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    To Terrapin: Hartford, May 28, 1977

    And the whistle is screaming...
    ...Terrapin

    3 Disc Set


    Whether or not the fabled spring tour of 1977 was, as many Dead Heads believe, the strongest Grateful Dead tour ever, it was unquestionably a magical time stuffed-to-overflowing with amazing shows. Say the word “Cornell” to any hardcore Head and it means one thing—the 5/8/77 show at Barton Hall on the august school’s campus. But there were numerous other stops on the tour that produced monster shows, as well, from the five-night run at the Palladium in New York, to the incredible Fox Theatre in Atlanta (5/19 was part of the two-show Dick’s Picks #29), to the two Florida shows—Lakeland and Pembroke Pines (Dick’s Picks #29 and Dick’s Picks #1, respectively)—Tuscaloosa, Richmond… the tour was a scorcher from beginning to end.

    What was up? Well, by the spring of ’77, the Dead had been back on the road for nearly a year following their famous performing hiatus, so Mickey Hart was thoroughly re-integrated into the band, and the septet was hitting a new stride. There was a handful of great new songs being integrated into the repertoire, including Garcia and Hunter’s complex, epic “Terrapin Station” suite, Weir and John Barlow’s cool, off-kilter reggae tune “Estimated Prophet,” and Phil and Peter Monk’s rollicking “Passenger.” Those songs would form the core of the album that the Dead were recording in the winter of ’77 with producer Keith Olsen down in Los Angeles. Olsen was a sharp guy with good ears (as they say in the biz), and he worked the Dead hard in the studio, forcing them to play perhaps a bit more precisely than they were accustomed to. Now, one can endlessly debate whether the result of Olsen’s approach was ultimately an album that was a tad too precise—a criticism even the band leveled at Terrapin Station—but all the laboring over parts and arrangements in the studio seemed to have an extremely positive impact on how the band played live that spring.

    Which brings us to Hartford, Connecticut on the night of May 28, 1977—the final night of this Tour for the Ages, and the source of our latest release, To Terrapin. You’d never know from listening to this show that the band had been on the road for more than a month and 25 previous concerts, because it has that sparkle and intensity the band only had when it was fresh, feelin’ good and in full exploration mode. From the rippin’ “Bertha” > “Good Lovin’” > “Sugaree” trifecta opening, through the spectacular second set sequence comprised of “Playing in the Band,” a brisk and buoyant “Terrapin,” a fantastic one-of-a-kind “Not Fade Away,” “Wharf Rat,” and the “Playing reprise.” Definitely the band at its best!

    So, why put this out now? Why the hell not? And what’s with all the questions? Just enjoy it. OK, aside from it being a classic show worthy of release, we thought it might be fun to revisit a concert played in one of the venues The Dead are hitting this spring on their tour—that would be the Hartford Civic (now the XL Center) on 4/26/09… why, that’s the 31-year, 11-month, 2-day anniversary show of this epic ’77 show! Anyway, this three-disc complete show release has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs from the original reel-to-reel tapes by Jeffrey Norman utilizing the usual array of mysterious black boxes and sonic tools unavailable to us mere mortals. Artist Scott McDougal, who’s done such a bang-up job for us on the Road Trips series, has designed a beautiful package, and the always erudite Gary Lambert has contributed a fine essay which is accompanied by glorious photos of the band in Hartford in 1977. And because we know that in these tough economic times everyone could use a bargain, we’re offering To Terrapin at the very low price of $17.98 for all pre-orders placed on dead.net before the April 7th release date. That’s $2 under the suggested retail price. For the complete track listing and ordering info, click here.

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  • cosmicbadger
    15 years 7 months ago
    too much fun
    What with RT2.2 and Pure Jerry I had forgotten about preordering this one till I just got an email saying it had been sent. Un embaras de richesses!
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    DFBWM
    15 years 7 months ago
    Mystery Bonus Disc with the new Roadtrips
    Although not advertised, there was a bonus disc with the new Roadtrips '68 discs. The shows are from the Northwest tour the weeks prior to 2/14 (although there is no Clementine on them -- what were they thinking?). If there is a mystery bonus disc with this Hartford set, I will be upset because I would have ordered it. Oh well, at least I am thankful for what I have.
  • duplojohn
    15 years 7 months ago
    DOWNLOAD
    For decades DEADHEADS have been on the cutting edge of music technology. And here I still need to order a CD?? I recently set up for less then a thousand bucks a state of the art multimedia theatre and now to add these tracks I need to plug in a CD? WTF
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And the whistle is screaming...
...Terrapin

