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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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September 12, 2015 - 6:34pm

#4641

Chitown rider

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Cover Art

Not sure if these are high enough resolution or not but I use them. https://plus.google.com/photos/106465427611350658328/albums/59784616720…
September 12, 2015 - 5:48pm

#4642

Zuckfun

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Cover Art

Not sure if these can be copied or downloaded, but here's a very complete selection: https://picasaweb.google.com/m/viewer#albumlist/titanarch
September 12, 2015 - 5:24pm

#4643

yetibike

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comdata55 / album art

I usually just run a search in Google Chrome under pics...moe often than not I find something in good resolution that I can use. Sometimes I will open them in Paint to resize or change the pixel resolution. I have found some good images on Wikipedia as well as the GD archive here too. Good luck :)
September 12, 2015 - 4:21pm

#4644

comdata55

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A little off-topic

All this talk about the box vs the USB and sounds quality has motivated me to revisit my digitized versions of the GD albums I own. I'm now trying to re-rip all my GD albums to FLAC to archive them. Does anyone know of a site/repository that has hi-res versions of all of the album covers, even box set album covers?
September 12, 2015 - 3:33pm

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floridabobaloo

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Recording. Just a couple points

Multitrack tape in that period was usually a 2 inch wide reel. The cost was quite expensive. It would run typically at a high speed for the quality of the sound. A reel would go say 10-15 minutes.When we refer to a 8/16/24/32 or how many tracks, the concept is simple. The end result will be a stereo recording. That is L/R OR 2 track. The process begins with the multiple track recording. Yes every voice or instrument is given its own track which can be EQed, given any efx, or processing. Back then16-24 track was the norm. In today's digital world there's really no limit. Then it was limited by the size of the tape. Once a performance was tracked, you would make adjustments to each track, which usually was adjusting the equalization and position in the stereo field. If you want keyboards on the left and guitars more on the right, you dialed that in via the mixing console. The goal of this step was to mix down to a stereo 2 track tape machine. So in essence if you had 24 separate tracks, in the recording phase, you now had the tune mixed to stereo. this is the mixing phase. Finally that stereo tape would be run thru a console once again and those 2 tracks, would be equalized and in some cases, run thru noise reduction, or compression or other sound processing. This is called Mastering. So you have 3 steps in the process from the initial recording of the performance to the final product we buy as a stereo recording. Today the main difference is we use computers and a format of digitally recording as opposed to analog magnetic recorders back in the day. You still have to capture the best performance as cleanly as you can. And you still have to have very good ears! A live 2 track, as said, was simply a stereo copy of the mixing board at a live show to capture the sound of the performance. Most times that tape was used to listen to a performance to evaluate the quality of the performance. 2 track tape is 1/4 inch wide and runs from 7.5-15 inches per second. Called ips. So you will see notes of two track tape at 7.5 ips. Later in the career of the Dead they utilized cassette tapes or DAT ( digital audio tape ) to record the shows. And as stated these weren't recorded to be commercially released. Many bands recorded their shows simply to listen to afterward to see what they sounded like.
September 12, 2015 - 2:54pm

#4646

KeithFan2112

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bohlint / Sound Quality

Expense was a big reason they didn't do more recording with the multi-track in the 70s. I've read that it cost a lot more than two-track, because you have not only the mobile truck business as an added expense, but you also have more expensive tape feeding the multi-track recorders (and a lot more of it - keep in mind, it's like making 8x as many recordings of the same show if you're doing 16 tracks, compared to 2, AND they record faster, which means you go through much more tape per track in a minute than with a two-track machine). As far as comparing the two (two-track vs. multi-track) - There are some really good two-track recordings in the vaults. Everything they've released from 1977 is two-track, and it sounds really good; in fact, I would say most of the '77 stuff sounds better than at least one of the Dead's multi-track releases: Live at the Cow Palace New Year's Eve 1976. Cow Palace doesn't sound horrible, but the tape hiss level is extraordinarily higher than usual, and the fidelity extraordinarily lower (not necessarily due to the multi-track process itself, but probably for other reasons - in general, if done properly, you're going to get a better mix out of multi-track masters). Who knows, maybe they ran out of Maxell XLIIS tapes and put low bias tape in the machine that night ;-). Compared to the Winterland June 1977 box set, for example, Cow Palace does not sound as good, (subjectively speaking of course, but trust me on this one:)
September 12, 2015 - 2:17pm

