30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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October 10, 2015 - 5:54am

#2961

wjonjd

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@william

I deleted my response because it was incorrect. There was an update to Redbook standard that includes CD-Text to store album name, track names, and some other info. These are not ID tags. The CD-Text is not what computer software like iTunes, winamp, etc, uses - these pull info from internet databases, although some can also read CD-Text. But, stereos, cars CD players, etc., read the CD-Text information from the CD.
October 10, 2015 - 5:35am

#2962

wjonjd

Joined:
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@KeithFan, Steve Jones - ripping to Itunes

I don't think KeithFan was asking what quality settings to use in his mp3's, but rather, whether there is a quality difference when ripping to mp3 straight from CD, or converting wav to mp3, using iTunes. I use ITunes also, so after seeing Keithfan's comment, I did some testing with AudioInspector, and got results I was not expecting. I used the Music Never Stopped track from the '95 show in the 30 Trips box. First, just so you know what I used for testing, when ripping into ITunes to mp3 I use 256 vbr with all other settings set to highest quality - I've tested, and I cannot hear the difference between this and 320 cbr at all, and these are about 15% smaller files. Your mileage might vary. For this test I ripped directly from CD to ITunes mp3, and then used dbpoweramp to rip to wav file, then imported the file to iTunes and converted to mp3. The resulting mp3 are very similar (almost identical) in every respect except one - the total frequency range. For some reason the frequency range from low to high is 13,479hz ripping right from CD into ITunes mp3, but 15,202hz importing the wav file then having iTunes convert to mp3. The actual range analyzing the wav file ripped from CD is 16,322. It appears that having iTunes convert wav to mp3 is superior to having iTunes rip straight from CD to mp3. One other interesting thing I found. I found clipped samples in the iTunes mp3's regardless of direct from CD or from WAV, even though there are no clipped samples on the CD or in the extracted WAV file. One of the options under mp3 in iTunes that I use is the "Filter frequencies below 10Hz" option. These frequencies are completely inaudible, and the description of this option is: "Select to filter inaudible frequencies, which results in smaller, more efficient files without perceptible loss of quality." Well, it turns out that when I turn this option off, and use iTunes to rip from CD to mp3 or import the wav and convert to mp3, no more clipped samples! And, the mp3 files sizes were virtually identical with or without the 10hz option set. I will no longer be using this option. To answer your question, since you're already ripping to wav anyway, having iTunes create mp3 from the wav files is actually superior (and faster) than having iTunes rip directly from CD to mp3. I tried to determine why it was truncating frequencies (it wasn't the 10hz option which had no effect on this), but there is no option that accounts for this. It just does it. As Steve mentioned, you may as well store your lossless backup files in a lossless compressed format, like flac, shn, or apple's lossless (alac). I'm assuming you are not using the lossless files as your iTunes database or you wouldn't be doing both mp3 and lossless, so any of the above lossless formats would work fine, and make your files almost half as large. Apple products won't play any lossless compressed formats directly except alac, but several other players will play flac directly without your having to uncompress them first. Hope that helps!
October 10, 2015 - 5:17am

#2963

drcomedy1966

Joined:
August 28, 2015

Customs charges

Steve, did you go ahead and pay the charge online? And do we have to do this before they will deliver? DHL couldn't tell me anything when I called them....
October 10, 2015 - 5:07am

#2964

jcure

Joined:
November 1, 2010

Passes

Haven't received boxzilla yet but would love to trade for 6/21/93 pass - my first and only show. Will update when mine arrives.
October 10, 2015 - 5:06am

#2965

william.jasinski

Joined:
October 9, 2015

ID tags

It's weird, because the CD player in my car showed song information. So it's on the discs somewhere.
October 10, 2015 - 2:46am

#2966

Alain

Joined:
June 8, 2007

DaveStrang, Richard

I sent you a PM. :-)Nice to see so many people happy to have received the magic box! Alice, like you, I'll listen chronologically to one show a week.
October 10, 2015 - 2:11am

#2967

AliceD

Joined:
September 4, 2007

945 arrived!

