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    timjent
    9 years 9 months ago
    Waiting, too
    I have the same feeling in my stomach. As others have mentioned, I hope they expand the GA seating. I went all or nothing for GA with mail order; no second choice. I couldn't get myself to send in multiple money orders. With that feeling in my stomach I am tempted to buy another four online when they come out as insurance. I don't want to miss this but, wow, this is potentially an expensive weekend coming from VA. I don't want to keep sinking cash when mail order could show up in the mail in March after they disappear from the online brokers. Anyway, good luck to others. This surely will be epic.
  • geomeister
    9 years 9 months ago
    the cost vs the ethics
    Sir Dire, I agree, there will always be an ethical conundrum, and there will always be have and have-nots. I do not begrudge those who live in Marin County with million dollar homes...many have paid their dues and have worked hard for it.I feel for those living in the economically depressed areas, with debt, dead-end jobs, and need a ray of sunshine to brighten their day. Money does make life easier, and I agree, it is not always easy to come by. Everywhere you look, you can upgrade by paying more for something, from a good bottle of wine, to early entry on an airplane, heck, even the seat choices now come with a premium price. Organic food cost more, exclusive hotels cost more, that nice car comes at a price. VIP tickets may very well be $1000, who knows? I guess on Tuesday, we will all find out. We didn't create this system, and yes, greed comes in to play at the promoters end.Bill Graham was part of that back in the '60s, and he was both loved and vilified for his stance. Will the core 4 make money to showcase their music? You bet. Would they play for free, who knows. My first show in '72 was free, but I imagine the band got paid. Now they'll get paid more, even with the economic in-equality present in our society. Do we let people in for free or at a reduced cost because "They've paid their dues" over someone who is paying their dues now? No, that wouldn't be fair...Is it always fair? No. Does that suck? Yes. I am happy that the boys are doing this one more time, and a celebration of life and love is what we need...money grab issues, ethical considerations over costs or fairness not with-standing. Let's embrace the family, rich and poor, think globally, act locally, and do our best to support the music. In my twenties, no way could I afford to fly, much less upgrade. While I've worked in the same trade for over 40 years, I'm no where near the top. Back in the day, I had to sacrifice to pay for tickets and go to a show...18 bucks? times three days? Yikes! Man, this is such great music...listening to Sugar Magnolia this morning...So Direwulf I agree, there will always be ethical considerations, and that's where we each have to make our own decision. There is a limit, too, for each of us. I do not begrudge yours, and it will certainly be different from mine. I will not pay a grand for a ticket, but would I pay $500? That would hurt. Maybe, but dang...sure hope the mail order comes thru. Got a wad of cash invested in that endeavor, like many of us. The proof might boil down to a tough choice; we who invest in the travel and accommodations, and don't have tickets. I detest scalpers, who don't care about the family or the scene. But somewhere along the line, I might have to pay a higher price to someone who also paid a high price. I would choose that over a greedy grab for money..but there is a limit. I dislike anything I can't afford...but that "cost" is a moving target...that ain't gonna change. So I works, I saves, and I spends...like many of us...got debt, got life, got love, like many of us...and got plane tickets, got hotel confirmed, and I waits patiently. With peace and love and all good thoughts for all of us...have an awesome day! G
  • direwulf
    9 years 9 months ago
    cost of admission
    a person can pay their dues, but it still does not solve the ethical conundrum of buying their way into "exclusive" places because they have a wad of cash and other people don't. Yeah I get it, it's your money you can do what you want, but with increasing income equality in the temple of capitalism that is our country having sentiments such as this can seem off base and out of touch with the current reality for many in this country. Rationalize it, but it still doesn't change the fact that they are stepping in front of everyone else with a fistful of cash and saying I deserve to be here because now I can afford it an those people can not. Just because they used to not be able to afford it does not beget special privilege. Scalpers and the a secondary market are to blame for ticket prices the methods they employ to get tickets and distribute tickets is dubious at best. Anyone person says they paid their dues in the prosperous earlier years of this country obviously doesn't know what it's like to pay their dues in a time of the shrinking middle class, income inequality, student loan debt, no jobs, monocropping, big business, housing market crash, government default, republican anti-environment Koch brothers oligarchy. Rant over. And why is the phrase that says you've "put in your time" really just saying "I've paid enough" let me in. I will be buying tickets as well but I'm not spending 4000$ for two tickets just because I can. "I hate anything I cant afford" - Henry Rollins