3 Disc Set


Whether or not the fabled spring tour of 1977 was, as many Dead Heads believe, the strongest Grateful Dead tour ever, it was unquestionably a magical time stuffed-to-overflowing with amazing shows. Say the word “Cornell” to any hardcore Head and it means one thing—the 5/8/77 show at Barton Hall on the august school’s campus. But there were numerous other stops on the tour that produced monster shows, as well, from the five-night run at the Palladium in New York, to the incredible Fox Theatre in Atlanta (5/19 was part of the two-show Dick’s Picks #29), to the two Florida shows—Lakeland and Pembroke Pines (Dick’s Picks #29 and Dick’s Picks #1, respectively)—Tuscaloosa, Richmond… the tour was a scorcher from beginning to end.

What was up? Well, by the spring of ’77, the Dead had been back on the road for nearly a year following their famous performing hiatus, so Mickey Hart was thoroughly re-integrated into the band, and the septet was hitting a new stride. There was a handful of great new songs being integrated into the repertoire, including Garcia and Hunter’s complex, epic “Terrapin Station” suite, Weir and John Barlow’s cool, off-kilter reggae tune “Estimated Prophet,” and Phil and Peter Monk’s rollicking “Passenger.” Those songs would form the core of the album that the Dead were recording in the winter of ’77 with producer Keith Olsen down in Los Angeles. Olsen was a sharp guy with good ears (as they say in the biz), and he worked the Dead hard in the studio, forcing them to play perhaps a bit more precisely than they were accustomed to. Now, one can endlessly debate whether the result of Olsen’s approach was ultimately an album that was a tad too precise—a criticism even the band leveled at Terrapin Station—but all the laboring over parts and arrangements in the studio seemed to have an extremely positive impact on how the band played live that spring.

Which brings us to Hartford, Connecticut on the night of May 28, 1977—the final night of this Tour for the Ages, and the source of our latest release, To Terrapin. You’d never know from listening to this show that the band had been on the road for more than a month and 25 previous concerts, because it has that sparkle and intensity the band only had when it was fresh, feelin’ good and in full exploration mode. From the rippin’ “Bertha” > “Good Lovin’” > “Sugaree” trifecta opening, through the spectacular second set sequence comprised of “Playing in the Band,” a brisk and buoyant “Terrapin,” a fantastic one-of-a-kind “Not Fade Away,” “Wharf Rat,” and the “Playing reprise.” Definitely the band at its best!

So, why put this out now? Why the hell not? And what’s with all the questions? Just enjoy it. OK, aside from it being a classic show worthy of release, we thought it might be fun to revisit a concert played in one of the venues The Dead are hitting this spring on their tour—that would be the Hartford Civic (now the XL Center) on 4/26/09… why, that’s the 31-year, 11-month, 2-day anniversary show of this epic ’77 show! Anyway, this three-disc complete show release has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs from the original reel-to-reel tapes by Jeffrey Norman utilizing the usual array of mysterious black boxes and sonic tools unavailable to us mere mortals. Artist Scott McDougal, who’s done such a bang-up job for us on the Road Trips series, has designed a beautiful package, and the always erudite Gary Lambert has contributed a fine essay which is accompanied by glorious photos of the band in Hartford in 1977. And because we know that in these tough economic times everyone could use a bargain, we’re offering To Terrapin at the very low price of $17.98 for all pre-orders placed on dead.net before the April 7th release date. That’s $2 under the suggested retail price. For the complete track listing and ordering info, click here.

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To Terrapin: Hartford, May 28, 1977


Whether or not the fabled spring tour of 1977 was, as many Dead Heads believe, the strongest Grateful Dead tour ever, it was unquestionably a magical time stuffed-to-overflowing with amazing shows. Say the word “Cornell” to any hardcore Head and it means one thing—the 5/8/77 show at Barton Hall on the august school’s campus. But there were numerous other stops on the tour that produced monster shows, as well, from… >>more

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To Terrapin: Hartford, May 28, 1977


Whether or not the fabled spring tour of 1977 was, as many Dead Heads believe, the strongest Grateful Dead tour ever, it was unquestionably a magical time stuffed-to-overflowing with amazing shows. Say the word “Cornell” to any hardcore Head and it means one thing—the 5/8/77 show at Barton Hall on the august school’s campus. But there were numerous other stops on the tour that produced monster shows, as well, from… >>more

