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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
  • #6636
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Text

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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/10/2015 - 20:25

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I'm sure your right, one man.. and I forgot about the older, single show mixes, and there is no doubt this is a factor. I also recall you writing about it more than once, and I know you are on to something. One question and understand I'm no expert, but is the reverb we hear on these pressings something that you bake into the mix, or is it something we are pregnant with from the original recordings? Also, for the other shows that were not released and mixed singularly long ago, there are these same nuances from venue to venue. Could be the mix, but the romantic in me wants to believe the venue has something to do with it. I bet your right.. but you got me thinking. The venues play a role too.. and reverb would definitely come through the mics after the sound bounced around the buildings a bit if the acoustic in the room were really good. That being said, I have heard good recordings come out of some of the tin sheds these guys played at. Like most things in life, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. I still want to visit a few of these old theatres some day...
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Fri, 07/10/2015 - 21:04

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KeithFan..thanks for the recommendation on the Sugar Magnolia, listened from there on for a long spell and loved the punch. The mix definitely has a different feel, it's a nice counterpoint to some of the others. Speaking of Keith, I saw he only sang the one song for the group, on Wake of the Flood, so I just listened to that for the first time. Pretty cool! Reminds me of Bobby Charles mixed with some ~mid-70s Danko. I'm not a huge fan of sax on rock records, but worked fine there. Also just watched the Mountains of the Moon from Playboy After Dark. Haha, what a strange scene.
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Submitted by rdevil on Fri, 07/10/2015 - 21:23

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4evergr8ful, if you're interested in 1971, there's a guy called Forensicdoc who posts all kind of recommendations over on the Dave's Picks 14 page. By coincidence, I happen to be listening to 12-1-71 set 2 right now after hearing on one of these threads that there is possibly a WRS Prelude tease involved.https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.sbd-set2.miller.32304.sbeok.fl… I agree with those who have mentioned 12-5-71; that's a show I'd love to see released. I have to admit I'm a Keith era guy so I gravitate to later '71 shows. Dick's Picks 2 (10-31-71) is a must have. As for 1970, 5-2 is a long time favorite and was released as Dick's Picks 8. Pigpen singing It's a Man's World is awesome as is Dancin'. And you gotta love Dick's Picks 4, from 2-13 and 2-14. Before I hit send I have to say that I found the Prelude tease at about 3:22 of track 8 (second Other One) but the jam that follows is really kick ass (this from the previous link for 12-1-71). I'm not sure if the first set is available but if not, this would make a great single disc release a la 11-18-72. Okay...getting off on this...absolutely release worthy!
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Submitted by claney on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 06:38

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Nah Jim, proper footnoting would be ... Chicago Style :) Glad someone (Mr. Devil) finally mentioned 2/13 2/14 70... Still the pinnacle of 1970 releases to me. That mix is so airy compared to everything else I've heard from that year, and the playing is correspondingly light and Wall of Sound-esque subtle. Thanks everyone for these recomendations. Of course I've heard Felt like most of you, but never 12/1. Guess I need to fix that. Has anyone mentioned the double punch of 9/19 and 9/20 '70? I have yet to find a Dark Star I love more (though the aforementioned 10/31/71 version is up there). EDIT - oops, footnoting: I almost assume you've all heard the Dark Star through Lovelight stretch on 9/19/70 (with mucho jams sprinkled in - Feelin' Groovy Jam, Darkness Jam, China Cat Jam...), but this matrix was a new discovery for me just now while looking for the "footnote" - holy crap! Jim, here is your hall ambience my brother: https://archive.org/details/gd1970-09-19.mtx.chappell.SB14.31510.sbeok…
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Submitted by FH2 on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 06:29

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isn't it time for more information about the Box and also the upcoming Dave's Picks? for example, are some of these shows more complete than what circulates?
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 13:37

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....how some of these 30 Trips shows sound cleaned up. For example, the Cap show from '77 has three sources on the archive. Dabbled a bit in them a little. The effort is there, but all three sound really muddy and thick. Same for the Cobo show the year prior. This is why we sell our kidneys to satisfy our hunger/interest, is it not? I believe DaP 15 will be an '88-'89 selection, but that's just me....
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Submitted by lebowski99 on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 15:10

