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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • Cousins Of The…
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    RE: leftover stock
    Usually does not get thrown away, but ends up in discount bins...remember LPs with bb holes, or cut corners? They were leftover dead stock.
  • brokedowndude
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    Hmmmmm, good point...... God I hope not.... I had envisioned each show being in a beautiful stand alone pack with liner notes..... Shit.....
  • rsp76
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    Adding to the costs thread...
    Not to belabor the point too much, but my guess is that the CD's, printed material, licensing fees, mastering costs, marketing cost, and employment of the engineers is roughly half the cost of each set. Add to the fact that Rhino paid $10 Million for the rights to vault, there is not a ton of profit in this for them. Maybe, 25% at best. It is just crazy to think that people would complain about that.
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    If everything else...
    If everything else in the world -- master reels, everyone's discs, cassettes and LPs, the archive.org servers and everyone's computer backups -- were destroyed in a conflagration caused by the collision of the Earth with a giant comet, and only my back-up CDr of disc 4 from the Fillmore box set survived (because I buried it deep in the backyard along with my Archie & Veronica comic book collection -- just in case of such a calamitous event! -- would that CDr be a valuable historical document?? I dunno. Better call in a professor!
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    What's actually in this box...
    I'm currently wrestling with my conscience, debit card in hand! Why can't they provide some photos of what's inside the box! I'm not overly keen on the artwork to be honest. Most importantly I dont want to buy it and find out its disks inside some elaborate pack that just slip in and out... If they are stand alone packages inside like E72 was than holy shit, I'm in! I'm slightly worried that this may not be the case however... Dave and co know they have a problem with people buying releases and then scalping them on ebay for profit. Here we have 30 releases of which many people only want some... The scalping opporunity is HUGE! I'm wondering if they may have decided to have all disks in some elaborate box containing slip cases without each show having its own packaging (think a BIG So Many Roads Box Set). This would solve the scalping problem, who wants to buy 3 loose disks?? Is this why they haven't shown us the contents of the box? I know that if it were apparent this was the case with this release than many people would not buy, me included. Does anyone think this could be true??
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    I think / hope that everyone who reads / posts here is a fan of the GD. I certainly hope trolls don't come here just to create trouble but who knows? I myself do not have enough time in my life for something like that on any site. Rhino has been in business for 37 years and has been a partner with the Dead for the past 10 years. I have to think they know a little more about selling merchandise then I do. Call me crazy if you don't agree with that. I am sure that every single release that comes out will have detractors, whether for price, content, artwork, or something. There will also be those who feel they are entitled to everything for free. That is not just the case in this world the last time I looked. This box is very fairly priced considering what you are getting. If it is too expensive for you, I am sorry about that. I really do feel for the true Head who cannot afford it. When the E'72 box came out I could not afford that, so I passed on it. Did I come on here and complain that it was too expensive? No, I did not. I just manned up, kept my mouth shut and envied those who were able to order it at that time. Thankfully this time I am taking the plunge, even though once again it will be a bit of a stretch for my wallet. Coming on here and expressing your views is fine, but let's all try to remember that not every release will be perfect for everybody. This argument of eras is ludicrous in my mind. I am a fan of the good ol' Grateful Dead. I think that every single release / show has some merit and showcases the band on that given night. I want to hear them all, warts & all. That is what makes this band unique. They don't take everything back to the studio and cover up mistakes. You get it the way they played it that day. If today's show did not float your boat, come back to tomorrow's show and give it another shot. Dick Latvala said it best. Caveat emptor. I for one am never disappointed. This box is what a lot of us have been asking for. A complete 30 year joy ride. Sit back and enjoy! Rock on
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    I'm sure they will, as they
    I'm sure they will, as they did for the Europe 72 set. And, if only they could put them up on the website, so we can use them without having to scan them... I find it really cheap of them to not provide artwork with each release.
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    Left over stock
    It pains me to think about left over stock. What happens to this stuff? Does it just sit and rot away? Does it get thrown away?
  • MLavallee
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    Costs...
    Discs have to be made, this costs money. Books have to be printed, this costs money. Boxes have to be made, this costs money. Artwork has to be commissioned, this costs money. Restoration work on 80CDs worth of music, tons of time and no one will do that work for free. Mastering the CD costs money. Printing out the scroll that no one will look at twice costs money. Licensing fees for all those cover tunes. It all adds up. Lot of upfront costs to put something like this together. Lots of production costs to put something like this out. They're not exactly sitting on a goldmine here. The price is totally justified. How much does a single disc new release cost? Multiply that by 80, yeah. Stop whining.