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OK, so if anyone can see what make of cars they are, perhaps we could conclude that the next release relates to the city where those cars were or are produced. The image reminds me of the Neil Young website.
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Those look like early 70's Volkswagon Bugs, and the elongate license plates with the big block letters look European in nature. You do the math :)
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So you're thinking Europe 72, September 74 or an 81 or 90 show? The 90 shows would make sense after the previous release, although I don't know if a 90 release would be followed by a 90 release.
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Been awhile since a Europe release, since Rockin' the Rhine? ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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The picture is now completely in focus...but I still don't understand the significance of it. Please, someone explain it to me. The license plates? Is that information meant to convey something?
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There are Dead stickers on the cars. Is that it?
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Well, the one on the left is obviously Road Trips Volume Two, Number Two, but I'll be arsed if I can make head or tail out of PJ-8. Any other sharper synapses out there? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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On the RT reference. I can only surmise that the other plate is an old clue that Paul is dead.
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Nice work on the Road Trips Volume 2-Number 2! It seems so obvious in hindsight--why didn't I figure it out too? Anyway, we need to get the "PJ8" thing figured out now.
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I had a quick look at the show lists from 1990-95 and nothing resembles PJ8. Is it a highway or area code or something?
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Giving away really good tickets? "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"
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This might be Pure Jerry Series Volume 8.....Word is that it is a solo Jerry/Kahn acoustic performance from 1986. We shall see.
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mike dunn, I reckon you've hit the proverbial nail. The second number plate doesn't pertain to the first - it's announcing two releases!! Maybe? Although it would a first for a Pure Jerry release to be announced on dead.net right?
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Check out the dead.net store. There's now a Pure Jerry section. It also includes a Pure Jerry 8 / RTV2N2 bundle. I can't make out what the RTV2N2 is the but Pure Jerry appears to be the 1986 show mike mentioned. Well done! First place to mike.
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The RT appears to be a Carousel Ballroom release. I can't read any more than "Car-" but it certainly looks very 1968. I wonder what it will be - I guess highlights from the late March or late May/early June run, assuming that they're keeping the RT multi-show approach going.
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A new Pure Jerry release, and a new Pure Jerry section here...excellent news! I am just a little bit disappointed that "PJ-8" wasn't a "Paul is dead" clue after all. Ah well, back to spinning my Beatles vinyl backwards on the turntable...anybody know how to do that with a CD?
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In the store seems to have disappeared. It was there, wasn't it?
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I saw both PJ8 and RTV2N2 up on the store being offered as a bundle with free shipping -- they are no longer there. Maybe they need to fix something before leaving it up for good. Anyway, they will be selling Pure Jerry through Dead.net from now on. Do you remember the post that Blair Jackson made a while back? He said this site will become "the clearing house" of all things Jerry. He also said the long wait between Jerry releases was due to unresolved "legal hurdles". It looks like those hurdles have finally been cleared. The last Pure Jerry came out in 2006 -- I've been waiting!
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Well the cover image of the now-disappeared Road Trips image was based on the concert poster for the 14 Feb show - http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19680214a.html. Some posters on archive.org have identified this as the release but I wonder if they were relying on the cover art to determine the show. It also seems odd that a Road Trips release would comprise an entire show. Perhaps the release is an excuse to release the tidbits that David L apparently discovered recently - the Viola Lee Blues and Dark Star encore from around the end of Jan/start of Feb 68. I forget where I read about that...
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...glad to see the Offspring of Jer have managed to get things straightened out. Like others here I will buy most anything officially released, even if it's something I already have through "other sources" and even if Rhino & Co have a slight rep regarding quality issues both in sound quality and manufacturing. I figure my purchase helps support the cause, that's why I went ahead and preordered the Hartford '77 set along with the new RT and PJ issues. And getting the 10% discount for preordering through dead.net is pretty nice... ...of course, if I'd waited until today I would have seen the email I just got from Amazon, and I would have known to preorder the Hartford set from there and gotten a **25%** discount? Now how does that happen? Members of the family here, buying straight from the store here, can't even get the same deal that we would if we bought from the big-ass corporation? Buy from dead.net, 10% off. Buy from Amazon, 25% off. My money's tight, too, those hundred dollar show tickets hit kinda hard. That kinda sucks, honestly. Bet amazon's shipping is cheaper too. Damn, just can't win. ************************************** *The white zone is for loading and unloading only* **************************************