Raining in Pittsburgh today. I was snoozing on the couch with my cat Jack snoozing on my chest. He suddenly jumped off me in fright which woke me up. I heard the sound of a truck driving away and saw it was the UPS guy. Peeked out the window and the box was sitting outside the door. Gotta thank Jack for not allowing box to get wet! I know I'm in the minority here but I've decided to listen chronologically to one show a week. Oughta keep me smiling thru another depressing Pittsburgh winter. Enjoy everybody!
October 10, 2015 - 1:50am

#2968

drsox

Joined:
June 18, 2015

DHL and import charges

In Europe what you will pay to import this box is made up of three charges : 1. Import taxes (anywhere from 0% to 16% in my country). Fortunately these CDs are at 0% in my country. 2. Sales Tax (VAT, TVA, MwSt, BTW, MOMS etc etc) - 21% in my country. 3. DHL handling charges for dealing with 1 and 2 - € 14 in my country. It also depends on the value of the box - less than $ 25 or so and there's no charges. More than $ 25 and you get hit with 1 2 and 3. Doesn't matter whether it's a gift or not.
October 10, 2015 - 1:26am

#2969

Steve Jones

Joined:
February 19, 2011

Custom charges and ripping sound quality

To deal with two of the questions raised here:Customs charges are unavoidable on packages on this size and 88 quid seems about right. Nowadays small packets like the dps will slip thru the system as it is not worth the effort of recovering the various dues even though they recently changed the regulations in the uk anyway so that they could do this on such items. However, an item valued at 699 dollars and packaged in a huge box will not be "slipping thru" so we are stuck with the charges. On this international customers should check not only their mobile phones for text messages from Dhl but also their landline answering machines or message services - I got an audio message from Dhl giving details of how to pay the charges online. Don't wait for the email from dead.net to arrive. On ripping your CDs. For general use just rip to 320kps MPs. Unless you have bloody good hearing or a very good sound system you will not notice any drop in sound quality. For backup copies which can be used to burn new CDs for example or play on a high res machine ( assuming you haven't gone for the usb stick which contains actual high res files) rip to flac or wav or even just use the alac option on iTunes which will give you the same lossless quality with smaller files.
October 10, 2015 - 12:23am

#2970

planet1

Joined:
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Marye

Please can you comment, I've just forked out another £88 duty charge, is this correct? Bummer I say if correct for UK heads. I'm moving back to Cali, F this can't afford to keep paying for extra duty. I'm happy the Dave's Pick's don't have a duty charge, although In the past my Road Trips did and i questioned that too and looks like i was paying extra, so that is why i am asking again?

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Sorry

Shitty day. My apologies.;0)

30 trips box

Hi dead land I just had to cancel my order am recovering from my 3rd back surgery I'm really embarrassed for even asking a miracle for this box set but I am don't want to tell my hole storyy so people feel sorry for me but this is now the only way I would be able to get my hands on this I'm a mojar 80s-90s fan so this is the best release by far for me if no one can all good peice everyone and I also have the 73 and 77 box sets with bonus CDs with both boxes I would give if I get the help

Loser

Loser from 3/24/90 simply SMOKES!

All the years combine ...

I've come to appreciate the band's 30 year journey as one long trip with many peak experiences. I can't quite wrap my head around a favorite era, but rather acknowledge there were some consistently strong years, show in, show out. Sort of like that roller coaster ride where the car slowly climbs upwards out of the gate, you just know you're going to enjoy the ride. 1967, peaking with the thrill of the initial rush, release and momentum that carried them through to '71 when they began a second ascent. Climbing to another mountain peak 1972, running in full tight jam-mode through '74. For me, another peak around 1977 although shorter and not quite as brilliant. Then some new sparks with Brent and the acoustic sets in '80. Must have dropped a second hit early 1987 which initiated a second-wave that spiraled upwards to space, gaining speed and transcending time through the Spring '90. After that it was all downhill from there, all-be-it a mostly soft landing. But looking back it really was all-good. I love this music!

30 years

Thirty years of rapture.

