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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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June 9, 2015 - 3:46pm

#6901

MinasMorgul

Joined:
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1795 Box Sets Left

I can put 1795 units in my cart but not 1796. I'm thinking this is going to be a stretch for them to sell off the rest. Presumably, all of the die-hards have ordered theirs already, so a $750 box set now has to be sold to 1795 casual fans. I'm not so sure that's going to happen before the Shipping date. What is going to piss me off is if they reduce the price in an effort to sell the remainders. I can't imagine the turmoil that would create on this forum. Nah, they wouldn't do that....would they? Probably not until after 9/18 (otherwise everyone would cancel their order, right?) I wonder how many of the sales are illegitimate, due to that computer glitch last week. Let's see, even at 4705 units sold, that means they've earned $3,293,500 (th-that's 3 million son). Just ship this shit already, I need a fix. I'm pissed there are no Help on the Way / Slipknot! / Franklin's Towers in any of the 70s setlists. What a jip. And not one show from the month of January, August, or December! Way too many other months represented in this set, but we January, August, and December lovers have to go f@#k ourselves. And if you count Dave's Picks, the January / August drought continues - so we can go double-f@#k ourselves. If you go back as far as Road Trips, there are still no January releases, so we January lovers are given the proverbial triple-go-f@#k ourselves. Make that a quadruple - Dick's Picks features nothing from January either - DID THIS BAND EVEN PLAY IN JANUARY?!? Ah yes, it looks like I have to delve into the Download Series all the way back to almost the 1960s to get my fix of January Dead, with Volume 2, clocking in at 1/18/70 and one of the shows where it all started - Live Dead The Eleven and Lovelight from 1/26/69.
June 9, 2015 - 3:15pm

#6902

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

re: mabarilla 9/11/73 William and Mary

yea.. but of all the fall '73 horn shows, 9/11 is by far the best. And there isn't really that much annoyance from the horns (comparatively), especially on Let it Grow. This could be the only show where it worked. The Playin', DS and MDew make this rise to the top like cream. Its a great show, Phil is heavy in the mix. Supposedly Hornsby's first show, so in a sense, changed GD history. My copy cuts out during Morning Dew though, and has an audience patch. I wonder what the copy sounds like that's 5 floors down under the vault? 6/10 and 6/30 are killer also. Can't make a bad pick between the bunch. ..also, for what its worth, I that Duke Ellington box looks really good. If I had more scratch, I'd pick it up.
June 9, 2015 - 2:47pm

#6903

mbarilla

Joined:
August 8, 2013

Most questionable Date on the List is.. 9.11.73

Just for the fact I have heard on record, the Vault Master state the Horns shows would not be released. Daves 15 my prediction is a selection from 1973 or 1976 A show that will include a few of the following, Stella Blue Eyes Bird Song Playing in the Band I will take 6.10.73 or 6.30.73
June 9, 2015 - 2:35pm

#6904

mbarilla

Joined:
August 8, 2013

LoveJerry , I will gladly buy those Unwanted 80-90's shows

if you are selling them at $10 bucks a pop. $15 if its your lucky day. Just kidding good luck with those listings. *Zuckfun thanks for posting the list. A few definetly stick out. 3.9.81 must have been nixed at some point in favor of another show, Could have been a switcheroo for 4.6.82 or RT MSG90 was chosen as the MSG material. 1.2.70 - classic Dark Star and following sequence 6.10.73 - 3 set epic, which a small portion will be featured on Sirius today at 7pm
June 9, 2015 - 2:29pm

#6905

Dennis

Joined:
November 1, 2012

Seriously - Duke Ellington....

Just checked, used copies of the Duke are now going for 400 bucks and new copies are 600. I looked because it sounded like a great set to have. As long as we're talking money, have you seen the prices some want for Pure Jerry disc!
June 9, 2015 - 1:57pm

#6906

rusty string

Joined:
February 13, 2013

Around the sun...

Felt really bad about this at first. Limited to 6500? Couldn't they have given the 80s guys some relief by not making them have to buy ten 70s shows again? For a total of $700?People tearing their box sets apart before even getting them?But now I have ordered it. And it's all good. This is just too exciting. Can't wait for September. With all those single shows being offered here, everyone might get what he wants. And: A few days ago I realized that the cinema in my Southern German hometown will screen the last Fare Thee Well show on July 6! It won't be live, but anyway. The cinema might sell out quickly because it's rather small, probably a capacity of 50 or so. Never thought I might have the chance to attend such a kind of MUATM here in Germany. They call it "The Grateful Dead In Concert"...
June 9, 2015 - 1:56pm

#6907

FH2

Joined:
March 9, 2008

corrected list in box

corrected list in box (typo, meant 87 not 77) shows on the list in the box 9/28/75 10/3/76 5/16/81 10/21/83 9/18/87 10/26/89 10/27/90
June 9, 2015 - 1:55pm

