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    FennarioXRDS
    9 years 5 months ago
    Songs and Failure
    The two things that separate the Dead from other bands, IMHO, are the songs of Hunter/Garcia and thewillingness of the band to go together wherever their collective or individual inspiration led, even if it meant they sometimes got lost along the way. It was that willingness to fail on stage that freed them to achieve the transcendent moments.
  • One Man
    9 years 5 months ago
    Nail
    Y'all are hitting the nail on the head with the jamband discussion. You're saying what I've been thinking -- that most of them are too quick to go for the easy groove without enough unpredictable exploration in the rhythm section. No one does it like the GOGD and that's a big part of it. The superior songs themselves are another vital ingredient. There are exceptions of course and your mileage will certainly vary. I'll take raggedy old space case Keith Godchaux over that Furthur virtuoso any day. Interestingly, there is a parallel discussion on classical music going on back at the Dave's #11 board (if you can find it). It also favors expression over technical "perfection".
  • mustin321
    9 years 5 months ago
    Bands (Jam or Not)...it all starts with a song.
    There are tons of bands/artists that stretch out songs and improvise on stage but they are never labeled as a Jam Band or heard on the Jam Band station or whatever... Why not? Who knows/who really cares? I think the main problem is that the bands that generally fall under the "Jam Band" Umbrella aren't the best at songwriting and place most of talents in the jam part...well, it shouldn't be a surprise that if you jam out a boring song, its still going to be boring. I say this but there are some "jam bands" I like but some really are just utterly boring, to me at least. Since I'm posting this post on Dead.net, I obviously think that Garcia/Hunter & Weir/Barlow are some of the best songwriters that ever lived. There were definitely songs that were built with heavy improvising being the main purpose but, for the most part, they were trying to write nice songs and the jams came later (I know some of this was already pointed out in previous post, but its correct). Playing In The Band, Dark Star, & Thats It For The Other One all started out as nice little songs, am I right? I don't really care if a band is considered a jam band or not or jams or not...if they write a good song, I'll listen to them and go to their shows.
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Grateful Dead Original Members Add Two Dates To Final Concerts

April 10, 2015

The original members of Grateful Dead have announced two additional shows at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California on June 27th and 28th, as part of their “Fare Thee Well: Celebrating 50 Years of Grateful Dead” run. Along with the three shows at Chicago's Soldier Field on July 3rd, 4th, and 5th, the run will mark the original members' last-ever performances toget

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Submitted by Dean720538 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:22

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Tried logging in on my laptop. No luck. Then saw this: Watch All 5 Nights Anywhere 2 Shows Live From Santa Clara 3 Shows Live From Chicago Available Worldwide Available on Desktop Only 30-Day Unlimited Video-On-Demand Tried logging in on my desktop, got in. Is this right - desktop only? Never saw this when I ordered.
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Submitted by Bad Seed on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:27

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has the webcast started? i thought is was supposed to start at 5:00, 2 hrs before the show?? my screen says "will start soon"
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Submitted by _ on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:30

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No pregame
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Submitted by mes7596 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:31

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I could not get in using Internet Explorer - must be something in my configuration.I could get in when I used Chrome. Good Luck!
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:35

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I'm on through youtube on WiiU. I thought I saw Roku works too.It won't work with my Amazon box. I haven't tied the youtube app on my samsung tv. I guess some work, some don't. Unfortunately my receiver in being repaired and I'm down from 7.1 to 2 crappy tv speakers.
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Submitted by Bad Seed on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:34

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bummer. thanks. thought i read different.
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Submitted by KristineD on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:36

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SiriusXM.com offers a free-30 day trial for their internet radio.
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Submitted by reverend on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:38

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I paid for all 5 nights video and got a message that my credit card had been billed. But when I try to watch get asked for a Username and password. I was never asked for a username. Tried the email address about 20 times, no good. Been on hold with the phone help line for an hour. Concert starts in 25 minutes. This is a PPV abortion. And of course there are lots of disclaimers about how there will be no refunds. MLB.com you seriously blew this one.
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Submitted by Felice Alecca on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:42

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Is it desktop only??? I can't get it on my laptop.........
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Submitted by KaneKoMia on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:56

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Desk Top Only - Seriously!
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:59

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my youtube backround FTW paper stopped waving in the background. This is either very good, or very bad, or I need more stuff to make it start waving again. oh, it'waving again. I'm worried. Getting another beer. Those ARE working!
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Submitted by mes7596 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 18:57

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I'm in on my laptop. But via Chrome, not internet explorer. With IE, I was getting the same login issue that others are having. You should be able to enter your email address and password that you set up with you did the "Redeem" from the email.
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Submitted by jayclark on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:00

