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    Happy Thanksgiving
    Went to a "gratitude meeting" last night. Never been to one before....heck, never heard of such a thing until a week ago. Everyone in the room got to get up and say what you're grateful for !! It was way cool to hear everybody share. Music question ! Was there ever a studio version of "Bird Song" recorded ? I've tried to research this and get nowhere, but I swear I heard a very slow, quiet version on the GDC about a month ago. I sent them an e-mail, but no response. They're probably overwhelmed with e-mails. Maybe it was just Jerry ? Any help would be appreciated. Haven't been to a show in a LONG time-probably Deer Creek Amphitheater, Indy, back around '89-'90. (or was the Louisville, KY show after that ?) I dunno !! How are Phil, Bob, Mickey, etc sounding these days ? Jeez, I see groups like Aerosmith and The Stones and Tom Petty performing at Superbowls, and I think "Jeez, hang it up ! You can't SING anymore !!!" So, I can't help wondering how the individual members of the Dead are sounding. Alright then..... Take care everyone !
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    Hey Tom and Hoss
    GRATE to see you you here! Maybe we can meet up at one the Darkstar shows in Feb.Anyway glad weir here, Happy Thanksgiving we have a lot to be grateful for!peace, love and recovery, lefty
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    hey tom, welcome home!
    hey tom, welcome home! turns out Weir everywhere, even OH. i'm in canton myself. good ta have ya here!
  • goindowntheroad
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    WOW !! I'm home !!
    What a day ! I'm brand new here. Tom from Marion,Ohio, and just heard a lead from a nice lady at an AA meeting, and she turned me on to you guys.Little over 8 months sober and still clinging to the music.(listening to a show on the Grateful Dead Channel as I type). I told her after she got done speaking...."I thought I was the only sober Dead-Head on the planet". Look forward to reading lots of cool posts ! Hi Jodi !!! : )
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    Way to go Hippiechickmom!
    It sounds like your doing great! Congratulations, I hope you find peace and love where ever you go. Keep com'in back. : ) Robert
  • hippiechickmom
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    such a happy hippie!!
    I was so afraid that giving up drugs and alcohol would mean I would have to give up what I love the most and that is the Dead and my music-ha-little did I know that everything is so much cooler now and that I can enjoy it ten times more-and I can even begin to remember some stuff-what a wonderful opportunity to start again and do it right this time-thank god I can be a sober hippie-life is soooo good!!!Love & Light!!!!
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    Hey Mom!
    Welcome to recovery! I've been clean a little over 2 years now and listen to more Dead than I ever have. There are so many great shows available through the interenet now. I've come to really appreciate what great musicians these guys were/are. Much more than just the backdrop to a great trip. Peace, Richard
  • hippiechickmom
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    thankx
    so glad 2 b here-cant go to pa because i am going to an aa retreat and just started a new awesome job that i cant miss during the week....i may go to phil sometime-maybe nov. 8??? ttyguyss!!! so much love and light...
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    hey hippiechickmom
    Welcome and congratulations on 7 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE EVERYWHERE. I see there are a bunch of Ratdog shows in PA soon. That might be a great place to start. Is anyone out there doing a table at any of these?If so , there you go! Anyway glad you found us and you sound like you are definately in the right place.Hang in there!Peace, Love and Recovery, lefty
  • hippiechickmom
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    oh yah...
    ha ha-still too new to have recovered all those brain cells-i am currently 7 months sober and loving it! I love the Grateful Dead sooo much and was so afraid I would have to let go of that part of my life due to the drugs and alcohol involved-thank God for wharf rats and aa-I can finally learn who me really is and still keep my music!! LIFES GOOD
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Pauly were you at the Spectrum when they boys did the 1st Unbroken Chain? I was at the Wharf Rat meeting between sets what a great night! Hopefully I will get to Chicago. Amen to Divine intervention, I thank God everyday. I love you but Jesus loves you the best and I bid you goodnight..........
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Hey Mike,I have no idea if I was at the 1st Unbroken Chain in Philly, to be honest with you! I was living in Pa in the early '80's. from about 1980 through 1985. We used to go to the Spectrum all the time back then.(Still using back then)A bit of a blur...I do remember Barney the Dinosaur playing bass at one of those shows! Best of luck finding a ticket to Chicago! Pauly
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hey, any westy campers camping in the area on the coast before the shows want to meet up and sing around the camp fire? let us know-del bear
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I'm trying to get sober, but I'm sacred. Can I still love the GD? Please help.
