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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • cheyler196
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    Can anyone tell me why DVD-A is not the preferred format? One disc, one complete show, smaller space needed to store boxed sets, all you have to do is run your dvd player into a receiver and that's it.
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    Bush bad - Obama much much worse. Now keep your filthy unwelcome politics to yourself, we come here to escape the reality that a bunch of incompetent voters traded away our right to maintain our own health care system.
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    can't wait to get this box and listen to it in chronological order, choosing era-appropriate drugs for each show - lots of psychedelics for the 60s, maybe some grass and ludes for the early to mid-70s, followed by some blow for the late 70s stuff, graduating to crack for the 80s, and finishing up with ecstasy and other synthetics for the 90s. bring it on!
  • cheyler196
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    Ah well, that's the way I understood it anyway. If I'm wrong about something I don't mind finding out about it.
  • Edwin
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    No, it makes you a 9.2857143 e-07'er! given that there's more than 7 billion people, most of whom won't get it.
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    You should really check out these two links. The first is a youtube video put by xiph audio engineers, the second is a long article that you should check out in its entirety when you have the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Also, I should preface my remarks by pointing out that this has nothing to do with mp3 or any other lossy file format. It is referring to lossless, whether compressed lossless(like flac) or uncompressed lossless (like wav). mp3's are clearly inferior - the question being addressed is whether standard 16/44.1 is inferior to 24/96 or 24/192. If you think the answer is yes, you should really check out both links. Although within the video this is mentioned, it is not emphasized, even though I think it is the most important point. What he shows on the video is that, as long as only frequencies below 22,050hz are being sampled (band limited at 22,050hz), then an audio wave of any complexity sampled at 44,100 times per second yields a series of discrete samples where ONE AND ONLY ONE curve (the sound wave) passes through each point. You can draw a different curve through all the points, but it can proven that ANY deviation from the original would mathematically compel the original to include frequencies ABOVE 22,050hz. Since we know that we excluded all those frequencies, only the original (source) curve is correct. The job of the analog to digital converter is to recreate this original curve. Unless you are an infant or a bat, you don't, and will never, be able to hear or detect frequencies of 22,050hz or higher anyway. The video does a good job of explaining what 16-bits means. Most people don't know. The different - the ONLY difference between audio sampled at 16, 24, or even 1, bit(s) is the level of noise (exactly equivalent to tape hiss) that is produced by the digitizing process. In other words, it affects the dynamic range of softest to loudest sounds that can be encoded. 16-bits (especially dithered) has a wider dynamic range than exists on any of your music recordings. I have seen people wishing for higher than 16-bit files of recordings made prior to the early '80s. Well, reel-to-reel has a MAXIMUM dynamic range that is equivalent to about 13 bits. Casettes have a maximum of about 7, but were usually in the range of 4-6 bit equivalent in dynamic range. You can never get what was never in the recording to begin with. Even the most perfect reel-to-reel of, say, Dark Side Of The Moon, can NEVER be improved by adding more than 16-bits, because the ORIGINAL RECORDING never had more than 13-bits of dynamic range. Modern digital recordings, even though they are professionally created with 24 or even 32 bits, still don't utilize more than 16-bits of dynamic range. One key thing to keep in mind is that the audio situation is NOTHING like the video situation - using terms like high-def or high-res to compare what is happening with audio with what is happening with video is a complete misunderstanding - they shouldn't be using the same terminology and here is why. In video, high def gives more information to your eye. The more pixels, the higher the resolution, the better the image - the better the OUTPUT of the system sending information to your eyes. That is NOT true in audio, but it's a little complicated why. In hi-def AUDIO, there ARE more samples (creating larger files), HOWEVER, your EAR is never given any additional information because the digital to analog converter recreates the EXACT sound wave that was used to create it. In effect, 16/44.1 is LOSSLESS. This is only true if the sampling rate is at least twice the highest sound frequency being digitized. But, that's not a problem, since you CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING at above 20khz. So, the OUTPUT that the digital to analog converter creates, the SOUND WAVE that is created is EXACTLY THE SAME as if the converter was given 92khz sampled file. The only difference between a 44.1kz file and a 92khz file is the the 92khz file can properly encode all frequence in the range from 0 to 48khz, and the 44.1khz file can only properly (losslessly) encode frequencies from 0 to 22khz. Who cares? The range from 22khz to 48khz is INAUDIBLE TO YOU AND ALWAYS WILL BE - COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY IN EVERY WAY UNDETECTABLE BY YOU. If you think otherwise, you should contact a university science department immediately as they may want look into using you as a secret weapon or somehow or other. In any case, check out both links. Or don't, because it is perfectly fine enjoying what you think you are hearing also (that's not sarcastic, seriously.)