#4647

alvarhanso

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Sound quality redux

One Man pretty well summed it up. The vast majority of tapes were made on from a 2 track mix at the soundboard, and multitrack was used for tours or shows where they were looking to make a live album. Back in the 60s or 70s multitrack recording usually meant using a mobile recording truck outside the venue to record the show and mix it. By the 80s & 90s, multi track recording was easier to accomplish without a mobile unit. Betty Cantor-Jackson is probably the most famous recording engineer the Dead had, she simply had excellent ears & did her mixing live with headphones. Bear was recording while also running sound, so his recordings can suffer from his primary job coming first and taping coming second, though he still made outstanding tapes. The Dead were the first or at least among the very first bands to use a 16 track recorder in the studio, much less for a live recording, so Fillmore West 69 is an aberration for the time, and we have what we have of that run because they specifically set out to record Live Dead and wanted to do it with the best possible fidelity, hence the 16 track. The use of multitrack allows for each member to have their own channel essentially, so that in mixing, if Bob is playing quietly on St Stephen, it can be boosted a bit, or if Pig's organ is a bit loud, it can be attenuated, and the instruments can be panned so that they don't occupy the same space and muddy the mix. The 2 tracks were made for listening the next day, with no real thought that one day 43 years later it might be released
September 12, 2015 - 1:29pm

#4648

drshakedown74

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Listening party 74

Not sure why not here, but there is the UJB from Dijon 74 on Jambase Why is this website so "old" when the Dead family is based in Silicon Valley , home of a million tech savvy deadheads that would build a killer site for fun and free? Weird
September 12, 2015 - 1:07pm

#4649

boblopes

Joined:
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Wall of Sound in Europe in 1974???

Wow - I can't imagine taking WOS there and needing all the different power converters for just 7 shows. That would've cost big bucks... Couldn't find anything in deadbase or archive, but found this from archive: "Featuring what has to be considered among the very best first sets ever performed by the band, Dijon is clearly THE show of the tour. It's a brilliant performance, among the very best shows of 1974. Several songs are candidates for best ever renditions; most notably the extraordinarily jammed out show opener of Uncle Johns Band and the terrific stand-alone Scarlet Begonias. Playin' in the Band is also exceptionally well played. The solid second set includes a dynamite performance of Eyes of the World and a unique jam suite featuring the first Caution Jam performed since early 1969. This performance is the creme de la creme of the tour! (99 pts) " That sounds awesome...
September 12, 2015 - 12:01pm

#4650

One Man

Joined:
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Spring 1990

They could have used the multi-tracks for the first Spring '90 box but shamefully cheaped out on us and did not. They went the extra mile on Spring '90 TOO, probably thinking it would help sales. That didn't work out, as the first box sold out quickly and the second hasn't yet. There is a big difference in sound quality between the two. I sold the bad one after spinning it once. The 30 Trips box is mostly 2-track, because shows were usually taped in multi-track only if they were being considered for release. So the vast majority of the vault is 2-track tapes. Some of them sound surprisingly good, but I can't think of one that holds a candle to the best of the multi-track mixes.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

1982!

I think this one is a sleeper for the best show in the box. A dream set list for me: 1982 - 7/31, Manor Downs, Austin, TX -Promised Land is rocking, Jerry does a killer Bird Song, he flubs the first chorus in Brown Eyed Women but I still love it, a funky Scarlet>Fire and Morning Dew is epic. One hell of a 3 hour show! =Set One= 01. Tuning 02. Alabama Getaway -> 03. Promised Land 04. Candyman 05. Tuning 06. El Paso 07. Bird Song -> 08. Little Red Rooster 09. Ramble on Rose 10. It's All Over Now 11. Brown Eyed Women -> 12. Music Never Stopped 13. Deal =Set Two= 14. Scarlet Begonias -> 15. Fire on the Mountain -> 16. Estimated Prophet -> 17. Eyes of the World -> Jam -> 18. Drums -> 19. Space -> 20. Uncle John's Band -> 21. Truckin' -> 22. Morning Dew -> 23. One More Saturday Night =Encore= 24. Don't Ease Me In

1982

I agree with you 420bandito. This is an epic show and a frequent listen to my audience tape for the past 32 years (man has it been that long?!) always brings a smile to my face. This is the eve or Jerry's Birthday and the crowd is so psyched and yelling "Happy Birthday" from UJB on. The Second Set is just so hot!

there is a soundboard

there is a soundboard available for this show. It is quite epic.