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Hey CW....First thing I noticed that you joined the site in 2010...whatta ya been doing for the past 4 and a half years if your trying to get sober now?? The first thing I did to get sober: Change People, Places and Things!! You gotta lose all your "using friends" start hanging out with positive, healthy, sober people. Try that for starters and get to a meeting!!
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"a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment." Look for the yellow ballons and meetings are at set break. You don't have to be perfect. Just take it one show at a time (~);-)
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The Wharf Rats are a group of concert-goers who have chosen to live drug and alcohol free. Our primary purpose at the shows is to make ourselves available to anyone who feels we may have something they want. We offer support, strength, fellowship and hope. Look for the yellow balloons, signs and the Wharf Rats information table. We are not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous nor any other twelve-step group. We are a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment. The Wharf Rats began during the 1980s as a group of Deadheads under the name "The Wharf Rat Group of Alcoholics Anonymous". The Wharf Rats originally came from a small group of Narcotics Anonymous members who went to a Grateful Dead concert in Philadelphia and located each other by their Yellow balloons with the NA symbol drawn on in Magic Marker. However due to operational differences they soon split off from Alcoholics Anonymous, and are not affiliated with them, NA, or any other twelve-step program, though many of members of the Wharf Rats are members of AA, NA or other 12 step programs. The Wharf Rats see themselves as "a group of friends sharing a common bond, providing support, information and some traction in an otherwise slippery environment." The unusual name of this group comes from the Grateful Dead song "Wharf Rat", which contains the self-told story of August West, a down-and-out dockside wino.
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I am a lone drunk. I agree with you though.
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At both both Chicago and Santa Clara. Look for the yellow ballons or bring one and you will be found. Maybe a meeting on Friday afternoon or night at a Park near the Stadium SC.
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Going to SC 6/27, and a bit nervous that I will be the only one around me not using. I'm younger than most of you folks from what I have gathered, as I only got into the Dead as a high schooler in the early 90's, and have followed mostly by trading music and watching as a bit of an "outsider". Saw Phil a few times. Loved the music and people were kind. But I always felt out of place since it seemed like I was the only one not smoking, dosing or drinking that wine. (Never used. Seen too much life wasted to be attracted to any of it. That, and my relationship with God, the real influence, would be so scrambled up if I was under the other influence.) Would like to find the yellow balloons during set break and say how do you do. Plus, I'll need the reassurance that there are more like me out there. Real name's Eric. I'll see you there!
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Santa Clara: Where can I find the Wharf Rats at the show? The Wharf Rats will have a table near the Participation Row area, on the main concourse close to the Intel Gate A. _____________________________________________________________________ Chicago.. Where can I find the Wharf Rats at the show? The Wharf Rats will have a table near the Participation Row area, in the South Courtyard inside the South Gates, near Gate 0.
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Looking forward to Chicago Fare Thee Well! When are the meetings?
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You will not be alone at all! morning drew meetings at set break. Read above. Look for the yellow balloons or better yet have one on shake down to meet other Rats
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Good morning, I'm looking for information on where to post an invitation. There are probably more than a few people rolling down the road right now looking for a place to pitch a tent, park a bus, an RV or a car while en route to Chicago. We are on a patch of ground in Nor'western Illinois and have some room if folks need a place to stop for a few or overnight. The gate is open; we don't want anything in return (AKA - free). If there are any takers, we will rent a porta-pot. All we ask is that anyone stopping/staying treat the place with respect. Please let me know when you have a chance, Thanks, J and T
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Very nice, and thanks for hopping on the Sunshine Daydreamer bus.... Looking forward to meet up in Chicago....hope you get miracled...
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I noticed the Wharf Rats table getting plenty of visitors in Santa Clara. Hope you have a great group in Chicago!
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HelloI will be alone at the Chi town concert 7/3 in the Pit and I wanted to know where to find the WharfRat group table to meet up for a hello. Any ideas? yellow balloons? Thanks
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I defer to those who will actually be there, but I think the Wharf Rats will have a table next to Participation Row where the various charities are.
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Look back in the thread maybe 2 weeks ago a parking lot location and yes yellow balloons....enjoy the journey .....I have...
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We have come along way from being a bunch of strung out junkies touring for a living to being sober members of society . That care enough about each other to post were we are wear we will be and so on. Have fun everybody again is the day before Christmas for many. Enjoy this long awaited weekend.
