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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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June 17, 2015 - 1:00pm

#6591

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

Sweeeeeet

Pretty awesome radio show.
June 17, 2015 - 10:27am

#6592

uv1

Joined:
June 21, 2012

Let there be songs to fill the air!

Thanks for that link @frankparry. Can't say I'm impressed with the design of the 4-CD box, but I'll bet the 80-disc box will be awesome. And what a monster it'll have to be. Just look at 80 CD's in your collection and see how much space they take up! I'm betting there will be a cardboard slipcase for each show. Or maybe it'll be in the style of a book. It looks like that's what they went for with the 4-disc set. If that's the case, it may be hard for folks to sell off single shows as we've seen on this board and on eBay. Besides which, I think the idea of breaking up the box defeats the vision that Dave had: i.e. taking in the 30-year journey that was the life of the Grateful Dead. So if you're someone who loves the 70's Dead, this may be an opportunity to have some later era music in your collection. And if you're an 80's/90's lover, then this is the chance to go back a bit further. My story is this: I started listening to the Grateful Dead with the album "Without A Net," so Brent has always sounded great to me. I never did get to see Brent, though. I saw the Dead 4 times -- 3 in '91 and once in '93. I was at the 2 MSG shows before the 9/10/91 show in the box. Then I stopped listening for years. It wasn't until my son was born 3-1/2 years ago that I started listening again. Man, I was HOOKED! I tracked down every Road Trips and Bonus Disc over the next year, and then started in on the Dave's Picks and newer box sets as they came out. Despite my expanding collection, I was still pretty stuck in the late 80's and early 90's. But I slowly worked my way backwards. '77 and '74 offered ample rewards for my listening, but earlier than that was a little too much for me. Kinda raw at times. And Pigpen took some getting used to. So it took me a while to get into '72 and all that the European tour has going for it. Now I can dig it. On the other side of the Dead's career, I shied away from post '91 stuff. Without Hornsby, what magic did the band still have up their sleeves? Then I pulled out th '93 Cal Expo Road Trips this year. I've gotta tell you, it's good. Way better than I thought it should be. So when I first saw this box set, I thought, "Way too expensive," and "Too much stuff that I don't want." But the more I thought about it, the more excited I became to hear those shows from years I had shied away from - pre '72 and post '91. I think the box will be an amazing opportunity to experience the full scope of what the Grateful Dead's music was. Thanks for reading. Reach out your hand If your cup is empty If your cup is full May it be again
June 17, 2015 - 10:11am

#6593

floridabobaloo

Joined:
April 30, 2014

Time being short

I came up with a rather new twist. Listening to an entire show sometimes just isn't possible, so what I've done is to select one disc from a set and create a mix up. Yesterday I started with some 73 and jumped to 90 then back to 72, etc. kinda works with the 50th concept. I have SO much Dead now, I might be able to only enjoy 1 complete show in a day and that would take a while to go thru all of it. So this approach is in play. I'm also rotating in terms of sets too. First sets and then Second.It gives me a broad palate to draw from and lots of years to combine into one big groove for the day. I've read were some folks wouldn't try this, but it's working in the summer heat so far! Enjoy yourselves!
June 17, 2015 - 9:04am

#6594

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Change

There's some good insight into some of the music that influenced Jerry and some of the directions he wanted to explore or did not in the following March '78 JGB interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya2Vv1zcGmY It gives some background on the edgier, harder feel the music took on at that time. There's an interesting piece about new wave and punk that starts about 29 min in. Very interesting stuff.. if you had the same conversation say in '72 or '73, Its very likely names like Django Reinhardt, Ornette Coleman, Miles Davis and the like might just pop up. At one point Garcia states, "I like Cheap Trick." A musical Omnivore he was.. 35 min in he speaks highly of the Who and Townsend but says its a drag to do the same show '4 years in a row. Change and reinvention is a part of the golden thread this tapestry is woven from. Anyway, more food for thought. The only thing constant in this world is change.
June 17, 2015 - 8:16am