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I'm ready to preorder. Is there any advantage to ordering here over Amazon? Just want to take this opportunity to say again how spectacular these three resent releases are, especially when you consider the three releases together. We get one show each from the 60s, 70s and 80s, the 'emerging' Dead with Pigpen, a show from probably their best post-hiatis tour and acoustic Jerry...this really is something for everyone. Even those who prefer best of packages get the bonus disc from the latest Road Trips. Thanks to those who made these choices and keep the complete shows coming!
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This is my last pre-order through Dead.net -- Amazon wins every time in these situations. They have responsive customer service, an awesome track record, and cheaper/faster shipping (free if you spend $25). So, like I said, barring some extrememly special circumstances, this is my last pre-order through Dead.net on commercially available items.
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I will certainly buy this, but I am not doing so from whatever now passes for GDM. Why pay for the extra shipping and handling costs without a bonus disc or some other inducement than a $2 break on the cost? The package will be selling at Best Buy for about the price you can get it here. The bonus disc is the perfect inducement to get me to order right from the source. BRING BACK THE BONUS DISC. OK, that being said, this is an extraordinary show and despite a great matrix being circulated of it last month (one of the best I have heard from the '77 era), a remastered HDCD SBD version is certainly worth buying. Bring it on.
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Earlier this week when Phil and Bobby were on, they handed out a copy of this album to everyone in the audience. I would bet at least 3/4 of that audience had no clue who the Dead even are and they get the album free. I order these discs just to simply support the cause so I guess I should feel good about it?? "When the smoke has cleared she said, that's what she said to me. You're gonna want a bed to lay your head and a little sympathy"
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My cousin just called me and said isn't it great that the GOGD has just released a whole show for $14.99 ! I said no it was $17.99 I preordered it thru GDM and now Amazon has it for $14.99 ? Why am I buying any product from this site? There is no bonus disc involved and I get ripped for an extra $3 because i'm a devoted fan and buy everything music wise this site has to offer. The powers that be should take a good look in the mirror and do something about their own personal affront on their community. Thanx for the screwing !! Rogue
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For decades DEADHEADS have been on the cutting edge of music technology. And here I still need to order a CD?? I recently set up for less then a thousand bucks a state of the art multimedia theatre and now to add these tracks I need to plug in a CD? WTF
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Although not advertised, there was a bonus disc with the new Roadtrips '68 discs. The shows are from the Northwest tour the weeks prior to 2/14 (although there is no Clementine on them -- what were they thinking?). If there is a mystery bonus disc with this Hartford set, I will be upset because I would have ordered it. Oh well, at least I am thankful for what I have.
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What with RT2.2 and Pure Jerry I had forgotten about preordering this one till I just got an email saying it had been sent. Un embaras de richesses!
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I think I'll just buy the new release at my local record store on the day it comes out for the same price, rather than sitting here empty handed on the day it comes out.
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I didn't preorder this release, I waited till today, the official release date, to go to my local record shop and picked it up for $16.99, no shipping charges. Rhino got their cut, the guys got their cut, and the shop took the hit on the lower price. Enough said on that. Old burned out freaks like myself don't have a lot of spare cash to drop on every release that comes out. I buy the releases that are only available online from dead.net, and get the value of the bonus disks, the rest of the stuff has been scrounged up from online auctions, used record stores, and flea markets. I know that everyone in the distribution chain is doing a job, paying bills, and needs every cent they can get. Most of the fans that contribute to the ongoing circus are in the same boat. We do what we have to do to get the music we love and still respect the band. We love the work that goes into putting out great shows like Hartford, but we need a break too. There use to be much more available, free shows to download from current tours and soundboards loose in the wild. The Grateful Dead packed every venue they played at the height of the taper era and shared SBs in the 80s and 90s, maybe the guys would pack them to the rafters again if they made the magic just a little bit more available, and reasonably priced. Thanks for reading my rant. "When I die bury me deep, put two speakers at my feet, pair of ear phones on my head, and always play The Grateful Dead."
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I just saw that "To Terrapin" is available on iTunes for $14.99 for those iPod lovers. (I'd still rather have the physical disks!" "When I die bury me deep, put two speakers at my feet, pair of ear phones on my head, and always play The Grateful Dead."
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Mine still hasn't arrived. Goodbye..you have lost a lifetime customer!
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good lord, what an ornery lot! name for me one other band of its era who are issuing at least a half-dozen high-quality archival releases every year? i may not love every little twist and turn in the journey (e.g., packaging, show selection, shipping methods, etc.), but i'm awfully grateful to have so many opportunities to explore new facets of the band. apparently i'm in the minority. as for the hartford show, mine arrived this afternoon. i'm only halfway through the first disc, but so far it's killer. great version of "sugaree." can't wait to hear the rest.
