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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • Vguy72
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    I paid this box off last month....
    ....and it wasn't too painful. The band-aid came off relatively quickly, and now I can bask in all it's (faux) wood glory, paid in full. Totally worth it. 1970, 1994 and 1976 have rotated at least five times. Checking out 1990 tonight. Vince and Bruce didn't miss a beat....
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    I agree with Hbob this is a thing of beauty - listening to '87 now but it was hard choosing. '67 Shrine is through the roof, I particularly like BW & BK's playing on it. JG's solo is perfection. And that's the thing about this box set…magic and surprise at every turn even though some of us have been listening for years. I'm still amazed!
  • JimInMD
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    Agree with the recent comments.. this is the gift that keeps on giving. An amazing amount of music that this listener has not yet wrapped his brain around. It does look like there is an even dozen USB's left. oh.. and Keithfan, I like your answer to 'Why is it so Fast!?' the honest answer would have been Too Much Coke, but why tarnish such a young brain with the bitter truth. I laughed when I read that.. oh.. and RDevil, I have been on a sequential trip and like I previously posted.. I blew out the JBL's in my car on the Shrine. It is that good.. and no response from Phil on replacing my speakers even though we all know it was his fault!
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    re: Boston '91 Box...agreed!
    Kayak Guy, I wholeheartedly agree on these Boston Garden run of shows in fall 1991. they were all excellent with Bruce in top form and each night has something special to offer. DP 17 is a prime example and I'd love to see the entire run get a similar formal release treatment. One of my favorite segments from the entire run is from the second night, the Eyes of the World that's followed by all the boys leaving the stage except Bruce Mickey and Billy and it's a very fun romp for several minutes. Part of the magic addition of Bruce in my opinion. You select some great shows. Agreeably, Sixtus
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    I too couldn't afford E72 when it came out. It took me about about a week to come to that realization. It was just too hard to justify at the time, being in school and not working. It wasn't too long after that when the Dave's Picks Series started. I feel really lucky looking back now remembering how I barely had enough for the 1st years subscription. If I had bought the E72 box I probably wouldn't have joined the Dave's Picks club. And now the E72 shows are available individually (which I have about 8 of). So, everything has really worked out.
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    I have to agree with Mustin321. This box alone contains enough great music to carry me for a long time. Don't get me wrong, after going through the whole box once, I am now mixing in more listens to each show, along with other Dead shows from other releases. Many of those from suggestions heard here, such as Go To Nassau, DaP17 and a lot of '74 shows. I think the box really shows off the 80's & 90's in a good light. Those shows sparkle with electricity and energy. For those of you who could not spring for the $700, I feel your pain. I could not swing the E'72 box at the time of its release, and while that was also true of this one, I just could not pass this up this time. I would have to kick my butt with both feet which would be tough! If you poke around on ebay, you can pick up single shows for decent prices. Of course the whole box set is available there also, but they are all pretty pricey. I have shown this box to my kids and told them what a thing of beauty it is, both outside & inside. A true family heirloom I hope! Rock on
  • mustin321
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    Finally finished listening to all the shows. This box set is absolutely incredible. So much good music, so many years. Some shows that stand out to me are 67 (obviously), 77, 89, & 92 (favorite from each decade). The best thing about this box is the later years, in my opinion. All the people that complain not getting anything but the 70's...this is the one. Don't get me wrong. All of the 70's shows are really great, but none really stood out that much to me, I assume, because I've heard so much more from that decade. 85 & 86 are really great shows that sound very similar to anything from the late 70's (besides the keyboard), in my opinion. Besides 67, the 89 show is probably my favorite show in the box...a 29 minute Dark Star in the 80's...not too many others out there and the ones I've heard aren't as weird and spacey as this one. And the 92 show...just surprising all around. I made sure not to look at any of the setlists before listening to any of these shows...so, my mind was pretty blown when they unleashed a Dark Star>The Other One>Standing on the Moon>Lovelight...and it was all just crackling with energy. Really the only show that wasn't outstanding in the box was the 95 show. Lots of good moments, but just not quite the same energy level. I think that show, for just the sake of shows, is a really good one and if I were there, I'm sure I would've had a blast. It just goes to show how great this band really was and It's amazing to think how great they played only a few months before in the 94 show...which is right up there with 92, and 93 for that matter. It must have been incredible traveling around seeing shows in the 90's and then getting something like 10/1/94...ahh, the legend continue...the whole show is great but the H>S>F opener is just exactly perfect...as good as ever really. We could all probably say that this set is enough to last a lifetime, but I guess we wouldn't be true Deadheads if we didn't wish for more. thank you to all who made this box set possible
  • rdevil
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    I've been saving this one for awhile and finally listened to it over the holiday weekend.Daaaaaamn! The inclusion of this show in the box tells me that Dave and company really took this project seriously (master of the obvious, yes). But this sounds so damn good it easily could have been a stand alone show like the Vault series or like To Terrapin or Sunshine Daydream. Yeah, there may be a show or two in the box that might not have seen release otherwise, but there are a ton of gems included and this is certainly one of many. If it's true that the USBs are close to selling out do yourself a favor and buy it. I almost didn't get the box but it is so worth it.