#6595

ToddWCorey70

Joined:
July 30, 2012

Keith

Unfortunately, when I think of Keith's later playing, I invariably think of the Cornell Fire. His blocky repetitive chords are just a sin, and almost ruin this amazing song for me. Give me his early stuff any day, the man was fantastic!
June 17, 2015 - 8:06am

#6596

frankparry

Joined:
June 8, 2007

Box Design

I'm not sure if this has been posted before but the British magazine Uncut has a picture of the 4CD version of 30 Trips box and a description and link to Viola Lee Blues: http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/grateful-dead-exclusive-hear-an-unreleased-…
June 17, 2015 - 7:09am

#6597

MrHeartbreak

Joined:
August 2, 2013

@Thin

"But I think some of the reason he began to decline is the band's '78 swerve into louder, fuzzier, raunchier tones and electric rock 'n roll (vs the ragtime band). When Keith joined in 1971 it was a 1-drummer band and by '73 they were playing light, loose and ragtime/jazzy. But suddenly in '78 they were in full beast mode and a piano doesn't really fit into a raging 2-drummer band easily - must have been frustrating for him." Excellent post, Thin. I never articulated this correctly, and I think you are right. Since we were talking about the "non-factor" issue (and I'd never actually noticed anything BAD before, like the 12/31/78 bad chord), I decided to check out a couple songs from the famous 5/8/77 gig. After all, we all know that show, right? I dialed up Estimated Prophet in the car, and listened for what Keith was doing. Now, granted, I'm cruising down the road in 93-degree Florida heat, so the AC is cranked to the max, but let me just say: during the first 3 minutes or so that I road-tested that song, I did not hear Keith...at all. I could hear everybody else: Phil, Jerry, Bobby, Mickey & Billy. I skipped ahead to Morning Dew, and I heard a little bit of tinkling piano during the first few minutes...nothing bad, but nothing remarkable. Sounded low in the mix, too...very low. Maybe they really did turn his volume down overall? No idea. For contrast, I listened to a Yes show from the same basic era, '78. Rick Wakeman on keyboards. Now, it's not a fair comparison, I know: different band, different style. But I'll tell you what: those keyboards were prominent, I mean PROMINENT, in the mix. All over the place. So maybe it wasn't just drugs, passivity, or whatnot. Maybe he really was mixed intentionally low by the latter years of the Godchauxs' tenure.
June 17, 2015 - 6:51am

#6598

estimated-eyes

Joined:
December 31, 2008

12/31/78

I always liked this show, but Keith is a non-factor and he really blows it toward the end of Good Lovin'-- when the rest of the band stops at one point, Keith hits a big chord. That is one of the worst obvious errors I have heard in all my GD listening, way worse than any vocal flubs they regularly made. Re: Beware Mr. Baker and the Clapton comment, in the movie they talk about Ginger's style a lot and that he was really a jazz drummer thrust into a rock and roll band. Clapton's comment, I think he was more appalled by the comparison to Bonham, you can hear him say, "no, no, Zep..." and then he catches himself before being caught on camera bashing LZ. Ginger could swing, hit 'em hard and provide some world beats, too. I like Keith Moon a lot and find his drumming amazing in his prime. This documentary gave me a better appreciation of Ginger Baker's talents-- in spite of the fact that he is absolutely insane.
June 17, 2015 - 6:38am

#6599

Thin

Joined:
June 21, 2013

Keith "going through Jerry's briefcase"???

Rdevil - Can you clarify what is meant by "Keith going through Jerry's briefcase may have been his biggest sin"??? Do you mean he was actually busted rifling through his stuff/stealing Jerry's stash, or was that just a euphemism for "he was doing the same, err…, recreational stuff as Jerry and it had a very negative effect"? I do recall a story from one book where someone had stolen Jerry's stash from his briefcase and he started VERY indiscreetly confronting people "Who took my bindle!" Maybe these stories are related (though probably not - made me think of it though…) I'm mildly uncomfortable that this is getting into unsavory gossip, but I'm hitting "send" anyway...
June 17, 2015 - 6:35am

