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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 23, 2015 - 10:03pm

#1001

outpost

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Reply from Dr. Rhino .....

Just received this ....... 'I apologize for the tardiness of this email. I have been advised by Dead.net that an official announcement will be sent out by the end of next week, regarding the ship date of your 30 Trips Around The Sun USB order. I have no further information available at this time. I am very sorry for the delays and thank you for your continued patience. Dr. Rhino'
November 23, 2015 - 9:50pm

#1002

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Top ten first sets?.....

....Augusta '84 may just sneak in there. A rocker from beginning to end. Must Have Been The Roses being the only ballad. Stranger, All Over Now, Cumberland & MNS are all top shelf. What a trifecta to end the set!! Simply wonderful. Jerry was a beacon of light that evening peering through the opiate fog with authority. You go Jer....
November 23, 2015 - 2:49pm

#1003

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

DJMac520

I know you are right - but that was the only way I can think of venting. I am really doing a project in class about this very topic, but we are using assumptions rather than facts. Thanks for the admiration :) I'm still truckin!
November 23, 2015 - 2:47pm

#1004

DJMac520

Joined:
June 18, 2009

sfrank115

With all due respect to a very well-thought out list of inquiries, you are never getting those questions answered by Rhino in a million years or with five million people ringing their bell (and keep in mind I am someone who cancelled their order last week, so I am among the great dissatisfied). Some of what you ask goes well beyond what they owe us as customers, it touches on issues that may be proprietary in nature and even if not, may have serious legal ramifications to the parties involved. For example, take the inquiry about a problem with the manufacture of the USB. If Rhino answers you no, that could be an admission against interest in any dispute with the manufacturer as to the manufacturer's liability. Answer "yes" and it could be a breach of confidentiality between those two parties in their agreement. Just aren't getting answers to those questions and frankly, you aren't owed that level of detail either most likely. But man I admire the effort.
November 23, 2015 - 2:04pm

#1005

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

USB

I've written and called them a bunch of times, and there is no new information about the chip - just the same rhetoric! I totally feel everyone's frustration. Here is some of the email I wrote to them after asking a few questions about the USB chip, and got another templated 'generic' response...... Hi there Mac (Dr. Rhino), In all honesty, I feel that the email you just sent not only didn't explain anything, but came across as patronizing. I am doing a project for my class about distributing box sets via USB chips, and the Grateful Dead chip is a great model for this project. There have been two other USB chip releases that I can think of which have been extremely successful: The Beatles Apple USB Queen's USB Orb I understand that they were put out by huge record companies with a large budget, but it makes you question why Rhino has had such difficulty with this release. I believe as a 36 year old fan of music that USB music distribution is a great way to acquire music as well as have a tangible product. But since this 30 Trips mishap - I think people's trust in your company has been tarnished. Here are some of my questions: - Did you guys get a test product, and if so, did it work? - Was there a problem with the manufacturing of the USB chip itself? - Did the issue have anything to do with uploading the music? - Was the chip not big enough to hold all the music in 24bit FLAC & MP3 along with the PDF? (I have yet to see a small flash drive with more than 128gb) - Did you get the entire shipment in and realize that it wasn't correct - maybe the ID3 tags weren't correct? - Was the production sent offshore to be produced, and there was a communication error? The reason my teammates in class agreed to do this project with me was because of the lack of communication with customers. I mean, all you have told anybody is there was a 'production issue' and thanked them for their patience. In all honesty, you haven't given anybody a choice but to be patient. You have not offered any refunds - and thinking that a backstage pass from a show in 95 is a sufficient consolation prize for a two month delay on a $700 product is pretty ridiculous. I wanted to take on this project because I care about the Dead community, and want to help so this issue doesn't ever happen again. I mean, in the two months since we were supposed to get our USB chips, a new Dave's Pick has been released, The 2016 Dave's Pick subscription is now available to purchase, and all the Fare Thee Well shows are set to go out. I may not be the only who is dissatisfied with the level of customer service and information, but I am the person who wants to help make a difference so future Deadheads don't experience this frustration, and I'm offering to do it for free! No strings attached. I will get an A on my project with or without working with you guys - but why waste the effort? ______________ I basically got a BS answer - so, instead of emailing the BBS, try contacting these guys below. Maybe, if enough of us raise hell we will get a few more answers. The problem is how they've communicated with us. Dr. Rhino: Dr.Rhino@rhino.com VP for Rhino: ben.trask@rhino.com
November 23, 2015 - 1:29pm