Guests

Hi bolo24, I'm late to the game of guessing guest appearances for this weekend, but what the hay. Guests = 2 First Guest = David Nelson I noticed weeks ago that NRPS are playing in Chicago this weekend, with a late show time each night. By the way, I (we) enjoy the clues you provide regarding the upcoming Dave's Picks releases. Do you mind giving us a clue for Dave's Picks 15 once the '50th Anniversary' weekend hoopla quiets down? Gracias muchas! -Andy

Ugh

Please ignore my previous post. My careless arse posted my guess to the entire board. I guess I'm disqualified (although confident in my guess). Y'all enjoy Chicago this weekend!

Tonight's opener

For some reason I'm thinking shakedown or help/slip frank opener, help/slip possibly to start 2nd set If not 1st

Wow, Minas

I'm a '68-'77 guy, and we're all entitled to our opinion, but maybe "travesty" is a bit of hyperbole? Spring '90 might not be a "just exactly perfect" tour, but it's definitely the best run since Summer '85, and possibly since Spring '78. 3/24/90 is an all-time show, and there are some seriously great moments to be had in 3/16, 3/22, 3/29, 3/30, and 4/1. One can definitely hear Jerry's decline from '77 on (with mini-revivals sprinkled throughout), but I don't think even '95 is a "travesty". It's just not as good as '90, which isn't as good as '77, which isn't as good as '74, and so on. I agree that FW69 and E72 are THE releases so far, but you can't listen to 26 shows for the rest of your life. Try Spring '90 again. It's still better than anything without Jerry on it, and you may be surprised. At the very least, it keeps the REALLY good stuff ('72-'74) from getting stale.

Howdy Mr Jack Straw

I think Mina's post was implying a travisity in regard to the ravage that drugs brought on the band. Maybe the music isn't to his liking, but the point that Jerry could be with us in Chicago this weekend, but isn't, is the product of bad choices.Writing on these boards can be a difficult way to make ones point. I could be wrong, but that's what I got from it. Cheers to all. 3 shows left, wow.

1980 in Lakeland

My profile picture is from this,show. Think I got a tshirt with the Dead Ahead pict. Tampa, Daytona, Reddick, Micanopy and Orlando friends along. Great show. I've got the Jester shirt on.

Seminole Steve

Let's hear it for F L A

Instead of blowing my money on fireworks....

....I blew it on tonight's show. But, that's not really blowing it, now is it?

just bought a simulcast ticket for 7/5/15

:))) Air conditioned theater in a big seat. Yeah.

You and me both, Vguy

I was checking out a few snippets of last night's show on YouTube and it was really quite good. The nostalgia bug bit me hard and I just had to get the ppv for tonight. Got my wine in hand, and ready to rock. Happy 4th all God bless America, and God bless the Grateful Dead

Cumberland repeat....

...fukin A. Best song to decide on...

Yep. A good move.

Now I wish I was there.. but some years you can't do it all, now.. can you. Glad I can at least stream it. ..and yes, Dantian.. enjoying a good bottle of red myself.

Mr. Bob Dylan

Here's to hoping Mr. Tambourine Man himself shows up tomorrow night.Cheers & Happy 4th folks! ;)

Grateful Phish!

I've been a Dead fan since '76 when I heard a radio show from Boston Music Hall. Got tons of music, like so many do. Since '99 I've been really loving Phish and I think this line up with Trey is just pure heaven. :). Happy 4th everyone!!

Grateful Phish!

Feel the same, Jim

After watching some of last night's recaps, and getting all teary eyed and sentimental (wife walked in and was like, "Are you OK?" lol) I was actually looking for tickets online this morning and scheming about going to Chicago last minute. She was not down with such craziness, though. Sure wish I was there now.

Absolutely!

I actually got teary-eyed. Seeing the guys together again having so much fun... Just brought back so many memories.

set list?

Can someone post the setlist or a link for tonight's show? Any thoughts or reviews? A while back I posted about telling my cousin about purchasing the new box and how I was a bit embarrassed to tell him how much it cost. He called me this morning and said he couldn't resist yesterday and spent almost $800 on two tickets for him and his girlfriend last night. He was pumped about the show and that almost inspired me to buy the PPV. But the only option on Comcast seemed to be $40--I've got plenty of video that I virtually never watch so pulled out Crimson White and Indigo and watched that instead. Pretty kick ass show and Phil is on. Maybe I'll spend the money tomorrow night...

