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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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    USB 500/1000 arrived yesterday. The bolt feels/ looks good, but information is really lacking on song order and downloading into iTunes. I just found this online - a message I never received from customer service. The two links below are for song order - in a PDF or Excel format/ Hope this helps: --------------- Dear customer, We hope by now you are thoroughly enjoying your 30 Trips collection. Here are a few helpful hints to help you along the way. Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program: On Windows - Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run. On MacOS - Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run. Viewing the digital book: You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly. To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a "single page" might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document. Importing music into iTunes and other library programs: When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order. PDF: www.dead.net/sites/default/files/30-trips-songs-in-show-order.pdf.zip Text: www.dead.net/sites/default/files/30-trips-list-of-mp3s.csv.zip (may be helpful if creating a script)
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    Bolo you are too funny
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    I'm in. When can I get started on the vineyard?
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    Just my opinion:Background info: i saw all my shows in the eighties and nineties, but my favorite years for listenig are 69 to 78 . 67,68,69 and 70 from the box are mind blowing!!! 71, I found to be very average.....sick caution jam yes, but the preceding gdtrfb and nfa away were not that good especially when compared to others from that year. 72,73,74 and 75 , all very good shows 76 didnt do it for me. 77,78,79 and 80 all very nice shows. 81,82,83,84 and85 are all good shows but the sound quality takes away from the enjoyment, especially 81 as the sound limps out of my speakers, crawls across the floor and then hides under the couch before it gets tome. I dont want anymore 80s shows if this is how its going to sound. 86 boo. 87 love that second set. 88 ok. I was there, Dave picked the wrong night. 89 didnt do mUch for me. 90 liked it 91 probably in the minority, but this and nassauwith Branford dont exite me. The rest were fair, with 94 at the top of those. Thanks to Dave and Rhinofor all the release. PLEASE RELEASE THE ARK 69 as a nice tidy little box set!
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    Easy there, Jimbo
    The water is being procured for our new Deadhead settlement, Dito Mancante, which is a lovely island oasis located near the heel of Italy's boot. I purchased the island with the leftover proceeds from the never-realized "Terrapin Station" complex that we all paid for. Since water will soon be worth more than crude oil, I have hired General Lyuben Gocev and his Bulgarian mafia to protect our shipments from the Jordan. He will also serve as Director of Lawn Games at our new home.
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    I must have confused you with my other Vegas friend. ..but what you say? That news of energy legislation shenanigans makes my brain hurt.
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    Sorry :( ....
    ....no swimming pools or tigers in my backyard, but I do have a couple of goldfish!! Namely Mickey & Bill. Does that count? ....on a more depressing note, my lovely Nevadan legislation recently slapped the solar industry here with a 40% tax hike, basically shutting them down. Looks like NVEnergy gets to keep that monopoly. Thousands of jobs lost between two huge solar companies here. Also effects home owners that went solar on their roofs to save money and the environment. And get this. The hike is retroactive. Ahhhh....the American Dream. Hard to get that these days it seems....
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    Great story, Dantian. ..but the mighty Jordan was likely mightier a couple hundred (or a thousand) years ago before developments and cities got big over there. I'm sure the time of the year matters too. The mighty Colorado doesn't even make it to the Gulf of California in Mexico anymore.. Most of it flows to Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Phoenix now. VGuy alone is rumored to have several dozen swimming pools and a Bengal tiger. Anyway.. great song and great to see Road Trips 3.3 get some love. Great release and furthers my desire to organize a coups d'état and take back the vault. If there is any decent 1970 left in the vault it needs to be heard. Brother wjon should be just about finished with the tunnel he is building in Burbank. We still need some fast, nimble heavy machinery to pull this off. I am meeting the Sean Penn next week, he should be able to help. ________________________________ Edit: From Wikipedia "In modern times, the (Jordan) waters are 70% to 90% used for human purposes and the flow is greatly reduced. In 1964, Israel began operating a pumping station that diverts water from the Sea of Galilee to the National Water Carrier. Also in 1964, Jordan constructed a channel that diverted water from the Yarmouk River, another main tributary of the Jordan River to the East Ghor Canal. Syria has also built reservoirs that catch the Yarmouk's waters. Environmentalists blame Israel, Jordan and Syria for extensive damage to the Jordan River ecosystem. The flow rate of the Jordan River once was 1.3 billion cubic metres per year; as of 2010, just 20 to 30 million cubic metres per year flow into the Dead Sea." Desert dwellers love water. Environmentalists blame Israel, Jordan and Syria. I blame Bolo.