#1006

DJMac520

Joined:
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USB Order

Cancelled. Enough. I already have the physical box set and had bought both thinking that it would be great to have the physical box for a collector's item, but the ease of file transfer from the USB and not having to rip each disc etc. was how I would get the music to my ears most quickly. Well the delay really took away that advantage and the outlay of cash made no sense. While the way this has been handled is a travesty, I will at least give Rhino CS credit for allowing folks to cancel the order and refund the money.
November 23, 2015 - 1:17pm

#1007

outpost

Joined:
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Dr. Rhino and Warner Music Group

Well, I sent emails to both asking for an update on the USB ...... surprise, surprise, I've not had a reply yet. Customer Service my arse ! (that's a UK expression, in case you're wondering !)
November 23, 2015 - 10:48am

#1008

antonjo

Joined:
June 4, 2007

Moses ~ 77

I just popped '77 in for the first time as this morning's drive-to-work soundtrack. LOVING the first set so far, they really come out swinging. Jerry's leads sparkle from the get-go on Minglewood & Deal ~ sweet Deal. They Love Each Other is a perfect version, and Billy does some fun little rolls in the peak bars of Jerry's solo. And I don't think I've heard a finer Looks Like Rain from this era ~ the dynamics from everyone during the finale, including Keith, are just lovely. And the sound quality is immaculate ~ love it when I can hear the cymbal subtleties. Looking forward to the rest of this show, especially if 2nd set is even better...
November 23, 2015 - 7:10am

#1009

Moses Quasar

Joined:
November 20, 2011

O.K....

Just finished with the 77 show. Here are the shows that have blown me away so far: 67,71,72,73 and now this one! Ive questioned Dave twice: the first was Daves 3. I thought that coming on the heels of E72 this show had a similar set list and would have been the same old stuff but upon listening that show rocked! One my favorite Other One's of all time! The second was this show. I thought there might have been a better 77 show for the box(4/23 maybe?) but once again Dave has proved me wrong! Jerry is simply cranking on this! The first set is great, second set even better! Great Scarlet>Fire, probably the best Samson Ive ever heard and the Terrapin is Superb! I like the early versions of Terrapin where it starts right in with a faster beat! The PITB and Wharf Rat are great too! Just a great show all around! More Spring 77 please!!! Im taking my time with this box and I listen to the shows several times before I move on! 78 today! take care folks!!
November 23, 2015 - 7:01am

#1010

mojobrojo

Joined:
November 29, 2013

Thrashing a non-corporeal equine

This crazy USB debacle...... a few of us have had troubles over the years-- all eventually remedied-- with Dead / Rhino Customer Service but most interactions are good. They are also two companies known for putting out a quality product and being pretty Fan-centric and responsive.This is so far out of the norm-- so NOT the way they normally operate-- and that's had me puzzled. And trying to assemble this Puzzle is tough with several critical pieces missing. Then it dawned on me...... "Non-disclosure Agreement". That's the one thing that would explain the uncharacteristic behavior and lack of useful communication between Seller and Buyer. And if there is an "NDA" between Rhino and whoever they unwisely sub-contracted the Lightning Bolt out to, that agreement may well contain a clause that even the existence of an NDA cannot be disclosed to the public-- not an uncommon occurrence. I have no inside information-- I'm just speculating--but at least my suggestion lies within the realm of possibility AND points the finger away from those beleaguered CS Folks who can only tell us what they're allowed to tell us.

John Perry Barlow

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Tomorrow

Tomorrow will bring us one month away from the big box. They've got to give us something........right?

Tomorrow

Tomorrow is one month until it ships - add one week (or more depending on your location) until we have it in our grubby little hands.

Tomorrow

Does this quote feel a little like an empty promise to any one right now? " So now you have it, but you should stay tuned as we will be revealing tons of great music, artwork, and more." 12 songs hardly count as "tons if music" and I haven't seen any "art work, and more yet".