Possible guests

I think Bob Dylan is touring Europe right now so he seems to be doubtful for tomorrow night. Funny that there's been no chatter about Bolo's latest contest. My first thought was that the best guess would be no guests at all since that might somehow take away from the "core four" who are already sharing the spotlight with Trey and Bruce (and Chementi). But I was/am really hoping for an appearance by Donna Jean; and David Nelson seemed to be a natural fit since NRPS is in Chicago. If he wasn't invited to play on Ripple or FOTD it seems doubtful he'll be there tomorrow.Since so many people made the same guess at the very first minute in the last contest I decided to go out on a limb with a far out guess: Keith Richards. The Stones were in Indy on the 4th so maybe he'll stop by for a Satisfaction encore or first set closer. Actually, that sounds beyond ridiculous. What was I thinking?

Possible Guests TOO

Yes, no chatter about guests. In typical fashion, I missed the time for the Bolo contest (significantly). So in the five min or so it took to think up some names and check their tour schedules, I realized every fucking body (except me) is in Chicago right now. Melvin Seals, David Grisman, David Nelson, Mahatma Gandhi, Elvis, Roy Orbison, Janice, Jimi (I can do this all night.).. So I frantically put five names down, quick, and hit send, quick. Only after I hit send did I began to give it some serious attention, but surly in jest.. I am no better at solving Bolo clues than I at double Jeopardy. one edit: for me, Jorma would be a welcomed guest. He did a masterful job on Sugaree at the Dear Jerry show, really special. Plus, did anyone else besides me pick up on what a beautiful new guitar he was sporting? A magnificent instrument. By the way, what about Phil's (new to me) bass? Another spectacular instrument, real art and I'm happy to see these guys use them.

Setlist Chicago 7.4.15

been tryin Space, it's ruff out there...Set:1 Shakedown Liberty M&MU Standing on the Moon Tennessee Jed Cumberland! Rooster FOTD Deal Set:2 Bird Song THE GOLDEN ROAD!!! Lost Sailor> Saint of Circumstance!!! West LA Fadeaway (THIS is when Bruce & Trey took hold of the drivin') Foolish Heart> Drumz/Space!!> Stella Blue> Saturday Night ~~~~~~~~~~~~ US Blues (Fireworks to orchestra music, with Phil on stage mock-conducting, classic stuff!!) set:2 pre-drumz was well over an hour... & was absolutely fantastic! ♤

Chicago

To Go OR NOT To GoSure I Would Love to be there through the good, bad, and ... I'm in Northern Michigan, I think I hear it across Lake Michigan. Yes, Satellite radio with pre-show commentary from our Tales from the Golden Road Boys. Just to hear the music Kicks Ass. Saw 1st Santa Clara thru nugs/MLB (trademark/steal your face) Think I'll stream video again Sunday. SOUNDS GRATE!!!

Oh Chicago

Man, I sure wish I could make a show this weekend. The universe worked completely against me starting from before the mail order, Ticketmaster on sale date and a number of other attempts to score a ticket for any show. I watched the PPV on Friday and it has only made me wish I was there all that much more. Damn I live close to Chicago and got totally shut out from a once in a lifetime experience. ;( A lot of it is nostalgia, but, when it's done, it's done, and all that will be left will be the memories. I'm lucky that I got to see them as often as I did when Jerry was alive and am Grateful for that. Admittedly, it's going to be tough to not sulk for a while though for missing out on this weekend (I tried)... ...unless they decide to say "fuck it, we're not ready to retire yet". Wishful thinking....sigh...

Set Lists...

