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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

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July 22, 2014 - 7:43am

#941

floridabobaloo

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MIDI guitar

Back in the day when these things came out, they were seen as a cool new toy. I think it's always been the fact, if you can't play, you can't hide behind effects. But guys like Lee Ritenour took the thing in a new direction. Roland had a better unit in the 90's as well. Beside the sounds there was a delay issue initially with these things. But the idea was clear. Make your guitar sound like a sax, or a trumpet, or Godzilla farting!At the time, I couldn't afford one, and didn't have chops or gigs to justify trying to get one. For me, they have aged poorly. A little sprinkle goes a long way. One artist that did use the Roland unit very well was Joni Mitchell, but she used it to have one guitar that could instantly be retuned. She has like 50 turnings she uses! She played one on a Parker Fly and could spin a knob and the guitar changed tunings and sounds. Joni however didn't try and make her axe sound like a Prophet 5 synth. Which was the coolest synth back then I always thought. Ah youth and the 80's!
July 22, 2014 - 7:39am

#942

mustin321

Joined:
August 12, 2011

Just my opinion...

but I think the Spring of 90 box is the best thing the Grateful Dead have released with the exception of Sunshine Daydream. I am really looking forward to this new box set. I've heard people say that didn't think the box sounded good...but I think the sound is incredibly good. I just recently pieced together 3/24/90 (not sure why I waited so long but the announcement of this new box definitely sparked my motivation) and I've listened to the whole show 4 times in about a weeks time. Now, I will say, I'm not a huge fan of all the MIDI stuff either. I think its okay in small doses or during Space but sometimes it seems jump out and mess up the flow. For example, the Candyman from the first night of the Formerly the Warlocks shows is moving along just beautifully and then errrgggg, the MIDI just destroys the beautiful Jerry solo that would have been. On the other hand, when Jerry goes into the flute sound (or whatever) during the Birdsongs or something like that, I think its great.
July 22, 2014 - 7:38am

#943

hbob1995

Joined:
June 26, 2007

Opinions

We each have our likes and dislikes. With the Dead, I really do not have any "dislikes". There are some things I don't care for as much as some other things I do care for, but I think it is just a different degree of "like". I am not a big fan of Jerry's midi, but sometimes it fits really nicely in a particular spot. But it is what he chose to do on a given song and I will live with his decision and his right to try it out. After all, we all know this band was about experimentation, so where would they / we be if they did not try some different stuff?I would hope that I never attack or disparage anyone's opinion on this site. I read everything posted here and am sometimes amazed by what I read. Some folks skip some of my favorite songs when they are listening and other folks love a song that I do not particularly care for. It just goes to show the wide variety of the Dead experience. I never skip any song when listening. When something comes on that is not a fave of mine, I usually try to listen to it more carefully to see what it is that turns other on. Sometimes my attitude does change as time goes on. I think we all can state our feelings here without being nasty about it. I hope that everyone here is sincere in their posts and that the trolls stay away. Maybe I am too trusting but I would think that if you are not a true fan of the Dead you will just stay away and spend your valuable time on other endeavors. Spring '90 TOO and DaP11 are spread apart by 18 years, but I am looking forward to them both very much. I think DL is always looking for shows that sound great. I think that is his main focus. I don't think Rhino has to worry too much about profit. EVERYTHING they release sells out, most of it very quickly. Buy what you want, don't buy what you don't, and if you get a DaP you do not want, I guarantee someone will take it off of your hands immediately, and maybe for a profit if that is what you want. Rock on
July 22, 2014 - 7:26am

#944

reijo29

Joined:
June 18, 2012

Ganging Up on someone with an opinion

Good Morning Uncle-Who the heck is attacking Spacebro for having an opinion? People are simply defending their right to continue listening to music altogether even if they don't think that every show in the new box set or entire Spring 90 tour is some of the greatest art ever created. If your stars align with Spacebro, that's fantastic. But people will defend themselves and call out an insulting remark (or opinion if you see it as that) all day long. On the other side a lot of people don't like the processed midi sounds which have kind of aged poorly. It was just a moment in time like having a mullet back then. This from the recent Branford interview: Jerry found a way to adapt to whatever the situation was and add a color. When he switched to the [MIDI] guitar synth, I never felt he needed it. Intrusion is too strong a word. It obstructed his sound. But I guess when you've been doing the same shit for 30 years, you need to get something to spike it up a little. I don't see Branford or other people suggesting you have to give up on all music if a particular effect sounds like an obstruction. Perhaps we should stop watching all other Football games if we don't see the greatness, and are not fans of the Green Bay Packers. Silly
July 22, 2014 - 7:23am

