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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
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    Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
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    Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
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    if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
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    FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
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    Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
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    glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
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    Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
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    Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices
    I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
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    I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 07:09

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Some shows still up for grabs from my 30 trips box. Just PM me if you want to call dibs. Years available: 1976 1978 1980 1981 1983 1985 1986 1988 1993 Cheers
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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 08:19

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I too didn't 5 ink it was a bad song. At that time I was doing a lot of touring and it did get old. Seemed like they played it every other show
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Submitted by mustin321 on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 09:21

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I'm not sure what I'd think about the song if I didn't know the back story.But knowing the backstory definitely makes the song more interesting. I think its a semi-catchy tune but JG always seemed to mumble the lyrics on this one, so I'm not sure if I've ever heard a great version.
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Submitted by wadeocu on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 09:43

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"God bless the child that's got his own stash, a 9 to 5 and a place to crash!" Clash of cultures indeed!
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Submitted by MLavallee on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 10:21

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I'd heard that it was dropped due to popular demand. Also rad they dropped Money Money due to fans' request.
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 10:41

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I always thought this could have been a good JGB song with the gospel style treatment with Gloria Jones and Jaclyn LaBranch handling the bg vocals.
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 11:28

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I could have sworn this was a Barry Manilow song, no?
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Submitted by dantian on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 12:43

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To be honest, I'm much less familiar with the first set, can't even remember last time I listened to it. You'll have to fill us in! But the Crazy Fingers thru Franklin's is top notch...and I always go back to it.
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Submitted by hbob1995 on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 12:57

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The band came under a lot of criticism for this song. Many Heads thought the band was being snide and taking a shot at them personally. Jerry has said that was not the intent at all. The band just trying to send a cautionary message to the fans. I mean, how many people after attending a great show, or a great movie, or a great game, say to themselves "I think I will try to do that for a living". While that may happen, the odds are pretty slim, and the band truly meant to warn folks not to give up their first income until they were sure the new endeavor was going to pay off. Rock on
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Submitted by KeithFan2112 on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 13:39

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I was totally right on this one, it WAS Barry Manilow. Singing to the world Its time we let the spirit come in Let it come on in I'm singing to the world Everybody's caught in the spin Look at where we've been We've been running around Year after year Blinded it with pride Blinded it with fear But it's your Day Job If you wanna' to believe It can be Day Job Ain't no time to grieve Say its your Day Job If you 'll only believe And let it Shine, Shine, Shine... all around the world!
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:55

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EDIT:
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 20:52

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....not my favorite encore by a county mile. Keith passed 35 years ago (?) today, Brent's last show was 25 years ago (?) today, and it's my son's 14th birthday today...a bitter and sweet day in my history....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 07/23/2015 - 21:20

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Good excuse to pivot from the bitter to the sweet. ..and with that, "Without a Warning..." (Go Pig)
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Submitted by AVAEMMA on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 09:49

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I read one of your prev post you were interested in selling 10 shows from 79' to 95' from your box set.I'm a 80's fan I would like to buy the shows from 79' Cape to 89' Miami. I saw you wanted a copy of the 78 Tennessee show, I have that coming and almost all DIck's and Dave's picks, bonus disk's and live Garcia's if you need..
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Submitted by fourwindsblow on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 01:53

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Have spoke now shut the fuck up about day job
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Submitted by garciaddicted on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 04:08

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"By now you know the face on your dollar got a thumb on it's nose and a hand on your collar." So true, and never ceases to make me smile.
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Submitted by marye on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 10:15

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I was there for both Hunter's and the band's breakout of the song. While most of the folks in the lovely meadow in Veneta were trying to figure out what this was, I was laughing. because Hunter had done it with much dramatic flourish (10/9/81, Boarding House), and you don't forget something like that. Hell, I can still see it. Veneta also had Dupree's as an encore, which didn't happen that often.
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Submitted by philledawg on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 10:23

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Either...time to go to 'the head', grab a drink, exit the show.........Oh No! ;)
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 11:45

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They are paving and widening some of the roads in my small town. I can only assume they needed to do this to accommodate the wide-load truck that is about to drop Boxzilla on my porch in 5 weeks. ..yet another example of how the 50th Aniv. of the dead is adding to the GDP. Looking at historical data, there's almost a perfect correlation between giant GD Box Sets and the strengthening of the US dollar.
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Submitted by here today gon… on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 12:49

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1995 - 1966Although I'll be tempted to go straight for several select years, I've decided I am going to start at the end of their career and proceed backwards in time. A sampling once through anyhow. It will be fun to try this. I am looking forward to cheating though.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 13:16

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Great idea.. I wish I could read books that way, every book about the dead starts kick ass but by the time it ends, I feel like I've been living vicariously through they eyes of a stone cold junkie for the last six chapters. The Benjamin Button listening method :D
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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 14:21

