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    Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know...

    This topic is for requesting new individual shows. There are also topics for box sets and DVDs.

    If you've already requested something in the previous Requests topic, you don't really need to request it again, but hey, if you just can't help yourself...

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  • dstache
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    Releasing more shows
    Not that I needed a reason to think about it, but the Contest really has me thinking about when and how the vault is going to be opened. What is undeniable upon listening to the free songs that have been available for download is how good the sound quality is. An officially released version of many of these shows would be a major upgrade to what already circulates. So when is this going to happen and how? The when is important for 2 reasons: (1) how many years can they conceivably continue to make money on the band, and (2) isn't there some obligation to older deadheads to allow them to get these shows? I don't know how much longer they can continue to make money off the band, but I don't think it is infinite. I think there are more deadheads passing away than there are being born. Now there definitely are kids in their teens and 20's that are being turned on to the band. But are these people really buying shows. They've grown up in a different world, where paying for music is an anachronism. I don't think they are buying like older deadheads are. I tend to think there is a limited amount of time to make money on the band. Even if I am wrong, and there is a long time left, isn't there some obligation to the people who made the band what it is. If you were 20 in 1970, you're 60 now. I hope we all live until we are 100, but being realistic, many of the original deadheads probably only have another 20 or so years left. Even those of us that are younger (I'm 37) don't have eternity. I think the when is soon. As to the how, running some numbers, let's say that a person wants to have 1000 shows. At $20 per show, that comes to $20,000. That's a lot of money. I'm certainly not spending that much money over a short period. Some may say that a person is not entitled to as many shows as they want. And I'd agree. But then areyou would be saying that only the wealthy deserve to have a lot of shows. I'm sure we'd all say that isn't right. So $20 per show is too expensive, which means you can't release everything on CD (which is probably not feasible anyways). So it needs to be released for download. And for much per show? MAybe $10 per show is fair, especially when Rhino would only have to remaster the show and pay for server space, and not have to pay for the CD's, the sleeves, the jewel cases, etc. Or you have yearly subscriptions, charging say $100 a year and allowing a maximum of 20 show downloads per member. So will everything be available to download? Again probably not feasible. But uploading 100 or 200 shows per year certainly is. I would make a list, using the input of your friend the late Dick Lavala, as well as the Davids, and others, of shows that are the likeliest of possible future official releases (for which you can charge the usual $20), and NOT upload those shows. For example, for 1977, you could argue that 5/5 -5/9, 5/12, 5/17, 10/2, 10/16, 10/29, 11/4 and 12/27 would make great offical releases, and thus won't be uploaded. But everything else should be. Needless to say, lossless and not just mp3 is an absolute must. I hope something happens soon. At the current rate of 10 shows per year, and estimating that maybe 200 shows have already been released and that there are a total of 2000 shows in the vault (which is probably not that far off), the vault will be entirely open by 2190. I feel pretty safe saying that none of us are going to be alive then. Please, get moving, take advantage of the energy this promotion has created and get the vault, or least a part of it, online ASAP. Thanks!
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    Michigan show's underrated a lot skipped
    From my 1st at Cobo 77, to Grand Rapids In Ann Arbor (DTE) Pine Knob then WHEN JERRY MADE THE SHERIFFS UNPLUG HIM MORE THAN ONCE. after 11pm 10k every 10 min for noise violations. He made all play he was not done. The Palace. Though vendors bailed on Detroit we have some excellent shows listen and you tell me.Smiley Dave Do For Other's You Will Feel Better. Guaranteed!
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    Any show with Brent.Or how about MSG when Branford Marsalis came out and played and played!!!!!!!!
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    6/5/69, 3/14/81
    6/5/69, the show Dark Star from day 2 of the 30 day thing is taken from, is just about a no-brainer. And 3/14/81 (Althea day 3) doesn't even circulate on SBD!
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    Road Trip: 06/27/84 Merriweather Post Pavillion
    There's a reason David Gans has played a lot of this show on the Dead Head Hour, it's great! I strongly believe that any '84 release should contain a "Help > Slip > Franklin's" since that is representative (as a "West L.A. Fadeaway" would be representative of 1983... hint, and perhaps an "Esau", also!). Look, 1984 is due to come up in the rotation at some point, right? Marin Vet's is OK (nice, even), but that has been around for a long time in very good quality, and it doesn't have the sizzle that this show has!!! This one's a keeper! I guarantee there will lots of praise for this representing '84! It's one of the best of the year, undoubtedly. Thanks! Tip o' the skull to ya! Plus, there should be lots of East Coasters and D.C. Heads that will pick this up, and many people who followed that tour! "Help > Slip > Franklin's" ALWAYS draws an audience, and that Set II is off the hook (as is the "Let It Grow", one of the funkiest and most ripping versions of the 80s! Listen to it!!!). A great "Brent show", also! Peace.
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    this is the first i heard of this does anyone have anymore info on this not much escapes me.
  • Steffi and Jochen
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    Rockpalast in Essen, Germany 3-28-81
    Why don't you release sth. from outside the US??? The "Rockpalast" show was incredible... the boys on foreign ground following The Who... and they did it well, folks! You could call the set list average, but... Sugaree, Shakedown, Deal, Estimated > He's gone > into a rare pre-drums O1 which ends screaming in hyperspace are worth to be officially released!! Everything after drumz is with Pete Townsend and the boys really take off during the 2nd set! No vocal glitches, no mistakes make this a very fine show...!
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    a grateful dead video game?
    It might be the last remaining audio visual frontier they have yet to explore. They could intersperse concert footage and base it on several timelines of interesting events. I'd like to see a computer game released.
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    8/5/79 Oakland Aud. Arena
    The matrix of this show was done very carefully and there deserves to be follow-up from the Rhino side and a release of this one in it's entirety similar to Nightfall of Diamonds. Note: This was a two encore show. Bertha>Good Lovin' the first encore and JBG the second.
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    Hey Crispy - You mean 90 or a Garden show?
    There is no Foxboro 91. The last time they played there was 90. Are you mistaking for one of the Garden show run in Boston that year?
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Our friends the Rhinos have various and sundry new releases in the development process, but they're always interested in hearing what you'd like to see hit the virtual shelves of the Store. No promises, but you never know...