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    We've all heard about various bands that were true originals and 'opened the door' for others to walk through...NYDolls, Pistols, GD and others. The Dead held the door open for decades and no one walked through. A couple stumbled through but fell on their faces. Nothing else like them to this date. All the other bands that claim to have been inspired or influenced are, really, just crap (for lack of a better word). My opinion, if you haven't guessed, is that it's all contrived quasi-hippie bullshit.
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    It's hard to generalize about mp3s. They are not created equal. I would challenge anyone to hear the difference between a well converted 320kbs mp3 and a CD quality FLAC. These listening tests have been done over and over and it appears that a vanishingly small number of people can tell the difference with any statistical significance. Of course, that assumes a playback system that can represent the resolution. In a car, iPod, boom box, etc., all bets are off. I listen to 320kbs mp3s (or AACs) most of the time through my Grace Design/McIntosh/Avalon system and it sounds amazing. Lower than 256kbs and it sounds like dog doo. Even 256kbs mp3s are a bit dodgy. As far as the analogy goes, it's not a good one. Nyquist proved that decades ago. You only need two samples per frequency interval to perfectly reproduce the waveform. Not adequately, but perfectly. Higher resolution buys you nothing and if you go up too high, you can end up with intermodulation distortion in the audio band. 60khz is about perfect, but of course, we have a jump from 48khz to 88.2. As an audio engineer, I'm usually doing 88.2 these days. But 44.1khz honestly sounds really good with the right converters. Of course, I would never condone reconstituted FLACs, WAVs, etc., from mp3s being passed along by traders as full resolution.
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    Damn right.
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    The best way I've heard it described is to think of a photo in the newspaper. It's all made up of dots (or used to be anyway). Looking at it from arm's length it looks pretty good. Look closer and closer and you can see the dots that make up the picture. With mp3, you can 'hear the dots' much more easily than you can with flac. There are many different types of files, some lossy and some not. Starting at the bottom and working upward, each has more information than the last. That's about it. There's just less information included which is why mp3s are so much smaller than flac. I don't get the mp3 thing, unless it's something that can't be procured any other way...and they're a huge liability for traders. I'd rather burn up GBs at a faster rate than get ANYTHING in mp3. They are the bane of all existence, although still not approaching the level of George Fucking Bush.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Tomorrow will bring us one month away from the big box. They've got to give us something........right?
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Tomorrow is one month until it ships - add one week (or more depending on your location) until we have it in our grubby little hands.
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Does this quote feel a little like an empty promise to any one right now? " So now you have it, but you should stay tuned as we will be revealing tons of great music, artwork, and more." 12 songs hardly count as "tons if music" and I haven't seen any "art work, and more yet".
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They can't show us yet.....too many box-cutter marks.Ooops.Here's to hoping the next 30 days fly by. :)
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To those who possess "The Best of the Grateful Dead Hour" did anyone notice that the rehearsal that took place at Club Front on 9/26/90 is NOT in DB 50, even though the Terrapin>Playing in the Band>Terrapin is less than 3 minutes long it would be interesting to see what other songs the boys were teaching to Bruce as you can clearly hear Jerry explaining the chord progressions during the Playing to Bruce. It is still the most interesting & unusual CD I own of any band. I have notified Stu Nixon from DeadBase & he stated he will definitely look into it, as it's obvious rehearsals did in fact take place on 9/??/90 & 9/28/90, I would presume that the rehearsal on Best of... is the one dated "9/??/90 it also seems as though Goodnight Irene was also performed. A detailed description of the CD is on page 317 of DeadBase 50. I received DeadBase 50 on Saturday & it's already worthy of the $89.99 I paid for it, it's an invaluable tool for ALL Deadheads. And yes it's on the coffee table as it has the Wife's Seal of Approval.
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30 Days until 30 Trips Around The Sun, my goal during the countdown is to call it a different name everyday, so today let's just call it 30 Trips....... And while I'm at it why not an unveiling of what to expect? I would like to know what I'm getting for my $699.98 PLUS TAX. To The Powers That Be let's make it happen. Stay cool Philly as it's going to be HOT HOT HOT in the concrete jungle. HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND
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I tell you what powers that be... Don't worry about giving us a preview! Just ship it out 2 weeks early and I promise that I will personally take a box cutter and severely damage my copy. This should save you guys some time in the warehouse!
