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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 06:23

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Something to chew on. Hemingway was named after the Cuban port town of Mariel. Also, majitos were believed to be first concocted in Cuba. Hmmmmmm. To fit my taste. A Cuban sandwich's main meat ingredients are ham and pork. Both derived from a fat little pig? Paging Mr. Pigpen. The coolest cat of them all. Where you be Mr. chain blue lightning?
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Submitted by cjm on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 06:57

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The thing about Bolo's clues is they always fit more than one show, and my guesses are always incorrect. For example, Mariel Hemingway was also in Star 80. So a 1980 show. Ernest Hemingway lived in Cuba. He also lived in Key West, FL. Gainesville is in Florida and the Dead played there on Nov. 29,1980. What about Gainesville? On another note, I am looking forward to hearing 3/18/71 from 30 Trips because it is from that very brief period when Jerry was playing the Alembic "Peanut" guitar.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 07:16

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Sounds like Pig to me. Portland, Oregon sits on top of volcanoes (I am assuming inactive). Do I dare guess 1/16/70 Springer's Inn? We did get Easy Wind as a bonus song on the remastered Workingman's Dead live from 1/16. So you know they had some of the master sounboard in the vault. Just checked it out on archives. A monster show and long enough for a Dave's Picks.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 07:34

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that was my guess also.. even though it does not really fit into bolo24 cryptic message Mariel Hemingway - very interesting, born in Mill Valley on November 22.. Some killer shows from 11.22,, 11.22.68 (Columbus Lol) 11.22.72 11.22.85,, has a few more Check this out - here is a killer show all should enjoy https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-05.mtx.seamons.112235.flac16
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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 08:24

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Just for fun. Hemingway = Idaho = 1983 Boise. Vast lava beds in southern Idaho. Only time Grateful Dead played Idaho. One of the best Dead concerts of 1983. 1983 Still Raining, Still Dreaming....
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 08:59

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Based on the latest clues, Dave's Picks 15 appears to be a show from the early 80's (but possibly '79) with a performance of Lost Sailor -> Saint of Circumstance. This guess is simply factoring in the comments about being lost and "having mojitos with M. Hemingway." This is as far as I've gotten in my guess... Perhaps the possible clues from last week (or week before) were not clues after all? I was really hoping for some '73 goodness...but oh well. I'm sure whatever show is selected will be terrific (as always). I love reading guesses by others, so keep 'em coming. We probably only have a few days to a week to decipher the clues (before the reveal by Dave L.).
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Submitted by 4evergr8ful on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:08

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When is the next dave picks due? And how was the last one to those who listened, the 72 show?
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Submitted by claney on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:10

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Ach, I just posted in detail about this, complete with links. Somehow lost it when doing the "confirmation" step. So here is the short version: Strider, I think you have it! Hemingway's last house was in Idaho, as a result of impending expulsion from.... CUBA. I just checked the setlist too, wow - what a great looking show!
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:44

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Interesting no one commented on Bolo's mention of "Last thing I remember"...A possible reference to a lyric from "Hotel California"...Though maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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Submitted by dharwin on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 11:25

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There was a volcanic eruption that night but I guess the Hemingway clue doesn't fit??
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 12:32

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Was also the lead in the movie "Star 80" about Playmate Dorothy Stratton. (edit) -- Whoops missed someone else mention this, apologies (edit) 6-13-80 would also do the trick as it is post MSH and features the "smoking crater" of TOO. There are a few ridiculously good FOBs out there and it is a tremendous show.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 12:57

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Phil Lesh speaks fondly of this date in his memoir...
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Submitted by KYTrips on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 13:11

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Yes, the 4/22/79 show was Brent's first show with the band. I only know that because I was just reading about it last night in Bill Kreutzmann's book. Also discussed last night in what I was reading was the 6/12/80 show in Portland... Same night as one of the smaller eruptions of Mt. St. Helens (the big one happened a few weeks before that). 4evergr8ful... the next Dave's Picks ships on August 1st, so hence the speculation on what it will be. Normally, we'd have heard by now with less than 3 weeks until the ship date, but I presume between the 30 Trips stuff, and all the Fare Thee Well goings on, Mr. Lemieux (sp?) is a bit behind. No doubt we'll be trying to listen to him over top of the whistling wind on some lakefront video within a couple of days.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 13:48

