As I Was Saying in the Chat Room

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April 8, 2008 - 1:15pm

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marye

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...
Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

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May 20, 2010 - 6:19am

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Think Marye has it right

What can you do? The amount of freedom that is allowed is important, perhaps more so than the few who are misbehaving. I think Marye strikes a good balance in a difficult situation. Saying that people should only PM one another because of this is an overreaction. Can't stand the heat? Stay out of the chatroom! (Thanks to all kind heads who have tried to lift the vibe there)
May 19, 2010 - 11:59pm

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johnman

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wow

i believe you're right buddy,......i can only hope i'm not considered part of that group.......though i sure feel like it, sometimes....
May 19, 2010 - 10:36pm

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buddy plant

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As far as I remember...

... we NEVER used to have these issues (chat room misbehavior, not the software kind) in the chat room. What ever happened? I believe the chat room's demise was the discovery, by a certain group of unpleasant, RUDE people, of our peaceful little place on the inet. So what to do? Well, many of us have decided to stay away, we still PM each other from time to time, but I look at it much the same way as the scene at GD shows after the summer of 1987: There's not a damn thing that can be done to fix it. So I guess if ya don't like it, don't use it.
May 19, 2010 - 11:22am

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marye

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chat room misbehavior, not the software kind

mod hat on So folks, as you may have noticed I am not inclined to micromanage life in the chat room. There are several reasons for this, but certainly tops on my list would be the fact that, in my experience, it doesn't work. From time to time I get complaints that this person or that is doing something in the chat room that's making someone else unhappy. Or, even better, two people complaining to me about each other. And let's just say that in many cases serious lines have been crossed, and in many cases the heat of the moment was involved, and throwing stones/glass houses/etc. However, let's just say that harassing and abusing one's fellow participants in the chat room, whether by threatening them, serving up hate speech against some group present or absent, showering people with profanity, or otherwise creating a hostile atmosphere, is behavior that puts one on thin ice. Spammers aside, I very, very rarely block people or delete their accounts. I think it's a very extreme step. Nonetheless, making life a misery for other people hereabouts on a sufficiently regular basis to get noticed definitely improves one's odds of being in this select group, to which I would infinitely prefer not to add at all. Thank you and mod hat off. ME
May 9, 2010 - 10:36pm

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Gypsy Cowgirl

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Chat Room Nerds Unite.....

I thought it was all about fun, games, stories & music in the cr.....? Oh, yeh & "whole lotta love"
May 9, 2010 - 5:54pm

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Anonymous (not verified)

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OK !

thanks CC critter and CosmicBadger , and you Lamagonzo , and Kristen 10 , you had interesting insights, When GD sang Cassidy , it brought a Krishna Dance, and magik blessings around. The right sounds on whatever could maybe still work wonders ! Maybe , or maybe not anymore ...Time will tell ...
May 9, 2010 - 12:03pm

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mona

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man i thought we had got past this

PPL go in forums and chat. its not one or the other. someones not listening on chat. i have foind alot of love on chat. and i see PPl here slamming PPL on chat for things they have done there selves. maybe could say its easy to judge PPl here without someone standing up to u like on chat. we have all worked there to get a posative vibe going now. not easy but it is what we work 4. can u say that about other chats? we r everywhere and to call us drunks ect... have u been to a greatful dead concert??? lmao! love u all no matter where u post lol PEACE (~);-)
May 9, 2010 - 10:37am

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marye

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to my mind

it's kind of like ugly parking lot scenes vs. benign ones. CC Joe posted a great tale of Old School Deadheadism a couple years back that's quite resonant with all this. If you cannot lead the bad actors by example, or use white corpuscle effect on them, just walk away and leave them spewing their bad vibes. As noted above, they thrive on your energy.
May 9, 2010 - 10:34am

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marye

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good discussion, folks

you can't control it. How you deal with it is up to you.
May 9, 2010 - 10:28am

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Canyon Critter

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There Still Are Good Ones

After reading some of these posts, I tend to agree with alot that is said, and alot that is implied, and some not so much. One that I'm sure of through being a "chat room nerd" that we are held accountable! Of course there is no "moderator" as there should not be...we as a community should moderate ourselves. Of course we are going to get the slammers, bashers, haters, and non-good lovin people in there, it's the human race. I do know that we as a whole, the good hearted-kind people in this space we call Cyber, have told the offenders flat out to cut it out. After frequenting this place for alot of years, I do know one thing, there is LOVE and KIND people in there....after so long, you can just pick them out. When I say accountability, we have to be able to govern ourselves, and we do...it's a non-contrallable environment, except for the fact that YOU as a person have the power to control your involvement. In fact this reminds me of John Perry Barlow's battles over the interenet he's had since it all began with the EFF.... When you get involved, get involved with your heart and kindness. Negativity, has no place in our community. I love the Grateful Dead....I am not perfect....BUT, I know that my heart is in the right place and that others hear on Dead.net share that heart! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

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So, we've all had some great conversations interrupted by that misbehaving chatroom lately. Mr. Pid wrote a great song on the subject...