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Don't know if I've ever read of anyone promoting the Playin>Wharf Rat>Playin from 6-8-74, but I cranked up that bad boy last night and was quickly reminded of why it's my favorite Playin from 74. The climax is this meltdown jam that sounds like a T-rex getting speared. Phil is so fat in the mix throughout. Someone hop on it and back me up!
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 16:18

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The Dude abides on that Playin' Lebowski...Primal forces unleashed, in a massive brain-fry meltdown jam, that only the Dead can do. A colossal thunderous romp of a Playin'.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 16:26

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I put on the Sunshine Daydream Blu Ray while my five year old daughter was standing by. I skipped forward to Jack Straw, and the first image is Jerry - so I said "There's Jerry". Next image is of the baby sitting in the tire with a dirty face and eating a candy bar. My daughter said "Ewww, is that Pigpen?"
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 17:39

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Maybe been mentioned here before, but Larry & Teresa Williams close their new album with a version of Attics Of My Life. I just picked it up but haven't listened yet; I didn't even know about it until yesterday but very cool. If you don't know him, he was the guitarist / multi-instrumental wizard / harmony vocalist for Dylan from about '97 to '04 (check out anything from 1999 and 2000, in my opinion, for the highlights of that part of the Neverending Tour). After leaving Dylan's group, he was the musical director for Levon Helm's group up until his death. Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt are some of my favorite albums of the last decade. On that note, I see Amy Helm has a new one out as well. Too much to listen to...so many roads
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Submitted by 4evergr8ful on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 17:42

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I will have to check the 6-8 playin out..I'm a big fan of the 8-6-74 (Roosevelt stadium) playin"... Some real mind melting lysergic funk in that one, especially toward the end..it gets real out there, whole concert is quite rediculous, possibly one of the best eyes as well..
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Submitted by Kate_C. on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 17:56

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A germane inquiry I share, and one that sent me to my 'little black book' of personal reviews immediately after ordering last month(!); while, admittedly, I've not previously listened to most of the box's inventory, 12 of the shows were listed. Of particular note, I wonder about the reportedly missing material from '66, specifically, Minglewood; Cold Rain; BIODTL; Cream Puff; 'Z a Good Thing; and 2 apparently unspecified tracks (especially given that circulating material constitutes just over a half-hour of play time!). Moreover, I note the official release titled "Rare Cuts & Oddities 1966" contains 2 songs attributed to this show that (also) do not circulate among commonly available streaming and d/l sources (i.e., Gangster of Love and Don't Mess Up a Good Thing). Additionally, I wonder if our pending release will reveal '67's missing BIODTL. Also, given the technical issues plaguing circulating copies of the '84 SBD, will we see a clean board that eclipses Holtz's authoritative AUD (i.e., show me the Dew!). Finally, what repairs might we expect to the thin Evans AUD used to fill the SBD's missing BEW on Seamons' MTX of that fine '92 show? For the sake of curiosity (at least), I should be grateful for other information regarding incomplete or flawed circulating shows amongst The 30 outside my admittedly finite realm of familiarity! :) thanks and peace, K
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 19:09

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The Band and The Dead sit side by side in my musical mind of happiness. Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt are classics. Would you please, kind sir, give me some specific Helm, Campbell, Williams etc. cd's you would recommend? Sammy T
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Submitted by Kate_C. on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 19:18

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APOLOGIES IF THIS POST DUPLICATES Your attention to one of my A-list shows made me smile! Various facets of 6/8 could serve as exemplars for an exhaustive range of commonly invoked DeadHead superlatives like cosmic, mind melting, other worldly, and a litany of others! You've identified the crown's jewel in the split PITB, but don't forget the delectable WR filling, worthy of a menu listing at Katz's Deli, in addition to a second course of epic Eyes that, in small pockets like 7:10, exemplifies the maturation of Keith's trademark contribution; as well, at 10:25, for a brief period, Jerry orbits independently around a tight planetary core of jazzy fusion until the ensemble realigns along the song's signature theme...all in all, it's about 57 minutes of pedigreed Dead that could take the podium for Best of Show alongside prime cuts from any era! While I've practically memorized a couple lines from Ross's brief, but indelible, review, I now reopen the DBase tome for those who might not be as familiar: "The great thing about the big 74 Dead jams is the way the band totally loses its identity as a bunch of hippies from Marin and turns itself (and the audience) into dinosaurs, galaxies, hurricanes, whirlpools, amoebas...about two minutes into the [Playin'] jam, Garcia is already so far gone into his prehistoric condor jag that the rest of the band has no choice but to 'boldly go where no man has gone before'. So, what started out as a nice outdoor-fun-festival-picnic-type event has suddenly become some kind of howling cosmic frontier back about 400 million years ago....This is unquestionably one of the most powerful Playin' jams in history" and "it culminates in a colossal giant-soundsystem roar that is probably still rattling windows at the center of the galaxy." Whew. With formal introductions completed, it's now Miller time: https://archive.org/details/gd1974-06-08.sbd.miller.97268.sbeok.flac16 peace/K
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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 19:49