Dusty

They can't show us yet.....too many box-cutter marks.Ooops.Here's to hoping the next 30 days fly by. :)

DeadBase 50

To those who possess "The Best of the Grateful Dead Hour" did anyone notice that the rehearsal that took place at Club Front on 9/26/90 is NOT in DB 50, even though the Terrapin>Playing in the Band>Terrapin is less than 3 minutes long it would be interesting to see what other songs the boys were teaching to Bruce as you can clearly hear Jerry explaining the chord progressions during the Playing to Bruce. It is still the most interesting & unusual CD I own of any band. I have notified Stu Nixon from DeadBase & he stated he will definitely look into it, as it's obvious rehearsals did in fact take place on 9/??/90 & 9/28/90, I would presume that the rehearsal on Best of... is the one dated "9/??/90 it also seems as though Goodnight Irene was also performed. A detailed description of the CD is on page 317 of DeadBase 50. I received DeadBase 50 on Saturday & it's already worthy of the $89.99 I paid for it, it's an invaluable tool for ALL Deadheads. And yes it's on the coffee table as it has the Wife's Seal of Approval.

COUNTDOWN

30 Days until 30 Trips Around The Sun, my goal during the countdown is to call it a different name everyday, so today let's just call it 30 Trips....... And while I'm at it why not an unveiling of what to expect? I would like to know what I'm getting for my $699.98 PLUS TAX. To The Powers That Be let's make it happen. Stay cool Philly as it's going to be HOT HOT HOT in the concrete jungle. HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND

Preview of box

I tell you what powers that be... Don't worry about giving us a preview! Just ship it out 2 weeks early and I promise that I will personally take a box cutter and severely damage my copy. This should save you guys some time in the warehouse!

self-slicing

Hey Dusty. I'm one of the folks that thinks the box cutter slices are not big deal really. However, I still couldn't help laughing out loud when I read your post. The offer to self-slice in return for earlier shipping sounds fair to me :)

Well, they updated the front page........

At least we know TPTB have their lights on.. :)

Anyone? Anyone?

http://www.amazon.com/Live-Saratoga-1988-Vol-1/dp/B00UYOXW6Q/ref=sr_1_1… So... I just ran across this on Amazon. Says it's available for Pre-Order now, and ships on Sept. 18th (same date as Boxzilla). There's a Vol. 1 and Vol. 2, both of which are only available on vinyl. Anyone know anything about this? If not... there you go. I'm not a vinyl guy (anymore), but I figured that several on here are.

And just for the record...

It's a different show than the 1988 show included in Boxzilla.

Saratoga June 1988

There is also a CD set for this available and the reviews are not good. Some people on amazon stating there are soundboards out there that sound better. So, is the vinyl gonna better any better? I'll wait...this is a bootleg release, obviously, but I have a bootleg vinyl of 5/8/77 and it sounds great. So, who knows?

Come waste your (money)

At the Steve Hoffman forums folks are reporting that this label's releases are on quality vinyl, and that while they are technically not legit in the USA, they aren't bootlegs in Europe due to a quirk of EU copyright law: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/let-them-eat-vinyl-are-these-legi… Essentially, archive.org FM sources pressed to vinyl. Waste your money if you're so inclined, IMO.

Waste your money(or not)

Original boot of 8-13-75(namely the "Make Believe Ballroom"), taken from FM, goes for over $100.It has nothing to do with the material being available other places, and everything to do with collecting. I still buy original vinyl of stuff I have on CD, or even on other vinyl. Some boots have attained legendary status and have even been reissued in legit fashion, for example Dylan's Great White Hope, reissued last April for RSD.

Tons of great music, artwork and more.....

So where is it? We have had 4 listening parties and that is it. Is that really "tons" of music? Dont say things like this if you have no plans to actually do it.

Two Arrivals in One Day

Got my Deadbase 50 today,,, it's a big book, I'll skim through it, but most data lookups I'll still do online. I got it just to have it. Even better get was Road Trips Volume 1 Number 2,, the man wasn't lying, it came with the bonus disc! I called the help desk to verify if it came that way and they couldn't tell, ordered it on word of someone out there, THANKS. I don't know if they have any more, but if you don't have and would like, maybe you should order one. It temps me to try buying the last few the of the RT they say aren't sold out to see if I can get lucky twice.

DeadBase folks

thanks to you from the Rex Foundation, which continues to get a portion of the proceeds from each copy!