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    as one who has actually physically been in the Jordan river in this lifetime. I can tell you, though it might sometimes be a bit chilly, I can honestly say that it is neither deep nor wide...little more than what we here in the USA might call a "creek" in some places, in fact. That cold spring in the Golan Heights, on the other hand, was so damned cold it stole my breath away and almost gave me a freakin' heart attack...in the arms of a statuesque blond (my girlfriend's older sister!) who almost drowned me with her spontaneous hugs in the frigid waters. Ahhh...memories. Great song, though, "Cold Jordan."
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    Road Trips at reasonable $$$
    Have you guys tried Discogs? I've scored some rare Dead there for a comparatively reasonable price (at least compared to e-bay/amazon) for some RT and rarer Dead. You'll have to put it on a wishlist and wait, most likely. And beware as some sellers aren't familiar with the bonus disc/non bonus disc in the titles, but if you ask you'll get a response. But for my money, RT 3.3 is the best 1970 release out there. Way better than DP8 or DP4, even. Yes, missing the Candyman from the 2nd show, but still, really strong. Amazing sounding. Only other RT that comes close is Denver + the 2011 subscription disc (also a 3+1 situation).
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
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Tomorrow will bring us one month away from the big box. They've got to give us something........right?
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Tomorrow is one month until it ships - add one week (or more depending on your location) until we have it in our grubby little hands.
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Does this quote feel a little like an empty promise to any one right now? " So now you have it, but you should stay tuned as we will be revealing tons of great music, artwork, and more." 12 songs hardly count as "tons if music" and I haven't seen any "art work, and more yet".
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They can't show us yet.....too many box-cutter marks.Ooops.Here's to hoping the next 30 days fly by. :)
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To those who possess "The Best of the Grateful Dead Hour" did anyone notice that the rehearsal that took place at Club Front on 9/26/90 is NOT in DB 50, even though the Terrapin>Playing in the Band>Terrapin is less than 3 minutes long it would be interesting to see what other songs the boys were teaching to Bruce as you can clearly hear Jerry explaining the chord progressions during the Playing to Bruce. It is still the most interesting & unusual CD I own of any band. I have notified Stu Nixon from DeadBase & he stated he will definitely look into it, as it's obvious rehearsals did in fact take place on 9/??/90 & 9/28/90, I would presume that the rehearsal on Best of... is the one dated "9/??/90 it also seems as though Goodnight Irene was also performed. A detailed description of the CD is on page 317 of DeadBase 50. I received DeadBase 50 on Saturday & it's already worthy of the $89.99 I paid for it, it's an invaluable tool for ALL Deadheads. And yes it's on the coffee table as it has the Wife's Seal of Approval.
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30 Days until 30 Trips Around The Sun, my goal during the countdown is to call it a different name everyday, so today let's just call it 30 Trips....... And while I'm at it why not an unveiling of what to expect? I would like to know what I'm getting for my $699.98 PLUS TAX. To The Powers That Be let's make it happen. Stay cool Philly as it's going to be HOT HOT HOT in the concrete jungle. HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND
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I tell you what powers that be... Don't worry about giving us a preview! Just ship it out 2 weeks early and I promise that I will personally take a box cutter and severely damage my copy. This should save you guys some time in the warehouse!
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Hey Dusty. I'm one of the folks that thinks the box cutter slices are not big deal really. However, I still couldn't help laughing out loud when I read your post. The offer to self-slice in return for earlier shipping sounds fair to me :)
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http://www.amazon.com/Live-Saratoga-1988-Vol-1/dp/B00UYOXW6Q/ref=sr_1_1… So... I just ran across this on Amazon. Says it's available for Pre-Order now, and ships on Sept. 18th (same date as Boxzilla). There's a Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, both of which are only available on vinyl. Anyone know anything about this? If not... there you go. I'm not a vinyl guy (anymore), but I figured that several on here are.
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There is also a CD set for this available and the reviews are not good. Some people on amazon stating there are soundboards out there that sound better. So, is the vinyl gonna better any better? I'll wait...this is a bootleg release, obviously, but I have a bootleg vinyl of 5/8/77 and it sounds great. So, who knows?