I couldn't help but think that a couple of these set lists would have really pissed off some folks here. I went Friday and loved it, and couldn't believe how much of Blues For Allah they played. No disappointments for me, and Ripple is my favorite song on the planet, so to hear it semi-acoustic for the first time since Radio City was truly special. Seems like there have been two shows out of four where they haven't ventured beyond '78 in their set list, with night 1 in Santa Clara being the most focused on early stuff. I'm going with my wife tonight and looking forward to another memorable show. I thought about my Friday show all day Saturday. I can't remember the last time that happened after a concert. I would think there would be no guests based on the first 4 shows, except for Bolo's contest. I think it would be cool if the opened with Tomorrow Is Forever, sung by special guest Donna Jean Godchaux. But I don't get to officially guess, since I am already basking in the glow of my recent Bolo Contest. Have fun tonight. I'd be very surprised if the set list was as "mundane" as last night. Either way, I am sure there will be tears shed.

better review of 7.4.15 on the FTW Complete boxset thread...

agreed 'cuse that 1st set last night took a minute to come together & the list wasn't so awesome (check out my extensive review on the FTW Complete boxset thread) but that second set was dizzying......where u sittin tonight?? tryin to say hey to anyone on this thread who's in the house!! (DEFINITELY see u later, Rory!!) everyone have an EPIC final show, wherever you're enjoying it!!! Not Fade Away opener tonight!!!!! ♤

We'll be in section 332.

sweet, thanx...

...hope to meet u later!

Trade

Hello everyone just wanted to no if anyone was interested in trading I have 73 box and 77 box both with bonus CDs am looking for Dave's picks 1-10 if anyone wants to make a deal pm me thx

Jim, re: Possible Guests

I didn't know Grisman was in town, thanks for the heads up. I would love to see him make an appearance, it would be very fitting.

can someone post link?

can someone post link to live broadcast please-7/5/15

Link

mlb.dead50.com should work. They're getting a late start.. I think you still have time. ..yes, Dantian, would love to see half the other bands that are currently playing in Chitown sit in for a song, including the Dog. Good times..

miracle link

need miracle link please

I totally agree with you. I

MinusMorgal--I totally agree with you. I went to my first show in 1985 and ended up going to 23 overall. Most were great, a couple not so good. But now I find myself only listening to shows up through early 1978. I can't listen to anything after that, including any of the shows I went to. I'm kind of glad I didn't know how great the early stuff was back then.

Buzzed & honest...

How anybody could find 3-29-90 a travesty is WAAAYYY beyond me.One of the greatest recordings of ANY kind of music of all time. Uh...in my opinion.

Fall 94

Was listening to some shows from fall 94 over the weekend (mostly because it was my last favorite tour) and man, Oct was something else....definitely some stinkers, but between 10/1, 10/5, 10/14, 10/18 and others, there was definitely something fun happening with the band! Hope everyone enjoyed the shows this weekend!

The contest that wasn't

Well, so much for guessing the guests - a big "nada!" I had been hoping for Donna Jean on a couple tunes and at least a cameo by Robert Hunter, but I guess this really was all about the "core four." Needless to say, no one guessed "zero" and "nobody," so I'll roll the prize(s) over to another contest in the future. So, farewell to "Fare Thee Well." Some great moments in those 5 shows. In the meantime, life goes on. And the music never stopped.

30 Trips...

OK, now can we see the box? pretty please??????

Re: jrf & 3/29/90

I got your back on 3/29, jrf, one of the truly great shows in GD history. I have had a good board of that show for as long as I can remember. There's youtube coverage of a good bit of that show also. but when I cycled through Spring '90, in its entirety.. it was the under the radar shows that captured my attention. I thought 3/14 and 3/28 sounded fresh and spirited. Sometimes its how a show compares to expectations that's grabs you. A lot like the Fare Thee Well shows, exceeded my expectations. My views are much like rdevil's. I have my favorite shows/era's/styles, but what I like certainly spreads beyond years and band lineups.