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Actually, since CD's are driven by supply and demand consider this: Only 6,500 of each of these shows is issued vs the 16,500 Dave's Picks. And many of the 30 trips boxes will stay complete boxes. So the actual number of individually circulating shows in the 30 Trips will be be maybe 1/4 of the availability of Dave's Picks releases. I would imagine the strategy of buying the box and keeping what you really want while selling the others to defray the cost is a good strategy - I have to believe there will be at least good demand for all the individual shows. I mean, the bonus discs seem to be in very high demand on eBay (even among contributors on this board) because of their scarcity, and there are only 1/2 as many of each individual 30 trips show as there are Dave's Picks bonus discs! SO they're issuing 30 shows that will be much scarcer than any bonus disc - for $28/show. I'm baffled it isn't sold out already. Sorry, I don't mean to make it sound commercial - I don't buy or sell discs on eBay - I just buy and hold every GDM/Rhino release for the last 20 years. But it will be interesting to see the values ascribed to the individual releases.
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Submitted by snafu on Fri, 07/24/2015 - 15:44

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Q:What's the worst way to get a cantankerous go your own way group like Deadheads not to follow your demands A: Tell them to stop. Sorry VGuy ( not really) Day Job Day Job Day Job
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Submitted by dantian on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 00:28

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Especially anxious to hear Lindley Meadows. I hope they kept all the stage banter in, like, "Is there a doctor in the house? There's a woman backstage, and she's having a baby..." then Jerry starts to noodle Happy Birthday. Love the feel of this show. There's just something very special about it. Also Greek '68 been in my collection for some time, and can't wait to hear the upgrade. Great show. Dijon '74 as well. Someone on these very boards (I want to say rrot, hope I got that right) mentioned more than a year ago how great the UJB opener is, and boy was he right, best UJB I've ever heard. The '72 and '73 shows I'm not familiar with, and I'm resisting the temptation to preview them, but hey, they're '72 and '73, and you know I'll be down for that ;) Same for the '76 and '77, and really all the pre-'79 shows (not to offend anyone, that's just my zone), can't wait to explore these shows. Christmas in September. Boy, are we some lucky bastages to have such great music headed our way. - Disclaimer: Just the late night ramblings of a half-drunken fool.
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Submitted by dantian on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 00:39

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Listening to 4/23/69 The Ark, just now. After the opening tune, "He Was A Friend Of Mine," someone must have called out "Morning Dew!" Jerry says, "No. Fuck You." Phil: "You've got to stick around to hear Morning Dew." Jerry: "Right, 'til morning." Phil: "Hahaha"
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Submitted by rdevil on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 01:22

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Right on, Dantian! I mentioned in the other thread that I think the '75 show is possibly the most wanted in this box, at the very least it's near the top. Thanks for reaching out to me when this was announced. You inspired me to "pull myself up by my bootstraps" and find a way to afford this. Or maybe a more accurate way to say it is you inspired me to negotiate a plan with my wonderful wife. Like you I'm particularly excited about the pre-79 shows but I'm also looking forward to the rest of the box, especially '79, '82 and '87. I have no complaints about the show selection in this box. In fact, it's so good I'm spending way more than I should on CDs. There are a few things I would have done different, but that's not a complaint, just personal preference. I would have preferred the '71 show to be from late in the year with Keith. But I read something about Jerry playing a unique guitar in the '71 show. I'm looking forward to hearing what Dave liked about this show. I know 10-26-89 is a monster show for that era but I would have preferred something from summer, before the MIDI became such a big thing. And I don't dispute the merits of 9-10-91 but I'd rather hear the band without a special guest sitting in all night and there are some great shows from that fall tour. Minor quibbles for sure. Looking forward to DaP15 to bridge the gap. And then...September--months of sleeping on the couch in front of the stereo.
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Submitted by DaveStrang on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 01:29

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What are the Top 5 shows for you? 3/18/71 11/14/73 10/3/76 5/16/81 6/24/85 For the 2nd set alone!
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Submitted by claney on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 10:10