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the reveal should happen between now and then,, I would suspect mid next week ,, I am under the impression this will be a Garcia fest release. Slated for release on Captain Trips b-day and also Dave's 14 was fairly heavy with Pigpen and Bobby material. I personally think it will be a show from 1973 or 1976,, with a smokin Eyes of the World.. If its 1973 I am guessing another Dark Star will be included. A few come to mind 2.15.73 8.1.73 (Lol wouldnt that be something)
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Submitted by boblopes on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 14:28

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Mill Valley Music has the Winterland 73 box available for $105 + shipping etc via amazon. I bought one from them a couple of years back and very happy with it. Mine did not have the bonus disk, but had the button. I think flabobaloo got his there too. Anyways thought it was reasonable for such an awesome run of shows!!!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 14:37

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....if it's one of these two for DaP 15, my vote is for Boise. It's actually really close to my fave Santa Fe shows on 9.10 & 9.11....so close, but yet so far....do you hear me Santa Fe!!!
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 15:46

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That's a great deal for some mighty fine music. If I didn't already have that box, I'd jump on it.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 16:43

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Hi Bob Lopes yes I love mine. Purchased once you mentioned it at Mll Valley. Thanks again. I play it a lot too great set. Too bad they don't offer the same deal on the 77 boxBut if you need be grab it, you'll be glad
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:03

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The Idaho guess makes sense because part of that state is covered by basalt (via paleo-volcanic eruptions). This would lead to the 9/2/83 show. However, there are still parts of the clues that don't fit, therefore perhaps there is more to it. I liked the previous guess of something from '73, although I don't know the evidence for this guess. Can any of the clues point to 6/22/73?
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Submitted by .5 mi from tucson on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:14

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Huh? What? Where am I? = Full moon madness The last thing I remember = hotel CALIFORNIA lyric ref. location I was having mango mojitos on a beach in Costa Rica with Mariel Hemingway. = take the first letter of each word and spells out: IW HM MOAB IC RW MH !!!! which really needs no explanation but leaves no doubt of the venue: THE GREEK! All of a sudden I find myself in the middle of a massive volcanic debris field. = clearly scarlet/touch/fire... of course Lava as far as the eye can see = which is what you'd likely see if you saw hell in a bucket Must get back to civilization = club dead vacation shirt ref. popular at the time anchoring it in the 80s but...feeling...woozy = a nod to the epic 2/13/70 feelin groovy dark star jam foreshadowing the encore ... I better find = sentence fragment is a ref. to dark star closer which many believe was cut short because of time constraints and there you have it: 7/13/84! Bertha-> Greatest Story Ever Told, Dire Wolf, CC Rider, Loser, Cassidy, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Hell In A Bucket-> Might As Well Scarlet Begonias-> Touch Of Gray-> Fire On The Mountain-> Women Are Smarter-> Drums-> The Wheel-> I Need A Miracle-> Stella Blue-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Dark Star
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:28

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Flawless logic.
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Submitted by boblopes on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:29

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Anyone want to grab any of the Fare Thee Well loot, the shop is open. It looks like they'll be restocking any of the apparel. Bobaloo - thanks - got my Winterland77 when it was release (w/ bonus disc). Would love to trade that bd for the W73 bd... I agree another great release!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 20:28

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....has some pretty cool looking stuff in it. I especially like the red mandala Santa Clara lithograph. Looks really neat, but shit, I ponied up for the 30 Trips box, so ergo, I must pass....It will all come full circle the last week of September.... ...btw, stumbled across a sweet 1.10.70 Golden Hall selection on the archive that's been Miller-ized....sounds release worthy!! ...btw x 2....0.5 mile, even if that guess was taffy or a yoga instructor, it would be a stretch....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 22:12