  • KeithFan2112
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    Eyes of the World was cranked up, and my 9 year old asked, "why is it so fast?!?" "Because it's 1978" I replied...
  • Syracuse78
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    Not to talk about the box being offered here, but...
    First time here in a while. Just for fun, I tried "ordering" a bunch of flash drives and it would only let me order 12. I hope for their sake they are about to sell this out. Personally, I'm only up to 1973 in my listening. Hate to say it, but kinda burned out on the GD recently. I'll get it back. :)
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Tomorrow will bring us one month away from the big box. They've got to give us something........right?
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Tomorrow is one month until it ships - add one week (or more depending on your location) until we have it in our grubby little hands.
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Does this quote feel a little like an empty promise to any one right now? " So now you have it, but you should stay tuned as we will be revealing tons of great music, artwork, and more." 12 songs hardly count as "tons if music" and I haven't seen any "art work, and more yet".
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They can't show us yet.....too many box-cutter marks.Ooops.Here's to hoping the next 30 days fly by. :)
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To those who possess "The Best of the Grateful Dead Hour" did anyone notice that the rehearsal that took place at Club Front on 9/26/90 is NOT in DB 50, even though the Terrapin>Playing in the Band>Terrapin is less than 3 minutes long it would be interesting to see what other songs the boys were teaching to Bruce as you can clearly hear Jerry explaining the chord progressions during the Playing to Bruce. It is still the most interesting & unusual CD I own of any band. I have notified Stu Nixon from DeadBase & he stated he will definitely look into it, as it's obvious rehearsals did in fact take place on 9/??/90 & 9/28/90, I would presume that the rehearsal on Best of... is the one dated "9/??/90 it also seems as though Goodnight Irene was also performed. A detailed description of the CD is on page 317 of DeadBase 50. I received DeadBase 50 on Saturday & it's already worthy of the $89.99 I paid for it, it's an invaluable tool for ALL Deadheads. And yes it's on the coffee table as it has the Wife's Seal of Approval.
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30 Days until 30 Trips Around The Sun, my goal during the countdown is to call it a different name everyday, so today let's just call it 30 Trips....... And while I'm at it why not an unveiling of what to expect? I would like to know what I'm getting for my $699.98 PLUS TAX. To The Powers That Be let's make it happen. Stay cool Philly as it's going to be HOT HOT HOT in the concrete jungle. HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND
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I tell you what powers that be... Don't worry about giving us a preview! Just ship it out 2 weeks early and I promise that I will personally take a box cutter and severely damage my copy. This should save you guys some time in the warehouse!
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Hey Dusty. I'm one of the folks that thinks the box cutter slices are not big deal really. However, I still couldn't help laughing out loud when I read your post. The offer to self-slice in return for earlier shipping sounds fair to me :)
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http://www.amazon.com/Live-Saratoga-1988-Vol-1/dp/B00UYOXW6Q/ref=sr_1_1… So... I just ran across this on Amazon. Says it's available for Pre-Order now, and ships on Sept. 18th (same date as Boxzilla). There's a Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, both of which are only available on vinyl. Anyone know anything about this? If not... there you go. I'm not a vinyl guy (anymore), but I figured that several on here are.
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There is also a CD set for this available and the reviews are not good. Some people on amazon stating there are soundboards out there that sound better. So, is the vinyl gonna better any better? I'll wait...this is a bootleg release, obviously, but I have a bootleg vinyl of 5/8/77 and it sounds great. So, who knows?