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At the Steve Hoffman forums folks are reporting that this label's releases are on quality vinyl, and that while they are technically not legit in the USA, they aren't bootlegs in Europe due to a quirk of EU copyright law: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/let-them-eat-vinyl-are-these-legi… Essentially, archive.org FM sources pressed to vinyl. Waste your money if you're so inclined, IMO.
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Original boot of 8-13-75(namely the "Make Believe Ballroom"), taken from FM, goes for over $100.It has nothing to do with the material being available other places, and everything to do with collecting. I still buy original vinyl of stuff I have on CD, or even on other vinyl. Some boots have attained legendary status and have even been reissued in legit fashion, for example Dylan's Great White Hope, reissued last April for RSD.
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So where is it? We have had 4 listening parties and that is it. Is that really "tons" of music? Dont say things like this if you have no plans to actually do it.
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Got my Deadbase 50 today,,, it's a big book, I'll skim through it, but most data lookups I'll still do online. I got it just to have it. Even better get was Road Trips Volume 1 Number 2,, the man wasn't lying, it came with the bonus disc! I called the help desk to verify if it came that way and they couldn't tell, ordered it on word of someone out there, THANKS. I don't know if they have any more, but if you don't have and would like, maybe you should order one. It temps me to try buying the last few the of the RT they say aren't sold out to see if I can get lucky twice.
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thanks to you from the Rex Foundation, which continues to get a portion of the proceeds from each copy!
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I'm ready for this box-set!........Great way to start the fall....I'm going to listen from start to finish in order and listen to the evolution of the band...Sounds good... I'm ready for this box-set!......
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Oh man, I gotta get busy. I still have the final 2 1/2 Spring 90 TOO shows to get through before 30 Trips arrives. Then I'll get to about a show a week for -- 30 weeks! I'm definitely going to listen chronologically. Finished the S90 Branford show last night. Best thing about it: Branford. Dude has uncanny skills. Then I jump back to finish Show 5 tonight. Shows 7 & 8 are last. I hope they are as good as the best ones on the tour. I find them hit or miss, but the hits are marvelous.
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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29 days until TPTB start shipping MEGA BOX.
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I have it from a valid source that they are going to deliver the box sets using same trucks that carried the Wall of Sound. The size and weight were an exact match! I would like a sneak peek, though, if possible. Not to defend them, but I recall a similar intent to show us what's in the box before E72 shipped and they just ran out of time.
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I seem to remember TPTB showing an illustration of the E72 box with compartments etc. which led many people to believe there would be more *swag*. When there wasn't said *swag* TPTB got a lot of grief as I recall. Personally, just gimme the damn MUSIC. I don't need replica backstage passes (I needed them when the show happened!) or floor plans for the hockey arenas they played. Just…the…MUSIC.
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I don't mean to downplay anyone's enjoyment of the extras but I always ask myself… If they give me extras, will I enjoy the music more? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. I'll checkout the extras once, maybe twice but that's it. If they don't give me extras will it lessen my enjoyment? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. In summation: Extras = Overjoyed No Extras = Overjoyed Looks like the "Overjoyeds" have it!
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The next thing you are going to tell is the big Steelie I got tattooed on my forehead yesterday was a waste of money and makes me no more fun to hang with than the boring terd I was last week. This is going to be a long month.
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It's never a waste of money…tattoo = extra = overjoyed! The month will fly by (I find the older I get, the faster it goes). I plan on listening to 11/2/77 AGAIN today (it's the first and only time I've listened to the same show more than 3 times in 1 week) and for the rest of time I'll be dipping deep into the Dead well.
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But the extras are always a huge plus! I loved the WUTFO artwork from Spring 90 TOO. I got it framed and it looks beautiful. The essays and photos are great at accentuating the music.
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Damn, Jim, that's hardcore! And I thought my tattoo was daring...dancing bears tramp-stamped across the small of my back.
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Good idea, Tramp Stamp.. wish I would have thought of that...
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I am all about the extras. The more liner notes, the better. Cool trinkets? Yes please. That's what makes buying the box more worth the money than just getting a USB in the mail.