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Really hard to interpret what the actual seating & standing areas designated for the new Chicago Soldier Field chart. And, what was previously shown & sold as behind the stage, side stage & obstructed view is now shaded as "UNAVAILABLE". So, there are definitely reserved seats which I believe fall entirely into "club" suites & 100 level closest to the field. These, especially close to the stage must have been designated for sale with the CID Experience & Travel VIP Packages? But, is the entire 300 & 400 level seats now general admission with first come first served? All of these except very top in the back are $200 each? And,any idea how many people on the field / floor? What is the capacity of the GA Pit? I tried to estimate from a Soldier Field concert with chairs & believe between 2500 to 3000. Total number of people attending each day is over $60k! Thanks....... The Dude
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Really hard to interpret what the actual seating & standing areas designated for the new Chicago Soldier Field chart. And, what was previously shown & sold as behind the stage, side stage & obstructed view is now shaded as "UNAVAILABLE". So, there are definitely reserved seats which I believe fall entirely into "club" suites & 100 level closest to the field. These, especially close to the stage must have been designated for sale with the CID Experience & Travel VIP Packages? But, is the entire 300 & 400 level seats now general admission with first come first served? All of these except very top in the back are $200 each? And,any idea how many people on the field / floor? What is the capacity of the GA Pit? I tried to estimate from a Soldier Field concert with chairs & believe between 2500 to 3000. Total number of people attending each day is over $60k! Thanks....... The Dude
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Really hard to interpret what the actual seating & standing areas designated for the new Chicago Soldier Field chart. And, what was previously shown & sold as behind the stage, side stage & obstructed view is now shaded as "UNAVAILABLE". So, there are definitely reserved seats which I believe fall entirely into "club" suites & 100 level closest to the field. These, especially close to the stage must have been designated for sale with the CID Experience & Travel VIP Packages? But, is the entire 300 & 400 level seats now general admission with first come first served? All of these except very top in the back are $200 each? And,any idea how many people on the field / floor? What is the capacity of the GA Pit? I tried to estimate from a Soldier Field concert with chairs & believe between 2500 to 3000. Total number of people attending each day is over $60k! Thanks....... The Dude
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I never got word about my mail order tickets until I contacted GDTSTOO last month and then got my confirm email. Does anyone know what the number and letter in the email subject indicates? Still no tickets.
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Where do you live? Just trying to see if they are hitting the east middle or west first??? Thanks.
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Live in New York. Westchester County.
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For all those commenting on the number of your email, I doubt if it means anything pertaining to your ticket or when you'll get them. I live in Chicago. I did NOT use priority or FED EX. My post mark was June 1st from SF 3PM. I received my tickets on Friday 5th. I used a Jimi Hendrix stamp to send, and didn't decorate my envelope much or even as creative as some others did. I had a Janis Joplin stamp on my SASE and my email confirmation was #62 and I received that one and only email on Feb 24th. I got one ticket for one show (I put ANY on my index card) and got the July 5th show. I got section 428, but got the MO difference sent back for the upgrade. Now you know enough about me that if you see me in, near, or around the show, you can buy me a beer, and I'll pass my fatty. ;-)p I sincerely hope all that are waiting open their mail boxes today and find the surprise they've been waiting a long time for. Hope everyone has fabulous shows, and let's keep this spirit alive and show santa Clara and Chicago how great, and grateful we all are!!
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They forgot to mention that the 79.95 pre sale webcast, only covered the VIDEO for the 5 shows there will be an extra 29.95 per show to hear the music. (a possible look into the future???)
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Joe - Did you get your MO difference back in your original un-cashed money order, or a check from GDTSTOO? Thanks and enjoy the show!
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Dear Abby, I sent mail order in on Jan 20th for 4 tickets each of the three nights @ $199, then additional money orders for the various price drops with "ANY" on the envelope. (11 money orders in all because I included the $25 for FedEx return). Got the email back on Feb 26th as batch #384. Nothing yet but the sound of crickets. No email and nothing via FedEx. I even made sure I built filters in Gmail to ensure it doesn't get sent to spam folder. No clue what I'll get for seats. Will post when I get them. Siiigghh.. Signed, "Anxious in Austin"
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Whenever i did MO in the past, if there were two ticket prices, I had two MO. One for the lowest price, and a separate MO for the difference between the lowest and highest price. I got the MO with the difference. I hope I am making this clear.
