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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • #6631
    KeithFan2112
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    Speaking of Decline
    Yeah Palmer, you bring up a good point. What happened to Bob Weir's guitar sound in the late 70s? I want to call it choppy flamenco, but I don't know why I want to call it that. It's something in the tone of his guitar that changed a whole bunch. I may be morphing into pre-hiatus guy....I've always maintained that they were better with just Billy on drums, and that almost anything they played on the Europe '72 tour sounded better in '72 than it did after the hiatus (Bertha, Cold Rain, New Minglewood ((Ladies & Gentlemen - wow)), Ramble On, Sugar Magnolia, Promised Land, Deal, the list goes on. But there was so much good stuff I like in 77/78 - Scarlet Fire, Music Never Stopped, Estimated Eyes, Help-Slipknot-Franklin, The Wheel, Samson, the list goes on.
  • #6632
    JimInMD
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    For the Shakedown Sessions, I don't think it was that he wasn't welcome to the studio, its that there were days that he didn't even show up, especially towards the end. Jerry, in particular, was pissed and asked John Kahn to finish. He even has keyboard credits on the album. Wouldn't that qualify to some of the comments at least? I also think Keith's playing is brilliant for most of his career with the Dead, and I often spend large amounts of time listening to the Keith Years. I also think band members opinions count. So there's a lot to this, but most importantly I don't recall any significant volume of people bashing Keith's playing on this thread. ..and if there are some comments you might not like, they are almost always in response to someone stirring the pot with Brent bashing, which certainly offends people. I was just highlighting that for a host of reasons Feb '17th was their last show, so lets be thankful for what we have instead of dwelling on what we cannot impact. It is what it is. That's all, nothing personal.
  • #6633
    Cousins Of The…
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    Just finished listening Row Jimmy from 3/20/77. Keith sounds great backing up Jerry's fine, lyrical solo, but is clobbered by every hit of Mickey's bass drum. I think this was mentioned a few weeks ago; very apparent to me on this track. To my ears, it sounds like there was a change in the mix from 76 to 77; more emphasis on the drums(esp. bass drum), and a less "crispy" bass, making the overall sound a little muddier than it was.
  • #6634
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    I love the keyboard/era debates!
    I don't agree that "old" topics, such as era- and keyboard debates should be retired. This day's posts has been the most interesting here to me in weeks: from floridabobs culture reflections all through the Keith decline discussion. Almost anything that generates a flurry of thoughtful posts seems cool to me as long as it's civil. As a lifelong Deadhead, I think the era/keyboard debate is perfectly relevant and (for me) endlessly fascinating (well, nearly endlessly). I'm extemely conflicted and ambivalent about most of the Dead's post-hiatus music and have been that way for >35 years. Where else can we talk about these things? If we only stuck to the forum topic, we all know these threads dry up quickly and become boring as all hell. My guess is that,era/keyboard discussions generate the most interest here, despite complaints about "old, well worn" topics. Anyone really bored can just scroll though topics that don't interest them. I did draft a long post to contribute to the Keith decline discussion but lost the draft. Basically, I agree with LoveJerry. Keith sounds fine to me in the late 70's but as someone pointed out, he seems very low in the mix. Yes, there is a huge difference in Keith's playing E72 and May 77; but the same could be said for Phil and Bobby's playing. How could anyone not notice a similar decline in their playing? Listen to any of Bob and Phil's playing from the late 70's compared to, say Fillmore 2/69, E72, or WInterland 73. Night and day.
  • #6635
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    hahahaha What?? He stole Jerry's stash??
    No wonder he wasn't welcome (and no wonder he couldn't finish the Shakedown Street session). Hey hey, Jerrylover, don't drag my name in the mud lol. I only said he was a fair pilot. No but really Keith Moon was like the tazmanian devil with drumsticks. If anyone has heard his live stuff from Tommy and Live at leads, in that '69 - '70 zone, you know what I'm talking about. I can understand why Clapton or Baker (I forget which one) would have given that snide expression when asked about Moon's talent compared to Baker, because Ginger was great, a time keeper, an arranger, and so much more than a drummer when it came to making music, but Moon was off the rails excellent, and completely untouchable from '68 - '73. But if you compiled the best live 2 hours of Moon with the best live 2 hours of Baker, Moon is a step or two ahead. What Baker brought to music composition, Moon brought to live performance.
  • #6636