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Hey there Dantian - you asked for my thoughts on the first set of 6/14/76. Here you go, ready or not. I used this version - a better sounding SBD than my old CDR:https://archive.org/details/gd1976-06-14.sbd.orf.240.shnf A tale of two sets (EDIT - "two halves of the first set") really - the first half is perfect, the second half flags: Cold Rain - There is not one version of this song I don't like, or find something interesting about. Also my favorite opener. This version is top tier - especially much better sung than this song generally was. Mama Tried - if you usually skip this one, don't. Row Jimmy - A case-study for the way Jerry could alter his vocal phrasing drastically, but always keep it tasteful. He clips the words in weird ways that fit this slightly more staccato version; or listen to how he sings "let the two time roll" - he stretches out the "two" in a lovely, trippy way - "twoooowoooo." As with the entire first half of this set, every single member of the band is perfectly dialed in. (The mix really let's you isolate each one) Cassidy - Rumbling Phil-led version. Donna is experimenting with phrasing too - the theme of this show: Listen, around 1:25, to her harmony on "blow the horn" - low LOW harmony, in perfect tune, stunning and unique. Followed a moment later by an outburst of pure joy - "whooo!" Not much of a jam in this one, but again, you can't single out any one player - everyone is JUST EXACTLY PERFECT. Brown Eyed Women - Here it is Jerry's guitar and vocal phrasing that is being monkeyed with. I don't have the vocabulary to describe the way he plays this, it just has to be heard. But vocally, he does things like "only I turned BAYad" and he leaves words off the end of lines - e.g., "drink to the dregs of the whiskey..." and "didn't get the lickin's that the other one..." A SLIGHTLY TIRED SECOND_HALF-----=--- Big River - Energy starts to flag here. A song that is almost always roaring with energy, but this version leaves me flat. Anytime Keith solos more than Jerry on Big River, there's a problem (no offense to Keith, but that's not what I go to the Big River for). Might as Well - About like the other version of this song. Not a song I care about all that much, but this does have some very cool and clear cymbal work (from Billy?) in the first minute. The nuances of the cymbals are very clear throughout this recording. Lazy > Supplication - Solid version, very slow transition, almost a dead-stop. Again, something happened after BEW to slow these dudes down... (nice, almost Wolfish-sounding solo from Jerry). T-Jed - Whoah, talk about things slowing down. Holy crap this is a weird version. We're talking Row Jimmy pace. Even has a reggae-esque lilt. Jerry has a lot of fun on this one, digging down low in the register (think of his solo on TLEO on Dick's Picks 10). Is this song suited to this tempo? Nope. Is it nice to have this extremely different version? Absolutely. I like this one. Playin - Average '76 version, which is to say, pillowy meandering goodness, with some spacy stuff in the middle. Unusually pleasant and low-key Donna wails.
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Submitted by Cactus_Jack on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 08:18

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Thin, Out of the post hiatus shows I am selling, I can tell you that I've had the most requests for the 1984 show. Also interesting, the first shows to go on my list were the 90's shows (except 93). I am sure the prices of individual shows from this box will skyrocket & considering what dave's picks go for after they sell out, $50 a show is pretty reasonable. I'm not really price gauging here just giving some folks an opportunity at the shows they want at a fraction of the cost. I may even hock the gold 45 from my box, cuz i'm really only interested in a few shows myself. Here's what is left at $50 a show: 1976 1978 1980 1981 1985 1993 PM me if you're interested
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Submitted by Bach 2 Bach on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 08:19

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Working backward from 1995 to 1965 is precisely my plan of attack for storming the beaches of Boxzilla as well. And here's hoping that 7.2.88 is offered up as a DaP in the not-too-distant future.
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Submitted by Dennis on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 09:56

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Anyone else in the Dallas area going to the Granada to see Forgotten Space for Jerry's Birthday show on the first? If you don't know these guy are a tribute band (I don't like that name for these guy), they're pretty damn good, you can hear their shows on the archive. But every year they have a Jerry Birthday show. Granada is a small venue in Dallas,,, should be good. Tixs were "cheap" in todays world, 25 bucks a head.
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Submitted by dantian on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 11:55

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Thanks for thorough review. I will have to go back and revisit it, keeping your insights in mind. What about the second set portion I raved about, the Crazy Fingers thru Franklin's Tower. To your ears, did it match up to my hyperbole? You know, I can get a little carried away at times listening to this stuff ;) @Rdevil, right back at ya, brother.
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Submitted by claney on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 12:56

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dantian, my memory of that second set is, yes it does match up to your praise. But I'll have to give it a serious listen as soon as time allows... Which will be a pleasure, no doubt. They must have "rejuvenated" during the set break.
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Submitted by nitecat on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 17:23

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I am also excited about the megabox. I foresee many many hours of enjoyment discovering all these shows, since I haven't listened to many of them. I've really been enjoying the Europe box, I'm up to the Bickershaw Festival, which is a hum dinger! What a strong tour! Day Job seemed to me when I saw it live to be a simple ditty, nothing too serious. Strange chorus. Not surprised it didn't last long in rotation. Shortest rotation probably goes to Money Money, only a few performances. Strange song. I saw it live in Portland in '74, and I'll never forget Donna belting out "MONEY-MONEY!" Listening the Playin' from 6/14/76, pretty nice...
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 17:42

