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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by dantian on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 02:13

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June 1973 6/10/73 RFK 6/22/73 PNE 6/30/73 Universal $100 It kind of fits nicely with the other mini-boxes...Winterland 1973, Winterland June 1977....and June 1973. I can dream, can't I... Edit: really digging 6/30/73 lately, in case you haven't noticed. The more I listen, the more I'm impressed. It's got that 1977 polish, but with that 1973 sound and vibe; most every tune is executed perfectly, yet still retains that edge that was sometimes lost or at least lessened in later years. Stand out versions of Cumberland Blues, Row Jimmy, and Black Peter especially. Damn, I should have paid more attention to this show before now. But better late than never ;)
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Submitted by hseamons on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 05:38

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You dropped the blotter box? Far out.
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 06:09

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To be a dad, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by Diggey on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 06:19

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As for the Wall of Sound Boxset idea, no matter if it is a big Boxset like all the shows not released or smaller blocks of a couple shows, I think it's a great idea and I'd be all over it. Also, Happy Fathers Day to all yinz dads out there. My daughter bought me the Purple Grateful Dad polo from this very Dead site. With my family and my lovely daughter and life, and all of this great music, I am indeed a very Grateful Dad!
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Submitted by Hoopsie on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 08:03

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ALL IN for smallish box sets (2-3 shows), a la RFK, Watkins, WOS, etc.And a Happy Father's Day and a Happy Solstice to everyone. It's a beautiful day in Lawrence, Kansas. Peace!
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Submitted by Forward on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 08:34

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1st Fathers Day for me today.Just started the first night of 1980 Anchorage AK (After listening to The Professor playing the the second set of 6/20/80 this morning) Looking to be a wonderful day!

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 09:02

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How many folks plan on watching the pay per view of the concerts?

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 09:03

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Love the June 73 box idea. 73 is such a great year to my ears.
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:15

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Floridabobaloo - I'm currently planning on going to the IMAX theater and see on the big screen. A buddy came up with tixs for Santa Clara, will be heading there on Thursday. Update - Just checked with the IMAX theater,,, not showing in IMAX. They have it in a little theater (200 seats) about 50 sold. So I just may watch the streaming version since I've paid for it. Might spring for PPV, then I can record on DVR. My buddy talks like he has the capability to record to dvd from his dvr. I figured all shows will be available on dvd or blu ray for Christmas. Thoughts?
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Submitted by impervious on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 10:12

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so i hear lots of folks who want more 80's shows to be released, and other's who aren't as enthused. we're talking boxed sets as well so.......we need to get the MPP shows of the 80's out there. 6 shows, likely 3 discs a show.....a nice little 18 pack. In any case, 6/30/85 must see the light of day. there are few (if any) versions of shakedown that compare...perhaps the 9/10/91 version that is about to be released. it's the show i always toss on when i hear folks pan the 80's. on another note, isn't the reason why 5/8/77 hasn't been officially released is because they don't have and\or lost the master? vicious rumor i know, that's just what i was told years back.....but that could have spawned from heads shaking their heads over why that show has never been released - i can see why one would need some sort of explanation for that :) perhaps it's because there are so many high quality recordings of it already available?
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 11:17

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....good call on that one dantian. Haven't listened to it in quite a while. I remember that show catching my attention years ago. There is a sweet matrix on the archive transferred by Chris Chappel. Grate show. Takes off during the first set Row Jimmy and never looks back. Plus, any show where the second set opener is Greatest Story, is O.K. in my book. ....to all the dad's out there, Happy Father's Day....getting ready to head to the water park. 113 degrees here in Sin City yesterday. Whew!!! The Electric Daisy Carnival is this weekend at the Vegas Speedway. Pray for those poor souls....
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Submitted by takimoto on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 12:21

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Not sure who posted about Walmart in Boston having Newsweek 50th but thanks! I checked and Walmart in Walpole and they had a few copies left too ... Saugus to far to ride
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Submitted by One Man on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:37