December

12/26/81

Boxilla

Waiting to see the visuals on this...

7/31/82

hey bandito420,have you seen show on youtube?jerry was hotter than the texas wind that nite.been watching this show before being announced in box set. gonna be nice to have quality audio out-

Listening Party!...........................?

Am I crazy or did we skip Party #5....?? Any update is better than no update :)

Listening party #5

Magnaball Ate It!YUM! MORE PLEASE!!

Cal Expo '86....

....may be the first selection I pick. May not see another '86 release in my lifetime so there you go. The Comes A Time listening party track reinforces my belief. Haven't heard the Copps '92 show, but I would have picked any of the Vegas shows in it's place.....I may be biased in that choice though....

Countdown

26 days until The Box that ROX ships!!!!!

Daves picks question

Can someone please explain to me why some of the daves picks albums appear un-numbered?

Nothin left to do but smile smile smile..

.. at the thought of boxilla being delivered soon :) yeah yeah yeah

perhaps of some interest...

...is how they will have dealt with 'severe dropout problems' from the PCM masters on (at least) the '85 show. I thought the 10-21-83 show was also derived from a beta PCM master, but I'm not sure on that. I guess we'll see. After so many fantastic releases, I am faithful they will have done a fine job patching this one up. Also, I have not been partaking in the listening parties so I do not know what if anything from Riverbend, Augusta or Worcester they have sampled thus far. I want to listen with virgin ears. Primary source info. here:http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/june-18-june-24-2007

Another nice one from summer 1982.

This just shuffled on and reminded how good this show is, i remember getting the tape in the 80's and liking the show, but this SBD from Mr Miller is sweet. https://archive.org/details/gd82-08-10.sbd.miller.12453.sbeok.shnf

Doing that Rag

~ buzzed right nów, it's been a goood Saturday Night! 81-85 to me is epic GD, there is something special there for me. I dunno but Jerry's guitar makes some trippy listening :) I am so looking forward to the unvailing of the mega box! Enjoy the ride folks Peace

...and another from summer '82

Check out 8/6/82 St Paul. Listen to Space about 2 minutes before Truckin starts -- there's a jam based on both The Other One and THE ELEVEN! The Other One played over 11 beats! Very cool!

Proto 30 Trips

For those of you who own both 'The Golden Road' & 'Beyond Description' box sets, you can make up a 'Proto 30 Trips' by adding ALL of the bonus material from each of the releases, even the live albums ( 'Live Dead', 'Skull & Roses', 'Reckoning' & 'Dead Set'. I left off 'Europe 72 since it's already well represented) onto 1 playlist and arranging everything chronologically. It makes for a great overview of the band as well as "UPPING" the psyche factor for the Mother Box.

Updates on 30 Trips Around The Sun Box set?

I was given the impression that there would be "follow ups" to the original video that Dave did posted describing this box. Any idea where it is posted???Mr. Pete------> aging hippie

Countdown

25 days until ALPHA BOX!!!!

Sugaree

I love the early 80s. The folk songs were especially sweet then, such as Jack-a-roe and Peggy-o. Best period for these. 7/18/76 is my favorite unreleased show ever. The second set is so hot, it's one of those moments that's simply better than anything imaginable, except maybe that one Dark Star...you know the one ;)

Correct me if I'm wrong......

Please, please, someone please, correct me...... is there not a single Box Of Rain on this release?

Just one

There's just one -- the encore from 7/9/95 that's included as a single.

Box of Rain - delayed shipment?

Box of Rain is on the single - good news for those of us who are vinyl heads - not such good news for those without a deck. Sadly there is however on CD the following tracks - Dough Knees, Day Job and Way to Go Home - I also have a horrible feeling there's a samba in the rain there too...still at least we don't have to suffer a Wave to the Wind (unless that's on the bonus disc lol). As for the Box video reveal - we've seen and heard nothing....makes me think that there'll be a delayed shipping email soon - if it's not already in post-production and ready for a reveal by now - it will be delayed.... Maybe they'll delay and throw in the crappy FTW box as a 'bonus' - in which case I'll take Wave to the Wind instead lol....

countdown

24 days until KING box ships!!!!!!!