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At the Steve Hoffman forums folks are reporting that this label's releases are on quality vinyl, and that while they are technically not legit in the USA, they aren't bootlegs in Europe due to a quirk of EU copyright law: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/let-them-eat-vinyl-are-these-legi… Essentially, archive.org FM sources pressed to vinyl. Waste your money if you're so inclined, IMO.
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Original boot of 8-13-75(namely the "Make Believe Ballroom"), taken from FM, goes for over $100.It has nothing to do with the material being available other places, and everything to do with collecting. I still buy original vinyl of stuff I have on CD, or even on other vinyl. Some boots have attained legendary status and have even been reissued in legit fashion, for example Dylan's Great White Hope, reissued last April for RSD.
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So where is it? We have had 4 listening parties and that is it. Is that really "tons" of music? Dont say things like this if you have no plans to actually do it.
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Got my Deadbase 50 today,,, it's a big book, I'll skim through it, but most data lookups I'll still do online. I got it just to have it. Even better get was Road Trips Volume 1 Number 2,, the man wasn't lying, it came with the bonus disc! I called the help desk to verify if it came that way and they couldn't tell, ordered it on word of someone out there, THANKS. I don't know if they have any more, but if you don't have and would like, maybe you should order one. It temps me to try buying the last few the of the RT they say aren't sold out to see if I can get lucky twice.
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thanks to you from the Rex Foundation, which continues to get a portion of the proceeds from each copy!
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I'm ready for this box-set!........Great way to start the fall....I'm going to listen from start to finish in order and listen to the evolution of the band...Sounds good... I'm ready for this box-set!......
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Oh man, I gotta get busy. I still have the final 2 1/2 Spring 90 TOO shows to get through before 30 Trips arrives. Then I'll get to about a show a week for -- 30 weeks! I'm definitely going to listen chronologically. Finished the S90 Branford show last night. Best thing about it: Branford. Dude has uncanny skills. Then I jump back to finish Show 5 tonight. Shows 7 & 8 are last. I hope they are as good as the best ones on the tour. I find them hit or miss, but the hits are marvelous.
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......
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29 days until TPTB start shipping MEGA BOX.
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I have it from a valid source that they are going to deliver the box sets using same trucks that carried the Wall of Sound. The size and weight were an exact match! I would like a sneak peek, though, if possible. Not to defend them, but I recall a similar intent to show us what's in the box before E72 shipped and they just ran out of time.
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I seem to remember TPTB showing an illustration of the E72 box with compartments etc. which led many people to believe there would be more *swag*. When there wasn't said *swag* TPTB got a lot of grief as I recall. Personally, just gimme the damn MUSIC. I don't need replica backstage passes (I needed them when the show happened!) or floor plans for the hockey arenas they played. Just…the…MUSIC.
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I don't mean to downplay anyone's enjoyment of the extras but I always ask myself… If they give me extras, will I enjoy the music more? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. I'll checkout the extras once, maybe twice but that's it. If they don't give me extras will it lessen my enjoyment? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. In summation: Extras = Overjoyed No Extras = Overjoyed Looks like the "Overjoyeds" have it!
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The next thing you are going to tell is the big Steelie I got tattooed on my forehead yesterday was a waste of money and makes me no more fun to hang with than the boring terd I was last week. This is going to be a long month.
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It's never a waste of money…tattoo = extra = overjoyed! The month will fly by (I find the older I get, the faster it goes). I plan on listening to 11/2/77 AGAIN today (it's the first and only time I've listened to the same show more than 3 times in 1 week) and for the rest of time I'll be dipping deep into the Dead well.
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But the extras are always a huge plus! I loved the WUTFO artwork from Spring 90 TOO. I got it framed and it looks beautiful. The essays and photos are great at accentuating the music.
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Damn, Jim, that's hardcore! And I thought my tattoo was daring...dancing bears tramp-stamped across the small of my back.
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Good idea, Tramp Stamp.. wish I would have thought of that...
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I am all about the extras. The more liner notes, the better. Cool trinkets? Yes please. That's what makes buying the box more worth the money than just getting a USB in the mail.
