greatful Dead. Coral Sands, great post and well written. I missed the Golden Road this week.. I am happy they continue to mine these (sometimes) old tapes and put some decent effort into restoring them and bringing them into production. Theres a lot of us that are thankful (edit: grateful)
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Submitted by brokedowndude on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 19:48

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All this talk about smoking hot late 73 shows has me thinking about here comes sunshine.... I always thought that song was just pure magic and one of Garcia's best jam vehicles.... Which is why I can't figure out why it was dropped from the rotation I believe by 74....does anyone know why this was? And why they took it out of the lineup? Only to bring it back in 93.... A damn shame..... Maybe a question for Dave or David or Gary..... Anybody know?
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Submitted by iGrateful on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:03

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Agreed....had a Madison WI 73 tape with HCS and that was always my benchmark. I hope the box has one to measure up, im sure it will...I must say, as ive said in other posts, 80 discd and not one pig pen Smokestack Lightning. ..same for E72 Trunk. ..no Smokestack Lightning Disappointing to say the least... My first MSG show 3/10/81 had a tremendous Smokestack tease ...garden went wild.... but just a tease... Wish that one was included, but nonetheless, im still seeking a Smokestack to rival Bears Choice. Any suggestions???? iGrateful
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:15

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There's some history on it in the comments section of the GD Blogspot (see link below). The reviewer also does a decent job of highlighting some of the better versions. http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2011/05/here-comes-sunshine-guest-post.h… There's a link to a youtube video with Steven Marcus (GDTS) and David Gans doing the filming. At about 18:20 into it Garcia talks about HCS a bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JOhtcJCjXA Sounds like it was ever-evolving and just never got nailed down. Its certainly likable as is most of '73. Hope that helps. __________________ One Edit: IGrateful - funny you should bring up Smokestack Lightin' in the same conversation, both were great songs where the Dead pulled off great performances.. but only a handful of times each. (actually, smokestack was played a good bit in the later years with Bobby on vocals, but that's not what your talking about). Whats up with that?
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Submitted by dantian on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 20:23

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For those who heard the 6/10/73 Eyes on Sirius (I don't have Sirius), how did it sound compared to the best SBD of that show you've heard? Was there a short drop out/patch right before the 3rd verse of lyrics, at about 6:55ish? This is my favorite Eyes, one of my favorite shows (Allman flavored NFA, anyone?), one of my oldest friends, and I would be thrilled if/when it gets released.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 21:10

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Just re-listened to the Eyes played on Sirius (they buffer the last few hours on the Internet Version). I did not notice any dropout, unless was super subtle. Nice mellow jazzy version. Funny, I just read Kruetzmann's comments on this show today in his book.
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Submitted by dantian on Tue, 06/09/2015 - 22:14

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Nice, mellow jazzy version, that's what I love about it. 6/30 is another in the same vein. What did Kreutzmann say about this show?
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:08

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2/19/71 has a nice one, and a great Easy Wind which has a "i can't do it no more rap" and seems to be one of the last Easy Winds.
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Submitted by boblopes on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 04:49

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We've got 30 shows and roughly 16 weeks of reveals. I'd like to hear a show by show chat about the merits of these shows from the vault master!!! Like my idea of the chats from upcoming secure locations, but rather have the wind than no video at all... Can't wait for the HCS from the 1973 offering. Glad to see it got promoted to the 4cd release... Great hook for someone tasting live Grateful Dead for the first time... Thanks for the link to the vhs recording of the interview, will watch it tonight... Love the spacey background...
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 04:55

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Spoiler Alert - I wont say much for people reading the book.. but to answer your question.. He was talking about playing with the Allman Bros. He talked about Watkins Glenn (Great sound check, but the main show was not their best). Then he spoke fondly of 6/9/73 and 6/10/73 as a sort of redemption for that. He said they were playing well, played a bunch of their newer material that he was fond of in a way made up for the main Watkins Glenn show. Apparently somewhat of a rivalry existed. They were good shows, were talking about them 42 years later after all. Thanks for bringing that up. Made me re-listen.
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 05:28

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Yes, Houston this is Space Your Face, we're having a Font problem...Please engage the font Houston!
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:30

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I can see the dust on my computer screen now. I thought it was 'stars' at first!-edit- oh, wait...glad I didn't revert to the sandpaper option. :-)
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Submitted by brokedowndude on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 07:13

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Very cool.... Is there anything more fun than listening, watching a jerry Garcia interview??? Does anyone get the feeling that although he would NEVER say it, jerry always kinda knew he was magnetic? And usually the most intelligent person in the room..... I think so..... And I think he enjoyed it..... Love that guy..... Hey Jim, how funny that Garcia thought they only played HCS a "couple of times?" And that he said it didn't really work.....wtf?? Hilarious.....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 07:58