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    Other cost considerations
    Another cost factor for them to analyze is the cost of warehousing. This would include cost of the square footage required to store and labor required to maintain inventory. There is certainly a cost associated with housing inventory for years on end. Perhaps not a huge number but one that adds up over time. The Terrapin Limited release for example; that release is almost 20 years old now and still in stock/inventory. Someone has been paying costs including utilities and maybe even rent to store those things. It all has to be accounted for if you really want to mind your costs and be profitable.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I ordered the 73 box set without even knowing it would sell out very soon after.....and mine came with the bonus disc...it has it's own green sleeve and is from Cincinnati I believe early December...
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First there were the show dates Then there was the set lists Now there is the Count for each song on the box. 1 Ain’t It Crazy (The Rub) 1 And We Bid You Goodnight 1 Black-Throated Wind (Weir Acoustic) 1 Blow Away 1 Cardboard Cowboy 1 China Doll 1 Corrina 1 Crazy Fingers 1 Cream Puff War 1 Days Between 1 Dear Mr. Fantasy 1 Death Don’t Have No Mercy 1 Deep Elem Blues 1 Dire Wolf 1 Doin’ That Rag 1 Don’t Mess Up A Good Thing 1 Don’t Need Love 1 Drums (Sage & Spirit Jam) 1 Drums (Theme From ‘Close Encounters Of The Third Kind’) 1 Dupree’s Diamond Blues 1 Easy to Love You 1 Gangster Of Love 1 Hard To Handle 1 He Was A Friend Of Mine 1 Here Comes Sunshine 1 Hey Jude Reprise 1 Hey Pocky Way 1 I Fought the Law 1 I Just Want To Make Love To You 1 I Will Take You Home 1 Iko Iko 1 It Hurts Me Too 1 It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry 1 It's A Man’s World 1 Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues 1 Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door 1 La Bamba 1 Last Time, The 1 Lazy Lightnin’ 1 Long Way Home 1 Maggie’s Farm 1 Me And Bobby McGee 1 Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo 1 Mountains Of The Moon 1 Next Time You See Me 1 Nobody’s Jam 1 On The Road Again 1 Saint Of Circumstance 1 Saint Stephen 1 Salt Lake City 1 Samba in the Rain 1 Sitting On Top Of The World 1 Smokestack Lightnin’ 1 Spanish Jam 1 St. Stephen 1 Stronger Than Dirt 1 Supplication 1 That Would Be Something 1 Throwing Stones 1 Tomorrow Is Forever 1 Unknown Title 1 Victim Or The Crime 1 Visions Of Johanna 1 Wang Dang Doodle   2 Alabama Getaway 2 Alligator 2 Big Boss Man 2 Black Peter 2 Broken Arrow 2 Casey Jones 2 Caution Jam 2 Feedback 2 Foolish Heart 2 Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 2 Jack-A-Roe 2 Liberty 2 Loose Lucy 2 Mama Tried 2 My Brother Esau 2 Passenger 2 Queen Jane Approximately 2 Row Jimmy 2 Same Thing, The 2 So Many Roads 2 Stagger Lee 2 Standing On The Moon 2 To Lay Me Down 2 Touch Of Grey 2 Viola Lee Blues 2 When I Paint My Masterpiece   3 All Along the Watchtower 3 Althea 3 Big Railroad Blues 3 Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) 3 Don’t Ease Me In 3 Eleven, The 3 Feel Like A Stranger 3 Greatest Story Ever Told 3 He’s Gone 3 Help On The Way 3 High Time 3 I Need A Miracle 3 It’s All Over Now 3 Jam 3 Johnny B. Goode 3 Little Red Rooster 3 Lost Sailor 3 Man Smart, Woman Smarter 3 Race Is On, The 3 Ship Of Fools 3 Slipknot! 