#6908

LoveJerry

Joined:
March 19, 2015

PT Barnum (and like-minded others) - I am frustrated too,

but, I understand why it has to be this way. Maybe this will help put it in perspective...... You wrote: "Everything you said I agree with, release the music to the masses and let us purchase what we want when we want it, period. Limited editions is just a marketing tool to get an item sold as quickly as possible." This is the way that they need to do it to 1) make a profit, which they're entitled to, and 2) invest some of that profit into future projects, which provides availability of more shows for Grateful Dead fans in the future (some of which you may approve of). You also mentioned, "I had to laugh when I heard Dave's pitch to Rhino about this set, he stated they all perked up when he mentioned this, do you think it was because of all these great shows being released? or was it the prospect of huge rewards? Something to think about." Well I thought about it, and I decided that while it would be nice to pay one flat rate per show for (say 30 dollars) for whichever shows I wanted, it would benefit me, because I wouldn't be stuck with all of the substandard 80s and 90s shows that are included; but I also know that they are a business, and they're not going to take a loss for any customers - no business does this. And that is what would happen if they adhered to your business plan - assuming a sellout of these box sets before September 18th (which is almost a foregone conclusion), they will have sold 195,000 individual shows (6500 x 30) in 3 months by doing it their way. Your alternative idea, is for them to sell 195,000 individual units in 3 months, which is not going to happen, based on past experience. When you look at the numbers sold by other series, such as Road Trips or Spring 90 (The Other One), they're going to end up with a warehouse full of overstock for a long time. Time is of the essence in business; they may as well burn the money. So, I get your frustration, and believe me, I don't want all 30 shows for $700, I only want 13 for less than half that - but if the alternative is nothing at all - well then I'll just pony up and sell off my overstock on eBay (probably to you), and hopefully pay for my 13 shows with the proceeds - thank you!
June 9, 2015 - 1:10pm

#6909

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
September 10, 2009

Seriously

Making all single 30 shows available would be a major production planning headache: how many 90s shows to produce? How many 70s shows? A limited number edition makes perfect sense. Each disc will cost you ~$9 ea, how can anyone call this a cash grab? To give a perspective, the Complete Duke Ellington RCA box set sold for well over $300 when it came out, and contained only 24 discs(and of course, none of the $ went to either Duke or his sidemen since they were all long dead.) Also, if they decided to make single shows available for download, it still would not diminish the value of the box as a collectible(the original Beatles cover has not been devalued because it has been reissued a few years ago.)
June 9, 2015 - 1:09pm

#6910

Ridin that Train

Joined:
June 5, 2015

exclusivity

Well I agree with you in that if you want to hear the music it is all there if you can type in archive.org and turn on the computer speakers. I meant being able to hear these shows cleaned up and given the full sonic treatment in all their glory. Some people don't mind listening through tinny computer speakers and I do that a LOT when I want to hear a show I don't have but it makes me want to OWN it that much more. To be able to take it with me wherever i go and enjoy it any time or anywhere I want to. You are completely right though, this is the best time in history to be a deadhead for strictly having access to the music. It's truly incredible how much is available to hear. I can imagine how it must feel to have been listening to barely audible cassettes back in the day just to hear the band live versus what we have now. we are truly blessed!

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

24 Box Sets Left

I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.

O.K....

Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....

The packaging....

....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....

Only 22 boxes left

They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on

Moses Quasar

Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...

220 left

220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!

Jed

Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.

Countdown

17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.

One Man - LLR

I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??

11 boxes left now

It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on

10 it's raining looks like rain

One of my fav's. I've ALWAYS thought 4/16/83 was the best one ever done. You want rain on the roof,,, this is the one. https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-16.sbd.miller.28294.sbeok.flacf I had a shit tape for years, was so happy when I found a soundboard by Charlie.

it's raining looks like rain

Only 8 left

Get 'em while their hot!!!!

Down to 5

5 left!!

4

3

2 2 - oops

Back to 3

3 again

2 oh, to have disposable income

i'd grab this sumbitch

Fillmore 1966.07.03

Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...

Can't wait .. Hurry up

I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been

gone

Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved

SOLD OUT

Okay let's start shipping!!!!

Hooray!

I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.

Unbelievable

Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?

Now that it's sold out...

I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...

Accidental Cancellation

Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.

Now that it's sold out...

How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?

Artwork for CD cases

I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.

ebay

I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: Artwork for CD cases

Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.

re: ebay

I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

Hey Spacebro

Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!

Still sold out

They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.

wow.

speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.

30 Trips physical is a done deal.....

....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....

Cancelled order....

....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)

30 Trips Artwork

That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.

Re: 30 trips artwork

I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!

Comments on this page are no longer accessible from main page

Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.

Show discussion forum

I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.

Dusty.rambler

A suggestion to go here: http://www.dead.net/shows-by-yearI'll meet you there. That section of the site is begging for traffic.

Now the BIG ? IS.....

Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.

boblopes...

It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.

Shows by year

Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!

50th anniversary box set

Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.

yeah

It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!

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