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    I am asking "us" because "us" are the folks who frequently say Keith's playing declined without a lick of evidence to substantiate that assertion. Forget what you've read on Wikipedia or wherever, since it's not exactly a well documented topic, and listen to the music - where is it? Did Phil really say that? If he said it, is it true? In a court of law it's nothing more than hearsay. Give me a song or just recognize that every time someone comments that his playing declined is probably going off the Wiki quote or the comment from Blair Jackson's book (thanks for sharing, never saw it before), but a couple of off-handed subjective remarks do not make it true, and they don't hold up to scrutiny, which is my main point. People are regurgitating hearsay that does not hold up to scrutiny - no wonder politicians lie so much - it's so easy to pass lies off as truth to the masses. It's actually kind of scary. It would be interesting to scan this site for the past several months to see how often this unsubstantiated rubbish was repeated. I kind of feel bad for Donna. And the reason I didn't bring up anything like drug use or marital problems is because it has nothing to do with my argument, which is simply that his playing did not suffer on the stage, and I have the tapes to prove it :-) Or maybe I don't - I am willing to admit I was wrong or uninformed, which is why I posted in the first place - to find out if anyone can point to a performance where his playing was off. Keithfan mentioned Keith Moon - at least when his playing was said to have declined before his death, you can hear it in recordings (Kilburn 1977, Who Are You). That I believe, because it's well documented and easy to hear.
  • #6637
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    Of course I agree with LoveJerry - not because I'm a Keith fan, but because it's true - there is really very little primary source evidence that Keith's playing deteriorated. Wikipedia? Even if Phil said it, ex-bandmates deride each other all of the time, it's the single most predictable type of slander they throw at one another. I'm sure he nodded off at the wheel a few times, but that's hardly a deterioration in skills. Not that it's a good thing. But I get LoveJerry's sentiment, which I might also add was not an argument about the reasons he left the band so much as a defense of his playing. So while yeah, some folks have pointed out that there was drug use and whatever, the main point is that folks comment about Keith's deterioration of skill on here all the time, presumably because they read a Wiki quote or Blair Jackson comment - yet the evidence, the music betrays the notion that there was anything substandard in his playing. If I'm reading her post accurately she's just asking someone to point out which songs/shows/period demonstrates this decreased ability to play, and indignant (correct me if I'm wrong JerryLover) that when the topic of his departure comes up, everyone always says he couldn't play, he couldn't play, he couldn't play. I have, myself tried to substantiate that claim that he could no longer play, but just can't find it. The proof should be in the pudding, but it's not. Long live Keith. Both of them - Keith Moon drummed circles around Ginger - he just colored out of the lines a lot.
  • #6638
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    Why ask us? We didn't kick him out of the band. There's a few factors you are not bringing up besides his playing. I don't think any of us question he was a brilliant piano player loaded with talent. But.. First there was his escalating drug use. By late '78 Keith had a heroin addiction (and for that matter so did Jerry). Towards the end of Shakedown Street, Keith couldn't even be found to finish the keyboard tracks on some of the unfinished songs, so John Kahn of all people filled in and did them. In Rock Skully's book, Rock states Keith was rumored to have stolen Jerry's stash once, which really pissed off Jerry. Shortly after that, Keith wasn't part of the JGB. Can't ask any of them if its true because they've all passed by now.. but I don't think there's much doubt about their drug use and drug of choice in these years. There was also the relationship trauma. There were regular fireworks between Keith and Donna on a regular basis. Violent fights, trashed hotels, smash up derby's in the parking lots, ...drama.. tension.. yuk. And then there was his playing. I think his playing had diminished or at the very least was not consistent by late '78, early '79 and, well, the sad truth is.. you can't get rid of Jerry and I'm not sure if having two junkies in the band was something they wanted or could continue with. Keith and Donna wanted to leave too. I think she left a few shows early in one of the last tours because she couldn't take it either. Remember, they were trying to raise small kids at the time. So its well documented that the parting was mutual. I'm not sure what is to be accomplished by going down that rabbit hole. They left and they got a new piano player. We weren't there, but I imagine if we were and if we were privy to all the facts and details.. well, my guess is one way or another, that darkness had to give. One Edit: I read cousins reply (which was classic). Yes, amateur slide guitar hour. aaaack! Love ya Bobby... but on this one, I agree with my cousin. He supposedly started playing more slide to get the sounds he (they) wanted they keys. ..and yes, Donna in particular was drinking a lot, but Keith was chasing the dragon.
  • #6639
    JimInMD
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    I agree with your post. I think most people's minds on this are 'set like concrete'. The back and forth is usually non-productive, and I can't say I learn a ton from it.. especially when the posts come with barbs or put down another's tastes or preferences. I actually don't see the debate, I like the Keith years.. but spring '79 was their last hurrah, and enter the '80's and they got a new keyboard player. It is what it is. I am thankful someone pressed "record" on the tape deck, sit back and enjoy (or press skip if there's out there that doesn't tickle your pleasure bone).
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    Check out JGB live shows from 1978
    Some great stops along the way from Keith in 1978. And another vote for Red Rocks July 7-8, 1978. Tennesse Jed ; Passenger ; Peggy-O ; The Music Never Stopped Killer four piece combo to end first night 1st set
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 06:23