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Off topic and rambling, but -- I purchased one Download Series show several years ago (The Great Highway 2/4/70) and somehow the FLAC files would not behave with my file manager. So I forgot about it and bought no more downloads, thinking the problem was beyond my reach. Then today I randomly happened upon the FLAC files while looking for something else and brought them into my WAV editor (Peak LE for Mac). Each file (song) came in with 3 HOURS of incoherent digital noise at the end, which I easily edited out. Then I saved the files to WAV and knit them back together. And I gotta say, this download is extraordinary. The St. Stephen>NFA> St. Steve is unusual in arrangement (they skip the "lady finger" bridge altogether, maybe to just keep it rocking) and it segues into a slowly loping MIdnight Hour the likes of which I have never heard. The jamming in this is sublime. The filler songs from 10/5/70 and 12/31/70 are similarly odd. Where have I been all these years? It makes me want to spend the considerable dough to investigate the rest of the Download Series.
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Submitted by claney on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 15:47

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Hi Impervious - Yes indeed, 5/8/77, and many other great shows, have long been missing from the Vault. They were in legendary recordist Betty Cantor-Jackson's storage locker, and when she fell behind on payments the storage contents were auctioned off. Several individuals thus ended up with these precious reels. So on the down side, all those awesome tapes are missing from the Vault; on the other hand, copies of them have been circulating for a couple of decades. The reason you are seeing so much speculation about an imminent release of Cornell is that these so-called "Betty Boards" may have finally found their way back to the Vault. For full details, and a fascinating article, check out "What's Become of the Betty's" from Relix Magazine: http://www.relix.com/articles/detail/whats_become_of_the_bettys EDIT - PS: I was vociferous on this board that the big 50th release would be some kind of Betty Board release including Cornell. I'm still eating my hat, one tiny bite each day.
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Submitted by claney on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 20:47

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Hey One Man, That 2/4/70 show is a wild release. If you haven't heard it yet, DS 6 (3/17/68) is primo Dead, not just (arguably) the best of the DS, but one of their best releases, period. Also DS 4 (6/18/76) is lovely. There seems to be a consensus that the download series is hit or miss, so it's worth sampling first. You can find them all in Spotify, which is great for me because I despise paying money for intangible downloads; but I like the band getting royalties when I listen on Spotify. Even if you don't subscribe you can listen to those shows for free (plus all the Road Trips, Dicks Picks, etc).
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Submitted by dedhed76 on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 17:08

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Hi all, Just throwing it out there, I have a new in box E72, complete series, in the suitcase with everything. Still in the original shipping box. $600 includes shipping. Email directly to dmi953@aol.com if interested. Thanks
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Submitted by dedhed76 on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 21:01

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Gone in a flash! Thanks Eugene, enjoy!!
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Submitted by dedhed76 on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 21:01

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Gone in a flash! Thanks Eugene, enjoy!!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 21:34

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....at it's best. The wife and I like to watch food oriented tv. Just now, on a show called fast food flip, one of the contestants presented a sandwich called smoked stacked lightnin'. That was cool....looked tasty too....
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Submitted by rdevil on Sun, 06/21/2015 - 22:14

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Just wondering, has anyone else felt a little embarrassed to tell friends that they're spending $700+ on CDs? I got together with my cousin this weekend, he's who first turned me on the Dead but he's not into it to the point of collecting shows or even listening to complete shows. The new box came up in conversation but it was strange explaining the cost to him and his girlfriend. After all, this truly is a luxury purchase, at least for someone in my financial situation (teenagers and mortgage). But it's a purchase I ultimately felt I couldn't live without so I'll be working my ass off this summer to pay for it.
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 00:45

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I was speaking with a mate at the Pub the other week and was telling him about the box. His first question was how much and when I told him he just said that's really not to bad. He was a bit surprised it's only 700. But I look at it like any hobby or love one might have. Some people have classic cars, mortorcyles, some like to buy property and renovate to flip and make a buck. Home brewing. I personally have a 60 litre and a 50 litre Port keg. You want to know what a cooper charges to hand make a keg? Plus paying $7 to $10 a litre for bulk port. Since living down under my attitude to money has changed, partly due to my wife being really good at spending and budgeting. Now If I was still living in the States it would be harder for me to make the purchase, but I'd be working my ass off to make sure I'd get it. But I do feel a bit embarressed telling people the price I'm spending a this box. I know exactly where you are coming from.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 01:52

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After the customer service failure when this was announced, did anybody with issues ever get any type of compensation from CS or just an email saying they were sorry and thanks for your order ? When I spoke to the CS reps during this debacle it was made clear Upper Management was going to toss out a bone for going through that fiasco. But apparently that slipped through the cracks. The box better arrive flawless and no more slip ups. And no promotion for Father's Day,,, damn Rhino is slipping fast,, Garcia site has really stepped up their game and I think they even use the same shotty CS musicdirect. Leads me to believe it's Rhino slipping fast.
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Hi, Are you Australian or American?
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 06:15