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Hey Dusty. I'm one of the folks that thinks the box cutter slices are not big deal really. However, I still couldn't help laughing out loud when I read your post. The offer to self-slice in return for earlier shipping sounds fair to me :)
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http://www.amazon.com/Live-Saratoga-1988-Vol-1/dp/B00UYOXW6Q/ref=sr_1_1… So... I just ran across this on Amazon. Says it's available for Pre-Order now, and ships on Sept. 18th (same date as Boxzilla). There's a Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, both of which are only available on vinyl. Anyone know anything about this? If not... there you go. I'm not a vinyl guy (anymore), but I figured that several on here are.
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There is also a CD set for this available and the reviews are not good. Some people on amazon stating there are soundboards out there that sound better. So, is the vinyl gonna better any better? I'll wait...this is a bootleg release, obviously, but I have a bootleg vinyl of 5/8/77 and it sounds great. So, who knows?
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At the Steve Hoffman forums folks are reporting that this label's releases are on quality vinyl, and that while they are technically not legit in the USA, they aren't bootlegs in Europe due to a quirk of EU copyright law: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/let-them-eat-vinyl-are-these-legi… Essentially, archive.org FM sources pressed to vinyl. Waste your money if you're so inclined, IMO.
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Original boot of 8-13-75(namely the "Make Believe Ballroom"), taken from FM, goes for over $100.It has nothing to do with the material being available other places, and everything to do with collecting. I still buy original vinyl of stuff I have on CD, or even on other vinyl. Some boots have attained legendary status and have even been reissued in legit fashion, for example Dylan's Great White Hope, reissued last April for RSD.
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So where is it? We have had 4 listening parties and that is it. Is that really "tons" of music? Dont say things like this if you have no plans to actually do it.
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Got my Deadbase 50 today,,, it's a big book, I'll skim through it, but most data lookups I'll still do online. I got it just to have it. Even better get was Road Trips Volume 1 Number 2,, the man wasn't lying, it came with the bonus disc! I called the help desk to verify if it came that way and they couldn't tell, ordered it on word of someone out there, THANKS. I don't know if they have any more, but if you don't have and would like, maybe you should order one. It temps me to try buying the last few the of the RT they say aren't sold out to see if I can get lucky twice.
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thanks to you from the Rex Foundation, which continues to get a portion of the proceeds from each copy!
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I'm ready for this box-set!........Great way to start the fall....I'm going to listen from start to finish in order and listen to the evolution of the band...Sounds good... I'm ready for this box-set!......
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Oh man, I gotta get busy. I still have the final 2 1/2 Spring 90 TOO shows to get through before 30 Trips arrives. Then I'll get to about a show a week for -- 30 weeks! I'm definitely going to listen chronologically. Finished the S90 Branford show last night. Best thing about it: Branford. Dude has uncanny skills. Then I jump back to finish Show 5 tonight. Shows 7 & 8 are last. I hope they are as good as the best ones on the tour. I find them hit or miss, but the hits are marvelous.
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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29 days until TPTB start shipping MEGA BOX.
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I have it from a valid source that they are going to deliver the box sets using same trucks that carried the Wall of Sound. The size and weight were an exact match! I would like a sneak peek, though, if possible. Not to defend them, but I recall a similar intent to show us what's in the box before E72 shipped and they just ran out of time.
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I seem to remember TPTB showing an illustration of the E72 box with compartments etc. which led many people to believe there would be more *swag*. When there wasn't said *swag* TPTB got a lot of grief as I recall. Personally, just gimme the damn MUSIC. I don't need replica backstage passes (I needed them when the show happened!) or floor plans for the hockey arenas they played. Just…the…MUSIC.
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I don't mean to downplay anyone's enjoyment of the extras but I always ask myself… If they give me extras, will I enjoy the music more? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. I'll checkout the extras once, maybe twice but that's it. If they don't give me extras will it lessen my enjoyment? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. In summation: Extras = Overjoyed No Extras = Overjoyed Looks like the "Overjoyeds" have it!
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The next thing you are going to tell is the big Steelie I got tattooed on my forehead yesterday was a waste of money and makes me no more fun to hang with than the boring terd I was last week. This is going to be a long month.
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It's never a waste of money…tattoo = extra = overjoyed! The month will fly by (I find the older I get, the faster it goes). I plan on listening to 11/2/77 AGAIN today (it's the first and only time I've listened to the same show more than 3 times in 1 week) and for the rest of time I'll be dipping deep into the Dead well.
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But the extras are always a huge plus! I loved the WUTFO artwork from Spring 90 TOO. I got it framed and it looks beautiful. The essays and photos are great at accentuating the music.
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Damn, Jim, that's hardcore! And I thought my tattoo was daring...dancing bears tramp-stamped across the small of my back.