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Well said, Sir John....just like the day before Christmas
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Greetings lovely Wharf Rats, I just joined the forum. I am based in the Denver area. Very early in my recovery from alcoholism. Got 2 months sober last summer otherwise it's been a struggle to even get a week. I am getting help now from a therapists and group. Any Wharf Rats in the area that can recommend a meeting or support group? I have tried AA several times, I guess I just haven't found my home group yet. I find the age gap tough for me as I am only 26. Anybody else not like AA at first? I am willing to try again, but if anybody knows of a meeting that is especially awesome let me know! Thanks for this forum and recognizing the need within the music scene. I can only hope as I get furthur along in my recovery I can help others struggling with addiction. We are such a conscious and spiritual group of people I feel the poisons out there are holding many back from reaching full potential. Including myself. Love you all Unbroken Heart
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Many of the people I know did not like AA at first. Stick with it is the 1 program I know of that accepts us no matter how we are there are no clicks it might seem like your to young yet it will stick I believe in you. Your life is going to get so much better beyond your wildest dreams trust the process Good luck and write me any time you want john
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IDK if the other recovery programs have them but I have seen it in 12 step groups like all walks of life. Can be good to listen to some elders. Denver is big and maybe there is a recreational 12 step club to go to. I would research your options rather than try something that is not working for you after you have given it a chance.
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Good morning rockers!!!! As many of you may or may not know, I am a bit of a “1971 Dead fanatic”. I have taken on a slightly ambitious project, documenting all 1971 Dead shows, the end result of which I hope will combine numerous “facts/factoids” about shows with recollections of folks who actually attended Dead shows in 1971. In order to accomplish this, I need the help of the Dead fan community. ALL contributions will be properly and specifically credited. If you attended ANY shows in 1971 and have ANY recollections to share, PLEASE consider participating. Please PM me for details. While of course I’m happy to hear from anybody who attended “classic 71 shows” such as Port Chester, Fillmore East, Harding Theater, Felt Forum, etc., I’m particularly interested in hearing from folks who may have attended lesser known, “out of the way” shows, such as: 1/21/71 Davis 1/22/71 Lane Community College 3/5/71 Oakland 4/14/71 Bucknell 4/18/71 Cortland 6/21/71 Chateau d’Herouville 8/4/71 Terminal Island 10/19/71 Northrop Auditorium 11/11/71 Atlanta 11/17/71 Albuquerque In addition, if ANYBODY out there has “paper ephemera” related to 1971 shows, Please consider participating. I’m looking especially for: Newspaper/print media articles Show posters/handbills Ticket stubs Photographs Thanks in advance to all who participate and contribute! Rock on, Doc Gillespie
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ATTENTION ALL WHARF RATS: Tuesday in Atlanta Mom AKA Caroline The original East Coast Table coordinator and Honorary Wharf Rat Queen will be attending the Show. Mom contributions to the Wharf Rat Group are myriad, too numerous to count really. From 1988 until 1994 she tromped up and dow the East Coast doing the Table and making sure it was done right leaving a rather large wake of pure LOVE everywhere she went. She started the newsletter and kept it going for years getting help wherever she could. Bumperstickers, Stickers that you all wear with the one show at a time, so many things about the wharf Rats that we take for granted all credit can be laid at Caroline's feet. She saved the Wharf Rat Table from banishment during a particular episode of very bad behavior by wharf rats who should have known better and I don't know if anyone else could have pulled it off. She doesn't make an appearance very often so if you are in Atlanta come by and give her some Love.
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Excellent article mona, thanks for sharing....
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Hello Wharf Rats. I have met a few of you out and about at shows. I was hoping to hang out with some Wharf Rats in Atlanta this 29th and 30th before and or during the WSP shows at the Fox. My cell is 828 4236588. Please call me if you are going to the shows clean and sober and would like to hang out. Much LOVE!
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about drinking and driving.As you know, some of us have been known to have brushes with the authorities from time to time, often on the way home after a "social session" with family or friends. Well, two days ago, this happened to me. I was out for an evening with friends and had more than several beers followed by a couple of bottles of rather nice red wine and vodka shots. Although relaxed, I still had the common sense to know I was slightly over the limit.That's when I did something I've never done before - I took a taxi home.Sure enough on the way there was a police roadblock, but since it was a taxi they waved it past and I arrived home safely without incident.This was a real surprise to me, because I had never driven a taxi before. I don't know where I got it, and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it..So, anyway, if you want to borrow it give me a call.
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That story ended differently than I expected. My brain is still trying to in vain to find 'the moral of the story'. That said, taxis are nice. I have had good experiences with them myself.