#6600

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

Keith vs Mickey

What an interesting take that I never thought about before, it's Mickey's fault ;) It does stand the basic logic test of jazz based piano players were considered part of the rhythm section and the addition of a 2nd drummer would leave less space for Keith in the mix, where as syths, cheesey keyboards and organ would occupy a different spot in a 2 drummer line up. things to listen for in the future. Billy's new book has also given me lots to listen for and highly recommended for his point of view from the drummers seat on the mood/drug consumption of the periods. Jerry seems to be one of the few junkies that could still play well far longer than most of the people around him and even though it became a problem, they let it continue as the money became everyone's drug of choice at the end. meanwhile Weather Report suite from 9/12/73 SBD just shuffled on and Keith is sounding great, too bad theres a bunch of horns soloing where Jerry should be playing and it sounds like a flock of waterfowl having an orgy.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Warlocks box and inventory

If you want that release. Jump on it now. One thing Rhino seems to be doing is let the product sell out and not go back to it. The titles that don't specify if they are limited will most likely be re-issued. But I would guess it may take a while. At least 10 years after sellout before they re-issue. And if it does get re-issued. Most likely at a higher cost, jump on it before it hits secondary market and then who knows what the cost will be.

Warlocks box question

Okay, speaking of the Warlocks box - I would love some feedback on that from you folks. I passed on it due to a general lack of love for post-coma Dead. However, I did finally get the Spring 90 TOO set and really like most of it (though not the long jams where MIDI takes over, and, believe it or not, I don't care all that much for the vaunted Branford show, which as someone said a while ago, sounds like soft jazz to me. (Not saying it isn't great playing - just not my subjective thing - please don't jump on me). I've easily listened to that version of Loose Lucy a dozen times. The cost also threw me - the Warlocks Box always seemed like a pretty bad deal, on a per disc basis, considering it's far from my favorite era. Anyway, the Warlocks Box - how does it compare to other releases, to Spring 90, etc?

Warlocks box question

Warlocks box

FWIW for me, I can justify the cost after considering just how tastily Phil Rocks the Help on the Way>Slipknot! from 10/8. 10/9 ices it. Tremendous enjoyment every time.

superb 2nd set from 8/21/80

@Claney Definitely some great playing and not just an interesting setlist. The Uncle John's jam is pretty intense. Someone on archive described as being to similar to an PITB jam, which I could definitely see. & on the Warlocks box. Have you heard the Nightfall of Diamonds Show? If you haven't heard that I would check that out 1st. If you like that, then you will definitely like the Warlocks Box.

Warlocks Box

Seems it sold out. Went to purchase one and gonzo. Anyone squirrel one away for me?

Warlocks Box SOLD OUT

well that worked,, they gobbled those up quick.. That always happens. When someone mentions the low inventory count usually they show up on eBay shortly after.. October 1989 -Warlocks box stocked full of highlights -Nightfall of Diamonds is Killer as well as the other Meadowlands shows,, -3 nights at Spectrum could be a sweet box,, with 10.18.89 being the standout show.. -And super under the radar show is Charlotte 2nd night. 10.23.89 ,,, with a killer 1st set highlights all over and 2nd set with cool song choice. Charlotte has a few under the radar bangers,, from 5 years earlier to kick off the Fall 1984 tour 10.5.84

Warlocks Shows

These were stand-out shows. I still reach for them from time to time, lots of energy, focused playing, they were on a mission and there are break-outs a plenty. This was the test balloon for Without A Net. I recently gave all the released material from Warlocks through Spring '90 a spin. I thought the Hampton shows sounded a lot like Spring '90, whereas Spring '90 TOO had better separation and a cleaner sound. Hampton sounded best really loud, they were epic shows. Get em while can, the prices are still 'reasonable' on the secondary market which probably will not last and the box design itself is interesting. I was surprised to see everyone didn't already have this. These shows are good recordings of a the pivot point to the last great hurrah. Edit/re dogstar: Amazon still has them new for not too much above what the price was at Dead.net after shipping. There's 1 left used for the same price dead.net had them for new. Doesn't seem outrageous yet.

10.23.89

@mbarilla - Now this is one hot f*%*$n show!!! I've never heard them do "California Earthquake" before. I read someplace they only played it twice? Very cool song.