3 Walkin’ Blues 3 Wheel, The   4 Bertha 4 C. C. Rider 4 Candyman 4 Cassidy 4 Cold Rain And Snow 4 Comes A Time 4 Franklin’s Tower 4 Friend Of The Devil 4 It Must Have Been The Roses 4 Let It Grow 4 Mexicali Blues 4 Morning Dew 4 Peggy-O 4 Ramble on Rose 4 Saint Of Circumstance 4 Samson And Delilah 4 Shakedown Street 4 Stella Blue 4 Terrapin Station   5 Around And Around 5 Black-Throated Wind 5 China Cat Sunflower 5 Cumberland Blues 5 Dancing In The Street 5 El Paso 5 Fire On The Mountain 5 Good Lovin’ 5 Hell In A Bucket 5 Jack Straw 5 Looks Like Rain 5 Loser 5 Space 5 Sugar Magnolia 5 They Love Each Other 5 Wharf Rat   6 Bird Song 6 Cryptical Envelopment 6 Dark Star 6 Estimated Prophet 6 Eyes Of The World 6 I Know You Rider 6 New Minglewood Blues 6 Sugaree 6 Tennessee Jed 6 Turn On Your Lovelight 6 U.S. Blues 7 Beat It On Down The Line 7 Deal 7 Music Never Stopped, The 7 Promised Land, The 7 Scarlet Begonias 7 Uncle John’s Band 8 Going Down The Road Feelin’ Bad 8 Truckin’ 9 Big River 9 Brown-Eyed Woman 9 Me And My Uncle 9 One More Saturday Night 9 Playing In The Band 10 Not Fade Away 10 Other One, The 25 Drums
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HCS probably was dropped from rotation because it was too hard to sing the high harmonies, and with the microphone setup in 1974, the high notes would not have carried over well. It came back because Vince could hit those high notes.
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All I came up with for the possible missing and returned reel(s) from a late 69'/early 70 is 1/2/70/ and 12/30/69 which contains within everything but Dew. These shows seem fairly complete, so unlikely just Morning Dew would be missing. The missing reel(s) could come from shows which we have seen select songs be released like 11/7/69 or 2/8/70; maybe even the 12/10/69 Thelma show. And Todd you might be right, the bonus disc was the 4th show. All I know is I am done sleuthing (at least in this case) and will wait patiently for Dave's 15 to be announced and the arrival of the 30 box. Good things come to those who wait. SMILE, SMILE, SMILE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sammy T
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....us 'heads are a fanatical bunch. No wonder some non-fans think were are crazy. If I didn't love this band, I would call for straight-jackets for all of us. What are we doing with our lives!!.... ....edit. I agree. Here Comes Sunshine was shelved waaaay too soon. The '90's versions can't really hold a candle to the '73-'74 versions. Still cool they broke it out though....
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profit makes the world go round, capitalism, what a concept. In the business I'm involved with making the customer happy is number 1 priority, period. Profit is not everything, unless that's what you're all about. We find that if you give a little, you get a lot in return. One of the things that drew me to the Grateful Dead was this band had a heart. Rhino, not so much. If time is money, and money is the root of all evil.............my head hurts. :)
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The Bonus Disc is just like the Prego marinara sauce Grandma used to make- "It's in there."
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for the name check. Still lurking from time to time and following the show from the fringes...it's been nearly a year. Been restoring my parents' old Quad 33/303 amplifier set up from 1972. Of course I had to use the Europe 72 box set to test it today, and it sounds ...sumptuous. What do I think about 30 Trips? Well .... oops, time's up. Take care.