O.K....

I'm ready for this box-set!........Great way to start the fall....I'm going to listen from start to finish in order and listen to the evolution of the band...Sounds good... I'm ready for this box-set!......

Clear the Skids

Oh man, I gotta get busy. I still have the final 2 1/2 Spring 90 TOO shows to get through before 30 Trips arrives. Then I'll get to about a show a week for -- 30 weeks! I'm definitely going to listen chronologically. Finished the S90 Branford show last night. Best thing about it: Branford. Dude has uncanny skills. Then I jump back to finish Show 5 tonight. Shows 7 & 8 are last. I hope they are as good as the best ones on the tour. I find them hit or miss, but the hits are marvelous.

Where's the reveal????

It's one month to go...... Where's the reveal...really interested in the extras in the box i.e. books, posters etc.... And second or third the comment about more 85-95 dead on commercialy released video - who wants to see FTW - there was so much dead recorded visually in 80s/90s release it commercialy - maybe 10 video trips......

Where's the reveal????

COUNTDOWN

29 days until TPTB start shipping MEGA BOX.

I have it from a valid source...

I have it from a valid source that they are going to deliver the box sets using same trucks that carried the Wall of Sound. The size and weight were an exact match! I would like a sneak peek, though, if possible. Not to defend them, but I recall a similar intent to show us what's in the box before E72 shipped and they just ran out of time.

Sneak Peak

I seem to remember TPTB showing an illustration of the E72 box with compartments etc. which led many people to believe there would be more *swag*. When there wasn't said *swag* TPTB got a lot of grief as I recall. Personally, just gimme the damn MUSIC. I don't need replica backstage passes (I needed them when the show happened!) or floor plans for the hockey arenas they played. Just…the…MUSIC.

Boxzilla Accoutrements/Extras

I don't mean to downplay anyone's enjoyment of the extras but I always ask myself… If they give me extras, will I enjoy the music more? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. I'll checkout the extras once, maybe twice but that's it. If they don't give me extras will it lessen my enjoyment? It's not possible since I'll be overjoyed with this release. In summation: Extras = Overjoyed No Extras = Overjoyed Looks like the "Overjoyeds" have it!

...great..

The next thing you are going to tell is the big Steelie I got tattooed on my forehead yesterday was a waste of money and makes me no more fun to hang with than the boring terd I was last week. This is going to be a long month.

Stealie Tattoo

It's never a waste of money…tattoo = extra = overjoyed! The month will fly by (I find the older I get, the faster it goes). I plan on listening to 11/2/77 AGAIN today (it's the first and only time I've listened to the same show more than 3 times in 1 week) and for the rest of time I'll be dipping deep into the Dead well.

At the end of the day, it's always about the music

But the extras are always a huge plus! I loved the WUTFO artwork from Spring 90 TOO. I got it framed and it looks beautiful. The essays and photos are great at accentuating the music.

Forehead Stealie tattoo

Damn, Jim, that's hardcore! And I thought my tattoo was daring...dancing bears tramp-stamped across the small of my back.

Re: Steelie

Good idea, Tramp Stamp.. wish I would have thought of that...

"Extra! Extra! Read all about it!!"

I am all about the extras. The more liner notes, the better. Cool trinkets? Yes please. That's what makes buying the box more worth the money than just getting a USB in the mail.

wissinomingdeadhead , interesting observation, is 5.28.76 there?

this date is a rehearsal, but the "Attics of My Life" is one to absorb.. **Killer Combo Alert** 4.11.89 - Rosemont Horizon, Chicago IL Little Red Rooster ; Friend of the Devil

here is some rehearsal with Bruce ,, dated 9.28.90

https://archive.org/details/gd90-09-28.sbd.jeffm.13531.sbeok.shnf

@mbarilla

The only "Attics" listed is dated 5-17-76 Aces, Mill Valley, CA it appears to be the only song that was rehearsed. The only item listed for 5-28-76 is; 5-28-76 Orpheum Theater, San Francisco, CA Change venue to Orpheum All of the above information is on page 53 of DeadBase 50.