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Not just for this release, but for having been blessed enough to have been listening to the guys since'69. I didn't see any shows from '73-'77 as I had pulled a T.C. and joined the air force to avoid the draft. I spent most of that time in Australia, and the guys didn't make it down here. Oh well, water under the bridge. As much as I have loved the AUD and SB tapes over the years, I truly appreciate the release of remastered full shows. I downloaded the Spectrum shows when they were released, ordered "To Terrapin" the day the pre-order was announced, and will continue to buy remastered full shows as they come available. Keep them coming! How about something from '73 and '83? At any rate, my copy arrived yesterday, and it went straight from the mailbox to the stereo. Smokin' Prophet > Playing > Terrapin, trippy Candyman (thank you Travis Bean), and one of my all-time favorite Jack Straws, God, I wish I'd been there.
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Just got this today. Can't stop playing the 15 minute "Not Fade Away" 3/4 way through the show. I have at least 500 hours of GD on CD. Nothing compares to this one song. It's just exactly perfect.
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One note - the cardboard cover is so tight that the board around disc 3 has already ripped. Roadtrips 2.2 the same - could hardly get the second disc out, and was worried about scratches from the "raw" cardboard cover. So - can we have some more care over the packaging And when do we get downloads?
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It sounds so crisp Kottonmouthjeff
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first of all I got it right away and another thing I was quite please to find is that while ripping it to Itunes all of the discs had the same name. I can just go to my ipod and have the whole show in running order without having to change a thing or select anything else. the cds themselves on the stereo system so far sound amazing. thanks!!!
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after a very long day at work and this shiny parcel from the DeadStore shows up and you take icy vodka from the fridge and start grooving to this crispy mellow sound and new rising springtime vibes! utterly love it!
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and loving it. Crisp clear sound. The slight 'big room' echo on the vocals and audience sounds help create a concert hall ambience. The performance is great throughout; Disc 3 is a joy. Still, I don't quite buy Gary Lambert's suggestion that this show could be THE peak moment in GD history, but for me this (alongside the Winterland 73 set) is by far the best release to date in the Rhino era. Mind you, I am still awaiting the New Road Trips from '68. And yup the packaging tore when I tried to get one of the CDs out. Grrr
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I preordered a month ago and it shows up on my order history, but I haven't gotten a notice that it has even shipped yet. Tried customer service and get an error message. Hey now! Jeff VanderVeen "May the 4 winds blow you safely home."
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send me a PM with the details and we'll get it straightened out. Sorry for the hassle.
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I woke up this morning to find this on my doorstep. Apparently I stepped over it when I came home late last night from coming home from seeing Ramblin' Rose here in Portland. A great local Dead cover band. (For all you Portlanders out there, you should all get out there and see these guys, as well as the Garcia Birthday Band. Good times, good times)Back to the CD though. I'm truly amazed by the sound quality here, as almost all '77 shows were recorded so well. You really can't go wrong with this one. It is classic. Even if you already have the other shows released from this tour, if you enjoy those, you'll love this one.
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Mine arrived yesterday and listened to the 1st disc this morning, it was great,brings back a lot of memories.I saw the Richmond show 3 days earlier and have to say it was one of the best shows I had ever seen.
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Just received my copy of "To Terrapin". After listening to Minglewood, I realized again what an in-sync, finely tuned, well crafted watch the Dead could come across as when they were really on.
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The cardboard jacket did rip getting the CD out, not the first time it's happened. I bet some college design student could design a package that is eco-friendly and not a pain in the butt. It is pretty though, before it tears. That's the small bad; the major good is this great show with this great sound. The opening triple-play is dynamite, and I'm sure more will jump out at me as I listen more. I got my RT2.2 last week (which is also terrific [also tore the sleeve]) and the comparison of the two shows ten years or so apart is fascinating. Interesting that not one song from the '68 show is on the '77. I guess they had so much new stuff happening they just weren't that into the old. Anyway, it's all good.
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They could have slapped some Bonus tracks on Disc one as it runs a tad short. I guess I'm just left wonderin', and enjoying what's there. Listening to disc 3. So far, pretty mellow. So different from the '68 release. Guess that would be pretty obvious given the shapeshifting nature of the Dead over it's 30 year run. Enjoying it immensely.
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Haven't recieved yet....waiting on the mail. I know it should have shipped the 7th _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Did you get an email confirming that it shipped? Did other people? Jeff VanderVeen "May the 4 winds blow you safely home."