This topic is for requesting new individual shows. There are also topics for box sets and DVDs.

If you've already requested something in the previous Requests topic, you don't really need to request it again, but hey, if you just can't help yourself...

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S, I have it all on a box set if interested. It's been 4 years since you posted the request...so you may have it or it may already have been released. Hit me back if you still are interested. GarchiaPet
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Great 2nd Set.7 Songs before drums/space. Jerry doing Pete Townshend windmills during I Know You Rider. Set 2 China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Space -> Drums -> Space -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia Encore Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Night
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Just missed The Frost. Heard it was a very cool place to experience a Grateful Dead show. Similar to The Greek. Caught one of the last Greek shows 89'
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Would love a DEERCREEK release. Only missed one run in nine years. Please.
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Every time I listen, I realize I forgot how GREAT a show this was!!! The scarlet/fire was yeah!!!!
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Want to hear another great Scar/Fire from 81? MSG 3/10/81 I hope for a 3/9 & 3/10/81 2-show release as this was one HOT visit to NYC ! The energy from the stage had clearly spread to the floor... iGrateful
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Portland is my favorite city, and has been home for 10 years now. I am very interested in The Dead's history of playing here. I bought the digital download of a show which I think was in '68 or '69 in Portland, but would like to know of more shows here and listen to them. This show also looks like it had a good setlist. No idea how the playing was that night, however. If it's good quality, would make for an excellent Dave's Picks.
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Dave's Picks has been an almost exclusively 1970's series (albeit with a toe dips into 1969 and 1980). Hope this is not heresy but I have kind of had enough. '72 and '77 WERE REALLY GOOD. Check! Got it. The Spring of 1990 was definitely not the only great latter day period. I hope to see some of the great 80's and 90's stuff next year. Thanks.
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How about 'The Last Ones', Winterland October 1974 box set? All shows, complete, CD and DVD/BluRay.Also, time to release 6-14-76 and 6-29-76 on HDCD.
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4/1/91 with the Playing from 3/31/91 as filler seeing how the Samson>Eyes is on the 9/25/91 Dick's Picks. 7/2/88 because 7/3/88 is in the box.
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maybe on the whole the sound quality isn't as fine as on many of the early 70s tapes, but the music...oooooh, the music of those days! transcendence. here's hoping for some of the early greats on future remasters. 10/12/68 at the avalon ballroom maybe?
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Love the whole Oct-Dec 71 tour. Would particularly like to see one of the shows from December, where both Keith is nice and prominent in the mix (his piano playing on this tour was awesome), and Pigpen is back with the band as well. Particularly 12/04, 12/05 or 12/15.
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80 and 81 i always considered strong years,
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These shows were excellent. A few weeks after the death of Pig, the set lists were strong and the playing was typical of the spring 73' sound. A lot of Wake material and some beautiful Dark Stars. Dave's Picks 16 was 1 week after these gems. Would really love to see 1 or both shows slated for a release.3/21 has a setlist to rival any other and the Dark Star > Eyes was phenomenal. Any thoughts? Anyone delve into or have experiences with these nights?
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Release was too limited. (Sold out before release day.) How about a hi-res digital download possibility? Thanks.
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Please release this, you Might As Well! Great fall '77 show.
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I'd be very into a boxed set of Warfield and/or Radio City 1980
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CD
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I'd like to se 12-31-1972 if the reels are in good shape. Not only is this the day I was born but after checking up I was born during the Other One to be exact. Ha...born under a good sign eh? Thanks Ma.
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After getting the Scarlet-Fire download from Cornell I had to listen to the 81 Denver again and please please please. I was my girl friends first show and she became a lifelong deadhead.
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The first set is very good, the second set is spectacular: Samson and Delilah It Must Have Been the Roses Estimated Prophet Franklin's Tower drums The Other One Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia This Stella Blue is my all-time favorite. It is diaphanous in the literal sense of being light, delicate and translucent. It takes a while for Jerry to solo his way out of a really powerful TOO (featuring a few Phil bombs) and transition into SB with a few clunkers on the way, but they only make it all the more wondrous when he finally gets there so plaintive it sends shivers up my spine. Even if you don't release it, give it a listen. You'll be glad you did. Why not do a Stanley Theatre box of 11-30-79, 12-01-79, 3-5-81 and 3-6-81? I can personally attest to their exceptional quality 'cause I was there for three of 'em and I've got a pristine 12-01-79 on cassette.
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For Jan. '78, Nov. and Dec '78. All contain segments of quite fantastic and unique playing. See: 1-13-78 Dancin' thru Wharf Rat, 1-15-78 Terrapin>Playing in the Band. I have to delve deeper into November, but Dave has played cool examples on JOTW and Taper's (11-18). As for December, I really like the run from 12-12 thru 12-19. Not sure what kind of board sources exist for some of these tapes, as 1-15 and 12-16 I have only seen as audience tapes I think.
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I'd really be curious to know if there's anything left in the Vault that isn't available - even in low quality - online (legally). Are there hidden shows from '66, for instance? Or do we basically know all that was recorded and are now waiting for official releases so that we get high(er) quality versions of shows we may already own?
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Either 88 or 89 would be fine with me.I personally only saw 6 or 8 shows in the 80s. All were really good except Minneapolis 1986 in metrodome. PS..interesting analysis in your link. Marketers might say the 70s are over penetrated, economists might just point to demand-driven availability.
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Either 88 or 89 would be fine with me.I personally only saw 6 or 8 shows in the 80s. All were really good except Minneapolis 1986 in metrodome.
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Oxford plains speedway track 2nd, 3rd July Maine 1988Best Crazy Fngers
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Seems like it should fall around the following: 1. Is there a complete, high-quality version in the vault? 2. Does the show already circulate in high quality? 3. Was there something exceptional about the show compared to others in the same time period? 4. Has this time period already been well represented in the stream of releases, or is it lacking? Certainly some time periods will merit a larger number of releases. 5. From a sales standpoint, is there a perceived desire for a particular release? This one gets rather subjective.
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I wish they would release a few shows from 94/95. At the very least a 3 disc compilation from the last year of the band.
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94 and 95 were included in 30 Trips.Some people broke up the box and sold the shows individually. Supposedly the late 90’s were the worst sellers. So, you may be able to find those shows on eBay or elsewhere for a good price. But, what about Gainesville?
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Would be wonderful in exceptional quality. Pacific Northwest Box is my favorite - exceptional shows and audio quality.
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I'd like to see virtual versions of Dave's Picks ,for instance release the 2017 Dave's Picks virtual this year (say at Christmas time) then release 2018 disc around Christmas 2019 or a year after the cd's so people that have subscriptions and or buy the actual disc have exclusivity for a year, starting with the 1st year of course :)