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Wilfred, me too. I have been trying for hours to get that dust off my screen.. Damp cloth (nothing), Windex (a little better), sandpaper seems to be doing the trick though... Brokedown, yea.. I got a kick out of that too. I liked the his comments in general on songs they don't do anymore (Viola [wow, that would have been something] and others). Dantian got me to re-listen to the fragment of 6/10/73 w/ Eyes>Stella Blue, Big River and Here Comes Sunshine. I've listened to that show no fewer than a dozen times over the last decade or two. What a loose, jazzy, funball of a show that is and that segment shines. Fun and creative.
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Submitted by deadegad on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:02

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HCS? Dear Jerry . ... It works! My favorite HCS was done by Furthur (Saw GD many times). Futhur opened with HCS on a what was a gloomy, rainy, humid Summer evening at PNC Arts Center N.J.. PNC is an ampitheater built into the earth with a round cement top roof but with open air-sides. As already noted, it was a gray rainy day but just before Furthur took the stage the weather started clearing up and the sun was burning through the clouds from the west and shining down between the cement roof and built-into-ground amphitheater. It was moive-like perfetc. I think that they probably decided to open with an un-setlisted HCS due to the perfect setting. This was a very, very, enthusiastically loud crowd which prompted Phil to comment on on that enthusiasm. I recall Bob was said that the Philadelphia, N.J. through NYC-Long Island area as being Dead-Belt country where some of their largest followings could be found. That Furhtur show holds fond memories. I scored two front row tickets for that one from GDSTOO( Thank You.). God Bless Bobby. Heal, brother, heal.
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Submitted by stoltzfus on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:03

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pranksters at play!
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:29

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I might try that sandpaper trick. First I'm going to make sure there's nothing wrong inside the computer, though. Here's a quick and easy check you can do yourself: What you do is take the cover off, and look for any loose parts inside. Like those funny little cylinder shaped doodads sticking up out of the big board? Using pliers, wiggle them back and forth, and if they're loose, take a small hammer and gently tap them back in. Computer maintenance 101.
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Submitted by Oxford 88 on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 08:45

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Everyone who ever talked about Jerry spoke of his force... He was funny and witty, sharp and incredibly well read and traveled. My favorite instance of this is in Festival Express. Rick Danko, a pretty charismatic guy in his own right literally fawns over Jerry. I love how Jerry ends up jamming with each genre in their own cars on the train. The guy loved to play and jam, no doubt. He fought the boredom of the road by refusing to play anything the same way twice. He obviously loved guests on stage- a new sound, new angles to explore. He loved giving up the lead role (at times, it seemed to me that he had more fun singing back-up on Promised Land or Samson than many of his own tunes). Things got really rough when Jerry wasn't having fun anymore.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:05

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The counter no longer works! So any one on the fence has to be careful now since you can no longer see how many are left until the sell out, which you know is coming. Rock on
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 09:51

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claney, thanks for the 2001 reference. Kubrick lives on. Dantian - great PC fix. I tried it and my pc is screaming fast now. I did notice one unintended side-effect though, it keeps bouncing me out of Dead.Net and drops me into the Metallica site. Oh well, I will get used to it.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:11

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Can we switch it back? I kinda liked it.:)
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 10:45

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Date of show is 7/21/72. There are 8 extra songs, without a date: GDTRFB, NFA, You Win Again, Bird Song, Playing, Morning Dew, UJB, One More Saturday. Anybody know the date? Thanks Regarding Duke, for the 20s & 30s I prefer the Columbia recordings over RCA's, in general. When RCA first issued "The Blanton-Webster Years" on CD, the mastering was horrible compared to the vinyl issue(still thinking the best way to hear it is on the original 78s...)
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Submitted by ToddWCorey70 on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:14

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Samthardman, 12/11/69 has all four songs, and 3 of the 4 were on the DaP 2014 bonus disc (with DaP 10). True, the Dew was not on the CD, but it was played at the show, so I think this is the mysterious "4th show", though not released in its entirety.
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:18

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Thanks for the links, got the answer and more...Love the Download series!
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 11:24

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Is a tent-pole show one that 'holds up' an entire era, or one that gets us excited? (think morning wood) I'm not sure the metaphor he is going for there, but I probably wouldn't have used it. As you were...
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:46

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from start to finish. Wife is at work, and I'm off today. Got a bottle of merlot, and nowhere else to go. Morning Dew opener is killer, and we're off to a great start...
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 12:59

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You are correct Todd. My thinking is if they got back a reel or reels to complete a show, they would release it in it's entirety. Now Dick might have released bits or chunks of shows that suited his tastes; however, I do not think that is the case now, and I am glad. To me, it would be a travesty not to release a fully intact show with high quality sound from 45 years ago. And I think the boys and girls running this ship agree.Now, back to some sleuthing! Sammy T
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Submitted by mbarilla on Wed, 06/10/2015 - 13:56

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How is the bonus disc packaged with this release ? Is it Inside the sealed box ? I know it has its own sleeve I remember for Winterland 77, was inside the box under all the discs or on top.. And it was a pleasant surprise when I found it.. Approximately how many sets of these were made of Winterland 1973 ? Over 10,000 ? Bonus only came with early orders, how many of those are there ?
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