#945

Mr.Dc

Joined:
April 7, 2014

New Box

I am really looking forward to this release. 68-69era is what I listen to the most, with 73 also being played a lot. But I am also one of the few that holds Spring 90 up there as just as great. Sure there isn't the crazy May 77 Scarlet Fire, but May 77 didn't have the crazy Here Comes Sunshines or Birdsongs that 73 had, and in turn 73 had no DS-Attics-DS-SugMagjam-DS-StStephen-China-Rider that 1970 has. Reminds me of how 70 doesn't have any New Potatos or Clementines. 90 has many of my favorite tunes such as Black Muddy River, Built to Last, Blow Away, Standing on the Moon, Believe it or Not, Foolish Heart. Spring 90 has a Truckin-Drum-Space-Other One-Hey Jude-Mr Fantasy-Hey Jude-SugMag, Baby Blue finisher. crazy stuff I love having all of these different eras of the Dead represented. Here are some listening suggestions: 10-29-77, 8-03-69, 1-26-69, 2-2-68, 12-06 or 12-12 1973
July 22, 2014 - 6:39am

#946

estimated-eyes

Joined:
December 31, 2008

not to load up....

Sorry to load up on you, Spacebro, but I didn't see any post directed at you that called for your antagonistic post-- and that is what it was. Don't deny it either, people have pulled out the quotes and paraphrased its meaning quite well. Really, to claim to be the victim after that is laughable. I saw the one post about "wheezy 80s era," but who the hell cares. That was just one dude's opinion, why did you let that get your undies in a bunch? I didn't see it as directed at anyone, just his opinion about the music. I am with many others here-- I like Brent era just fine and would like some releases from 1980-89, but 1990 has too much MIDI for my taste. If I wanted to hear a trumpet solo during Mexicali Blues, I would see a Mariachi band. So, I made a decision to save $250 on a box set that would likely get minimal listens. Between Dozin', Terrapin Limited, and 3/29/90, I will have enough of that tour.
July 22, 2014 - 6:06am

#947

MilesM

Joined:
August 13, 2012

Can this guy say this

So im actually gonna talk about the box set for a second if thats allowed here. Theres a version of 3/29 in the archive that you all gotta hear. its one of the downloadable versions so i imagine its an audience recording. You can really here how electric this show really is because the crowd is so loud. There singing along with every song and when they bust into dark star the place goes absolutley nuts. I really hope that when Jeff mixed this show he puts that crowd noise in. I think it gives the show more of a kick in the ass. Check it out its really cool and you can tell Jerry and Bob really brought there A game to this show.
July 22, 2014 - 5:55am

#948

Triad

Joined:
November 3, 2013

90's Dead...

I tried listening to some 90s dead Terrapin lmtd, and Dozin ...I couldn't get past Brent's carnival antics and Jerry's gruff voice. I really tried, but couldn't handle it...I put on May 77 to save my sanity...
July 22, 2014 - 5:33am

#949

Syracuse78

Joined:
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Spacebro Wrote...

If people are passing on this because they don't like the era, it's probably best for them to give up on music altogether and focus on other things in life like sports, cars or politics because they obviously don't have an ear and/or an open mind for greatness. Musical/artistic taste is subjective in nature. Some people get it, some don't. I find it laughable that you don't see this as the very epitome of a "Deader Than Thou" mentality. I personally am happy when different folks have different opinions on whether they like the Dead, and what eras they tend to enjoy the most. But the (paraphrasing here) "This is great and if you can't see/hear it, you really should find another passion as you OBVIOUSLY don't get it" idea is a tad condescending. It seems like the exact mentality that you say you are being persecuted for is the EXACT SAME MENTALITY that you are espousing. I don't tend to fully appreciate the "I can make my guitar sound like a clarinet" sound, so don't usually choose to spin MIDI era shows, but that is just my opinion of what pleases me. Once in a while I put that era on, and I never cry about it when TPTB choose to market that era in a box set or DaP. You see, it's just not what suits my ear the best. I truly thought the most humorous post ever (I really thought you were kidding) was, after agitating for an '80s/'90s release for seemingly forever, the first thing you say about the new box is that it will be great, but you don't have the cash to buy it. Glad that's working out for ya.
July 22, 2014 - 5:01am

#950

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

lets all gang up on spacebro for having an opinion

Man, there are some not kind people here for some reason, who cares who likes what, just enjoy the music. What I seem to read here is that a lot of people love the seventies output from the band, ok, cool. Lets not attack people for having a different opinion than you. I'm not gonna list all the offenders, but reading what most of you say, a turd from the 70's is better than anything from any other era. Too bad. Keep gobbling up those turds and they will keep dropping them on your doorstep. With this kind of response, we will never get any of the great shows from the eighties or nineties. Wait, did I hear someone say "what great shows?". I thought so, so lets have a debate about that, without name calling and hate. All though I think that might not be possible for some of you.