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Something to chew on. Hemingway was named after the Cuban port town of Mariel. Also, majitos were believed to be first concocted in Cuba. Hmmmmmm. To fit my taste. A Cuban sandwich's main meat ingredients are ham and pork. Both derived from a fat little pig? Paging Mr. Pigpen. The coolest cat of them all. Where you be Mr. chain blue lightning?
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Submitted by cjm on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 06:57

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The thing about Bolo's clues is they always fit more than one show, and my guesses are always incorrect. For example, Mariel Hemingway was also in Star 80. So a 1980 show. Ernest Hemingway lived in Cuba. He also lived in Key West, FL. Gainesville is in Florida and the Dead played there on Nov. 29,1980. What about Gainesville? On another note, I am looking forward to hearing 3/18/71 from 30 Trips because it is from that very brief period when Jerry was playing the Alembic "Peanut" guitar.
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Submitted by SAMTHARDMAN on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 07:16

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Sounds like Pig to me. Portland, Oregon sits on top of volcanoes (I am assuming inactive). Do I dare guess 1/16/70 Springer's Inn? We did get Easy Wind as a bonus song on the remastered Workingman's Dead live from 1/16. So you know they had some of the master sounboard in the vault. Just checked it out on archives. A monster show and long enough for a Dave's Picks.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 07:34

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that was my guess also.. even though it does not really fit into bolo24 cryptic message Mariel Hemingway - very interesting, born in Mill Valley on November 22.. Some killer shows from 11.22,, 11.22.68 (Columbus Lol) 11.22.72 11.22.85,, has a few more Check this out - here is a killer show all should enjoy https://archive.org/details/gd1979-12-05.mtx.seamons.112235.flac16
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Submitted by Strider 808808 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 08:24

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Just for fun. Hemingway = Idaho = 1983 Boise. Vast lava beds in southern Idaho. Only time Grateful Dead played Idaho. One of the best Dead concerts of 1983. 1983 Still Raining, Still Dreaming....
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 08:59