jrf68 / jackstraw2222

jack straw - thanks for getting what I was saying. jrf68 - I'm saying that I have no choice but to listen to a show like 3/29/90 in its proper historical context, which is in comparison to performances by the "old" Grateful Dead. For me and many others, it stings the ears to hear Brent Mydlands backup vocals and keyboards on songs like Cassidy, The Wheel, Bertha, Eyes of the World, Estimated Prophet etc, and by comparison, it is a travesty (in the literal meaning of the word); which is to say, a substandard, inadequate representation of something that was originally much better. His vocals just don't sound good on those old songs to me and many others, so it kind of ruins those songs for us. That's all I'm talking about. Never in a million years could I put on Bertha from 1990, compare it to any performance between '71 and '78, and say, yeah, this is the better version. I'm just not a fan of that plinky keyboard sound or overwhelmingly loud Hammond organ; and Brent sounds like he's struggling for breath when he sings, so it just results in this quotient that KILLS old Grateful Dead songs. That's how I can say it's a travesty. What I was really asking was how can the fans of these shows not feel the same way? I haven't really heard an answer. I've gotten a lot of flak, particularly in the PMs (which I won't reply to - man up and say it in public), but really, I'm just asking how? Maybe it's simple and the folks that love it have never heard Bertha performed at Venetta or a number of times on Europe '72; or perhaps they don't like tube amps or tape hiss - I don't know, nobody has said. I would add - I may be one of the few Bruce / Vince fans, as I do enjoy some stuff from their era. I know Jerry wasn't sounding so hot by then, but I'm saying that the keyboards and backing vocals aren't ruining the performance for me. I'm looking forward to the 30 Trips representations from these years.

Declining Vocals

..have to agree with you on declining vocals. There are some horrendous out of tune vocals in the early years too(Pigpen, of course, excluded). I guess I am solidly in the corner of I'm in it for the songs and I'm in it for the jams. Watching Fare Thee Well come and go, I forgot how much the rich fabric of songwriting affects me. Got to give it to the band for creating a rich tapestry of material to play with. That's a big part of the legacy for me. Let there be songs, to fill the air. Anyway.. to all parties, I bet the glue that binds us is stickier than the forces that separate us. We are talking about the same band, just which snippets of time cast the strongest spell.

Travesty?

Does anybody honestly believe that the Dead would have broken sales records at Soldier Field in 2015 and sold $200-$700 CD box sets entirely based on what transpired prior to 1979 and had the Dead stopped touring and recording during the Keith and Donna era? This music has touched each of us all in each our own way and everybody has their favorites. For me, I'm drawn to the high energy and intensity level of the Brent era.

Not being kind to the Brent Era

Just to preface, my 40 some odd live attended GD shows were from 85-94. With the bulk of them taking place in the travesty years. And yes I now most certainly prefer 68-78 shows but to say that the 3/29/90 show & other peak moments from those years are a travesty because of Brent's plinky keys & out of breath vocals is just plain old rude & insulting. I am most certainly an anti midi, anti bad 80's keys & anti non tube amps kind of guy. But there was still plenty of magic in the air, just not as much as years prior. The 3/29/90 show was indeed the best GD concert I have ever attended. I don't feel the same way as you that the songs were ruined. They are basically different interpretations paired with different sounding instruments & amps. But not as radically different as a 1968 Dancing to a 1978 Dancing. Time marches on & yes things do change, but I am particularly happy that the band carried on after 1978. My wife certainly does not look like she did 25 years back, should I simply move on? I think your point has been made and you can choose to ignore anything post 1978. But realize you are slighting those of us that are enjoying this current reunion and the 80's era. That being said I really had a blast last night catching the simulcast at Wonder Bar in Asbury Park. Been a great celebration the last couple of weekends seeing so many people get their Dead on. Cheers to the core 4 plus Bruce, Trey & Jeff!

Hunter

I was not at any of the shows, I'm curious if Robert Hunter's contributions were specifically highlighted/thanked as part of the gigs. Or those of any of the lyricists.

Hyperbole [hahy-pur-buh-lee]

noun, Rhetoric 1. obvious and intentional exaggeration. 2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity” or "the Dead with Brent were a travesty". 3. a travesty of idiomatic convention employed with reckless abandon in a polarized society for which reasoned and proportionate reaction has become anathema. Good grief!/K

Spring 90 T00

One of my favorite shows is 3/25. Another is 3/21. I think the Albany run and the Copps "mini-run" are fantastic. and I agree, 3/14 is an awesome show in itself! Take care folks! Daves 15 any day now people. Waiting for that '71 show announcement!

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