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The only "Attics" listed is dated 5-17-76 Aces, Mill Valley, CA it appears to be the only song that was rehearsed. The only item listed for 5-28-76 is; 5-28-76 Orpheum Theater, San Francisco, CA Change venue to Orpheum All of the above information is on page 53 of DeadBase 50.
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If you flip to the DeadBase XI section wissinoming you will see that indeed the fantastic Attics mbarilla is speaking of was indeed played (3X) the sole correction made to that entry in DeadBase50 is to omit 'Theatre' from the original entry. Why they did not use OCR software is beyond me.
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...I sit with DB50 open to pg.314 of XI, on which you'll find the '81 NYE review by our own MaryE; which leads me to my request for help: could anyone seed the Tobin 12/31/81 recording over on LL? If its any incentive, I'm currently seeding Floyd from 9/30/71 (BBC archives) as well as the Miller SBD from one of the GOGD's peak nights during the near-uniformly awesome year of '77 - 10/29/77 (remember our discussion back on The Eleven?!)/thanks for any assistance, K
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....that Hornsby practice is priceless!! Jerry says "cheeseburger for Phil" at one point during the Saint intro. WTF does that mean? Lol. Bruce caught on quick, as did Vince. Six weeks of practice and they churned out the '90 Europe tour?! Incredible. Jerry seems to come across as a kindred soul to have met. Wish I would have been able to.... ....oh. Hi Kate! ....wait. Garcia loved cheeseburgers, as the story goes. Maybe they just had Burger King deliver some Whoppers!...
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....Bobby says "I can't play it if I think too hard about it". Phil responds with "Then stop making it harder than it has to be!" Sorry for the play by play, but this is funny shit. Check it out. The link is like five posts below.... ...Jerry chimes in with "It doesn't matter" a couple of times. Figures....
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The box has (as stated) a 288 page book. I'm for any liner notes or any essays/evaluations of the shows from those in the know. I'm also for any posters, handbills or photos that are relevant to a given show. The Spring '90 box had a book, program, and poster (all welcome) but it also had replica backstage passes, replica concert ticket stubs, and hockey arena floor plans, that not only increased the price of the box but to me, seemed utterly useless. I needed all that when the shows happened not 20+ years after the fact. We are a diverse lot, each of us a world unto ourself. The bottom line is in 5 weeks we'll have the Mother-Of-All-Box Sets in our hands and regardless of the extras ALL WILL BE GOOD…...until the next box set! (HaHa)
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28 days until Tyrannosaurus Box ships.
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I don't suppose a bonus disc will accompany boxzilla or the 4cd? Or could there be?
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I don't think there is any chance of a bonus disc. Otherwise it would have been announced to push presales.
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I don't think a bonus disc is likely, but for $700, we should get a bonus show on DVD or something. Maybe just put the 3/23/75 and 6/17/75 shows as a bonus, that way, all of 1975 will have been released. If they could put bonus discs on Winterland '73 and '77, why haven't they included them on subsequent box sets?
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I am still trying to figure out how these are all "tent pole" shows. If that were the case wouldn't 5-7-77 or 5-8-77 be in this box? 4-25-77 maybe great for all I know but I guess we shall see.
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The blurb states, "We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent."
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Regarding 5/7/77 and 5/8/77, unless things have changed, the master reels for those shows are not in the Vault; this is why they haven't been released yet. This is true for many other shows, including 5/9/77 as well. They know who has the master reels for those three shows. The physical tapes actually belonged to Betty Cantor (formerly Betty Cantor-Jackson), but when payments were not kept up on the storage locker the tapes were stored in, the entire contents of the locker were auctioned off. So, the purchaser legally owns the tapes, but not the actual music - so he cannot commercially release that material either. I believe he wants a substantial amount of money for the return of those tapes. Up until now, GD have been unwilling to pay for what they think should be returned to them. But, you never know.
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wjonjd - never trust a prankster. All good things in all good time. (I know - phraaaaase dropper!)
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...and thank you to my torrent angel!/peace, K
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... if they released Boxzilla with 5/8/77 on it, limiting it to 6500 copies and forcing people to buy a 700 dollar box to get it, well... it would kinda be like releasing 9/28/75 that way, hahahahahhahaHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaagh. I'm okay. "Scarlet>Fire from 11/1/79, take me away."
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27 days until Super Box!! HAPPY FRIDAY, DEADLAND, So glad WE made it!!!!!!!!!
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