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Just caught Larry & Teresa, with jorma k, about ..mm two months ago at Swallow Hill in Denver and man they were fantastic -- all acoustic. They did a GD song, but it wasn't Attics. This week: Amy Helm, Mavis Staples and Patti Griffin at Chautauqua in Boulder. Oh yeah! Gotta love that live thang. As for The Band, well, Watkins Glen, Roosevelt Stad two-nighter with GD, both in '73. Then just before the Last Waltz, The Band rocked the Academy of Music for the umpteenth time. I was in the balcony and man, that thing was flexing to the NY audience getting its rocks off on Levon & Co. Bless 'em!
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Submitted by ds smith on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 21:28

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I didn't buy the Europe 72 box or Spring 90 part one but have gotten all the Daves, 77 box, and spring 90 TOO. I really would love this box. I recall getting So Many Roads back in the day and being blown away by the way they covered their history....and now this beast. Is it worth $700? I'm excited to see the 80s and 90s getting picks although I would've went all in with Brent and gave 90 to him. I guess there's a lot of 90 Brent out there. So what's the consensus? Is this release worth it and how many are left now? For 95, I thought Seattle would've been the pick but I'll trust DL.
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 22:56

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Sammy - Musical mind of happiness, that is a fantastic turn of phrase and an accurate description! As far as recommended records for Larry & Teresa, unfortunately he's such an artist (and / or I'm just not privy to his other work) where there's not a lot necessarily released that sums him up. The two Levon albums we mentioned already are by far my favorite as far as official releases that feature him, as well as Dylan's Love & Theft from 2001. Fantastic frickin' album, including my favorite modern Dylan song..which generally I mean 2000+ but in this case I'd say my favorite since 1976 at least. Anyways, Larry plays some great stuff on Love & Theft..but probably his best representation with Dylan, to me, is either live from the late 90s / 2000, or the Masked & Anonymous soundtrack from 2003. I love that whole album and not to mention the movie. Actually, there's a Dead version if It's All Over Now, Baby Blue on the soundtrack..as well as a Jerry (maybe JGB?) version of Senor (Tales Of Yankee Power). I need to go back and see when / where those versions are from! Doesn't look like there's alot of M&A on Youtube, but here's Cold Irons Bound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO-83CIVKM Larry played several stringed instruments during his time with Dylan..(my favorite was the bouzouki), but he also sang with him which was fun, not to mention a change. Typically, I believe, it was Larry & Charlie Sexton (who is back in Dylan's band now, since 2009, having left for a long spell) adding in on chorus, etc. Here's a version from Blowin' In The Wind, my guess would be 2000 without looking any deeper at the current moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EwuaNOdfHg Also at that time, '99-01' for the most part, they did a ton of old country gospel time tunes, often as opener. He was a great harmony singer on those (Rock of Ages, Hallelujah I'm Ready To Go, Somebody Touched Me, etc) and other old time covers...I love a good Rovin' Gambler from that time. Here's some killer live stuff from 2000, can't see Larry since they zoom in on Bob the whole time, but you can sure hear him. You can also see Dylan looking like a riverboat gambler and playing his strange chords that rival Weir even... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_juKSv6Kec As far as post Dylan, he dominated those albums with Levon and it was fantastic. I'm not so much on the live stuff, though I would have gave my left foot to have gone to a Midnight Ramble (and I'm left footed!). But I'm not so much into the big saxophone, etc, sound. Some stuff worked really well, but I don't listen often to Ramble at the Ryman or the other live late Levon stuff. The MerleFest set from 2008 was available on iTunes and I really enjoyed some of it, Goin' Back to Memphis was great. I'll admit I don't know much about Teresa, besides being paired with Larry and adding much to Levon's band. But here's one featuring the two of them and miss Amy, and topical here, Mr. Bruce Hornsby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6bAb-Khg7c PS Hendrix - You saw the Band at the Academy of Music??? Very, very jealous. I missed them (and the Dead) by way too long, having just turned 30 a few weeks ago, but I consider them *my guys* if that makes sense. For one more Saturday night video..Mr. Rick Danko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDm5o3FJ2Q8
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Submitted by muleskinner_blues on Sat, 07/11/2015 - 23:47