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Nice score brokedowndude,, was it inside the box ? I bought W77box at at mall music store a few years after release and it had bonus disc. I am guessing if it came from dead.net purchase it had the disc and shops that bought early would have gotten. I just scored a sealed copy of Winterland73, if any wants to trade for FW69 complete set, I can sweeten the deal by adding another sealed item, the Warlocks89 box. I would also have a Winterland 77 sealed from my ex-,, but either Dr. Rhino never sent the darn thing out or it was lost in transit.. Hebron the "Black Hole".. During 30 Days of Dead 2012.. I think she won for the track Passenger (5.26.77), a fitting song for her to be picked that day. And also fitting that the prize was supposed to be a killer set from 10 days later. I may take one last stab at contacting the Dr. and ask for tracking info this time.. I have an email that says it was sent, dang ittttt
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Howdy all. I have two floor tickets (standing, aka dancing room only) for Saturday night, June 27 that I hope to trade for two floor tickets for Sunday night, June 28. If you can make this happen for me -- and you! -- PM me. Looking forward. -- Adam
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Not impressed with the new formatting here. Also noticed we can no longer put more than 99 items in our cart. Interesting, that's totally my fault. I posted there were 1795 copies of 30 Trips left yesterday by seeing how many I could add to my cart, and strangely enough, I can no longer do that. DAVE, RHINO, WHOMEVER - WE KNOW YOU READ THESE NOW - PLEASE GET ME A COPY OF DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 1
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The cart thing,, i thought they did away with that awhile ago. I know people were buying in bulk to sell the last copies of certain Road trips cause they knew it had less than 100,, For those interested in the the trip to Hawaii June 1970,, 6.12.70 was featured today,, Thats It For The Other One.. Vault Master Dave, states the first part of the show does not sound great,, and Bobby can be heard giving the local soundman some grief. Bear was not allowed out of CA and this began in March of 1970. In a couple of days, more from Hawaii will be featured. Probably 6.13.70, but tomorrow's choice will be some June 1976, which coincidently enough was the era I had been listening to right before I switched the radio CD player to Sirius this morning, (6.10.76) Jerry is a little low in the mix, the venue was so small, its a shame the guitar is not any louder, still a great recording
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What we have here, any way you slice it, is an embarrassment of riches! I've ordered 30 Trips, and I'm already excited for DaP 15. Like a kid on Christmas Eve!
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As Brad Pitt asked in Se7en, "What's in the box?!?!?!"
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It is 9:13 PM here in Philly, for the last hour or so the Mrs. & I engaged in a discussion regarding, 30 Trips, the gist of the conversation is I'm trying every which way to acquire one for 2 reasons; 1) I'm a completest 2) I want it Now I have a Michael Jordan 86-87 Fleer rookie card graded PSA 8 that I could sell for at least 800 dollars the wife says to me if I am successful in obtaining "30 Trips BEFORE it sells out when will it ship, I tell her September 18th she says okay so it doesn't interfere with any "plans". The reason she wants to know is because when I ordered the E72 box set it was supposed to ship AFTER Labor Day however mine arrived the Friday BEFORE Labor Day, that weekend the wife's boss offered her FREE use of a beach front summer home in Margate, N.J., for the entire week from the Friday before until the following Sunday. Well we get everything done as far as our jobs are concerned I only stayed until Monday the wife & the kid stayed until Wednesday after Labor Day, we leave a key with our neighbor just so she can "check" on the house, collect the mail etc., etc. Well we leave Philly at around 11 AM we arrive in Margate at around 2 or so, just as we unload the car the neighbor calls & tells the wife a "big heavy" packaged arrived I ask the wife to ask the neighbor who sent it she says dead.net I say I am on my way. I took our daughter with me back to Philly to get my E72 box set, we get to Margate around 6:30 or so the wife was absolutely livid, I told her "listen dear I've waited since January for this box set there is no way I'm going to be able to sleep knowing that it's at the house & I'm here in New Jersey". So to this day she asks when is the shipping date on anything I order from dead.net, so she doesn't make any vacation plans lest the plans interfere with a coveted GD release. She puts up with my madness & she allows me to obsess over this thing that she claims is "bigger" than the both of us. Needless to say the love I have for my wife is BIGGER than the whole world. WE LOVE EACH OTHER!!!!
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Interesting and very likely insight mayor Marion.... Didn't think about the microphone problems that the wall of sound created.... Does anyone know when the last one was? If it was a clunker, that could have sealed its fate..... Vguy72.... Any chance you know when they played the last one?
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2/24/74 to 12/6/92 1213 show gap according to Deadbase Jr.
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I was there. It was not a clunker. Very good show too. That was not the last one, not even close.
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2.23.74 version IS a bit of a "clunker"which was the final version until the breakout on 12.6.92 7.2.95 was the final one... Deercreek 7.20.94 is a groovy version, even with its lil vocal flub... that whole show is killer, dig that setlist!! this was a tune Vince shined on... ♤ note: predicted 10.1.94 would get released... ...just never thought it'd happen so soon after!!!
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toss it in with 2.22.74 and the October run to make it a lucky 7 box
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Love this thread.....grateful for the knowledge......thank you....