Feel free to pick them up again here. Or report your more surreal episodes of being booted for misbehaving.

thanks for fixing

I kept getting a message about scripts being wrong, and there was I thinking that the chat-room was spontaneous. Is there something we should know?

no...

just more software silliness. Please carry on...

excuse my broken english and.....

After being booted out of the chat about 10 times just because, by people who know how to use the open code. i was insulted just like so many times before in this thing called grateful dead chat. This time by three tenageers, i think, who did beguin the conversation talkin about his drunk mother while making jokes about my name. Even, i think, they used the open code, to suit the chat at their convenience. I really cant believe why this can happen, dont talkin about the insults (the daily planet), i mean why you, the dead.net people let this things to happen. And of course, im ready to get more bullshit, just for this. Shame on me for being part of this and shame on you for let this things happen.

Hey bakalot

I was booted out too lots of times for misbehavin and I didn't do anything......anyway most of us here are really grate people :) just remember mean people suck, ignore them... Peace, Gigi *~****~* Have a Grate Day*~*****~*

Yes,Ignore them!

What Gigi said! A really grate and special place overall! Don't let a few sharp rocks stop you from walking on the beach!! peace,pk

Current chat instability

First off, I have no official relationship with this site other than as Just Another User. However, I am a software developer by trade and have offered this site's developers constructive feedback where I can, and where and when appropriate I do hear back from them as well. From that, I do know that there are efforts currently underway to improve the general stability and user experience on the site. And like most periods of transition, there are occasional hiccups. I'm relatively certain that the current chat issues are being caused by that, rather than by some user compromising the security of their their server platform. Understanding the code that they are using and being able to affect the code that they are using are two very different things. I'm sure they will get the current chat issues sorted forthwith. Just like I'm sure, bakalot, that you now realize that the usage of derogatory and insulting racial epithets on this site is not likely to be viewed as appropriate by the community here. Personally, I value the diversity of opinions and perspectives found on this site. I don't agree with all of them, and I'm also equally certain that there are others here who've seen more than enough from Mr. Pid as well. And that's fine, that's the way the wold works. We don't necessarily all need to like each other, but we should try to respect each other. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Mr. Pid

Fine job Stu. Absolutely beautiful, elegant, and thorough.

instability

Once i just used the wrong word. I exclaimed something like, 'ohh what a song wrote that ******'. I dont see why, my mistake. My Fault. Chat instability, no shop instability, i was thinking about to make my first purchase here, and ..... im sure there is no instability in the shop....And know i head for the beach ignoring mean people to enjoy this brand new day under the sun. All good things in all good time.

hey bakalot

Sorry for the bad experience. As people have said, we're not like that here. Nicely said, Mr. P. Folks, are we having technical difficulties, or were there some problem people in the chat room?

Chatroom is crazy

everyone is coming in and out in and out...very strange place to be tonight.......the ghosts are at it again beware........oooooooooooooooo

I'll tell Jonathan

things are strange again. Thanks!

the spirts abound

hey now, the chat room is gone, gone , gone!!hmmm? o well, HAPPY BIRTHDAY JERRY!!!

Chatroom is working

fine right now!! Just had a chat!!

how bout now?

too cool , i see the wheel has revolved again, new stuff and on Jerry's birthday!! did you plan it this way, jonathan and marye? can't wait too chat again, peace....what! oh yeah... HAPPY BIRTHDAY JER!!!

so the chatroom's back?

cool. I don't know whether the server transition was PLANNED for Jerry's birthday, but clearly it was an auspicious day to do it.

I spoke too soon

chatroom is still offline due to the server move, but it'll be back!

gonna get stranger

And I can't stop wonderingJust what you got Get the feeling I'm gonna find out real soon.... but for now you are temporary offline : ( and it's seems as i'm having to log in twice, the second time i actually have to type in! then if i do check on the chat and go back to recent posts via the side option on site page i'm no longer logged and have to go back using the back button on safari or firefox. Well you know it's gonna get stranger So let's get on with the show

i have the strange feeling..

(if i can read...) that the chat is off-line at least a week.there might be some doors who not everybody knows!!!!!!!!!!but regulary its offline pretty long:-( Frankly

is this thing on?

oh look, this works, even if the chat don't! did i miss the email saying the server was going to move and the site would be screwed up for a while? oh well, wheel keeps turning...now the question is do we know when we are hoping to be operational again(realisticly)??peacenlove2all tc

hi 73

I haven't heard a status report for a while but I assure you folks are working on it seriously. Sorry for all the trouble.

OK, intrepid travelers...

Jonathan, who is always looking out for us, has found some alternative chatroom software that he thinks might work a bit better. So, in that fine dead.net spirit, we need brave souls to to check it out and see how well it works in real life. If this sounds like you, head over to http://www.dead.net/testchat and chat on!

Won't work for me :(

I logged in and was gratefulmom dupe... hehe, then I logged out and bac in and I was a guest, now I can't get in it says chatroom window is already open, but I closed it I swear!

slow

things are moving really slow. sometimes pages wont open, unavailable. chatroom is faster but like gratefulmom said, strange stuff going on.

new chatroom

no problem apart from nobody there - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

Hey Marye...