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I included the FedXpress delivery payment but have yet to receive anything. Have others received tickets by FedEx yet?
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I have not received any thing yet either. I called tickermaster and they know nothing either
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Has anyone got the Premium Reserved Seats - $215.50 in the mail yet from GDTSTOO?? If so, can you share the section the seats are in?
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Received my tix yesterday #460 email, reg mail. section 400's Cant believe how many tickets are showing up on the after market now since they are being received. Good thing is prices are going down, bad thing is they ended up in the hands of the wrong people.
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Still nothing yet for me - no email, nothing. Starting to get nervous. Would love to have tickets in hand before I get on a plane in 2 weeks to head to California. I guess if I don't get them, I can always dispute with my credit card company - but I truly hope it does not come to that.
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Haven't got mine yet but there's still plenty of time. They will come... :-)
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Just received my tickets for Chicago yesterday. I mail ordered and received 2 tix for all three days in GA Pit. Beautiful looking ducats btw.
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Good Ole Grateful Dead! Thank you to all the one's on stage playing those beautiful timeless songs once more! Thank you community! Thank you promoters! Thank you to the Universe for making all this happen. Let there be songs to fill the air!
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Has anyone who mailordered for Chicago and paid the extra for FedEx Express return received their tickets yet? Thanks so much.
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Shapiro looks bad when he says nothing and then looks worse when he finally speaks. Basically he is telling fans that they should be happy to be in at whatever price, and if they don't like the fact that they got tickets to sold out shows, then don't come. I think this comment exemplifies his weak efforts to explain the situation: "Also, GDTS TOO did not think it was right to force fans who had ordered reserved floor seats to take general admission standing room tickets instead — anyone who had ever been to a Grateful Dead show would be at least 20 years older now and had probably ordered reserved seats for a good reason." Right...this isn't the Eagles Hell Freezes Over Tour with a bunch of reserved seat patrons up front politely waiting for the band to play the music exactly like the CD. I know some Heads aren't as dancy as they used to be, but the floor is the floor and people who wanted the floor know what the floor's about and weren't gonna be using their seats, and to suggest that they would be disappointed with standing floor tickets is laughable. You give any of those people the option between GA floor for *199* (oh wait, plus fees) and Sec. 400 nosebleed and they would pick floor every day of the week. That's my $0.02. Don't get me wrong--I'm not bitter, I'm just calling a spade a spade. I'm going to the shows and am very happy to be going. I resolved this conflict many months ago by differentiating my "Grateful Dead" experience of the past from this new adventure that will be awesome but was handled poorly from the band/promoter's end at the outset. Looking forward to seeing the shows and all my friends, new and old, for some good old-fashioned fun in Chicagoland.
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Well said my man.... I second that emotion.... mmmmmbop bop, bop bop
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Once again we are on the same wavelength. Had to stop and put my boots on to wade through the second half of that "justification." The closing was appropriate though, statements do just seem vain at last. Hope all that are in enjoy and still hoping to scalp a scalper.
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I hope so Klangstone, I truly do. No joy with today's mail delivery......
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Well that was nice. I suppose he didn't have to explain anything at all. I would have just explained we understand why some are unhappy even though we sent you a ticket. And explain why they should have personally called or emailed over a hundred thousand ticket purchasers to ask if it was ok they were charged a few extra dollars to get tickets instead of being shut out. I would then tell them if they are still unhappy, to go home, their mama's are calling. What if they didn't do this ticket switcheroo? Holy shit, there's be twice as many whiners and 4X as many tickets on StubHub. Yes, an unconventional debacle it caused, but personally, I have nothing to complain about and this debacle should not detract from the shows any furthur.
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Another painful day at the mailbox! Nothing yet!!??? I live in the Sacramento Region.
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Right on, Totem. I am finished with all the drama. This seems to be fair-- don't like the tickets, send them back and they will refund them. If you want to attend and still complain, well they'll send you a partial refund for the price difference from a seating chart that was pulled down and null and void once they knew that demand was way higher than ticket supply and it needed adjusting. Really, it was obvious early on that the seating chart was changing and that mail order was going to be adjusted. Please, it is a little over three weeks to Chicago-- can we just get on with making plans to have an amazing weekend?