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Anyone I would care to tell that I bought this box set at this price already knows that $700 likely represents less than 1/200-300th of what I have spent on tickets, travel, tapes, cassettes, cassette and DAT decks, CDs, hard drives and official purchases and downloads feeding this jones over the past 30 years.
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 08:29

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Volume 1, 4/30/77 is a must have! Classic 1977.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 09:18

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nearly flawless performance.. and agreed 4.30.77 Download plus filler is also essential. Dave's Picks is basically the Download series,, just cheaper without the packaging and physical product.
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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 09:47

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6/18/76 is also top notch. If you can't wait for the 30 Trips box to arrive, a few of these downloads will help. I'm not a huge fan of late 80's, but 3/27/88 download is really nice, with a killer Scarlet/Fire.
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Submitted by Ridin that Train on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 10:28

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I love the Fathead idea for the Wall of Sound box set. As an avid Adult fan of Lego, my dream has always been to see the Wall of Sound done as a lego set with the band in minifigure form on stage in front of it! How cool would that be?! There isn't any amount of money I wouldn't pay for that! HA!
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 11:06

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Yeah, it's a little embarrassing talking about spending 700 on CDs. I find I have to justify it with the "it's my hobby" defense. 1976 was the first download series I picked up. There is a really tight U.S. Blues on there (and how often does anyone say "check out THAT U.S. Blues...") You also get the rare Mission in the Rain, Mama Tried, High Time, and Crazy Fingers, as well as two Wheels (which is always welcome in my living room). But really, the U.S. Blues is the diamond in the rough, despite some low vocals. 1977 is indeed required listening. Also features the rare Mama Tried (lol - how rare can this song be?!?). But check out The St. Stephen => NFA => Stella Blue => St. Stephen - this is really an ass kicker, the way they slipped Stella in there, and just the performance of St Stephen and NFA - I usually don't like NFA in the middle, but it's sooo good here, it cannot be denied. BTW - Download Series 1972 has the only Stella Blue from '72 commercially available that I am aware of. The key to the Grateful Dead Download Series, is to burn them to CD. For some reason, I could not get into them when I was just listening off of the iPod. This sounds strange, but there is something to it psychologically...for me...what?
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Submitted by caution21470 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 11:18

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I got to do some hiking last weekend and for those of you that hike, you know it gives you plenty of time to let your mind wander. I thought about this box set and the business case behind it. A sentence stuck in my mind when I read the Rolling Stone article. It said something about having to obtain ‘rights’ or ‘licenses’ for each show. Did anyone else catch that? It got me thinking that the business case for a release might be pretty complex. To me, the tape is in the vault. Transfer it to digital do some mastering and produce some CDs. (Please excuse my brevity, I truly don’t mean to trivialize that part or the production process.) But what are the other costs? Is there some fee that needs to be paid to use the name of Madison Square Garden? Or Fillmore East? I forget that anything that is commercially released results in many hands stuck out looking for their share, even if it is the Grateful Dead. So balance all the costs (including the ones of which I’m unaware) against sales volume and price. There’s a minimum quantity that need to be sold to break even and then there’s the necessary quantity for the corporation to make a target profit. I’ll suggest, and now I become controversial, that some shows or years will sell more than others. The projected business case for some will be easily approved and others, well not so easily. I’m putting myself in Dave L’s position. How do we release shows that don’t support a business case? Here’s the genius. Pack shows whose business cases don’t work, with others that have an incredible business case. Personally, if these 30 shows were sold individually I’d only buy eight. But by me buying all 30, I’m supporting the release of great shows that may have never been because it wasn’t financially justifiable. Back to hiking….
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Submitted by Russyarrow@gmail.com on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 11:26

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That is such a hot show, good call. One of the best Dark Stars of the year.
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Submitted by MLavallee on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 11:37

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Venues require clearances for shows, yes. Madison Square Garden and The Hollywood Bowl are known for being very pricey. There's also the large amount of cover songs in each show that have publishing rights issues that need to be sorted out. When people moan about the price of a box set like this, just think of how many cover songs there are and how much of the profit needs to go towards songwriting royalties. Then there's the book, surely it will contain newspaper clippings and reviews, etc. Old show posters, well, there's some more clearance work required to use those. If there are any special guests (apparently the 1970 has some?) there's something else as well...
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Submitted by MLavallee on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 11:40