New chatroom worked for me today :) but I was alone :(

Hi Mary

nobody else there but all seems to work fine Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

thanks much

that's been my experience pretty much also. Keep them reports coming!

new chatroom?

maybe i'm just not allowed. i've tried to get in several times and it always says "offline".

test chat link

http://www.dead.net/testchat

dead.net

been tellin me all night that this room is not avaliable this is the first time ive been able to get in all night(been this way with all forums ive tried ti enter)

thanks

we THINK this may be fixed now, but if not speak up!

still just me

oh dear my timing must be awry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam

fixed?

What is going on with the chatroom? Is it going to be reignited? Is it dead for good? What???

http://www.dead.net/testchat

http://www.dead.net/testchat , timmy go here

Okay...

the chat room should now be accessible through the convenient link on the left. It is running the new software. Please report any issues, and chat on!

heads up folks

Regarding the chat room: when the new version went live, we discovered that people can access the chat room without being logged on to Dead.net. As it usually does, this led to some problems, mainly with drive-by types who came in and posted nasty stuff and vanished. We thought we had that security hole plugged, as it were, but I'm hearing more reports of strange posts from people no one knows, and I've just had a really alarming PM from one of the ladies here who was in the chatroom, ran into a person with a perfectly legit-sounding name, and was invited to a private chat by said person. No sooner did she get there than he commenced some fairly vile sexual harassment. Following up, I find we have no such user. Of COURSE. I have sent up an emergency flare in Jonathan's direction. But meanwhile, we encourage you to exercise some street smarts in the chat room. In particular, do not go into private chats with people you do not know well. Hang out with them in the public chat room to get a sense of who they are. I'll keep you posted on the technical side, but meanwhile, watch each card etc. Thank you. ME with the mod hat on

Thanks for the heads up

marye. There ARE some real oddballs showing up now-people blabbering nonsense and hit-and-run insults. And now at least one instance of harrassment-OY! Am sure the 99.9999% lovely folk here will stick together and beware.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

im confused

theres more then one chat room?must i be invited? wow am i out of the loop! Peace, The Kid

I defer to those who spend more time there on that one

but in the meantime, Jonathan says he has changed some settings and things should be more secure. PLEASE report any problems. Thanks!

reason I`m not there

Some folks are probobley wondering where I am , he`s not in the chat room , maybe he does`nt want to be part of our comunity .. well that is not true , the letters are too small for me ,, even when i change the font they are still too small and it hurts my eye`s .. so that is why I am not there .. I do want to remain part of the comunity , I enjoy it here .. for the most part .. the vine thing has got me frustrated ,, but i do enjoy being here !! well with that said ,, I hope everyone has a wonderful day !! Peace .... Stu .....

stuman

I'll pass this to Jonathan--who knows, maybe it's fixable.

Universal Access...

... is what it's called in a Mac, I guess there's an equivalent feature in a PC machine. Anyway, it allows the user to zoom in to make the text bigger. I use it in the chat room, makes it a lot easier to read that tiny font they use there. HTH

Hey Stu!

You are one of the rocks on the vines! You gotta hang in there, miss seeing your early am posts. Knew something was up. Hang in there, like the acrobatic cat you are! Miss ya stu.peace,pk ps. oroboros's latest '77 and the neil vine will be worth the wait! We will try and keep that train rolling down the track, just don't want to do the he's gone part.

Hey Buddy ,Marey , Pk

Thank you !! Buddy you know I was wondering what that little button was for ,, well now i feel kinda dumb ,,.. you know us older guy`s and this is my first computer ,,..And with that minor dificulty solved you all can expect to see me in the chat room ... Thank you again Buddy ,, thank you Marey ,no need to bother Jonathan ,, and thank you PK .... will talk to you all later ... Peace and sweet dreams !! Stu ....

William Blke quote

Hello Hal, New here, Confused maybe its your signature or something, just passing through this site: But isn't that a quote from Aldous Huxley? I remember it from the Doors of Perception, in the preface? Don't have the book, its been like 20 plus years, but I didn't think it was Blake? I thought it was Huxley. My head hurts.............

text message number

does anyone have the number to get text messages regarding the latest information on the Band. thanks yuletime

if you go to home page

there is a sign-up for emails....might cover that

know your rights, brothers and sisters!

Be careful out there and know your rights. Here is a youtube video on your legal rights and search and seizure. Don't want to see too many people out there get into unnecessary trouble during the tour: http://stopthedrugwar.org/videos/busted now go have fun at the shows!

what is the "400" on the 09 tour t-shirt?

I have a question?!!We went to the Albany show April 17th. We got t-shirts from inside. My boyfriend got the blue tie-die (skeleton in car...i think) On the back is the list of tour stops. at the bottom is a triple rose pyramid if you will, inside is the number "400". Does anyone know what this means? It is driving us batty!!! *~Peace & Love*~

it's driving a lot of people batty

I have no good answer either!