Warlocks '89 box

I too love these shows. I love almost ALL the 10/89 shows, particularly the end of the month. I think they were really on fire then!However, Claney, you mentioned not really enjoying "where MIDI takes over". The Fall '89 tour that the Warlocks shows kicked off is where the MIDI action becomes a much bigger part of the band's sound. Even Jerry's solo in Candyman gets MIDI-ed. And the Dark Stars all culminate in a MIDI stew that I liked to seperately track as "Crashing Jam" on my first generation of Deadshow CDRs. If you don't like MIDI you won't enjoy the peaking moments in these shows. Anyone who doesn't have a problem with MIDI should have the Warlocks '89 box (and 10/16, 10/20, 10/22, 10/26 to name a few more), but anyone who is bothered by MIDI should proceed with caution (and maybe not step on these tracks). Gee, a 10/2X/89 BOX would make me return to buying GDM boxes!

Formerly the Warlocks....

....was on the fence since this set came out years ago. Jumped off the fence last night and snagged one....I'm not going to go down the '77 Winterland box road again!!

Thanks for the Warlocks comments

Great posts folks - though I guess it's a moot point now, at least from this site. And also because Boxzilla, well, you know. Seth - your post helps - I really do struggle to get past the MIDI, and there is so much else I still want...

Riverbend '85

SiriusXM just finished playing a high-energy Oade Bros recording of the 9/3/85 show at Starlight Theatre, KC. Nice way to grease the skids for the return of Cryptical Envelopment>The Other One contained on the Riverbend show in Boxzilla. The actual break out was at the Greek a week earlier, but the Riverbend show has a nice crisp sound to it and a nice Comes A Time. I know.. its not the same as 1970, Jerry's voice was haggard, brent, etc.. True, but this ones still hot and what a pull-out year 1985 was. Lots of fresh material and an energy boost year. Whoever mentioned 11/2/85 recently (might have been a doc's pics) must have been drinking the same kool aid I was that year. There are some high-energy, later year shows in this box.. Can't wait for the sonic upgrades. One Dave's Picks and three months to go before the a UPS truck marked 'wide load' drops this off on our doorsteps. Edit: Serendipitous. I just now received my DaP15 shipping notice. WooHoo. Edit2: Snafu, wrong addy on the address confirmation. BooHoo.

@JimInMD

1 - I too received a DaP15 confirmation with my zip code wrong. I have been buying from them for years & years. How does this happen all of a sudden? 2 - Take a closer look at your calendar. It is only TWO months until Boxzilla arrives and not three as you thought 3 - I enjoyed the book very much that you sent me about the Brotherhood Rock on

DaP 15

I also got a confirmation email with the Zip Code wrong (as well as the spelling of my town). Something seems to be fishy in Deadland...

10.23.89 California Earthquake & Bay Area quake

the Charlotte performance was the 2nd and final time played. mustin321, glad you liked.. It was a tribute for the Bay Area quake that happened right before one of the World Series games featuring A's versus Giants.. The Tennessee Jed and Let it Grow are very nice to close the set.. Warning! Warning!! Warning!!! this piece may cause the feeling of lasers beams on your face.. 7.21.84 - Ventura County Fairgrounds - Today in GDHistory China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider First set is very nice with a few highlights and settles down nicely after about halfway through Shakedown,, that is when the Grateful Dead hit a nice groove and the rest of 1st set is smooth as butter... Check out Althea for my other primo highlight of the 1st set. Jerry hits a few zingers and is a good reminder for me why I like all eras

Today's PM listening habit:

Sal Salvador "Quintet/Quartet" 7/21/54Thelonious Monk "Plays Duke Ellington" 7/21/55 Sonny Clark "Dial 'S' for Sonny" 7/21/57 Duke Ellington "Newport 1958" (studio sessions) 7/21/58 Oscar Peterson "Plays Cole Porter" 7/21/59 Bobby Hutcherson "Oblique" 7/21/67 Dexter Gordon "Take the 'A' Train" & "Both Sides of Midnight" 7/21/67 GOGD Paramount Northwest (GD Download #10) 7/21/72 Fantastic!!! Old & In the Way Lion's Share 7/21/73 GOGD Hollywood Bowl 7/21/74 And if I make through those, I've got a Studio One Soul Jazz disc called Rude Boy sittin' purdy featuring selections from 1965 to 1980. More Guinness & Matusalem GR, porfa.