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....went to 1989, and found the Forum show from 2.11. Was at that one, and somewhat remember it. Saw a couple of new uploads, but still need to trench through the mud. Those shows were really loud for some reason. maybe it's 'cause the Forum is basically a tin can with seats....but, hell, they blew the roof off that night. The Only time I mixed x with acid. Don't do that boys and girls. Bad things happen. The Estimated->Space->Take You Home->Drumz->Space->Eyes was primordial. I was a pile of goo on the arena steps....Whoa!! Man, it was loud! ....don't remember much of the rest. Had to have a friend lead me to the bathroom. (psst...don't mix those two!)....slithered up and down the steps I'm sure. Thank God there weren't smartphones then! ....at the time, I thought the show sucked. Thought the highlight was Black Peter (aka the most melancholy song in the set). Was beating my head with my hand afterwards, asking myself, "Why do I follow this band? Blow all this money! I'm not going tomorrow!". I got really down. The next morning, waking up in a motel room that I guess I pitched in on, a guy plays the tape from THAT night! Remember, this was an awesome revelation back then. An overnight turnover. (That's what we called it)...it sounded awesome!.... ....smoked a joint the next night. Learn your limits....
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Submitted by seabird17 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 22:36

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Bolo was dreaming or kiKcking back... Jack in Jack Straw We Can Share the MUSIC
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Submitted by Birdson on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 08:19

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I looked up a couple of these setlists from the shows they are including, and they look fantastic. I just did all the 50th anniversary shows thinking they would be a nice way to say good bye, but the boys sounded like they weren't anywhere close to being ready to hang up the hat! Now i want More, more, more! Although, I shouldn't say it like i'm surprised, too much of everything is just enough, right??
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Submitted by FH2 on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 09:11

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so when are we going to hear about Dave's Picks? Are we going to hear more about the box, tracks, details etc? the suspense is building.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:11

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glitchy
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Submitted by rdevil on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:55

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I was thinking the same thing, jrf68 and no doubt the video you posted is Jose Cardenal's worst nightmare (or maybe his best excuse for taking a day off).Also, I agree with your earlier post about David Crosby's first solo album--if any of you haven't listened in a while it's a good one to dust off. I've always guessed wrong after reading Bolo's clues so I might as well guess wrong again. How about 10-31-80? Mariel Hemingway was in Star 80, so 1980, and Manhattan, so, Radio City Music Hall. Costa Rica literally means "rich coast" which would apply here. Bolo seems lost, Lost Sailor, and confused, Franklin's Tower, and Fire on the Mountain emerges from Space, thus the lava reference. I really enjoyed reading the creative logic that led to the San Jose and Boise guesses. Whatever we get, I'm sure it will be great to listen to as we await Boxzilla.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:16

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Radio City Music Hall '80? Count me in,I like your thinkin'.:) Setlist looks great.Got it cued up on Archive for work tomorrow!
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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:33

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But I'm busily brewing a Southern English Brown Ale; plus, I'm befuddled by Bolo's clue. Mariel Hemingway apparently has mentioned that the GD experience was very unforgiving to her eldest sister:http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Mariel-Hemingway-shares-stories-of-… I'm also wondering if I'm the only one who was a bit disappointed in the final Chicago show. I was unable to see/hear the other shows, due to a family vacation, but made certain to get to a theater for the final show. It started well enough, but I don't know that anyone wanted to hear Built to Last. Then the ending of Samson broke down, and Mountains really went nowhere, in my opinion. All of a sudden, it's the last song of the first set, and we hear the opening notes of Throwing Stones, which doesn't have very positive lyrics for what I thought might be a very uplifting evening. The band did a great job with it, but still . . . Then, as soon as the second set is truly cranking(!), we're already at Drumz/Space. That section was well done, but I thought I heard The Wheel coming, which would have been great. Instead, here's Unbroken Chain, which to my ears, really bogged down. The energy in the theater I was in went way down during that song. And then my heart broke a bit to hear Bobby dragging us into Days Between, which I always considered to be a lousy song. By the time the band fought its way through that, the mood in the theater was forlorn. Not Fade Away was fun, but then to have Phil come out to 70,000 chanting, clapping fans (plus we were chanting and clapping in the theater) to give his donor rap was the final straw for me. Game over. Touch was fine, but then to end with Attics?--a song they could barely pull off forty years ago when a few of them could almost still sing?--a song where most band members aren't even playing instruments? I'm sorry, but I thought they could have come back out all together to pick up the NFA pulse, then drive it into GDTRFB, then end with something peppy, like Casey Jones. They probably should have played all the Santa Clara songs again in Chicago. No one would have minded, and the songs would have been better rehearsed. It might have been better for them to have worked up three shows worth of songs, rather than five. Your mileage may have varied! :) I absolutely CANNOT WAIT for this box set to arrive!!
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 23:18