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On my youtube it is as if the show hasn't started, maybe it hasn't I dont know
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Submitted by chrisrbush on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:01

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Same as you. I even emailed the customer service people. Any news yet?
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:05

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I'm on, I'm on, I'm on !!!youtube works. Nice stream on my tv. Cancel and try YT?
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Submitted by Ken Pendarvis on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:02

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Can't Login, paid for it and they charged my card.Been on the phone for 40 minutes. TYpical "New Comercial GDCluster F***'. after 50 years of loyalty you'd thinkit's be free.... Bwahahahahaaaa
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Submitted by motoman615 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:09

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Got on YouTube .have to have Google email account from what I can tell. No preshow camera movement/ inside or out of stadium. Would be nice to see what the scene looks like.
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Submitted by reverend on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:11

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Still can't get the video I paid for. They said the audio would be on XM, but they are playing a concert from 1984. Rip Off!!!!!
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Submitted by crunzo on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:17

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Paid twenty bucks and can't even get to a Login screen....sitting on hold with the Custer service line for 30 min....so frustrated, better get refund for this, talk about a letdown
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Submitted by jeffeis on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:17

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Sorry for all those having trouble logging in, try google chrome instead of internet explorer as previously mentioned. Wow, for a guy who's been "off the road" for 25 years (saw approx 150 shows, last in 1990), it's a little overwhelming to have mid-floor views on the big screen, so many memories are washing over me already. Really glad to be a part of this, no matter how it differs from the dream we dreamed long ago...
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Submitted by johnbgoode on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:19

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Doesn't work on IE but chrome is good. I'M ON!!!! Thanks Jerry! Username is email address.
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Submitted by GDrew on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 19:38

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can someone send me alink please cant find the show
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Submitted by seeing red on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:00

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YouTube stream works great on PC, iPhone,Chromecast, and even Roku (it;s SD on Roku, but they said it wouldn't work at all, so better than nothing).
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Submitted by seeing red on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:03

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I want to give Trey the benefit of the doubt, but he just looks like an outsider up there, doesn't fit in with the boys. Maybe by day 5 he will.
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:40

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Set 1 Smokestacky jam> Truckin UJB Alligator Cumberland Born Cross-eyed Cream Puff War Viola Lee Blues>rainbow jam Set 2
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Submitted by blue mike on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:16

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My friend texts it as Slipnot>Truckin'. Maybe the instrumental intro wasn't recognized. Totem: You're probably right. I think the intro was not recognized by my friend — or maybe she really wanted to hear it. I'll bet Trey is holding his own.
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:12

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the intro had a bluesy smokestack feel to it, no slipknot I could hear
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Submitted by boo-cat on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:13

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:), :), :) running just fine on the Mac system, tho couldn't get it to port over to the wi-fi & had to run a cable. As for hating on Trey; fer fucks sake, dude...." Shut up and dance"
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Submitted by blue mike on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:41

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My transmission from wrong planet. Thanks, Totem.
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:53

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Set 1 Smokestack Lightning Cream Puff War Limb by Limb Bertha Sneaking Sally Through the Alley Resurrection Jam Milking the Turkey Set 2
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Submitted by Totem on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:49

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Set 1 Smokestacky jam>Truckin UJB Alligator Cumberland Born Cross-eyed Cream Puff War Viola Lee Blues>rainbow jam Set 2 Cryptical Envelopment> Dark Star
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Submitted by boo-cat on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:50

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Rotflmao. Tho that was more 'Limb By Limb' than Reba...:p
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Submitted by deadhead12 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 20:56

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wheres the jam from on the PPV?
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Submitted by Spencergp68 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:01

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They looked a bit lost but trey owned cream puff war and from there it's been great. Trey brings it all together imo.
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Submitted by _ on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:03

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He doesn't suck....meant in a good way
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Submitted by Spencergp68 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:07

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Since I've been stuck here in the hospital for the past 3 days it's nice to hear some good vibes. Guess I'm lucky I got shut out of these shows, would've missed them anyway.
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Submitted by uconnjhd on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:10

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dunno but its good
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Submitted by baldomero on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:10

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It's moving to see the boys together again--- my wife broke into tears a few times--- I can't criticize, this is a dream come true. Phil looks vibrant and happy, they all do and they sound amazing after 50 years. Can't wait for Trey to let loose
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Submitted by motoman615 on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 21:12

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A few rough vocal moments but it had some high points. Long break !
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Submitted by blue mike on Sat, 06/27/2015 - 22:33

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What do you mean by that? @uconnjhd: I think you're right, and it's a clever way to point out another legendary long break, but perhaps also put them down for being old and slow. I guess I'm a little over-sensitive, as I am old and slow myself, and have had personal experience with defibrillators. They're not exactly something that you hit on like an asthma inhaler :-)