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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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February 10, 2016 - 4:41pm

#181

jrf68@hotmail.com

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Off topic

Moses GuestLive Stages Get some...it's good. :) ...Over The Car->Under The Stairs...
February 10, 2016 - 3:13pm

#182

LoveJerry

Joined:
March 19, 2015

dharwin

Somebody on the other thread, I forget who, brought up a point about the secondary market, which was basically that Rhino depends on it to ensure they sell x number of copies of each release in a very short amount of time. This guy who wrote the article worked for a record company or something, I wish I could find the post. But it totally makes sense. Basically, Rhino needs to sellout each release in 3 or 4 weeks to not only be profitable, but to extend the life of the series. By making it limited edition, they sellout immediately and actually rely on the secondary market to be there and buy out what the individuals don't buy. It amounts to free distribution for Rhino. They sell off their 16,500 Dave's Picks in a week, and never pay a dime in distribution costs. For Rhino this means more dollars per unit and less units sold to make both make a profit and re-invest in the next release (and making the next profit). So I get it. Rhino is a very unique position, in that they have a rare product with seemingly no end, and this thing called the internet. And in fact, these very message boards are a major source of advertisement. I'm just happy I'm ahead of the curve now. I spent a lot on eBay back-filling my Dead collection. What I would be interested in, is the legalities involved in re-issuing a product that they originally sold as a limited quantity item. Even if legal, I doubt they would do it, out of fear of ruining their current, buy it now, while it's hot sales model, which is undoubtedly working. One thing I feel confident in, is that if Rhino felt that re-releasing FW 69 Complete would be profitable in the long run, they would do it (and perhaps they will). But I imagine it's a tricky balance, as Morning Sun said - never underestimate the turmoil of breaking a promise to the original people who bought it (of whom I am not one - fucker cost me 400 bucks). Plus I'm sure they all have a dozen copies of all of them that they're saving for 10 years from now when they're going for a grand on eBay ;-)
February 10, 2016 - 9:55am

#183

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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FW 69 re-release

Not sure what the exact wording was when they first released it, but some of the music included in the set has been available on the 3 disc compilation.Rhino could produce a set with all 4 FW 69 shows, add 2-11-69 Fillmore East release, change the name and add a disclaimer that would say something like "portions of this set was previously released as Ltd Edition FW box set, etc." Lots of "limited Edition only", and "promo only" music has been re-released that way.
February 10, 2016 - 8:31am

#184

mbarilla

Joined:
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FW69 Box set

if they want to re-release they would definetely need a new mix. I dont think packaging much to do with it
February 10, 2016 - 7:43am

#185

Roland Bruynesteyn

Joined:
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re-release FW'69

FWIW, let me echo SpaceBro's (and others) sentiment: I own FW'69, and enjoy it immensely.By all means, re-release it, so that more people can enjoy it. I do not mind scalping, or a secondary market. In general, I don't mind limited editions, bonus discs with first runs etc; companies can run their business as they see fit. But I'm a capitalist through and through: if more people want it, and Rhino can make more money, by all means let's do it. I know that the secondary market, at least in this particular case, exists bcause Rhino said that FW'69 would never be released (in any form?) again. Some people would feel cheated if, after paying a lot (NOT to Rhino though), it was re-released. But surely most Deadheads would want other Deadheads to be able to acquire this set, and there should be some way around it (cheaper packaging or whatever) to get past this?
February 10, 2016 - 6:37am

#186

Born Cross Eye…

Joined:
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FW 69 box re-issue?

Yes, reissue it as a limited edition of 16,000.$130 each + shipping and sales taxes where applicable. For that $130 you'll get the four shows - 2/27, 2/28, 3/1 & 3/2/1969 in 4 tye-dyed design artwork, thin cardboard type sleeves with a simple booklet with only the song titles, the track times, the songwriters credits and publishers credits with two or three photos, WITHOUT AN ESSAY, all enclosed in a lightweight cardboard case with artwork similar to the original 2005 issue.
February 10, 2016 - 6:14am

#187

Sun King

Joined:
September 19, 2007

shrine vinyl et al...