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What's Inside:
•144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
•A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
• Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
•8 complete shows on 23 discs
      •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      •3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      •4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      •4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

Box Set Availability

Since there isn't a page for this particular box set anymore, anyone around here have an idea when "Winterland June 1977" box set will be back in the store? Thanks!!

Winterland 77 availability

I doubt that's coming back. It's been sold out for many months. It sold out around the time Winterland 73 sold out and that one is probably not coming back either.

seamless transitions?

I'm afraid I don't have time to read 34 pages' worth of comments right about now, so I'm hoping that someone can answer this for me (with apologies if it has already been asked and answered somewhere in this thread): are the Hi-Def files seamless, or are there fade-outs (and fade-ins) between drums and space like there would be on the Apple files? I instinctively want to believe that they would be seamless, as they can't be burned to discs but I would appreciate it if someone could confirm this for me. Thanks in advance!

so glad I took the plunge

I finally talked myself into picking this up the other day. Came today, I am just starting disc 2 of 3-14 and I am already so glad I picked this up. The sound is incredible and the band was killing it. The box is on another level. I am now thinking I wished I had bought the first box when I had the chance. I won't pay $900 and up for it, i guess i will just keep my eyes peeled for a deal. Thanks for the push fellow heads.

First Box

Johndrano, You can now get the first box set as a lossless download. You don't get the book and other bits and pieces and you will have to burn your own cds if you want to listen on a cd player but the cost of the ALAC version from dead.net is way cheaper than $900! Here's the link http://www.dead.net/store/1990s/spring-1990-volume-one-box?intcmp=store…

That was very funny. I just

That was very funny. I just don't have that kind of it. Says a lot in a few short words.

Winter is coming???

Was listening to the Nassau 3/28/90 show earlier and when thinking about the cover artwork-- the wolf, raven and gold crown piece-- couldn't help but think Jessica Dessner had Game of Thrones on her mind. Or... maybe I just do!

Individual shows...

I really wish these downloads were available piecemeal, show by show. I would definitely pick up each show individually over time, but dropping $200 all at once can be difficult for some people. Love that the FLACs are in HD though...

Yeah that would be nice

Quality sound ?

I am not sure if i get this,people are saying that the recordings are not that great for one reason or another but what it comes down to is these shows will put you to sleep. The overall energy is almost invisible 7 minute Halfstep,8 minute playin's, 17 minutes for a Help On The Way>Slipknot>Franklins Tower TOTAL. A 8 or 9 minute China-Cat>Rider has no time to even find a groove or a 19 minute Scarlet-fire it's over before it starts. How is this for an idea lets forget the '90's forever plus there was a million tapers if you want that MIDI bullshit. Why not jump to some shows worth listening to like march of '73,fall of '73 with horns,6/22,6/23,6/27/74,10/15,11/1,11/6/77 or 4/12,5/7/78 or 2/17/79,1/5/79 i could keep going but one thing is for damn sure NO MORE'90's please. Am i the only person that despise's that freaking midi-sound?

3/21/90

Ya know, I'm not the biggest 80s or 90s fan either. But I gotta say the 3/21/90 show kinda blows me away. There is a ton of energy here and little MIDI. I saw 30 or so shows in the 80s and none of them were as good as this one. Maybe it's an acquired taste. Give it a few spins and see if you don't warm up to it.

Spring '90

A reply to the poster from 4/30. Besides being a very poorly written post and wandering to the point where I don't know exactly what they were trying to say other than they don't like GD after 1979.. I simply disagree. I love '67 - 74 too, but if you don't like later day sound, no one is holding a gun to your head to get this, please have some manners and show some respect. There's plenty of energy in the shows in this box. I am half-way through a second listen of this whole tour and added in Formerly the Warlocks and Nightfall of Diamonds for good measure. The song selections, recordings, performances and mix are peak, later year GD. I especially like the song selections and performances contained in this box. I am happy to disagree with the rant two posts prior to this and dig the mix on Spring '90 TOO. My experience is more in line with One-Man's. Enjoy.