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other than the pit tickets, did anybody get mail order tickets that are not in the 300-400 sections? did they sell through mail order any of the 100 level seats that were advertised when we sent our money in? or did those seats all get sold to other people after they cashed our money orders? it seems like shapiro's response is that he figured we would all have a good time in the nosebleed seats and that we would be happy to pay full price for some of the worst seats, even when the folks in a full deck lower paid less money for their tix. gee, thanks man..... I paid extra for the pretty tickets, but what I was purchasing in good faith were seats that were advertised to be in the 100s or the field. offering a refund after the show is sold out is pretty lame, especially when they mentioned nothing about changing the seating locations and prices until now many months after.
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Does anyone know of any plans for non-theater venues (maybe drive-ins or outdoor stages that show movies) to show the simulcasts? The only venues showing up in Florida are theaters, and I'm crossing my fingers that some bars with courtyards may pick up the simulcast; can you imagine a biergarten showing the live feed?
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Hi Eyes... I'm in Florida and yeah, nothing today either. Getting concerned as I hop on a plane on the 24th..... Hope we both get ours soon. Scott
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$13.99 for a 22 oz. bottle.... it does have a nice label though....
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Sam Adams Rebel Rouser 8.4% West Coast Double IPA 6x12oz Or 72 oz for $8.99 but the label isn't cool? What should I do?
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Here is what you should do: 1. Go to the post office and get MO's for the most expensive beer 2. Mail them in by the mail in date 3. Wait two months to find out if you were lucky enough to get any beer 4. Wait two more months to get your beer, but start planning a party to drink the beer 5. Get your beer, but don't be surprised when it is not what you asked for and instead of IPA it is Budweiser 6. Demand the promoter get you the beer you ordered 7. Either send back the beer and get your money back before the party, or drink some of the beer before sending it back and get the price difference between the beer you wanted and the beer you actually got
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My friend in northern California received tickets for all three nights. One night in section 115, and the other two nights in sections 221 and 231. I do not know if she received unused money orders, probably not. She sent three sets of three money orders to cover all possibilities. Section 115 was originally Price Level 2 @ $149.50. No combination of her money orders could equal this amount. The Ticketmaster seating chart now shows all 100 section seats @ $196.50. Sections 221 & 231 were originally listed as PL 3 @ $119.50. Again, no way to use her money orders for that amount. I'm not certain, but it looks like Ticketmaster was charging $146.50 for 200s. So, YES, people are receiving other sections besides pit and nose bleeds. As for myself, checking the mail in June is becoming almost as stressful as it was in February. No Chicago tickets from GDTSTOO nor tickets for Santa Clara, YET! As for the offer of partial refunds, I guess it depends on the person. For my friend, it could amount to hundreds of dollars for her and her three fellow heads. Promoters are doing the right thing by offering refunds for the difference. Also, from what I have read, GDTSTOO people receiving nosebleed seats in the 300s and 400s are being charged the original listed price, PL 5 @ $79.50.
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my circumstance and seat selection is nearly identical to your friend's. i guess all shapiro can do now is refund $ but i'd much rather have the seats for which i thought i was paying. i am not complaining (too much) b/c i'm going, and have great to good seats. but the last minute switcheroo is not right. however, I will get by...I will have a blast and will enjoy it all. i can't wait ... we're counting days not months!
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I will get by......so let's get on with the show!
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A poorly put together Dead event is always better than a good day at work! GD50 is what it is. If YOU don't approve WE don't care. Let there be songs to fill the air. Thank you Core Four for fulfilling my wish from the 1st post on this thread. 5 more Dead shows than I saw last year. T-minus 16 days until 4000 Mile Magic Carpet Road Trip begins. Hope to see all you Grateful Heads in SC and Chi. Hope all the complainers get their refunds! Rcv'd SC ticketmaster floor tickets Mon. in the L.A. area. Still waiting on Chi ticketmaster tix. Good luck all. Safe journeys.
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Cant believe its been 20 years , getting excited..another thankyou to the dead ,Shapiro, deadnet and all heads on this site!!
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With the positive messages. Now this ship is floating! 2 weeks, 2 days, and 14 hours until showtime in Santa Clara! 3 weeks, 1 day, and 12 hours until showtime in Chicago!
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Ornette Coleman passed.Saw him with Jerry and the boys a couple of times. Hope they are jamming elsewhere now.
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>A poorly put together Dead event is always better than a good day at work! (Hell, some people got on the bus at Boreal, which is something of a byword.)
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julie- check your pm. gob