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Not to beat a dead horse, but thought this one might be topical but forgot it earlier. Larry always sang on Deep Elem Blues with Levon, and has continued to play it. I've always loved that one, and I know Jerry (& the Dead) played it (and on the new On Broadway release!) so thought someone may be interested. Levon Helm Band (Larry Campbell lead vocals) 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EpImOCFic Blackberry Smoke 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q-2OijZpzE This was the first recording of the song's DNA..1927 by the Georgia Crackers as the Georgia Black Bottom (recorded in Atlanta..surprise!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyX7uEsScg4 Probably the most famous though, and influential to the folks we know, were the versions by the Shelton Brothers. This one is on Decca so likely ~1935: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQr5GMSsUgU I also have a cool version of Dylan doing it back in his coffeehouse days, from Gerdes Folk City in April '62. Youtube is being obstinate, but when I figure it out I'll post it if anyone's still interested.
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Submitted by Mr. Pete on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 05:36

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I am looking for a copy of the limited edition cover for this show. If anyone know where I can either obtain this show, which came in the red sleeve, or send me a pdf of the red cover I would be for ever....grateful! Mr. Pete-------> aging hippie
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 07:43

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Here is an honest assessment of this collection of shows, I will give an honest, open opinion about each show some I'm familiar with some I'm not, however I will let you out here in Deadland the Deal, so here goes an honest show by show analysis. DISCAIMER: MY INTENTION IS TO INFORM NOT TO CREATE A CONTROVERSY, WE CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE ON MY ASSESSMENT OF THIS BOX SET, HOWEVER I JUST WANT TO BE A HELP TO THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FENCE SO TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF THIS BOX SET, AS I FEEL IT'S VERY MUCH WORTH PURCHASING!!!!!!!!!!!! 1966, 7/3, I am familiar with this show, I thought 5/19 would've been the obvious choice, however with that said this is a GOOD choice. 1967, 11/10, A GOOD choice an excellent example of "primal Dead". 1968, 10/20, now this show is a GREAT choice for years I stayed primarily with the Pac-North Tour in January & February. I just started venturing thru other shows from '68 so yes this is 30 Trips worthy. 1969. 2/22, Another GOOD choice however I would've preferred, 4/5 or 4/21 however 2/22 is release worthy. 1970 4/15, why not 9/19 or 11/8? It's a GOOD choice though worthy of the price of admission. 1971, 3/18, NEVER listened to this one....yet, again, why not 12/5? I'm looking forward to hearing this one for the FIRST time in September, can't give an honest opinion so let's just trust, DL's opinion on this one. 1972, 9/24, SEPTEMBER 1972, ENOUGH SAID, however I was expecting them to go with 11/19 just because of DP 11 & RSD 11/18 but I'm NOT complaining GREAT choice. 1973,11/14, To obvious for me only because of Winterland '73 & DP 5 11/17, I was hoping they'd go with a "different' era of 1973, like 12/18 with that being said you can't go wrong with this one an EXCELLENT choice. 1974, 9/18, Europe '74 a GOOD choice as I feel this tour is somewhat of underrated. 1975,9/28, what else could they have gone with? Now the logical thing to do though is release 6/17 & COMPLETE 1975. 1976, 10/3, another GOOD choice from an underrated year, even though I would've like to see 7/17 or 7/18 released, 10/3 is worthy of release. 1977, 4/25, why couldn't they go with the 'other" tour, Fall, 1977 however this is an EXCELLENT choice Spring '77 SAY NO MORE!!! 1978, 5/14 why not 11/24? However a GOOD choice. 1979, 10/27 The reason I paid 699.98 PLUS $58.10 PA Sales Tax was for this the HOLY GRAIL of 1979, an EXCELLENT choice. 1980, 11/28, The only way I can justify this one is if 11/29 gets released & COMPLETES the short Florida, Georgia Tour of November 1980, however why not 5/10 or 10/14, so let's say this is a GOOD choice. 