Spring Box "Too"

Just received my box... its awesome. Used my cancelled FTW monies..looks like some cold rain and snow will start here soon ..peace

rdrewr

Have fun on tour! Good choice,enjoy!:)

Absolutely superb

I've been a loyal fan since '76. Had tons of tapes, now CDs, bought all the Dicks, Daves, and box releases. This box, in my opinion, has the finest quality live Dead recordings I have ever heard. You really feel like you're on stage with them. Well done guys!

Piggybacking

Piggybacking on @rdrewr's comment, this box set will in the end prove to be money far, far better spent than getting the Fare Thee Well set. The sound quality/mix is magnificent. And as much as I enjoyed watching & listening to the Chicago shows they do not in any way have the repeat listening value that this does. Also, I love me some Trey Anastasio -- I do -- but Jerry is here and he plays pretty damn well on these dates, with a band that is tight with him and vice-versa. It's really no comparison.

WOW

Such good $$ spent here. Mix clear and in my face (yep, very loud, haha) Blessed that one left for me. rrot.. your right. Peace to all. Jerry, happy Bday my friend, miss you tons :((

Less than 500

I'm listening to a few of these gems for the last week, 3/14, 3/21, 4/1, WOW these have awesome sound. And the band is ON every night, almost, on this tour. I can't believe this isn't sold out. Jeez, this is some of the hottest later dead around! Thanks to those who made these great recordings, and mixes. I am truly grateful! nitecat

Recap

I'm also surprised this hasn't sold out yet. The quality of the recordings and performances are top notch. I revisit this release more than any other. The unconditional generosity by many people here to gift me this treasure trove makes it all that much more special for me. THANK YOU!!!

Less than 500

Maybe not sold out because they have made an awesome hi-res download version available ... it is what I bought.

3rd spin through

It's really a great sounding box and the shows are very good. Very glad I bought it after all

Purchased the box..but..

I bought it unopened on ebay, and the tray that holds the book was damaged (smashed in and torn where it says Spring 1990) when Rhino put the set together. Not the end of the world, the music still sounds great, but I'm now looking for a replacement of that piece. If anybody wants to sell just the box, please PM me. I don't even need the extras or the book..really just need the tray. Thanks.

If You Haven't Got this by Now...

If you haven't got this by now and want it.. There's less than 100 left, bet it disappears just about the time the first tax refunds start to appear.

This Set Is HOT

Incredible performances. Something about these 1990 shows really let your mind melt into the music. They're so polished and smooth sounding. There's so many aspects to attribute to the sound here and it's absolutely mind blowing. Just to name one minor piece, I know some people dislike the use of Jerry's MIDI equipped guitar, but I personally think it adds something truly unique to the performances. Maybe even a touch of surprise at times. The goodies that come in the boxed set are great as well. Definitely a must for Dead enthusiasts.

Just Ordered

I just ordered this box set. I have volume 1. Love it. I guess I didn't realize that there was a volume 2 until a few days ago. I don't come here a lot. Looking forward to Xmas. For that price, it's an Xmas present to me.

Taking the plunge

I'm down to only two 30 trips to listen with virgin ears (72 & 74) and saw this box was 15% off yesterday. As my wife likes to tell me, "It was on sale, I just saved you money!" We'll see if this man smarter.

Taking the Plunge!

This man smarter! The music is great! You will be so happy!

Opened Today

Quality is first rate. Sound and workmanship of the cases, printing on the CD's All First rate. I wish though that iTunes didn't make it so hard to gulp these down onto the computer. Inconsistent album titles. Inconsistent dics numbers. Of all the CD's it took longer to sort them out in iTunes than it too to rip them. Grrr. I understand that this is Apple/iTunes fault and not the CDs.

Totally Awesome!

I find it incredible that this box is not sold out. The sound is first rate and Jerry's playing and vocals are strong. While some have complained about the MIDI, there were only two or three times it didn't work for me. In fact, I found it a nice change in LLR which is always a buzz kill for me. Touch is bouncy, Man Smart very good (although the attempt for audience interaction doesn't cut it) and Althea one for the ages. Have fun!

iTunes issues....