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Based on the latest clues, Dave's Picks 15 appears to be a show from the early 80's (but possibly '79) with a performance of Lost Sailor -> Saint of Circumstance. This guess is simply factoring in the comments about being lost and "having mojitos with M. Hemingway." This is as far as I've gotten in my guess... Perhaps the possible clues from last week (or week before) were not clues after all? I was really hoping for some '73 goodness...but oh well. I'm sure whatever show is selected will be terrific (as always). I love reading guesses by others, so keep 'em coming. We probably only have a few days to a week to decipher the clues (before the reveal by Dave L.).
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Submitted by 4evergr8ful on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:08

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When is the next dave picks due? And how was the last one to those who listened, the 72 show?
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Submitted by claney on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:10

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Ach, I just posted in detail about this, complete with links. Somehow lost it when doing the "confirmation" step. So here is the short version: Strider, I think you have it! Hemingway's last house was in Idaho, as a result of impending expulsion from.... CUBA. I just checked the setlist too, wow - what a great looking show!
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Submitted by Zuckfun on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 10:44

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Interesting no one commented on Bolo's mention of "Last thing I remember"...A possible reference to a lyric from "Hotel California"...Though maybe I'm reading too much into it.
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Submitted by dharwin on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 11:25

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There was a volcanic eruption that night but I guess the Hemingway clue doesn't fit??
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 12:32

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Was also the lead in the movie "Star 80" about Playmate Dorothy Stratton. (edit) -- Whoops missed someone else mention this, apologies (edit) 6-13-80 would also do the trick as it is post MSH and features the "smoking crater" of TOO. There are a few ridiculously good FOBs out there and it is a tremendous show.
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Submitted by wilfredtjones on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 12:57

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Phil Lesh speaks fondly of this date in his memoir...
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Submitted by KYTrips on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 13:11

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Yes, the 4/22/79 show was Brent's first show with the band. I only know that because I was just reading about it last night in Bill Kreutzmann's book. Also discussed last night in what I was reading was the 6/12/80 show in Portland... Same night as one of the smaller eruptions of Mt. St. Helens (the big one happened a few weeks before that). 4evergr8ful... the next Dave's Picks ships on August 1st, so hence the speculation on what it will be. Normally, we'd have heard by now with less than 3 weeks until the ship date, but I presume between the 30 Trips stuff, and all the Fare Thee Well goings on, Mr. Lemieux (sp?) is a bit behind. No doubt we'll be trying to listen to him over top of the whistling wind on some lakefront video within a couple of days.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 13:48

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the reveal should happen between now and then,, I would suspect mid next week ,, I am under the impression this will be a Garcia fest release. Slated for release on Captain Trips b-day and also Dave's 14 was fairly heavy with Pigpen and Bobby material. I personally think it will be a show from 1973 or 1976,, with a smokin Eyes of the World.. If its 1973 I am guessing another Dark Star will be included. A few come to mind 2.15.73 8.1.73 (Lol wouldnt that be something)
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Submitted by boblopes on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 14:28

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Mill Valley Music has the Winterland 73 box available for $105 + shipping etc via amazon. I bought one from them a couple of years back and very happy with it. Mine did not have the bonus disk, but had the button. I think flabobaloo got his there too. Anyways thought it was reasonable for such an awesome run of shows!!!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 14:37

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....if it's one of these two for DaP 15, my vote is for Boise. It's actually really close to my fave Santa Fe shows on 9.10 & 9.11....so close, but yet so far....do you hear me Santa Fe!!!
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Submitted by dantian on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 15:46

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That's a great deal for some mighty fine music. If I didn't already have that box, I'd jump on it.