SHIPPING ADDRESS SNAFU

My confirmation DaP email also had incorrect city name and zip code and i too have been at the same place for over 15 years. Quick call to Dead.Net confirms that despite this email hey indeed have the correct mailing info and "whoever sent out these emails did something screwy"

Re; Riverbend '85 Set 2

This was one of the first true bootleg's of live Grateful Dead the other was set 2 Cape Cod '79.When they went into Cryptical out of Smokestack it was one of the most beautiful things I ever heard. I could feel the Sun rising and all the light shine in, and now both are released in this box wow can't wait to hear them.

No information on high res mastering!

I wonder if anyone knows anything about the mastering used for the FLAC files on the USB version. Are they just upsampled from the CD masters (hope not!), are they original 96kHz transfers from the analog tapes, and upsampled from 48kHz DAT's? I recently bought the high res FLAC of Wake Up to Find Out - it is superb, crystalline sound (maybe the CD is also, never heard it), probably the best (sonically) GD recording that I've ever heard. They are very good at talking about the various marketing gimmicks (fancy box, limited edition, etc.), but nothing specific about how the recordings were mastered. I've written to what dead.net calls customer service, but they ignored me. It would be a disappointment if the FLACs are just upsampled from the CDs.

PICTURES OF THE BOX-ARTWORK

Can we get a video of the box with what it's going to look like? I am really on the fence and would like to see more about this release. $700 is a lot of dough for CDs

not sure what they will use Ziffle ,, email Dave L.

,, i think its vault@dead.net and use grateful dead in subject line... but you are correct "Wake Up to Find Out - it is superb, crystalline sound, probably the best (sonically) GD recording that I've ever heard." Spring 90 TOO sounds fantastic,, just wish they would have treated the 1st box that way,, In my opinion, the shows in the 1st box are just a tad better overall when stacked up against each other.

re; No information on high res mastering!

If you're talking about the DAT's. Then yes they were up-sampled that was for remastering process, and according to a audio engineer they play better at 24/96 than what's on the cd's. The rest were transferred from 2-track reels, multi-track reels, cassettes and PCM tapes to 24/96. David Lemieux on the ultimate Dead box set https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2015/06/27/david-lemieux-ultimate-dead…

Re: hbob

Glad you enjoyed the read. If I didn't know it was true, I would have believed it.

re; No information on high res mastering!

Maybe the two that were multi-track recordings were transferred at 24/192, but there only 24/96 on the usb. edit: The DAT'sat 16/48 were transferd to 24/96 and were not up-sampled from the cd's just to be clear.

JGB

JGBOff the topic, is there an "archive" type site if you will that has a vault of JGB shows?! I noticed they don't seem to be on the archive...is there a way to browse/access/stream/download the vault of JGB shows throughout the years?! Anyone?

Re: gr8ful & JGB Archive

The Jerry Garcia Band and later his Estate never granted permission for trading, archiving, streaming etc. You can find a few out there, but they are few and far between and usually in the shadows, not the daylight.

jfr68.....re: WARLOCK'S BOX & HOFHEINZ ALERT

jrf68, It really was at 8 Boxes.....Also, Hofheinz was not as low but......I'd grab one if you are without. Less than 50, really. ;)

Warlocks

Wish they print a few more Warlock boxes. I missed out - on my list - thought there would be enough so I could get it for Christmas. Gave it another thought a couple of days ago, but ordered some of the books about the Dead that I had not read instead...

philledawg

Good call!Thanks so much for the offer to hook a fella up.I really appreciate your kind offer. I grabbed one the day they put 'em up for sale,so I'm dailed-in! :-)

Who is this band?....

....and why do they keep showing up on my credit card statement? Seriously, I have one card deadicated to releases. $800 limit. 30 Trips tested the waters fo sho...