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I've said before and I'll say it again, I'd definitely be up for purchasing a box of the download series on proper CDs with proper covers, etc. I absolutely refuse to pay for downloads, it goes against everything I believe in!
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Submitted by caution21470 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 13:15

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11/10/6710/20/68 2/22/69 5/15/70 3/18/71 9/24/72 9/28/75 10/27/79
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 13:34

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11/10/679/24/72 9/28/75 4/25/77 10/27/79 5/16/81 10/21/83 10/12/84
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Submitted by chilly1214 on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 15:38

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I was born and raised in the U.S. but have been in Australia for nearly 7 years now. Check you PM.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 15:59

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6.30.74 has a Killer US Blues,, been hiding out, in a Rock n Roll band And yes indeed the Dark Star from 4.5.69 is a treat,, And one more,, KeithFan2112, I was gonna post about that Stella Blue,, I think you are onto something with that one. That Stella Blue creeps right in. And good Eye on the 1972. Check out the Ramble on Rose from that one. I think you will enjoy
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 19:15

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I want to see a pic when you are done. I have a 7 year old that loves Lego's, so I help him build them. The WOS Lego idea is worth doing and I can't wait to see a lego Jerry, Phil, Bobby, Keith, etc. Very cool. In fact, if Lego developed one, I would definitely buy it. I have a buddy that's a train fanatic. We have spent many a night drinking Bordeaux and Port till the wee hours re-building the Western Maryland train line in miniature circa 1950 or so, focusing on the Blackwater Canyon in WV. Its HO scale complete w/ waterfalls, a coal town in the mountains, beautiful cool scenery in miniature, etc. We even threw in some home made mini kayakers dropping off the waterfalls to make it seem real (even though people weren't kayaking waterfalls in the 50's). Anyway.. I digress, except that's where I am watching the PPV Fare The Well shows, and the GD always had great train theme if you think about it.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 19:11

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I had all the download series.. but had PC crash at about the same time both my music backups stopped working (the were the same model Western Digitals, and apparently that model had issues). Anyway.. I still had them on my IPod, so I got some software that pulled them down to my HD. ..but it only seemed to work alphabetically through the letter S. So I have all the Alligators through Smokestacks, but none of The Other Ones, Weather Report Suites, etc. This really only affected my download series shows. I'm with MLavallee, give me the physical product, it doesn't just puke and quit working, plus we get some usually decent artwork to look at just in case we are in the mood to zone out a bit..
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Submitted by MadDoc on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 19:13

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I ordered the 30 trips set when the announcement came along. Then, my credit card number changed. I called support to let them know my number had changed and they informed me that I had to cancel my original order and create a new one. Apparently they had no way to modify the order. I'm assuming if the set had been sold out I would have been out of luck. So, if your CC is going to expire or your number changes for whatever reason then give their support line a call ASAP. Frankly, I think it's unfortunate that they can't handle this sort of situation when a pre-order takes months to fulfill. I'm issued a new CC every time some big store is hacked which seems to be more and more frequent. I'm just hoping I can hold onto this number until September.
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Submitted by brokedowndude on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 20:25

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The loser and minglewood are completely outrageous as well..... Listen to the jam coming back in from the solo in loser...... Drums are just blazing.... And in the minglewood jerry literally does a leg kick and is hunching like a rabid dog during the solo.... I have never seen anything like it..... And then the U.S. blues..... Channelling his inner Keith Townsend, jerry rocks out the windmills with reckless abandon.... Check it out on YouTube... Your eyes won't believe it.... I'm guessing some rich duke kid had some killer coke and got himself backstage with it.... I've never seen the band so blatantly high on cocaine.... And forgive me, but I kinda think some shows are awesome because of it......red rocks 78 anyone??? Univ of Minnesota 71 ..... You know what I'm talking about........
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Submitted by deadegad on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 20:34

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Great show despite early mike problems. The film footage does show a very animated Jerry just like you say.
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Submitted by treyiswilson on Mon, 06/22/2015 - 21:01

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I also had my credit card number changed. When I called customer service they told me not to worry and that any previous purchases from my old card should be applied to my new card. She also said they can't change card numbers in the system right now and to call back in two weeks if I was still concerned.
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