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Submitted by floridabobaloo on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 16:43

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Hi Bob Lopes yes I love mine. Purchased once you mentioned it at Mll Valley. Thanks again. I play it a lot too great set. Too bad they don't offer the same deal on the 77 boxBut if you need be grab it, you'll be glad
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Submitted by Nanno-1974 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:03

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The Idaho guess makes sense because part of that state is covered by basalt (via paleo-volcanic eruptions). This would lead to the 9/2/83 show. However, there are still parts of the clues that don't fit, therefore perhaps there is more to it. I liked the previous guess of something from '73, although I don't know the evidence for this guess. Can any of the clues point to 6/22/73?
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Submitted by .5 mi from tucson on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:14

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Huh? What? Where am I? = Full moon madness The last thing I remember = hotel CALIFORNIA lyric ref. location I was having mango mojitos on a beach in Costa Rica with Mariel Hemingway. = take the first letter of each word and spells out: IW HM MOAB IC RW MH !!!! which really needs no explanation but leaves no doubt of the venue: THE GREEK! All of a sudden I find myself in the middle of a massive volcanic debris field. = clearly scarlet/touch/fire... of course Lava as far as the eye can see = which is what you'd likely see if you saw hell in a bucket Must get back to civilization = club dead vacation shirt ref. popular at the time anchoring it in the 80s but...feeling...woozy = a nod to the epic 2/13/70 feelin groovy dark star jam foreshadowing the encore ... I better find = sentence fragment is a ref. to dark star closer which many believe was cut short because of time constraints and there you have it: 7/13/84! Bertha-> Greatest Story Ever Told, Dire Wolf, CC Rider, Loser, Cassidy, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Hell In A Bucket-> Might As Well Scarlet Begonias-> Touch Of Gray-> Fire On The Mountain-> Women Are Smarter-> Drums-> The Wheel-> I Need A Miracle-> Stella Blue-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Dark Star
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:28

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Flawless logic.
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Submitted by boblopes on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 18:29

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Anyone want to grab any of the Fare Thee Well loot, the shop is open. It looks like they'll be restocking any of the apparel. Bobaloo - thanks - got my Winterland77 when it was release (w/ bonus disc). Would love to trade that bd for the W73 bd... I agree another great release!
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 20:28

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....has some pretty cool looking stuff in it. I especially like the red mandala Santa Clara lithograph. Looks really neat, but shit, I ponied up for the 30 Trips box, so ergo, I must pass....It will all come full circle the last week of September.... ...btw, stumbled across a sweet 1.10.70 Golden Hall selection on the archive that's been Miller-ized....sounds release worthy!! ...btw x 2....0.5 mile, even if that guess was taffy or a yoga instructor, it would be a stretch....
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 22:12

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....went to 1989, and found the Forum show from 2.11. Was at that one, and somewhat remember it. Saw a couple of new uploads, but still need to trench through the mud. Those shows were really loud for some reason. maybe it's 'cause the Forum is basically a tin can with seats....but, hell, they blew the roof off that night. The Only time I mixed x with acid. Don't do that boys and girls. Bad things happen. The Estimated->Space->Take You Home->Drumz->Space->Eyes was primordial. I was a pile of goo on the arena steps....Whoa!! Man, it was loud! ....don't remember much of the rest. Had to have a friend lead me to the bathroom. (psst...don't mix those two!)....slithered up and down the steps I'm sure. Thank God there weren't smartphones then! ....at the time, I thought the show sucked. Thought the highlight was Black Peter (aka the most melancholy song in the set). Was beating my head with my hand afterwards, asking myself, "Why do I follow this band? Blow all this money! I'm not going tomorrow!". I got really down. The next morning, waking up in a motel room that I guess I pitched in on, a guy plays the tape from THAT night! Remember, this was an awesome revelation back then. An overnight turnover. (That's what we called it)...it sounded awesome!.... ....smoked a joint the next night. Learn your limits....
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Submitted by seabird17 on Mon, 07/13/2015 - 22:36

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Bolo was dreaming or kiKcking back... Jack in Jack Straw We Can Share the MUSIC
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Submitted by Birdson on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 08:19

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I looked up a couple of these setlists from the shows they are including, and they look fantastic. I just did all the 50th anniversary shows thinking they would be a nice way to say good bye, but the boys sounded like they weren't anywhere close to being ready to hang up the hat! Now i want More, more, more! Although, I shouldn't say it like i'm surprised, too much of everything is just enough, right??
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Submitted by FH2 on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 09:11