glad to hear the 69 shrine vinyl release sounds so good. i plan on picking one up soon. as for the 69 box, and other limited releases, i think rhino needs to view their 'investment' in the grateful dead as being holders of something culturally significant. limited edition stuff should be just the initial physical product, but everything should be available via download. as i've said before, they should act like smithsonian/folkways, where nothing they have ever released goes out of print. you can't go to their site and order an original woody guthrie or leadbelly record, those have been out of print forever, but you can download it or order a custom burned cd. there is nothing you can not order. i believe rhino is just waiting for the last 150 usb's to sell, then they will offer all 30 shows via download. as for the 69box, i don't remember their wording, but a physical product probably can't, or shouldn't, be re-released that way, but all 4 shows should be put out via download, if the suits think they can legally do it. if not, lesson learned....
February 9, 2016 - 7:28pm

#188

Charlie3

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Ramble On

Dennis Wilmot, feel free to ramble on, you made some good points in a funny way. it sounds like I may have been one of the same two people seated next to you at shows;)For my two cents, I have the 30 trips box and it wouldn't bother me a bit if they made another production run in the future, with or without all the extras. I didn't buy it as an investment, I purchased it because I wanted to have the music and after missing out on FW69 I knew I would regret not having it more than I would regret spending the money. At some point I would like to pick up FW69, but there is a limit to what I can pay and feel OK about the purchase. I understand that the limited edition model is probably what makes the ongoing releases possible to this extent, so it is what it is, but it seems that they could set it up so that it would be possible to reissue things after some period of time. As far as copying limited edition releases, I guess the band makes their money when the original sale occurs and are unaffected by any subsequent transactions, so there's that.
February 9, 2016 - 6:53pm

#189

Dennis

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Re-releases, Limited Editions, illegal copies, ebay prices

I throw my 2 cents into this, I agree with those that say a release of limited edition stuff as maybe a digital download is just fine with me. As always if price is the limiting factor I can not believe you can't find someone to make you a copy. Some say "oh that's illegal", sounds like corporate lawyer talk to me. I agree you shouldn't be knocking out 1,000 copies of something and selling them at the local flea market, but to slip a buddy a copy, fuck no. I remember when people didn't even think twice about making a cassette copy for a friend. Of course the "industry" hated that, they even tried to get a "tax" on blank tapes to cover the "losses" they were suffering. What hogwash! The record companies seem to be doing fine! Ebay prices will disappear or come down if people stop buying them, just like tickets for sporting events (which sports fan seem to believe are way out of whack). Remember when FM first took off and stations would play a perfect album side, even told you when to start your tape. I'm sorry if the record industry makes a product that is easy to copy. Why didn't they just keep producing records? You couldn't copy them as easily as cd. Because they wanted to squeeze out the free music of radio, cd's people would buy more of because you could take them in your car. Did the industry ever return money for those shit 8 tracks that they sold? Or even the shit cassettes they sold? Those store bought tapes NEVER lasted long, but a good maxell made at home lasted forever? I still have cassettes I made from 1980 that play just fine. But the few store bought ones I got the cases always warped in the heat.I think I can most assuredly say that if you could shove a new caddy into a port of the computer and have it shit out a new caddy, everyone would have a new caddy and be saying fuck GM. (probably a lot of people already saying that) You don't see anyone making "illegal" copies of books and you could zerox a whole book. I'm surprise the corporate lawyers haven't tried to shut down public libraries, since they allow people to listen, read and view all copyright material without paying any fee to the owner of the copy right material. There was a point when Mickey Mouse was about to enter the public domain and Disney just couldn't let that happen, so they had congressman Sony Bono push thru a revision of the copyright laws that allowed them to keep the copyright. (see - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act ) Technically if you owned a bar, you couldn't play cd's you own there without a fee being paid to industry. CD's YOU OWN! Can you imagine if you bought a repair guide for a car you owned and you got a second car of the same make and being told you couldn't use that manual to fix the second car, that the use of the manual was only for the first car. You have that same thing with software you buy, you buy the package but can't use it where ever you want, only once (maybe 3 times for some) Sorry I've rambled a bit, but corporations piss me off. They want risk socialize and profits privatized. They want to be citizens with no one responsible for jail time. Fuck them! Record profits and the world still fights for crumbs. On the illegal front, I get a chuckle out of this. I thought it was illegal to bring "drugs" into shows or buy and sell them. Oh, I forgot nobody who went to dead shows did drugs. Like nobody in England watches Doctor Who. The show has been on for 50 years and nobody admits they watch it! Just like back in the .net days, nobody on net.dead did drugs! I must have always got seated next to the same other 2 people who did :-) Once again sorry for the excessive rambling.
February 9, 2016 - 5:20pm

#190

dharwin

Joined:
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Just to be clear...