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The only "Attics" listed is dated 5-17-76 Aces, Mill Valley, CA it appears to be the only song that was rehearsed. The only item listed for 5-28-76 is; 5-28-76 Orpheum Theater, San Francisco, CA Change venue to Orpheum All of the above information is on page 53 of DeadBase 50.
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If you flip to the DeadBase XI section wissinoming you will see that indeed the fantastic Attics mbarilla is speaking of was indeed played (3X) the sole correction made to that entry in DeadBase50 is to omit 'Theatre' from the original entry. Why they did not use OCR software is beyond me.
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...I sit with DB50 open to pg.314 of XI, on which you'll find the '81 NYE review by our own MaryE; which leads me to my request for help: could anyone seed the Tobin 12/31/81 recording over on LL? If its any incentive, I'm currently seeding Floyd from 9/30/71 (BBC archives) as well as the Miller SBD from one of the GOGD's peak nights during the near-uniformly awesome year of '77 - 10/29/77 (remember our discussion back on The Eleven?!)/thanks for any assistance, K
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....that Hornsby practice is priceless!! Jerry says "cheeseburger for Phil" at one point during the Saint intro. WTF does that mean? Lol. Bruce caught on quick, as did Vince. Six weeks of practice and they churned out the '90 Europe tour?! Incredible. Jerry seems to come across as a kindred soul to have met. Wish I would have been able to.... ....oh. Hi Kate! ....wait. Garcia loved cheeseburgers, as the story goes. Maybe they just had Burger King deliver some Whoppers!...
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....Bobby says "I can't play it if I think too hard about it". Phil responds with "Then stop making it harder than it has to be!" Sorry for the play by play, but this is funny shit. Check it out. The link is like five posts below.... ...Jerry chimes in with "It doesn't matter" a couple of times. Figures....
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The box has (as stated) a 288 page book. I'm for any liner notes or any essays/evaluations of the shows from those in the know. I'm also for any posters, handbills or photos that are relevant to a given show. The Spring '90 box had a book, program, and poster (all welcome) but it also had replica backstage passes, replica concert ticket stubs, and hockey arena floor plans, that not only increased the price of the box but to me, seemed utterly useless. I needed all that when the shows happened not 20+ years after the fact. We are a diverse lot, each of us a world unto ourself. The bottom line is in 5 weeks we'll have the Mother-Of-All-Box Sets in our hands and regardless of the extras ALL WILL BE GOOD…...until the next box set! (HaHa)
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28 days until Tyrannosaurus Box ships.
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I don't suppose a bonus disc will accompany boxzilla or the 4cd? Or could there be?
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I don't think there is any chance of a bonus disc. Otherwise it would have been announced to push presales.
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I don't think a bonus disc is likely, but for $700, we should get a bonus show on DVD or something. Maybe just put the 3/23/75 and 6/17/75 shows as a bonus, that way, all of 1975 will have been released. If they could put bonus discs on Winterland '73 and '77, why haven't they included them on subsequent box sets?
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I am still trying to figure out how these are all "tent pole" shows. If that were the case wouldn't 5-7-77 or 5-8-77 be in this box? 4-25-77 maybe great for all I know but I guess we shall see.
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The blurb states, "We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent."
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Regarding 5/7/77 and 5/8/77, unless things have changed, the master reels for those shows are not in the Vault; this is why they haven't been released yet. This is true for many other shows, including 5/9/77 as well. They know who has the master reels for those three shows. The physical tapes actually belonged to Betty Cantor (formerly Betty Cantor-Jackson), but when payments were not kept up on the storage locker the tapes were stored in, the entire contents of the locker were auctioned off. So, the purchaser legally owns the tapes, but not the actual music - so he cannot commercially release that material either. I believe he wants a substantial amount of money for the return of those tapes. Up until now, GD have been unwilling to pay for what they think should be returned to them. But, you never know.
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wjonjd - never trust a prankster. All good things in all good time. (I know - phraaaaase dropper!)
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...and thank you to my torrent angel!/peace, K
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... if they released Boxzilla with 5/8/77 on it, limiting it to 6500 copies and forcing people to buy a 700 dollar box to get it, well... it would kinda be like releasing 9/28/75 that way, hahahahahhahaHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaagh. I'm okay. "Scarlet>Fire from 11/1/79, take me away."
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27 days until Super Box!! HAPPY FRIDAY, DEADLAND, So glad WE made it!!!!!!!!!
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