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Hey ya'll...I've been going to gathering of the vibes for the past several years but they've canceled this year's festival. I have two little ones that I take with me and liked gathering b/c it was trunk camping on site with family/sober camping really close to everything. Anyone know of good festivals with trunk camping onsite we can check out this summer? Tx!!
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At 17 I lost a good friend and nice guy Curt who decided not to drink and drive so took a taxi home from a kegger. The taxi was hit by a drunk driver and Curt was instantly killed. His family had a private funeral so all of us "kidz" had no closure. I felt so deeply that something had to be done to at least try and fill the big whole the world will now have without him. I decided then that I would not drink and drive and share Curt's story so others may think twice about it. Wish I could say I never drove drunk but from this it has only been a couple times. I have shared his story for over 3 decades and many ppl all over know Curt like you do now. I get the added benefit of remembering him and I thank you for that. @--}--------
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Hi family , new to this..Just reaching out , Doin the Dead N Company shows n NC and Boston. Just trying to get connected with some folk, first shows going clean and kinda a bit sketch. I recall from way back n the day about "Warf Rats" anyhow won't ramble..Peace
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Welcome! Were you able to connect with some WR? Tough going clean your first go-round but it gets easier.......
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Well technically not Detroit, but Clarkston...... July 7 2016. Trying to get a lot meeting or at least a quick prayer before the show.... Shout it out if you will be there. Shadow boxing the apocalypse, wandering the land....
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Mick, I will be at NC, possibly CLE and INDY, Camden, Saratoga, VA, NY-2 shows, and Alpine Valley 2shows maybe Detriot, PA IN JULY and Maybe Boston as well.I was looking to possibly share some rides and road trip expenses. Clean 15yrs long time head--many shows clean. Get in touch if you want to--clean is the best way to see and hear and dance and experience the full dead show! Hang with me and you won't believe how high it gets brother! Ps: I'm not a warf rat per se, but have and can hang with them a bit if it helps you-- but if you're with me we will not be using anything but feet, eyes, ears, and perhaps some ginseng just to stay ahead of the curve :) 202-439-5418
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This is an extreme long shot but I am looking for a wharf rat who saved my life when I was 18 in 1994. He was 30 named Scott and had dark brown hair, very handsome. He was a lawyer. He was travelling with Dianna. He pulled me out of a fire (i forgot what fire was) and saved my life when I was on a bad lsd trip. I have always thought about him and would love to reconnect and thank him again. It was at the omni atlanta show. Perhaps does anyone who who he is or how I may contact? I last saw him in DC in 95 and always wished I kept in touch. It would mean the world to me. I want to say he was from Philedelphia but honestly cannot remember. He truly was a representative of God. There have not been many people on Earth I remembered like him and he truly saved my life. Thank you- Sarah Pounders sarahauthorillustrator@gmail.com
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Where are the WRs meeting for these last 2 shows of the D&C tour? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Walking in you should see their table. It's all yellow and look for ppl with yellow balloons. There is a good open minded WR group on Facebook you can check before info. Wharf Rats Version 2.0 https://www.facebook.com/groups/173680889383178/ Here is the webpage. We may be sober but we are still hippies. Last update was 2013 and some numbers may not work. Still good info. https://www.facebook.com/groups/173680889383178/ More than My wine more than my maker though he's no friend of mine (-;(~)
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HEY NOW GOOD FRIENDS, I NEED A BIG MIRACLE FROM A FELLOW WHARF RAT!! I NEED A RIDE UP(AND BACK) TO THE CAPITOL THEATRE, PORT CHESTER,NY ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 16,2016. I LIVE IN THE MORRISTOWN, NEW JERSEY AREA. IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT, I WOULD BE ETERNALLY IN YOUR DEBT.PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL OR TEXT ME: 973-462-4930. KEEP FOLLOWING THOSE YELLOW BALLOONS!!MY NAME IS PAUL AND I AM A CLEAN AND SOBER WHARF RAT!PEACE!
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Don't know if I'm a Wharf Rat or not, as I still use cannabis. Spent seven years on Oxy due to a spinal injury. Quit at 240mgs a day ( under medical supervision) sigh. Woke up one morning and told my wife I needed to stop, never took another. 8 years now. Life is good
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Was not a Wharf Rat at my first Dead concert June 1967 in Tompkins Sq Park, NYC but became one May 15, 1975. Not sure if I'm considered a Dead Head since I've only been to around a dozen concerts over the years. Does anyone know if there were/are any recordings of that June 1967 concert?