1981, 5/16, The "other" Cornell, an EXCELLENT choice. 1982, 7/31, A GOOD choice however I'd like to see 10/10 get released one day. 1983,10/21, An EXCELLENT choice indeed. 1984, 10/12, An EXCELLENT choice it's either 4/21, 10/12 or 11/2 any one of these 3 is release worthy. 1985, 6/24, A GOOD choice however I was hoping 6/28 would've been the show for '85 however this is worthy of release 1986,5/3, A GOOD choice, I'm glad to see they didn't go with 12/15 just because it would've been the obvious choice, maybe someday we'll see 3/24 get released. 1987, 9/18 An EXCELLENT choice, La Bamba, indeed!!! 1988, 7/3 A GOOD choice however why not 7/29? Just sayin.... 1989,10/26 An EXCELLENT choice, I call this show "ANGRY DEAD"!!!! Another show I've been rallying for to see the "light" of day. 1990,10/27, A GOOD choice however why not 11/1? 1991, 9/10, A GOOD choice however a tad to obvious for me, we already have the "holy grail" of Dead & Branford (3/29/90) I really would've like to see 6/22 or ESPECIALLY 9/26 the show in this writer's opinion IS 1991!! 1992, 3/20, A GOOD choice however why not 6/20? Again, just sayin..... 1993,3/27, A GOOD choice, IMO though if they're going with March 1993, why not 3/17 or 3/24? 1994, 10/1, An EXCELLENT choice in fact most of October 1994, is worthy of release. 1995, 2/21, A GOOD choice, though I would've liked to see 6/21 released however 2/21 is worthy of release. So there you have my HONEST feelings on EVERY show in '30 Trips, the most important thing I can say is in this long time Deadheads opinion is I'm glad I was able to preorder one as this collection is NEVER going to be duplicated & it is investment worthy. The other thing to consider is EVERY show in this box set is a HIT with no misses, even the shows I'm not familiar with I know are going to be good just because they were chosen especially for this release. Yes DEADLAND IMHO it's worth shelling out the $699.98+ I'm glad I was able to preorder BEFORE it SELLS OUT as "secondary" prices for the box set or individual shows on the "secondary" market will be outrageous!!!!!! HAPPY SUNDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!
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Submitted by lebowski99 on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 07:48

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Glad to see others feeling the love for the 6-8-74 Playin! I need to listen to the rest of that show again soon. However,with my girlfriend gone for the week, I spent the last couple of nights baked and queing up choice nuggets from nearly all 30 years--at least most from 69 to 91. Tried to minimize repeats, and focus on what I enjoy most from each year, but here's how it went: 3/17/68 Other One>New Potato>China Cat>Eleven>Caution>Feedback 12/12/69 Uncle John's>He Was a Friend 6/24/70 NFA>Easy Wind, Dark Star>Attics>Dark Star>Sugar Mag>Dark Star>St. Stephen (rough audience tape, but the music...) 4/18/70 Cumberland, New Speedway 2/19/71 Smokestack 8/6/71 Hard to Handle(obvious choice, but never fails to slay me. 4/24/72 NFA>GDTR>NFA 2/17/73 1/2 Step, Truckin>Eyes 6/8/74 Playin>Wharf Rat>Playin 6/17/75 Help>Slip>Franklin's 6/9/76 Mission in the Rain (not from this date, but on Road Trips--too lazy to look it up.) 5/9/77 Peggy-O, Music Never Stopped (too bad for the patch in MNS, cause that's a smoker.) 12/31/78 FOTD 12/1/79 He's Gone>Gloria Jam>CC Rider (a little Weir cheese, but I have a tolerance for that...) 11/30/80 Scarlet Fire 10/10/82 Space>Wheel>Throwing Stones>NFA>Black Peter (The jam in Throwing Stones is really interesting and the Space/Wheel is so delicate. 9/2/83 Baby Blue 3/31/85 Post China Doll Jam>Drums (China Doll is a wreck, but the post jam? Jerry and the drummers redeem the whole band.) 6/30/85 Shakedown (obvious, I know, but this version never stops peaking.) 12/30/87 Cassidy--a wild swirling version 4/1/88 To Lay Me Down, Thin Man 12/31/89 Victim>Dark Star>Drums (Say what you want about Victim, but this version and what follows is chaotic and stellar--as long as the MIDI doesn't send you fleeing.) 7/19/90 Jack Straw 5/5/91 Terrapin>Jam (One of my favorites, especially with the post jam.) Usually listen to complete shows, but this was a fun way to go. How does one band have so much to choose from????
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Submitted by claney on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 08:13