Vguy

HaHAHAAA!!! That is one of the best comments on this site, ever. Love it. (that was always my fave bumper sticker)

Classic

Makes for a good American Express commercial. Thanks, VGuy. I busted a nut on that one.

re; No information on high res mastering!

Plangent Process was used for 30 Trips FYI, for anyone interested in these things, it was confirmed on an audiophile forum that the Plangent Process was used for this box on all the analog 1/4" tape shows and the '67 8 track so the majority of the box; it was not used on the cassettes which were a handful, and not the later DAT shows where the process does not apply.

Spring TOO looks great but 30 Trips exhausted my allowance

Yeah, Spring TOO would be great, but I went for 30 Trips, and used up my "allowance". I lost track of the Dead around 1978 (aside from a concert at Wembley in late 1989), and for me, the 30 Trips overview is just terrific. I have read a lot of criticism focusing on Jerry G's personal issues, and I think that it is unfortunate. I saw the Dead many times in 1969-1978. They were never consistent. Some shows were took me to another world, others seemed mundane (and I was going to the supposed legendary Capitol Theater Port Chester shows). The "later" Dead that I've been listening to recently seem to fit the same pattern. Transcendence on occasions, and sometimes listlessness in an arena. I will report back if I get a response about mastering of 30 trips. Others give good information, but it would be nice get something from the horse's mouth. Would be nice to know what we are buying.

7.21 & 7.22.84 Ventura County Fairgrounds

I'm currently listening to 7.22.84 and I'm finding it pretty damn solid. This is my first time listening to either one of these shows... thoughts on 7.21 vs 7.22 or any other early 80's show? Im just asking because this one seems a lot better than other early 80's shows I've heard recently.

84 Ventura

Tight shows for '84, and the sdbds are crisp and clean. 7/21 vs. 7/22? Personal preference I guess, but I am drawn to 7/22. I like the homage to 1970 via the tight Dancin' (old school arrangement)>Bertha opener and Midnight Hour closer. Dancin' and Bertha are strong, the I Just Wanna Make Love to You is a little hokey and under developed but I think they only did this a couple times. The Terrapin and Morning Dew are strong as well. Good shows, focused and inspired playing, fun outdoor venue, clean sound and decent vocals for the most part. Edit: I think there was a conversation on old school vs. the mildly disco Dancin' arrangements on one of these threads about six months back. If memory serves the mid 70's arrangements (think Cornell) slightly edged out the old school arrangements. This is a good version to add to the mix, its old school and done very well. (disclaimer, I voted old school ala Harpur College).

Re:Ventura 84 (day job)

What was the normal crowd reaction to an early 80s "day job" just curious , or when this song would make an appearance on the setlist

Reaction

Day Job was often the encore. A typical reaction, "What lot is the car in again?"

Day Job

My buddy used to call it blow job. Sets that ended with Don't Ease Me In, he'd sing, "don't sleaze me in" Good lovin' was "all you really need is GOOD DRUGS" Years ago I met a guy who thought Bertha was - I had a hard-on running from you window.

30 Trips

I'm super excited about this release. The years 92-95 being represented is really cool, as I seen a lot of shows during those years and the band could still rock on any given night! This might sound crazy but, summer 92 had some killer shows. Rosebud shines during this tour and Jerry's singing is fantastic! Some dates to check: 6/12/92,6/20/92,6/22/92, 6/25/92 and 6/28/92. Also check out the end of 6/29/92 Set 1 So Many Roads, Desolation Row and Deal bringing the set to a nice close.

May be Apocryphal....

but i was told back then by a friend who was close to the band that Day Job was the only song ever taken out of rotation by popular request

Re: snafu

I believe that to be true. Day Job got no respect. Don't think less of me, but it really wasn't that bad at tune, the songs meaning just clashed w/ the culture. ..also they ended quite a few killer shows w/ a day job encore. Our inner circle inside joke was, oh, last night was killer, can't believe you missed this one, should have made the drive (keep in mind this was before the internet and cell phones).. They played Dark Star>St. Stephen>Unbroken Chain>Golden Road>Alligator>Morning Dew>Alligator>Cream Puff War>Dark Star>Death Don't have no Mercy: Day Job encore. Ok. It wasn't that great a tune either, but I always root for the underdog.