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....sorry brokedown, ace333 beat me to it. I did catch the Arizona return and my final show at Shoreline had one....Vince really did pretty well on that tune. Everyone gives him a bad rap, including myself. We even shared the same name for dangs sake! But his vox were pretty good imo. My legs gave out and I had to sit down when they broke it out for the first time in 19 years. My legs also gave out at the Forum in '89 when when broke out Monkey & The Engineer....etched in my mind for eternity (the noun, not the song, although that went places too). Holy Shit! Are we beginning to tread on '90's ground? Careful! Thin ice ahead.... ...and to the poster who listed the song count for the 30 Trips Box, thank you. I was gonna do it myself soon, but you saved me the trouble. I raise my almost empty glass to you good sir. Time for a refill....imperial stout in case anyone was wondering... ...edit again. Love the new font. Bold, like the best band in the land....
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Relax, Johann.. I have it on good authority, there are two more Samba's and three Easy Answers on the Bonus Disc. Does that put your worried mind at ease?
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Is anybody else excited for this feel like a stranger from Maine in 84... There's something about early to mid 80s shows that make me feel relaxed and content, especially on hot rainy summer days, don't ask why it just does! On a side note, my girlfriend always says to me it all sounds the same it all sounds the same, well I'm looking forward to playing her these Prophets from this box, Prophet to me is my go to for proof of... Hey look this doesn't sound the same does it?... Excited for the entire box, can't wait
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....obviously, Mr. Moran, your girlfriend hasn't "got it" yet. I've witnessed a handful of people who "got it" right before my eyes. It's a beautiful thing to behold. When someone gets it, it's uphill from there. they want to get their eyes, ears and hands on all of it. Sometimes it's all at once, but careful, the Grateful Dead are like a fine wine. You may not like it on first taste, but pop that cork on a second bottle a few months, or years later, and it all becomes clear. I am looking forward to the '84 Maine gig, as well as all the other shows in this release. I look at it this way. Let's say the dead tome is a swimming pool, and the members are jumping in from an Olympic high dive board. They all go in. Bobby (kinda thin), T.C. (thinner), Mickey (average), Donna (hopefully in a two-piece from circa 1976, Swoon). Then Jerry (circa 1985. The Fat Knight Rises), and proceeds to grace us with an epic cannonball. That "dive", is this box. Somebody refill the pool!!! The rest of the band is shivering, and Phil's Heineken is getting warm! Lol....
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Maine and the rest of New England are pretty well represented here. If you include New York & Jersey, I believe fully one third of the shows are from the Northeast. As someone mentioned earlier, no Philly? Oh well, fodder for future releases...
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Does anybody out there remember the old bumper sticker,"The Show Ain't Over 'Till The Fat Man Melts!" ?:)
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Thanks for the list.I count 175 different songs with 64 only played once.
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Plenty of friends here! '80s had some great stuff. Hey Now! I Don't get why Brent gets no love, he's amazing.
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....I remember that one. how 'bout the Air Garcia sticker? Classic. BTW, stumbled across a pristine video of the boyz at the San Francisco Civic Aud on 12.27.83 on youtube. Check it out if you have the time. If you don't have the time, then find some!!
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Weir'd LoadWeir Everywhere If The Jerry Don't Brent Ya Then The Bobby Phil More Bass,Lesh Philling(on of course a copy of a Lite beer label) ...stoner's block. I'll try and think of more. :) AHAHH! The Ringling Brother's Circus Drum w/ Dead skeleton and font that read-The Greatest Show On Earth! Oh yeah,and one that had a 50's style picture of a Vegas style guy on water-skis waving with one hand,with a picture of Bobby on the head that read-"At Least I'm Enjoying The Ride!" AH-HAH Again!-I had a t-shirt that read "Keep On Tolkien!" that was the classic Mr. Natural struttin',but it was Bilbo. :)
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4.29.84 check it out Terrapin > Jam > Don't Need Love > Excellent show with some nice jams to start the show. For another primetime nugget 12.2.81,, I expect a release or 2 from this month. Good Time Blues ; Cumberland Blues After letting the seasoned vets take swings for the majority of the 1st set, Brent gets his call to the plate and delivers a mighty fine Good Time Blues
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....Frosted Flakes shirt. Loved that one. "The kids they dance and shake their bones" Calvin & Hobbes shirt is sweet too. Top 10 comic strip in general....