I am fully supportive of a re-release of the FW69 box. The whole reason I have the info that I have is that (being the anal retentive completist that I am) I emailed David Lemieux to ask why in the hell the box set hadn't been reissued. Any deadhead that has looked at eBay in the last 5 years can see that this box is in absurdly high demand. I hate the idea of limited releases and find it absurd that they would limit anything. The only thing that does is drive up the price on secondary markets (just look at the 30 trips box on eBay).

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Tomorrow

Tomorrow will bring us one month away from the big box. They've got to give us something........right?

Tomorrow

Tomorrow is one month until it ships - add one week (or more depending on your location) until we have it in our grubby little hands.

Tomorrow

Does this quote feel a little like an empty promise to any one right now? " So now you have it, but you should stay tuned as we will be revealing tons of great music, artwork, and more." 12 songs hardly count as "tons if music" and I haven't seen any "art work, and more yet".

Dusty

They can't show us yet.....too many box-cutter marks.Ooops.Here's to hoping the next 30 days fly by. :)

DeadBase 50

To those who possess "The Best of the Grateful Dead Hour" did anyone notice that the rehearsal that took place at Club Front on 9/26/90 is NOT in DB 50, even though the Terrapin>Playing in the Band>Terrapin is less than 3 minutes long it would be interesting to see what other songs the boys were teaching to Bruce as you can clearly hear Jerry explaining the chord progressions during the Playing to Bruce. It is still the most interesting & unusual CD I own of any band. I have notified Stu Nixon from DeadBase & he stated he will definitely look into it, as it's obvious rehearsals did in fact take place on 9/??/90 & 9/28/90, I would presume that the rehearsal on Best of... is the one dated "9/??/90 it also seems as though Goodnight Irene was also performed. A detailed description of the CD is on page 317 of DeadBase 50. I received DeadBase 50 on Saturday & it's already worthy of the $89.99 I paid for it, it's an invaluable tool for ALL Deadheads. And yes it's on the coffee table as it has the Wife's Seal of Approval.

COUNTDOWN

30 Days until 30 Trips Around The Sun, my goal during the countdown is to call it a different name everyday, so today let's just call it 30 Trips....... And while I'm at it why not an unveiling of what to expect? I would like to know what I'm getting for my $699.98 PLUS TAX. To The Powers That Be let's make it happen. Stay cool Philly as it's going to be HOT HOT HOT in the concrete jungle. HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND

Preview of box

I tell you what powers that be... Don't worry about giving us a preview! Just ship it out 2 weeks early and I promise that I will personally take a box cutter and severely damage my copy. This should save you guys some time in the warehouse!

self-slicing

Hey Dusty. I'm one of the folks that thinks the box cutter slices are not big deal really. However, I still couldn't help laughing out loud when I read your post. The offer to self-slice in return for earlier shipping sounds fair to me :)

Well, they updated the front page........

At least we know TPTB have their lights on.. :)

Anyone? Anyone?

http://www.amazon.com/Live-Saratoga-1988-Vol-1/dp/B00UYOXW6Q/ref=sr_1_1… So... I just ran across this on Amazon. Says it's available for Pre-Order now, and ships on Sept. 18th (same date as Boxzilla). There's a Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, both of which are only available on vinyl. Anyone know anything about this? If not... there you go. I'm not a vinyl guy (anymore), but I figured that several on here are.

And just for the record...

It's a different show than the 1988 show included in Boxzilla.

Saratoga June 1988

There is also a CD set for this available and the reviews are not good. Some people on amazon stating there are soundboards out there that sound better. So, is the vinyl gonna better any better? I'll wait...this is a bootleg release, obviously, but I have a bootleg vinyl of 5/8/77 and it sounds great. So, who knows?

Come waste your (money)

At the Steve Hoffman forums folks are reporting that this label's releases are on quality vinyl, and that while they are technically not legit in the USA, they aren't bootlegs in Europe due to a quirk of EU copyright law: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/let-them-eat-vinyl-are-these-legi… Essentially, archive.org FM sources pressed to vinyl. Waste your money if you're so inclined, IMO.

Waste your money(or not)

Original boot of 8-13-75(namely the "Make Believe Ballroom"), taken from FM, goes for over $100.It has nothing to do with the material being available other places, and everything to do with collecting. I still buy original vinyl of stuff I have on CD, or even on other vinyl. Some boots have attained legendary status and have even been reissued in legit fashion, for example Dylan's Great White Hope, reissued last April for RSD.