Re:Jim

Well put jim, Snafu, think you pretty much nailed it...it clashed with the culture, and was ultimately removed by popular request, pretty catchy tune though, lol, and fun to play on guitar, at least for me.

Re: Mustin ..the rounder we get

To get back full circle to where we started.. Mustin, I don't hear those Ventura shows get mentioned too often, but they are sleeper shows. Great listen, good job and thanks for bringing up some good shows. Would love to hear more comments about the Dancin' in the Streets arrangements. When this came up last no one (including me) noticed that they switched back to the old arrangement in the mid-80's. I guess its Pig vs. Keith vs. Brent now (oops, how do you edit these posts, what did I do?). One Edit: These shows would benefit by Matrix treatment ala DaP8. Just sayin'. Second Edit: Jerry's vocals decline a bit by the end of the show. Too bad, still some good moments in this show.

More on Day Job and Respect

Yes we all used to bust chops about Day Job,,, but I did see a good one. To me that was a great thing about the dead,,, if you went enough you eventually caught a great version of every song. Who hasn't looked at a buddy and said, god damn that was a great fucking Mama Tried! Truly every show had SOMETHING great, maybe the whole show was only ok, but you knew there would be something. 2 regretful songs.... I ALWAYS wanted to see a killer Ghost Riders in the Sky, I knew they could pull it off. Bobby wailin' yippie I Ohh, Yippie I aye, ghost riders in the sky. Lights go down Bobbby stepping back, screaming out of incredible jam with 40,000 head belting out ... Their faces gaunt, their eyes were blurred, their shirts all soak with sweat..... and ending with the whole house yippie I ohh....... And then Bobby says , we'll be right back! That would have been fucking great. (like when I saw my first werewolf of London, on Halloween, in Columbia, SC. The other song I would have loved (and felt Jerry missed his chance),,, he should have done "On Broadway" when he played on Broadway. Jerry coming out of a incredible jam and hitting it right on the mark...."But they're wrong, I know they are. Cause I can play this here guitar. And I won't quit till I'm a star on Broadway"

Jim, re: disco Dancin'

Don't know if this one counts as "disco," maybe disco-ish, but the Dancin' on 6/14/76 is my all time favorite. For a song I often hit the skip button on, this one demands I listen all the way through. They're just so deep in the groove... Of course, a large part of it is that it comes in the middle of an amazing sequence that one simply can't break apart, starting with the best Crazy Fingers you've ever heard (shades of Spanish Jam lie within), and ending with a sublime Cosmic Charlie, but even so, this Dancin' would be great even of its own accord. And then comes the Help > Slip > Franklin's right after. This Slipknot! is not to be missed; more mellow than most, searching and introspective like few others, it covers some interesting ground and goes the distance. I know I've talked up this show before, but I really think it is a great one, and definitely one of the best of '76.

@dantian and received wisdom

Talk up a show from June 76 all you want, good sir. Until recently (thanks Road Trips 4.5!), this month was the victim of the received wisdom that said it was a month of poor, sluggish playing. "They were still getting used to the return of Mickey, blah blah blah." That argument made no sense (it doesn't explain why they kicked so much ass in '75 for example). But I recall seeing that a lot, including in books about the band - the idea that the Dead slowly built to greatness throughout the year. Poppycock!!! Summer '76 Dead is among the top tours in their entire history (Boston, Beacon, Orpheum). Up there with Spring 77. Just a bit below the Falls (71; 72; 73). EDIT: Listening to 6/14 again (it's been awhile, thanks for the nudge). To quote Dennis' erstwhile tour buddy: "That was a great Mama Tried!"

6/14/76

You've inspired me to give this another listen.

Day Job

Never minded it much, never loved it either. Then again, that was sort of an overarching point on encores the last 10 years anyway. But the moment you left early just assuming a Johnny B Goode was coming, BOOM came a Ripple or a Gloria or Faction out of the blue.

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