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....the eighties rise! It wasn't all bad. But like I've said before, I'm not that picky. Flubbed lyrics or tones? That's part of the stew....can i have another bowl please?.... ..."Who is this band, and why do they keep following me?". I had one of those on my old Toyota pickup. Crashed it. Tried to peel it off, but it came off in flakes and strips. No, not Frosted or comic, just pieces....(tear forms)....from my eye, not the sticker. Oh well, you people get it. Don't you?...Yeah you do. Sleep well all....
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I've seen a few comments across a few forums now about bonus disc or bonus content coming with the 30 trips box - does anyone have any confirmation? Although I've ordered this - it's a shame theyre not using the killer filler I used to get with my tape trades (i.e. songs to fill up the end of Set 1 on a C90 cassette from previous nights or whatever) - a great idea! They used this approach on the Beyond Description and Golden Road sets to great success..... Why not the same here - killer filler was all the rage in the tape trade days. Alternatively Dave I've got a killer idea for you - there's HEAPS of songs missing and not in this set (Unbroken Chain the obvious one - and a tonne of Brent songs (personal preference) - do a 4CD bonus pack of those songs A-Z across the 30 years......... And while we're at it - next box set how about Best of the Guests - a 6-8 CD set across the years of when guests joined and jammed - I'm think Steve Stills Black Queen, Santana 87, Ornette Coleman, Dylan, Babatunde Olatunji etc........
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He's an awful hack, that's why. It's not his playing, it's his singing and keyboard sounds. For my part, I like his contributions to songs that he was around for in the studio (Feel Like a Stranger, Touch of Grey, Foolish Heart, etc), but he defines the word "travesty" when he's involved on anything from the 70s. I can't make it through versions of songs like Music Never Stopped or Cassidy or Jack Straw with those awful keyboard sounds and backing vocals, and why would I when I can pop in the same song featuring Donna and Keith? And he can't harmonize when he sings backup. Does he deliver once in awhile? Sure, I'll give him that, but he detracts more than he adds, and I personally feel the Grateful Dead would have been better off keeping Keith and Donna in the mix. At a minimum, he should not have been allowed to sing, and his keyboard sounds should have been micro-managed by someone without a tin ear. From Internet Archive Forum: "every time he opened his mouth to sing it set my teeth on edge" "Anything - absolutely anything - by Brent Mydland is utterly disposable and has me lunging for the skip button." "I can't think of a single Mydland song that I like - every one of them has me reaching for the skip button. They're just utterly banal. Can you imagine a Brent Mydland solo album full of this stuff? Doesn't bear thinking about..." "Mydland sounds like a BeeGee with a head cold (and as for that blasted tiny-tonk keyboard sound...)" "If an ashtray full of old cigarette butts could sing, I imagine it would sound like Brent Mydland."
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Blow Away is my destructive Brent Anthem. Great tune live. Also glad I didn't notice that.
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I am not a great fan of the so-called Brent era, but many of my issues are not specifically to do with him. It is also worth taking note of what Garcia said about him 'It was heartbreaking when Brent died, because it seemed like such a waste. Here's this incredibly talented guy — he had a great natural melodic sense, and he was a great singer. And he could have gotten better, but he just didn't see it. He couldn't see what was good about what he was doing, and he couldn't see himself fitting in. And no amount of effort on our part could make him more comfortable.' Garcia says a lot more that is very touching and perceptive about Brent in the 1991 Rolling Stone interview. Worth a look, it might encourage a little more generosity.
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I know the band had its great moments, shows and even tours in the 80s and 90s, but '84 was a pretty ugly jolt in terms of Garcia's decline - bloated, fogged in etc. It's been discussed here before, and many do not agree with me, but to be clamoring for more music from that particular year.... is weird.
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that's a bit harsh, but i agree that the 70's songs sounded better in the 70's. i will say this about brent...i caught a "go ahead" show in new orleans in the late 80's (billy & brent plus some other players), where brent was the bandleader, and it was FANTASTIC something about being the man in the band brought out a side of him rarely seen with the dead. gone were the michael-mcdonald-warbling and the occasional histrionics, and in its place was well played rock/blues/R&B so take that for what its worth...