DeadBase50 confusion exhibit A

If you flip to the DeadBase XI section wissinoming you will see that indeed the fantastic Attics mbarilla is speaking of was indeed played (3X) the sole correction made to that entry in DeadBase50 is to omit 'Theatre' from the original entry. Why they did not use OCR software is beyond me.

Palpable excitement...

...I sit with DB50 open to pg.314 of XI, on which you'll find the '81 NYE review by our own MaryE; which leads me to my request for help: could anyone seed the Tobin 12/31/81 recording over on LL? If its any incentive, I'm currently seeding Floyd from 9/30/71 (BBC archives) as well as the Miller SBD from one of the GOGD's peak nights during the near-uniformly awesome year of '77 - 10/29/77 (remember our discussion back on The Eleven?!)/thanks for any assistance, K

Mbarilla.....

....that Hornsby practice is priceless!! Jerry says "cheeseburger for Phil" at one point during the Saint intro. WTF does that mean? Lol. Bruce caught on quick, as did Vince. Six weeks of practice and they churned out the '90 Europe tour?! Incredible. Jerry seems to come across as a kindred soul to have met. Wish I would have been able to.... ....oh. Hi Kate! ....wait. Garcia loved cheeseburgers, as the story goes. Maybe they just had Burger King deliver some Whoppers!...

Then....

....Bobby says "I can't play it if I think too hard about it". Phil responds with "Then stop making it harder than it has to be!" Sorry for the play by play, but this is funny shit. Check it out. The link is like five posts below.... ...Jerry chimes in with "It doesn't matter" a couple of times. Figures....

Extras

The box has (as stated) a 288 page book. I'm for any liner notes or any essays/evaluations of the shows from those in the know. I'm also for any posters, handbills or photos that are relevant to a given show. The Spring '90 box had a book, program, and poster (all welcome) but it also had replica backstage passes, replica concert ticket stubs, and hockey arena floor plans, that not only increased the price of the box but to me, seemed utterly useless. I needed all that when the shows happened not 20+ years after the fact. We are a diverse lot, each of us a world unto ourself. The bottom line is in 5 weeks we'll have the Mother-Of-All-Box Sets in our hands and regardless of the extras ALL WILL BE GOOD…...until the next box set! (HaHa)

Countdown

28 days until Tyrannosaurus Box ships.

Bonus disc?

I don't suppose a bonus disc will accompany boxzilla or the 4cd? Or could there be?

Bonus disc

I don't think there is any chance of a bonus disc. Otherwise it would have been announced to push presales.

bonus disc

I don't think a bonus disc is likely, but for $700, we should get a bonus show on DVD or something. Maybe just put the 3/23/75 and 6/17/75 shows as a bonus, that way, all of 1975 will have been released. If they could put bonus discs on Winterland '73 and '77, why haven't they included them on subsequent box sets?

I am still trying to figure

I am still trying to figure out how these are all "tent pole" shows. If that were the case wouldn't 5-7-77 or 5-8-77 be in this box? 4-25-77 maybe great for all I know but I guess we shall see.

Tent poles

The blurb states, "We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent."

Tent poles

Regarding 5/7/77 and 5/8/77, unless things have changed, the master reels for those shows are not in the Vault; this is why they haven't been released yet. This is true for many other shows, including 5/9/77 as well. They know who has the master reels for those three shows. The physical tapes actually belonged to Betty Cantor (formerly Betty Cantor-Jackson), but when payments were not kept up on the storage locker the tapes were stored in, the entire contents of the locker were auctioned off. So, the purchaser legally owns the tapes, but not the actual music - so he cannot commercially release that material either. I believe he wants a substantial amount of money for the return of those tapes. Up until now, GD have been unwilling to pay for what they think should be returned to them. But, you never know.

I agree

wjonjd - never trust a prankster. All good things in all good time. (I know - phraaaaase dropper!)

Hi Vg!

...and thank you to my torrent angel!/peace, K

Also...

... if they released Boxzilla with 5/8/77 on it, limiting it to 6500 copies and forcing people to buy a 700 dollar box to get it, well... it would kinda be like releasing 9/28/75 that way, hahahahahhahaHAHAHA aaaaaaaaaaaaagh. I'm okay. "Scarlet>Fire from 11/1/79, take me away."

Countdown

27 days until Super Box!! HAPPY FRIDAY, DEADLAND, So glad WE made it!!!!!!!!!

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