Tons of great music, artwork and more.....

So where is it? We have had 4 listening parties and that is it. Is that really "tons" of music? Dont say things like this if you have no plans to actually do it.

Two Arrivals in One Day

Got my Deadbase 50 today,,, it's a big book, I'll skim through it, but most data lookups I'll still do online. I got it just to have it. Even better get was Road Trips Volume 1 Number 2,, the man wasn't lying, it came with the bonus disc! I called the help desk to verify if it came that way and they couldn't tell, ordered it on word of someone out there, THANKS. I don't know if they have any more, but if you don't have and would like, maybe you should order one. It temps me to try buying the last few the of the RT they say aren't sold out to see if I can get lucky twice.

DeadBase folks

thanks to you from the Rex Foundation, which continues to get a portion of the proceeds from each copy!

O.K....

I'm ready for this box-set!........Great way to start the fall....I'm going to listen from start to finish in order and listen to the evolution of the band...Sounds good... I'm ready for this box-set!......

Clear the Skids

Oh man, I gotta get busy. I still have the final 2 1/2 Spring 90 TOO shows to get through before 30 Trips arrives. Then I'll get to about a show a week for -- 30 weeks! I'm definitely going to listen chronologically. Finished the S90 Branford show last night. Best thing about it: Branford. Dude has uncanny skills. Then I jump back to finish Show 5 tonight. Shows 7 & 8 are last. I hope they are as good as the best ones on the tour. I find them hit or miss, but the hits are marvelous.

Where's the reveal????

It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......

Where's the reveal????

COUNTDOWN

29 days until TPTB start shipping MEGA BOX.

I have it from a valid source...

I have it from a valid source that they are going to deliver the box sets using same trucks that carried the Wall of Sound. The size and weight were an exact match! I would like a sneak peek, though, if possible. Not to defend them, but I recall a similar intent to show us what's in the box before E72 shipped and they just ran out of time.

Sneak Peak

I seem to remember TPTB showing an illustration of the E72 box with compartments etc. which led many people to believe there would be more *swag*. When there wasn't said *swag* TPTB got a lot of grief as I recall. Personally, just gimme the damn MUSIC. I don't need replica backstage passes (I needed them when the show happened!) or floor plans for the hockey arenas they played. Just…the…MUSIC.

Boxzilla Accoutrements/Extras

I don't mean to downplay anyone's enjoyment of the extras but I always ask myself… If they give me extras, will I enjoy the music more? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. I'll checkout the extras once, maybe twice but that's it. If they don't give me extras will it lessen my enjoyment? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. In summation: Extras = Overjoyed No Extras = Overjoyed Looks like the "Overjoyeds" have it!

...great..

The next thing you are going to tell is the big Steelie I got tattooed on my forehead yesterday was a waste of money and makes me no more fun to hang with than the boring terd I was last week. This is going to be a long month.

Stealie Tattoo

It's never a waste of money…tattoo = extra = overjoyed! The month will fly by (I find the older I get, the faster it goes). I plan on listening to 11/2/77 AGAIN today (it's the first and only time I've listened to the same show more than 3 times in 1 week) and for the rest of time I'll be dipping deep into the Dead well.

At the end of the day, it's always about the music

But the extras are always a huge plus! I loved the WUTFO artwork from Spring 90 TOO. I got it framed and it looks beautiful. The essays and photos are great at accentuating the music.

Forehead Stealie tattoo

Damn, Jim, that's hardcore! And I thought my tattoo was daring...dancing bears tramp-stamped across the small of my back.

Re: Steelie

Good idea, Tramp Stamp.. wish I would have thought of that...

"Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!"

I am all about the extras. The more liner notes, the better. Cool trinkets? Yes please. That's what makes buying the box more worth the money than just getting a USB in the mail.

wissinomingdeadhead , interesting observation, is 5.28.76 there?

this date is a rehearsal, but the "Attics of My Life" is one to absorb.. **Killer Combo Alert** 4.11.89 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago IL Little Red Rooster ; Friend of the Devil

here is some rehearsal with Bruce ,, dated 9.28.90

https://archive.org/details/gd90-09-28.sbd.jeffm.13531.sbeok.shnf

@mbarilla

The only "Attics" listed is dated 5-17-76 Aces, Mill Valley, CA it appears to be the only song that was rehearsed. The only item listed for 5-28-76 is; 5-28-76 Orpheum Theater, San Francisco, CA Change venue to Orpheum All of the above information is on page 53 of DeadBase 50.