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Ooowee, the Brent bashing has reached new lows overnight. My live experiences with the Dead spanned the Brent era. I am not a diehard advocate for Brent's tunes, although that Hey Pocky Way opener at Shoreline 87 blew me away. As a back-up singer, Brent took a few years to hit his stride, but I liked the smoky fills on a number of songs. Jerry loved singing back-up, but he sure needed help for a good stretch of the 80's. In terms of the playing and his "sounds", after he got away from the Schroeder toy piano sound and started working the B-3 with the Leslie, I thought it was outstanding. I liked the semi-soulful, pseudo Allman sound this brought to the mix. Hell, I even liked the cat scratch fills on Loser (haters may want to skip this on 10/21/83-it was incredible live and for me it has held up to multiple listenings). We are a funny bunch- grumbling about too many Lovelight raps from Pig, the off key caterwauling Donna on many tunes and the block chords that Keith resorted to at the end. I listen to it all- yes, I absolutely prefer the strongest eras and the best shows within each. I did not purchase either of the '90 boxes because I knew I wouldn't give them the time they deserve. I am not sure there is a need to tear anyone apart in these forums, whether a band member or current poster. We have the ability to simply move away from what we don't like and allow others their space to enjoy. Even within the world of licorice there are many different textures and tastes.
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Ornette Coleman, free jazz sax legend and Dead collaborator died this morning. Remarkably courageous and powerful player... RIP, man.On the Brent front, I wasn't a fan when I was in my 20's. In fact, "I will take you home" was dubbed "I will take a piss" or "I will get a beer." Great chance to take a breather. Not until he died did I really begin to fully appreciate his contributions. Like Oxford, I am particularly thrilled by his use of the B3 and Leslie. He channeled more authentic blues energy than anyone in the band. Listen to some of those Walking Blues or Never Trust a Woman from 90 and check out his stunning organ and scat solos. The dude had chops. He rocked best to Pocky Way and Blow Away, IMO, not to mention Gimme Some Lovin and Hey Jude. Hell, now that I have two kids of my own, even I Will Take You Home has a place in my heart!
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Anyone? Listening to "Shakedown Stream" from yesterday... doing 1986... the only year for this baby... Brent - he was my keyboard guy when I went to shows: 84-89. And I thought he was fine... Now, at 50+ -- and I can listen to so...... so.... much, that I would never have imagined back when I was a kid. So now, Keith and Donna are my faves.... But yes, Donna sometimes swallowed the mike (as an old friend use to say) and I am another one that is not a big fan of the Pig raps... oh well. But, I love the Beatles too, and I don't love everything... so my 2 cents Speaking of back in the day, any Talking Head fans on this board? I remember that a number of my Dead friends (as well as myself) where into them... in the 80s. Was watching Stop Making Sense last night on youtube... When I saw that movie in 1984, me and a couple other guys I was with were dozed, but my big take (or high-insight at the time, and it still holds) was rhythm and percussion, I was fascinated by it from the movie, and it still informs my acoustic guitar playing to this day! As well as Jer and Bobby -- Jerry had some pretty good rhythm chops too :)
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Keepers: just a little light, pocky, a bunch of others the one I wish had never been brought out (keep it in the family): I will take you home. Way too personal of a song. in any case Brent's awesome. a little showboaty sometimes, but still awesome. listen to 9/24/83's Uncle John's Band. Brent's keys are so freakin' beautiful.
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Three of my favorite TH tunes are "No Compassion", "Warning Signs" & "Crosseyed and Painless". Got a better appreciation for Cities after I saw Phish cover it at Lemonwheel... When they added Bernie Worrell and that intensive persussion section, they definitely stepped up their game. Saw David Byrne at Avalon (Now HOB) probably 10 years ago and it was a good show... I could not resist, I created a playlist of what I had from the archive that's being released on 30 Trips. I'm listening to it in chronicle order and was pleasantly surprised by Pigpen doing "It's a man's man's man's world" channeling Janice without her dynamic range (of course). People are in for a treat!!! Almost want to stop listening so I will get totally blown away by the stuff I never heard... Come on Dave, unless you're redoing the seaside chats with less wind, release another chat!!! Or at least a sneakpeak at the box... EDIT: fixing bad grammar...
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I thought he was ok the first few years, soundwise; though his songs were definitely late 70's "light rock" However, I cannot listen to his ad-libs on Little Red Rooster, just plain vulgar and ugly. On the other hand, Weir's songs after Terrapin got really clunky both lyrically and musically. It's hard to believe the same songwriting team that wrote a piece as melodic as Weather Report Suite(not to mention the whole Ace LP), came up with Feel Like a Stranger and Picasso Moon.
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