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First, great list of segments there Lebowski...good choices. Wissinoming - thanks for sharing that, I enjoyed your breakdown of 30 Trips. I can answer at least a couple of your "why not" questions: 9/19/70 (basically all of Fall 70) is not in the Vault. Likewise, no 11/19/72 in the Vault (lots of the Fall 72 stuff is missing too). One of my all-time favorite shows, with a Top Five Dark Star, is 11/13/72, but that is not only missing from the Vault, it was not recorded at all at the soundboard. Thank God for Owsley making an audience tape of that one! Muleskinner, great stuff. The Dean of my department (and his wife) are Larry Campbell Heads - I mean, they are as devoted to LC as we are to the Dead. They took me to a Ramble a few years back, it was a peak life experience. Levon's band with LC was obviously great, also Taj Mahal, and Jim Lauderdale. Of course all in Levon's barn, about ten feet from the "stage." At the poluck during a break, I was standing next to this kind of square looking dude (like me!) in his 60s wearing shorts, sandals with socks... nice guy, we chatted about how good the salad was and stuff like that - "oh yeah, try the taboule!". Later he's introduced and brought up to sing some songs - it was John Sebastion! Good thing I did not recognize him as we were thus able to have a normal conversation, ha! Anyway, that's my Ramble story.
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 09:08

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Nice idea, this would make a nice 30 days of free dead in November. I plan on loading up this list into a flash stick and listing thru.
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Submitted by toddl on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 10:13

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Great choice for a release some day. 1980-05-10 - Hartford Civic Center Great 2nd Set. 7 Songs before drums/space. Jerry doing Pete Townshend windmills during I Know You Rider. Set 2 China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider Feel Like A Stranger -> Comes A Time Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Uncle John's Band -> Space -> Drums -> Space -> Not Fade Away -> Sugar Magnolia Encore Alabama Getaway -> One More Saturday Night
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 10:44

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you have 2/17/73,,,, did you mean 9/17/73?
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 10:56

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I should just wait till the end,,,, but,,,, 6/9/76 is really 6/12/76 and is Road Trip V4 #5. I'm making a folder with all these cuts, should be some good stuff,,, hell the smokestack from 71 is 33 minutes long!
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 11:14

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Found no more inconsistencies. Tracks added up to almost 9 hours of listening,,, a quick hit of a few were good. The friend of the devil from 78 is very nice. Thanks for a good list.
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Submitted by Dennis on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 11:19

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correction on 2/17/73 noted,, have changed my copy of your list and have forwarded to some buddies.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 14:14

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From recent shows I have heard lately and some delightful nuggets I have been listening to over the last few months.. Spoiler Teaser Alert in case some body scoops my list 1966 - 4.24.66 - Midnight Hour 1971 - 10.27.71 - Not Fade Away > Drums > Goin Down the Road Feelin Bad > Not Fade Away 1979 - 9.1.79 - Scarlet > Fire 1984 - 6.27.84 - Morning Dew > Throwin Stones > Not Fade Away To be continued...
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Submitted by takimoto on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 18:29

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On 30 box selections. Thank you for doing that that was helpful. I already bought the box but I like the commentary to help size up what I'll be getting. Did you know you roughly grouped the box set as follows (by my rough count). 17 good 2 great 9 excellent So, a question. when you rate a Selsction as "good", can you be more specific as to what that means? Is "good" really good to you or just "ok"?
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 19:59