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Detoured into 1967.The Golden Road Box bonus disc.DEATH DON'T HAVE NO MERCY! 2-2-67 RCA-Victor Studio A,Hollywood,Ca. studio,but oh so sweet. :)
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 23:37

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So I was listening to DP's 22 (Kings Beach Bowl 2/23/68) and during a spacey feedbacky section of Spanish Jam on side 1 I hear an electronic modulating buzz that I hadn't noticed before. It sounded so cool so right but I couldn't figure out what instrument it was or who was playing it. Turned out it was a helicopter hovering over a construction site a few blocks from my house. Talk about surround sound!
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 01:25

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I guess I had fairly low expectations and so was pleasantly surprised. Strange you mention Mountains of the Moon not going anywhere, as that was actually the highlight of the show for me; I felt they really hit on a nice group dynamic while playing that tune, even recapturing some of the old magic, and wished it would have lasted longer. Estimated seemed like it was (or could have been) transforming into something else at the end, but sadly they didn't take it anywhere. Was not terribly crazy about the set list itself, but I suppose melancholy carried me through, and it is what it is. All in all, I was happy that I tuned in to witness it.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 05:21

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If I was to order this, would it charge my credit card immediately or on the day it releases? if anyone can tell me it would be much appreciated Thanks.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 05:50

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mmm, those pesky black hawks. They are on to you, mhammond, and they know about the safe spot at Joshua Tree. The sacred tree in the Atlas mountains seems safe for now. Good luck, tell VGuy we all said hello.. Don't worry, any day now they will get distracted with Iran and forget about you. You should be back in a week, two tops. ___________ Andrew, I believe they will put through a hold on your credit card for the price of the box, but not charge it until it ships. Get the box, tell your wife the charge was for a new, black market kidney, kiss her on the forehead and ask her to please not ask any questions... That's what the rest of us did and there has been very little push-back, no divorces thus far.
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Submitted by Syracuse78 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 06:52

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I think the RCMH shows were recorded in multitrack, so I would be very surprised if they released a show from that run in the DaP series. PS -- great to see the Blackhawks get a shoutout! They are my favorite team in sports. :)
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 07:43

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I tend to agree with you, Syracuse, that this might not be the next Dave's Picks for a variety of reasons.. but we could be wrong. I do wonder if the multi-tracks survived as many were erased.. Didn't some of this appear on Dead Ahead / Dead Set though? What a mess.. if you could only go back in time to the instant just before those 16 track master tapes were erased and slap the person who erased them around a little, give him/her some sodium pentothal, drop clockwork orange eye drops into his/her eyes and tell them politely to please stop what they are doing and put Owsley in charge of the tapes safe passage.. Then go back another 10 years and record all the summer/fall '70 shows with the same multi-track recorder. Life would be grand.
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Submitted by claney on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:04

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Jim, I have a time machine and some eye droppers ready to go. Shipping them to you now.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:06

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6.7.70 - Swing Low Sweet Chariot : Cumberland Blues 10.3.80 - Bird Song > Ripple 11.21.85 - Shakedown Street > Crazy Fingers > Playin' in the Band > She Belongs to Me > Drums 7.12.90 - Let the Good Times Roll : Feel Like A Stranger : Bertha Plenty of primo nuggets from these 4 shows. And a special mention to this combo...Far From Me > Cassidy from 7.12.89.. I heard a few days ago, which was the first time I have heard any Cassidy since the Core 4 completely rocked it out at Soldier Field.. 7.13.89 Cassidy sending laser beams to my face
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:27

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Thanks claney, Start looking for new Charlie Miller sbds on the archive. You will know if I was successful if you start seeing new seeds of previously non-circulating tapes begin to appear. They should start appearing any day now.
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:37

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For another Cassidy that will peel paint, check 7-24-87 VFTV 4
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Submitted by allman on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:29

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Did Dave drop the brown acid at the Fare Thee Well shows? No Dave's Picks announcement, no update to the 30 Trips listening party, no new video of the 30 Trips box layout. Can someone talk Dave down? He's got to get back to work.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:16

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Thanks a lot JimInMD I will definitely get it now since I was on the fence about it. I'm not married so I won't be getting a divorce once it ships hahaha.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:30

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Shoot I was to slow, just went to put my order through and it's telling me that it sold out. Damn I'll be missing out on that Alligator-Caution from 67.
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