Just wanted to throw this out there, I too was frustrated with iTunes metadata, however I believe this is from lazy and inaccurate individuals who load their poorly labeled discs to Gracenote or whatever, and then the options are usually wrong for the rest of us. This all started for me when I decided to import the E72 box. Nightmare!! My advice is, pick the option that "looks" the most accurate, but DO NOT import it as such. Instead, choose NOT to import, fix the mistakes first, then import away. Sorry for a three moth old reply, but we are all in this together. (~}:-

only 14 left

Been waiting for what seems like forever for this thing to sell out.

Spring 1990 Box (The Other One)

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! On yesterday I have got my Spring Box (The Other One). Thanks a lot guys that you have bring to us this exciting and beautiful box!

Gone...

Finally gone. That will make the folks at Rhino happy. Took a long time for one reason or another. Too soon after the first one? Simultaneous downloads available? 9000 was too many?

Hey now!

Pulled the trigger just in time this afternoon... Mickey's damn Beam told me, turns out it was the right call. Feels all the more special that it came so close. I'll be returning home to this precious package after nearly 4 months across the pond in a week plus. Perhaps my first post on deadland? I've been reading each and every release comment that you crazies have drummed up for years now. Maybe I'll be back! Nice place to be. Dave, dead.net, all involved in this community, thanks a ton!

Oh!

The problem with posting when a release finally sells out is that it inevitably becomes available again a day or two later. Won't make that mistake again. Stranger than fiction.

song lengths

purplekush, I know this is a year after your post, but just for the record, gotta call b/s on your song-length observations: "7 minute Halfstep" ~ yeah, that's short, but so is 12/19/73 (7:29) "8 minute playin's" ~ 8:56 (7/1/78), meanwhile 10:27 (3/14/90), 11:40 (4/3/90) "17 minutes for a Help On The Way>Slipknot>Franklins Tower TOTAL" ~ 14:50 (8/13/75) "8 or 9 minute China-Cat>Rider has no time to even find a groove" ~ 13:17 (3/15/90), 11:09 (3/26/90), 10:24 (4/01/90), 11:05 (9/19/90) No 8 or 9-minute versions I could find on any of my '90 releases. "a 19 minute Scarlet-fire it's over before it starts" ~ really? I guess these are, too? : 19:33 (10/16/77), 18:01 (11/2/77), 18:16 (5/11/78), 19:55 (7/3/78), 18:28 (7/7/78) 3/16/90's Scarlet > Estimated is 22:25. Incidentally, 11/4/77's Other One = 4:25, and 7/5/78's Truckin' = 7:29. They're both pretty hot, though. Morals of the story ~ some older years boast just as short or shorter lengths as '90; not all '90 lengths are as short as you claimed; and most importantly, song lengths alone do not tell the tale on performance heat. I do share your wish for one of the Fall '73 shows with horns!

Thanks

I'd check for you but I didn't order this box. Hopefully someone who did will be kind enough to take 5 mins to get you some confirmation so you don't think you're going nuts! beet juice

Miracle numbered edition?

Does anyone have any definitive information on what exactly this is? Heres a link to the ebay item, it has sold, so if you click on this link and you are on a computer or phone, you will need to click on the item to see the original listing. Then you can see the photos, and the numbered coin, which instead of havings its own number, it says, "miracle"? Im thinking this might be what they decided to do with promo copies, instead of leaving it blank, or stamping it "promo" like the FW69 boxset. The Dave's Picks series, all have blank promo copies. (Would be very interesting to know how many promos they make for each of these limited edition items!!) Ok, heres the link:http://m.ebay.com/itm/Grateful-Dead-Spring-1990-The-Other-One-Box-Set-M… If you have the ebay app, you can also just enter this number in the search box, and it will bring you to the same item. Again, it has already sold, so you will need to click on it, to open the original listing. That item number is: 162549487635 Id really like to know what the miracle means on the numbered coins...it makes sense that it would be a promo, that they sent out to reviewers and whomever else is lucky enough to get all this stuff, we all do everything we can to afford, for free! And instead of stamping promo, or leaving blank, they stamped miracle, as in here is your miracle (free) 1990 spring TOO boxset!!! Must be nice!!! Still, though, would like to know for sure! Thanks.

3/24/1990

To Fully reconstruct the show from 3/24/1990 at the Knick, you would need to buy " Without A Net " for the One More Saturday Night that closed the 1st Set, Postcards of the Hanging to get the Desolation Row that followed Loser in the 1st set, Dozin' at the Knick for Walking Blues in the 1st set and all of the 2nd set, and Spring 1990 (The Other One) to get the other songs from the 1st set. That show got hacked to pieces.

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