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Well thought out.. a better job than I quite honestly would have done, especially in the later years. I do like 5/10/91 though.. but hey, we like what we like, right? I will add one obvious caveat that's already come up. I have a lot of the better sources avail for far more of these shows than I would have guessed. Several of my shows are really good w/ some buzz shattering flaws. I know the final product will the critiqued to nauseam.. but I am looking forward to see what the vault masters and Jeffrey/David can do with this. Will the sorcerers prevail? I honestly thought some of these flaws were present on the masters. ..and how did they keep this a secret for so long. There's more leaks out of the Whitehouse and NSA than out of Dead.Net, Rhino and David/Jeffrey/David, et. al. wait,, wait.. now I get it. Bolo, Bolo, Bolo!
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 20:54

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THANK YOU kind folks for checking out my "rating" of 30 Trips...The way I rated it is as follows; GOOD- Meaning that I felt a "better" choice could've been selected however either a better show isn't available as an upgrade or it doesn't exist in the vault, i.e. 9/19/70. GREAT-Meaning it's just that a GREAT show IMHO. EXCELLENT-Meaning the show has no equal again IMHO, i.e. 10/27/79 the show I purchased this colossal collection for. Now I would hope that someone else would give their own ratings, however it took me 2 hours to type that out so maybe some of us just don't have the time. When I did it I was home alone so it worked out for me, I've been meaning to "rate" this since it was announced, June 2nd. By the way I was glad to do it, as I'm really excited about being able to preorder this magnificent collection of Dead!!!! @claney THANK YOU so much for letting me know about 11/13/72, an AMAZING Dark Star of Titanic proportions DARK STAR CRASHES!!!!!!! INDEED ALSO,DOES ANYONE OUT HERE IN THE LAND OF DEAD DOM HAVE ANY RELEASE INFO REGARDING Deadbase 50? CAN IT BE PREORDERED ETC, ETC. LET'S HOPE THEY PRINT MORE COPIES OF THIS THAN THE AMOUNT PRINTED OF The Deadheads Taping Addendum, now that is an elusive piece of reading material. Been searching for that one for 3-4 years now. As always HAPPY SUNDAY (NIGHT) DEADLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Submitted by bolo24 on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 21:16

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Where am I? The last thing I remember, I was having mango mojitos on a beach in Costa Rica with Mariel Hemingway. All of a sudden I find myself in the middle of a massive volcanic debris field. Lava as far as the eye can see. Must get back to civilization, but...feeling...woozy. I better find .
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 21:23

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Too funny.. let the games begin. DaP 15 hints perhaps? Who was the dumbass that mentioned his name three times anyway?
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 21:45

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Hawaii ?
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Submitted by JimInMD on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 22:13

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No doubt he's clowning around. Ok. I'm not convinced its 6/12/80, its just not release worthy. Im not so sure about the Hi shows in 1970, half were not recorded. I need to sleep on this one. PNE 73, if for no other reason that its PNY 73? Matches to clues can come later.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Sun, 07/12/2015 - 23:33

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David Crosby-If I Could Only Remember My NameTo whit: Tamalpais High(At About 3) Laughing What Are Their Names If ya haven't yet done so,GET SOME!! :-)
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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 03:34

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Just a few suggestions. I assume that the mango mojito is a cocktail as is a Manhattan which was the film by Woody Allen in which Mariel Hemingway starred. Lava might be a reference to Mount St Helens which erupted in 1980. Lost Sailor (the must find, feeling lost woozy bit) was played alot at Radio City (Manhattan) in 1980. No idea what the Costa Rica reference is!
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Submitted by cjm on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 04:49

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The capital of Costa Rica is San Jose. So, building on what you've said already, Manhattan starring Mariel Hemingway came out in 1979. GD played San Jose on April 22, 1979, and they played "Fire On The Mountain" that night. I think it was Brent's first show?
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Submitted by frankparry on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 05:15

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Impeccable logic CJM - well done! Plus there is a Fire on the Mountain in that show. I'd go for that.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 05:31

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Dead Base 50 has a facebook page. I am not on facebook, so if some kind soul will check it out and report back with an update. It is scheduled to be released in late July. I agree on the logic of Dave 15. Is the 79' show good, great, excellent, or none of the above? Sam T
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 05:36

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I knew the kind bolo24 would reappear shortly before August 1, right on schedule kind sir
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 05:48

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On June 27 they announced "the latest news from the printer is that the book will be available in the last week of July" Seems it will include the Santa Clara and Soldier Field set lists as well.
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