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Had a girls day out to the Jersey Shore with our 2 girls PLUS 4 nieces, her sister, my sister & 4 other female friends just so I can get everything done around the house, I painted BOTH kids rooms, installed ceiling fans in ALL 3 rooms, installed an AC unit in our younger kids room, also installed 3 way switches in each room, & put in a new headlight, changed the oil & replaced the front brake pads on my car it is 8:09 here in Philly a very long but productive day I shouldn't get a honey do list until early Fall. I listened to a lot of Dead ALL DAY, however I listened to 1 show twice just because it is the most AMAZING show of the entire Brent Era, IMHO & that show is 10/27/79, I to this day still listen to this show on a Maxell cassette as I feel it's the BEST recording I have of it I have 6 different CDR's of this show however the SBD cassette that I have of it is still the BEST quality of any of the versions I downloaded from the IA, the question I have "is this show a Betty Board", it has the sound quality of one hers however I don't think she recorded the Fall 1979 shows, PLEASE send HELP on the WAY, for some reason my inquiring mind would like to know. Here is the list of the shows I listened to today ALL official releases with the exception of 10/27/79; DP 16, 11/8/69, Simply STELLAR DP 03, 5/22/77, INSPIRATION MOVE ME BRIGHTLY DP 13, 5/6/81, He's Gone For Bobby Sands, the most inspired jamming of the 80's IMO DP 36, 9/21/72 My FAVORITE "official" release EVER Dave's Picks Volume 1, 5/25/77 Spring 1977 need I say more? I think NOT RSD Black Friday,2014, 11/17/72 Set II just because it SOLD OUT & it is AMAZING 10/27/79 Set I & II SBD Cassette 2x So the wife and kids are on the way home & the wife said she's bringing home dinner, no doubt ALL of us will be tired but one thing is for sure we ALL will be HAPPY the wife will be happy that everything is done, the kids will be happy because they had a GREAT day at the beach & I am happy because everything I set out to accomplish has indeed been accomplished, so DEADLAND HAVE ONE MORE (HAPPY) SATURDAY NIGHT
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Submitted by wissinomingdeadhead on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 18:59

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my own question, Dan Healy recorded the Fall '79 tour & it seems he was Chief Recorder ALL through the 80's. I'd like to listen RT 1.1 Fall 1979, however I don't think I'd make it past disc one as WE are ALL quite tired, WE BID YOU GOODNIGHT, DEADLAND!!!!
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Submitted by Dusty.rambler@… on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 22:57

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I can't wait for this box! But how to digest it? A question asked many times in this thread. I'm thinking 30 trips in 30 weeks straining from 1966. I would really like to review and discuss each show, each week with fellow deadheads. Any input on the best forum for this? A blogspot or a Facebook group? Is anyone else thinking of a similar strategy? Thought and input would be muck appreciated. Edit: much appreciated... But my typo reminded me of a great Hunter S. Thompson quote.... "It's hard to get a footing in all of this muck...
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Submitted by 4evergr8ful on Sat, 07/25/2015 - 23:40

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with over 70 hours of music, millions of dollars in fans orders invested and less than 8 weeks till launch ..how bout a new listening party and weren't they going to reveal more about this box? packaging, design, etc..?
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Submitted by drsox on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 00:23

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I'm also going to be selling the shows in my box set individually, but I'm in Europe so that will give folks here a chance to get the ones they want. Depending on the import duties, the sets will be probably at € 60 each plus posting. (Yes, that's Euros). Send me a PM and I'll reserve the year and confirm price and postage in September. Cheers.
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Submitted by bliss on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 11:09

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Loving the listening ideas. Had never considered going back in time, which will perhaps be my 2nd wave listen. For the first, I'm hoping the box arrives with enough time left in the Canadian autumn that I can listen to each show over 30 days of fall-weather cycling. The two things that will make this difficult will be potential inclement weather and the onset of early winter in these parts (BC interior), and the sheer toll it'll take on my middle aged body to get back on the bike every day - esp. after some of those marathon early 70s efforts. This box is exciting. Kudos to those bringing it to us. Unbelievable that in an era of declining record sales, the autumn days of physical media for music, the Dead buck industry convention yet again by releasing a set of this magnitude. Love it.
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Submitted by sawyerfamilyaz on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 11:49

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Love the idea of a forum/facebook page/something to discuss the 30 trips shows. Plan to start at 1966 and go forward. Liked the idea of going backwards but want to get the full effect of songs entering and leaving the rotation as the years go by.
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Submitted by Deadicated on Sun, 07/26/2015 - 13:58

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BoxZilla arrives by the 24th, you could start with 9/24/72 followed by 9/28/75, etc. There'd be a few action packed days - 10/27, 9/18 & 7/03 - but what better way to have it?! Organized chaos at its finest!
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