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Good idea, Tramp Stamp.. wish I would have thought of that...
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I am all about the extras. The more liner notes, the better. Cool trinkets? Yes please. That's what makes buying the box more worth the money than just getting a USB in the mail.
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The only "Attics" listed is dated 5-17-76 Aces, Mill Valley, CA it appears to be the only song that was rehearsed. The only item listed for 5-28-76 is; 5-28-76 Orpheum Theater, San Francisco, CA Change venue to Orpheum All of the above information is on page 53 of DeadBase 50.
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If you flip to the DeadBase XI section wissinoming you will see that indeed the fantastic Attics mbarilla is speaking of was indeed played (3X) the sole correction made to that entry in DeadBase50 is to omit 'Theatre' from the original entry. Why they did not use OCR software is beyond me.
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...I sit with DB50 open to pg.314 of XI, on which you'll find the '81 NYE review by our own MaryE; which leads me to my request for help: could anyone seed the Tobin 12/31/81 recording over on LL? If its any incentive, I'm currently seeding Floyd from 9/30/71 (BBC archives) as well as the Miller SBD from one of the GOGD's peak nights during the near-uniformly awesome year of '77 - 10/29/77 (remember our discussion back on The Eleven?!)/thanks for any assistance, K
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....that Hornsby practice is priceless!! Jerry says "cheeseburger for Phil" at one point during the Saint intro. WTF does that mean? Lol. Bruce caught on quick, as did Vince. Six weeks of practice and they churned out the '90 Europe tour?! Incredible. Jerry seems to come across as a kindred soul to have met. Wish I would have been able to.... ....oh. Hi Kate! ....wait. Garcia loved cheeseburgers, as the story goes. Maybe they just had Burger King deliver some Whoppers!...
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....Bobby says "I can't play it if I think too hard about it". Phil responds with "Then stop making it harder than it has to be!" Sorry for the play by play, but this is funny shit. Check it out. The link is like five posts below.... ...Jerry chimes in with "It doesn't matter" a couple of times. Figures....
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The box has (as stated) a 288 page book. I'm for any liner notes or any essays/evaluations of the shows from those in the know. I'm also for any posters, handbills or photos that are relevant to a given show. The Spring '90 box had a book, program, and poster (all welcome) but it also had replica backstage passes, replica concert ticket stubs, and hockey arena floor plans, that not only increased the price of the box but to me, seemed utterly useless. I needed all that when the shows happened not 20+ years after the fact. We are a diverse lot, each of us a world unto ourself. The bottom line is in 5 weeks we'll have the Mother-Of-All-Box Sets in our hands and regardless of the extras ALL WILL BE GOOD…...until the next box set! (HaHa)
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28 days until Tyrannosaurus Box ships.
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I don't suppose a bonus disc will accompany boxzilla or the 4cd? Or could there be?
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I don't think there is any chance of a bonus disc. Otherwise it would have been announced to push presales.
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I don't think a bonus disc is likely, but for $700, we should get a bonus show on DVD or something. Maybe just put the 3/23/75 and 6/17/75 shows as a bonus, that way, all of 1975 will have been released. If they could put bonus discs on Winterland '73 and '77, why haven't they included them on subsequent box sets?
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I am still trying to figure out how these are all "tent pole" shows. If that were the case wouldn't 5-7-77 or 5-8-77 be in this box? 4-25-77 maybe great for all I know but I guess we shall see.
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The blurb states, "We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent."
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Regarding 5/7/77 and 5/8/77, unless things have changed, the master reels for those shows are not in the Vault; this is why they haven't been released yet. This is true for many other shows, including 5/9/77 as well. They know who has the master reels for those three shows. The physical tapes actually belonged to Betty Cantor (formerly Betty Cantor-Jackson), but when payments were not kept up on the storage locker the tapes were stored in, the entire contents of the locker were auctioned off. So, the purchaser legally owns the tapes, but not the actual music - so he cannot commercially release that material either. I believe he wants a substantial amount of money for the return of those tapes. Up until now, GD have been unwilling to pay for what they think should be returned to them. But, you never know.
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wjonjd - never trust a prankster. All good things in all good time. (I know - phraaaaase dropper!)
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...and thank you to my torrent angel!/peace, K
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... if they released Boxzilla with 5/8/77 on it, limiting it to 6500 copies and forcing people to buy a 700 dollar box to get it, well... it would kinda be like releasing 9/28/75 that way, hahahahahhahaHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaagh. I'm okay. "Scarlet>Fire from 11/1/79, take me away."
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27 days until Super Box!! HAPPY FRIDAY, DEADLAND, So glad WE made it!!!!!!!!!
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