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so when are we going to hear about Dave's Picks? Are we going to hear more about the box, tracks, details etc? the suspense is building.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:11

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glitchy
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Submitted by rdevil on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 20:55

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I was thinking the same thing, jrf68 and no doubt the video you posted is Jose Cardenal's worst nightmare (or maybe his best excuse for taking a day off).Also, I agree with your earlier post about David Crosby's first solo album--if any of you haven't listened in a while it's a good one to dust off. I've always guessed wrong after reading Bolo's clues so I might as well guess wrong again. How about 10-31-80? Mariel Hemingway was in Star 80, so 1980, and Manhattan, so, Radio City Music Hall. Costa Rica literally means "rich coast" which would apply here. Bolo seems lost, Lost Sailor, and confused, Franklin's Tower, and Fire on the Mountain emerges from Space, thus the lava reference. I really enjoyed reading the creative logic that led to the San Jose and Boise guesses. Whatever we get, I'm sure it will be great to listen to as we await Boxzilla.
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:16

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Radio City Music Hall '80? Count me in,I like your thinkin'.:) Setlist looks great.Got it cued up on Archive for work tomorrow!
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Submitted by Deadheadbrewer on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 22:33

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But I'm busily brewing a Southern English Brown Ale; plus, I'm befuddled by Bolo's clue. Mariel Hemingway apparently has mentioned that the GD experience was very unforgiving to her eldest sister:http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Mariel-Hemingway-shares-stories-of-… I'm also wondering if I'm the only one who was a bit disappointed in the final Chicago show. I was unable to see/hear the other shows, due to a family vacation, but made certain to get to a theater for the final show. It started well enough, but I don't know that anyone wanted to hear Built to Last. Then the ending of Samson broke down, and Mountains really went nowhere, in my opinion. All of a sudden, it's the last song of the first set, and we hear the opening notes of Throwing Stones, which doesn't have very positive lyrics for what I thought might be a very uplifting evening. The band did a great job with it, but still . . . Then, as soon as the second set is truly cranking(!), we're already at Drumz/Space. That section was well done, but I thought I heard The Wheel coming, which would have been great. Instead, here's Unbroken Chain, which to my ears, really bogged down. The energy in the theater I was in went way down during that song. And then my heart broke a bit to hear Bobby dragging us into Days Between, which I always considered to be a lousy song. By the time the band fought its way through that, the mood in the theater was forlorn. Not Fade Away was fun, but then to have Phil come out to 70,000 chanting, clapping fans (plus we were chanting and clapping in the theater) to give his donor rap was the final straw for me. Game over. Touch was fine, but then to end with Attics?--a song they could barely pull off forty years ago when a few of them could almost still sing?--a song where most band members aren't even playing instruments? I'm sorry, but I thought they could have come back out all together to pick up the NFA pulse, then drive it into GDTRFB, then end with something peppy, like Casey Jones. They probably should have played all the Santa Clara songs again in Chicago. No one would have minded, and the songs would have been better rehearsed. It might have been better for them to have worked up three shows worth of songs, rather than five. Your mileage may have varied! :) I absolutely CANNOT WAIT for this box set to arrive!!
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Submitted by jrf68@hotmail.com on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 23:18

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Detoured into 1967.The Golden Road Box bonus disc.DEATH DON'T HAVE NO MERCY! 2-2-67 RCA-Victor Studio A,Hollywood,Ca. studio,but oh so sweet. :)
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Tue, 07/14/2015 - 23:37

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So I was listening to DP's 22 (Kings Beach Bowl 2/23/68) and during a spacey feedbacky section of Spanish Jam on side 1 I hear an electronic modulating buzz that I hadn't noticed before. It sounded so cool so right but I couldn't figure out what instrument it was or who was playing it. Turned out it was a helicopter hovering over a construction site a few blocks from my house. Talk about surround sound!
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Submitted by dantian on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 01:25