Deadbase 50 arrived....

....almost pulled a muscle picking the package up off the front porch. This is gonna suck up a LOT of my free time for a while. Good thing I just got a new pair of no line bifocals last month!!....

Countdown

23 days until GARGANTUA ships!!!!!

wissdh...

...keep the thesaurus readily available, as yours is the first countdown that's inspired an electric current of Christmasy anticipation since the first week of January when I stood at the site's darkened windows wondering whether anyone was still home! Though, all is shortly to be forgiven... Incidentally, I dreamed of 30 Tripz last week; well, rather a nightmare - the kind you have/had incident to nervous anticipation of exam week at university. I'd received the box - a cheaply constructed affair with a glossy veneer peeled in many places to reveal pabulum brown cardboard beneath - and immediately noticed shows missing as well as caramel - yes, caramel - on the 7 inch single that I removed from a plastic sheath and carried out into a grey rainfall thinking to clean it off, at which time I awoke in a cold sweat. True story (except for a bit of hyperbolic cliche with the "cold sweat" business). I wasn't wed to the necessity of a video unveiling, but sound slumber may dictate I join the growing chorus of petitioners.../peace, K

Pictures of the Box

https://www.relix.com/articles/detail/grateful_deads_30_trips Very nice!

pics

thanks for the link Fennario....very cool

Toy Chest?

The box will certainly be reusable as a nice chest if anyone is so inclined!

Philadelphia Inquirer

Today on page A7, a full page advertisement announcing that "DEAD & COMPANY are going to be performing at The Wells Fargo Center here in Philly, my question is this; is it an American Express ad or a DEAD & COMPANY ad, doesn't matter as I WILL BE GOING!!! Maybe they'll recreate 9/21/72 in it's entirety WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING!!!!! It's a beautiful ad by the way as it is quite poster worthy. AMEX Presale 8/26 @10am TO 8/27 @ 10pm Public on sale Friday, August 28 at 10AM HAPPY TUESDAY DEADLAND!!!!!!!!!

Pics / creampuff

Thank you for the link! I was hoping for a peak inside the box, but the exterior shots are awesome. Boxzilla looks better than I imagined. I'm listening to creampuff as I type this on headphones. The mix is interesting. Jerry's vocals are 100% on the left speaker only and pig's organ are 90% on the right speaker. Jerry's guitar is also much heavier on the right. Not my favorite dead mix, but it really shows how focused on psychedelica they were at this time. I can't wait for this box!!!

Dead & Co doing 7 or 8 cities - hope they come to Boston

I saw my nephew who's now in LA and he had heard from very good sources that they're doing 7 or 8 cities. I asked if they were doing Boston, he did not know. Here's hoping they play there!!! Wow nice pictures of the boxset - hopefully that's real wood and not veneer (or paper) on cardboard. Now I want to see the unveiling - only 200 copies left (according to the main page).

Sneak peak...

How come that wasn't shown here first before we see it somewhere else? yes, that box looks awesome! I just hope if it comes and I'm not home nobody steals it!!!! My big paranoia. Great listening party! Keep em coming! Certainly looking forward to this box set!

Boxzilla?

After seeing this I'm not sure if the name "Boxzilla" still fits... Boxzilla sounds so big and fierce. Sure it's big, but maybe a little more dainty than fierce. "Boxarella," or "Big Box Mama?" Don't get me wrong... I really like the art. I think it captures the free-spirit celebration that is the Grateful Dead show. Only seeing three sides (2 sides and top), I'm imagining that the four sides are each a season to represent winter, spring, summer and fall tours (fall and summer shown here). Again, really want to see the inside and how the CDs are cased.

Sneak peak...

That looks so nice. Now it would be nice to see some scroll photos, maybe a glance at how the CDs are housed. Are they Digipacks or in sleeves? Just a single show out of the box on a table.