DeadBase50 confusion exhibit A

If you flip to the DeadBase XI section wissinoming you will see that indeed the fantastic Attics mbarilla is speaking of was indeed played (3X) the sole correction made to that entry in DeadBase50 is to omit 'Theatre' from the original entry. Why they did not use OCR software is beyond me.

Palpable excitement...

...I sit with DB50 open to pg.314 of XI, on which you'll find the '81 NYE review by our own MaryE; which leads me to my request for help: could anyone seed the Tobin 12/31/81 recording over on LL? If its any incentive, I'm currently seeding Floyd from 9/30/71 (BBC archives) as well as the Miller SBD from one of the GOGD's peak nights during the near-uniformly awesome year of '77 - 10/29/77 (remember our discussion back on The Eleven?!)/thanks for any assistance, K

Mbarilla.....

....that Hornsby practice is priceless!! Jerry says "cheeseburger for Phil" at one point during the Saint intro. WTF does that mean? Lol. Bruce caught on quick, as did Vince. Six weeks of practice and they churned out the '90 Europe tour?! Incredible. Jerry seems to come across as a kindred soul to have met. Wish I would have been able to.... ....oh. Hi Kate! ....wait. Garcia loved cheeseburgers, as the story goes. Maybe they just had Burger King deliver some Whoppers!...

Then....

....Bobby says "I can't play it if I think too hard about it". Phil responds with "Then stop making it harder than it has to be!" Sorry for the play by play, but this is funny shit. Check it out. The link is like five posts below.... ...Jerry chimes in with "It doesn't matter" a couple of times. Figures....

Extras

The box has (as stated) a 288 page book. I'm for any liner notes or any essays/evaluations of the shows from those in the know. I'm also for any posters, handbills or photos that are relevant to a given show. The Spring '90 box had a book, program, and poster (all welcome) but it also had replica backstage passes, replica concert ticket stubs, and hockey arena floor plans, that not only increased the price of the box but to me, seemed utterly useless. I needed all that when the shows happened not 20+ years after the fact. We are a diverse lot, each of us a world unto ourself. The bottom line is in 5 weeks we'll have the Mother-Of-All-Box Sets in our hands and regardless of the extras ALL WILL BE GOOD…...until the next box set! (HaHa)

Countdown

28 days until Tyrannosaurus Box ships.

Bonus disc?

I don't suppose a bonus disc will accompany boxzilla or the 4cd? Or could there be?

Bonus disc

I don't think there is any chance of a bonus disc. Otherwise it would have been announced to push presales.

bonus disc

I don't think a bonus disc is likely, but for $700, we should get a bonus show on DVD or something. Maybe just put the 3/23/75 and 6/17/75 shows as a bonus, that way, all of 1975 will have been released. If they could put bonus discs on Winterland '73 and '77, why haven't they included them on subsequent box sets?

I am still trying to figure

I am still trying to figure out how these are all "tent pole" shows. If that were the case wouldn't 5-7-77 or 5-8-77 be in this box? 4-25-77 maybe great for all I know but I guess we shall see.

Tent poles

The blurb states, "We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent."

Tent poles

Regarding 5/7/77 and 5/8/77, unless things have changed, the master reels for those shows are not in the Vault; this is why they haven't been released yet. This is true for many other shows, including 5/9/77 as well. They know who has the master reels for those three shows. The physical tapes actually belonged to Betty Cantor (formerly Betty Cantor-Jackson), but when payments were not kept up on the storage locker the tapes were stored in, the entire contents of the locker were auctioned off. So, the purchaser legally owns the tapes, but not the actual music - so he cannot commercially release that material either. I believe he wants a substantial amount of money for the return of those tapes. Up until now, GD have been unwilling to pay for what they think should be returned to them. But, you never know.

I agree

wjonjd - never trust a prankster. All good things in all good time. (I know - phraaaaase dropper!)

Hi Vg!

...and thank you to my torrent angel!/peace, K

Also...

... if they released Boxzilla with 5/8/77 on it, limiting it to 6500 copies and forcing people to buy a 700 dollar box to get it, well... it would kinda be like releasing 9/28/75 that way, hahahahahhahaHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaagh. I'm okay. "Scarlet>Fire from 11/1/79, take me away."

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