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I guess I had fairly low expectations and so was pleasantly surprised. Strange you mention Mountains of the Moon not going anywhere, as that was actually the highlight of the show for me; I felt they really hit on a nice group dynamic while playing that tune, even recapturing some of the old magic, and wished it would have lasted longer. Estimated seemed like it was (or could have been) transforming into something else at the end, but sadly they didn't take it anywhere. Was not terribly crazy about the set list itself, but I suppose melancholy carried me through, and it is what it is. All in all, I was happy that I tuned in to witness it.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 05:21

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If I was to order this, would it charge my credit card immediately or on the day it releases? if anyone can tell me it would be much appreciated Thanks.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 05:50

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mmm, those pesky black hawks. They are on to you, mhammond, and they know about the safe spot at Joshua Tree. The sacred tree in the Atlas mountains seems safe for now. Good luck, tell VGuy we all said hello.. Don't worry, any day now they will get distracted with Iran and forget about you. You should be back in a week, two tops. ___________ Andrew, I believe they will put through a hold on your credit card for the price of the box, but not charge it until it ships. Get the box, tell your wife the charge was for a new, black market kidney, kiss her on the forehead and ask her to please not ask any questions... That's what the rest of us did and there has been very little push-back, no divorces thus far.
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Submitted by Syracuse78 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 06:52

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I think the RCMH shows were recorded in multitrack, so I would be very surprised if they released a show from that run in the DaP series. PS -- great to see the Blackhawks get a shoutout! They are my favorite team in sports. :)
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 07:43

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I tend to agree with you, Syracuse, that this might not be the next Dave's Picks for a variety of reasons.. but we could be wrong. I do wonder if the multi-tracks survived as many were erased.. Didn't some of this appear on Dead Ahead / Dead Set though? What a mess.. if you could only go back in time to the instant just before those 16 track master tapes were erased and slap the person who erased them around a little, give him/her some sodium pentothal, drop clockwork orange eye drops into his/her eyes and tell them politely to please stop what they are doing and put Owsley in charge of the tapes safe passage.. Then go back another 10 years and record all the summer/fall '70 shows with the same multi-track recorder. Life would be grand.
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Submitted by claney on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:04

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Jim, I have a time machine and some eye droppers ready to go. Shipping them to you now.
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Submitted by mbarilla on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:06

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6.7.70 - Swing Low Sweet Chariot : Cumberland Blues 10.3.80 - Bird Song > Ripple 11.21.85 - Shakedown Street > Crazy Fingers > Playin' in the Band > She Belongs to Me > Drums 7.12.90 - Let the Good Times Roll : Feel Like A Stranger : Bertha Plenty of primo nuggets from these 4 shows. And a special mention to this combo...Far From Me > Cassidy from 7.12.89.. I heard a few days ago, which was the first time I have heard any Cassidy since the Core 4 completely rocked it out at Soldier Field.. 7.13.89 Cassidy sending laser beams to my face
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Submitted by JimInMD on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:27

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Thanks claney, Start looking for new Charlie Miller sbds on the archive. You will know if I was successful if you start seeing new seeds of previously non-circulating tapes begin to appear. They should start appearing any day now.
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Submitted by DJMac520 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 08:37

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For another Cassidy that will peel paint, check 7-24-87 VFTV 4
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Submitted by allman on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 09:29

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Did Dave drop the brown acid at the Fare Thee Well shows? No Dave's Picks announcement, no update to the 30 Trips listening party, no new video of the 30 Trips box layout. Can someone talk Dave down? He's got to get back to work.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:16

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Thanks a lot JimInMD I will definitely get it now since I was on the fence about it. I'm not married so I won't be getting a divorce once it ships hahaha.
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Submitted by Andrew91 on Wed, 07/15/2015 - 10:30

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Shoot I was to slow, just went to put my order through and it's telling me that it sold out. Damn I'll be missing out on that Alligator-Caution from 67.
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