30 trips pic

I think it looks great, I thought it was going to be some shabby box judging from the picture here. A black box with that who care image. But I like the look of the toy chest,, it will look on the shelf next to the other box sets! :-) You spend a chunk for these box sets, I want them to look good.

WOW!!!!

Not to ruffle any feathers but this box looks BETTER than the trunk E72 was housed in.As for a name I like GARGANTUA it fits as the box alone is GARGANTUAN, & I too would like to see just how the shows are packaged. Just think if TPTB show us exactly what GARGANTUA contains it SELLS OUT, if I didn't already preorder I believe I would just based on the box itself, if the box looks that good you know the contents look GREAT. PLEAE PLEASE PLEASE let's see the contents!!!!

can't wait

Got my deadbase50 today. I know have so much info to enjoy. Hard to believe that set lists could make me so excited. I got to see the box today and can't wait until I have it show up at my house. I have misses out on the last few box sets and so grateful that I am getting this one.

just exactly perfect!...

this new big box is revealed as a true work of art, and obvious fine companion to the europe '72 trunk - they both are just exactly perfect!...

The look

The artwork looks cool so far, from what we've seen. Though the names of the band members written on the bottom is not only unnecessary, it detracts from the aesthetic presentation of the box. In my opinion, a poor artistic choice. Then again, maybe we don't know the names of the band members, and we can look at the box to be reminded. As it turns out, the decision to include those names is courtesy of the Road Trips Packaging Commitee and the United Boxcutters of America.

RT packaging v. box cutters

I may be in favor of the RT packaging (am I one of the few?), but I am definitely against box cutter samurais! Be more careful with the blades people!P.S. Box concept looks nice! Names to include Bruce, Tom, Vince, Brent, Donna Jean, Keith? Is there room?

Art cont'd

Was just thinking how much prettier the Mona Lisa would look if the words Mona Lisa were drawn in big letters across the bottom of the painting. This is the effect the names written on the bottom of this box has to me. A beautiful picture- a gorgeous box, and then these huge distracting words at the bottom. Anyways, just my two cents. Probably should have kept the criticism to myself.

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Packing it

I REALLY REALLY hope this gets packed with grate care.......this will be coming to Australia soon and will take pride of place in my study with all my other Dead, ABB etc. box sets.... PLEASE Rhino pack this with care.....it has so many roads to travel............ Now WHAT's inside......what's the goodies...... PS I have for sale the DELETED and RARE complete 2013 numbered Allman Brothers Band live tour box set - retailed at 699$US - I'm selling for $799US plus shipping from Oz to USA - a one-time offer as I've seen this set go on ebay for over $1000US.... Also Dead May 1977 box for sale for $350US - shipping included

The BOX!!

Since the box itself appears to be high, it might house 2 levels - 15 shows each level - if you take 15 DaP's and group them together and then double that area you can get the idea. It still leaves room for the book and any extras. Hopefully it'll be DaP cases vs. those sh*tty Road Trips digipacks.

I fell asleep last night....

....reading DeadBase 50. Woke up a couple of hours later with it resting on my chest. No wonder it was hard to breathe. Thought I cracked my sternum! Love, love, love this tome. I found out a few minutes ago that David Crosby sat in on the second half of the second set during the 9.10.72 Hollywood Palladium show. Jumped right to it on relisten.net and am checking it out now. Who knew? I sure as hell didn't....priceless....

Dave's not here!....

....hey Dave, I posted a similar 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?.... ....double post. Sorry. I haven't done That in a while....

Dave's not here!....

....hey Dave, I posted my thoughts on the 30 Trips box interior set up on the Nashville board a few minutes ago. I, however, think it will be only one level of discs as opposed to stacked. Is the box high? Or those of us buying it?....

extras

Box looks great - and the shows speak for themselves - but got a feeling we'll be a little let down on 'extras' - I think it's the book and scroll - that's it..... Not that I need the secret compartment and hidden coin (Other one TOO) or backstage pass replicas.....I'd want real extras (a photobook like the McCartney remasters), bonus discs, downloadable content card, a visual counterpart (i.e. dvd of last ever show), something more I'd actually use....however it will be what it will be...was disappointed as hell with lack of extras on Europe box but the music made up for it - I'm sure that will be the case here (exclusing Dough Knees, Day Job, Samba in the Rain etc...)

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