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12/6/73 Cleveland..cruel that the only way to get this is to buy the bonus cd from 2011 road trips for hundreds of dollars..This must be released in full :)

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How about UC Santa Barbara from 1974!!! Whoo hoo! Great Wall of Sound show! Very hot! Kind of country and laid back, but hot as hell!

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85 to 86 were my favourite

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Sacramento 1-17-78 and Stockton 1-18-78
Sacramento 6-29-79 and Sacramento 6-9 and 6-10 84

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I don't understand why they didn't realease "June '73" instead of "Pacific Northwest '73-'74". RFK 6/9-10/73 along with the West Coast shows starting in Vancouver on the 22. Would have been much mo betta.

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Having grown up taping shows in California in the early 70s, it has struck me for a long time how empty the discography is (Dick's & Dave's Picks, and other releases) for the second half of 1970. Nothing after 5/15/70. And this has some of the most amazing music the Dead played.

Yes, I know that many legendary shows (ex. Capitol Theater, Rochester, etc) only exist in audience, but there are a lot of soundboards - at least of which are complete. Others could be put together for a release - ex. 9/18,19,20/1970...
We have other stretches of time with many releases (spring 77) and they are good ones, but this key era in the Dead's musical history is sadly missing big time.

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11/19/72 Hofheinz round 2, with Dark Star with Philo Stomp. If not slated for possible inclusion in a box, would love to see this be DaP 33.

2/9/73, how has this not been released?

8/4/76, see previous note. Really wanna see this be the next 1976 release. An amazing performance that is hotter than most of the more laid back June and July shows. The Help Slip Frank is an all timer, up there with Buffalo for sure. The existing recordings have the best Phil sound I think I've ever heard, and he has an amazing night thundering along.