30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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December 21, 2015 - 10:24pm

#581

outpost

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11/14/73 on the Bolt USB

The track order is the same as the CD's, which is just plain laziness on their part. I've corrected it when uploading to iTunes, and my back-up contains the original FLAC files along with the book etc. and also my Apple Lossless files in correct set order.
December 21, 2015 - 10:14pm

#582

nab

Joined:
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RE: Media generation gap

Sorry if I was unclear, but I don't think that there is a 1:1 ratio between generation and media preference. I'm only interested in if a correlation exists at all and how that manifests. As far as cd vs. usb goes as a storage medium, the assumption rests on the physical object being the only copy of a given data set. If you control for digital archiving of copies, even without knowing if future systems will be able to read either cds or digital files (a possibility for both mediums), digital files have much more flexibility in respect to both corruptibility and longevity at present. This is especially true when you consider the risk of loosing a particular set of information (from a strictly exists/doesn't exist standpoint and not a product standpoint) can be spread among more users than can be with a physical medium.
December 21, 2015 - 9:43pm

#583

Vguy72

Joined:
June 29, 2007

Re; 420bandito....

....going to the prom with one date ('76 Cobo) and catching a pretty eye and leaving with another (Jan '72 Winterland ) is like playing fire with fire. Who did you pin the corsage to? Cobo. You will long for her once the sparkle of the new apple to your eye fades.... ....kidding. I love 1972 (hence, part of my nametag). Have not heard that show. Maybe my eye (and ears) will wander as well. Good luck. Cobo is indeed a stunner. Proud to have her in the crook of my arm at this time....8.3.82 was fluttering her lashes at me a couple of days ago. Shame on her....slut ...btw nab. Are you arguing with yourself? Awesome! They have self-help classes for that. Lol. Cool comments tho....
December 21, 2015 - 9:42pm

#584

Ziffle

Joined:
July 21, 2015

Media generation gap?

I generally agree with nab. I shudder at the thought of a box of 80 CDs. In truth, I would personally have been happy to dispense with the USB as well and take it as a download. I also agree with LoveJerry about archival storage media. The USB has a limited life span. High quality optical media in dead storage (no pun intended), maintained properly can last decades, USB, maybe ten years, with luck. Both the Library of Congress and British Museum have good information on this issue. But the best storage is continuously backing up and copying to whatever happens to be current. I leave indefinite long term archives to the Library of Congress, universities and similar institutions. I bought the USB version for the higher quality files and sparing me the annoyance of yet another stack of CDs. The only physical media that I voluntarily purchase are now blu ray discs. Unfortunately, because of piracy, I doubt we will get those as download files. I take issue with nab on one particular point, and that is the insistence that this is generational. Little doubt that I am in the "older" segment here. It is not a generational issue, it is an esthetic or mindset issue. Some folks enjoy physical media. This is legitimate. I have many LPs purchased decades ago, and a significant number of those have cover art that has value independent of the music on the LP. But from the point of view of the music, higher resolution digital files beat the pants off of LPs and CDs. In that regard, I believe that the transfers done for this set are superb, given the available sources, and I am quite certain that purely considering audio quality, the files on the USB are the best available audio, equal to the sources from which they are derived. It was generous of GDM to make these available, in effect selling us (who bought the USB), the master tapes. I also do not care a bit about investment value. I bought this set for listening, not selling. On that, I am with nab, but this is a personal matter.
December 21, 2015 - 8:34pm

#585

nab

Joined:
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RE: nab

We'll start with the unsolicited moral lesson: "At this point, I know you're probably feeling a little bad about the snark you delivered, but truly I say!" - No, I'm not. The snark in my comment was directed at another bit of snark I was responding to directly. That would probably be more apparent if a reply was posted under a comment, but working with what we have here, I did the best I could by putting "RE:Enjoy, USB guys" in the subject line. That should direct a reader back to "Enjoy, USB guys", the way "RE:nab"lets everyone know I'm speaking to your comment. Now on the the other bits: "I think you're overstating the quality of the product you purchased." - No again. I have not purchased either product and don't have a financial dog in this fight. I can't speak directly to the quality of either product, but I am speaking to the "USB vs. CD" discussion which is interesting to me, especially the generational aspects which were alluded to in the comment I was responding to. That said, I bet that getting a copy of the digital files from the store might be a bit easier than a whole set after the presses haven't been set to print that product for five years. "From my point of view, by purchasing the CDs, I've eliminated a single point of failure for my product,and diversified it out to 80 components." - At first this comment was an interesting take to me. Then I remembered, short of the entire usb failing (and having no other backup of the files) this take applies to data corruption on a drive as well. The data isn't one file but many inside many folders. Yes, a file may corrupt, maybe even a whole folder, but they're not all going to go from the entire usb failing. Just think of that file as the skipping track. The rest are all good. Additionally, you have not eliminated a single point of failure. Natural disaster, theft, any number of things could excise the set from your possession. Maybe you have a digital copy to fall back on, in which case your're really in the same boat as all the other usb users, only now you're talking about your personal data storage system. Maybe you have another physical back up (cd-r or some other disc), but then you're entering into the realm of "considerable effort" I was talking about, and if you don't have the original box, you don't have an investment to speak of. "Since the Box Set and the USB Drive were the same price, I figured I would go with the medium that gave me more value for my money" - From an investment value, I believe you are probably right, but I could care less about the investment value and was speaking only about the storage medium. "Age and durability. CDs last longer..." - There is enough serious debate about this to make declarative statements like this seriously unhelpful to anyone interested in understanding the subject. The rest that follows is anecdotal. The rest: Thanks for the lesson, but I know my way to the Google search bar. To close: Eliminating a single point of failure should not be the most important consideration for buying one product or the other. Both products can fail and multiple backup options exist for both products; it's just easier if the raw material you are working with is a digital file to begin with. While it may be advantageous to choose one product over another from a investment prospective, that isn't a single consideration for purchasing one product over another for all consumers (not to mention that the usb is advertised as a different digital product than the cd). The durability of each product as a storage medium is still a matter of debate without a declarative answer.
December 21, 2015 - 4:45pm

#586

the420bandito

Joined:
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keep ramblin'

Well I was all in love with the '76 Cobo - Ramble on Rose until I heard them play it 1972-01-02 Winterland, San Fran, CA. Searing!! Jerry's voice sounds very different when you hear them both.
December 21, 2015 - 4:44pm

#587

Born Cross Eye…

Joined:
August 25, 2008

11/14/73 on the Bolt USB

Has the playing order of this show been corrected on the Bolt? It seems to be quite a problem that you have to go back and forward with this show. I'm glad I didn't buy this "thing" as per LoveJerry's and others comments about the fragility of USB drives. I have "corrected" the CD problem by burning 4 CD-Rs of this show and while doing that, I've invested the time to burn CD-Rs for the whole box of discs, including the 45 r.p.m. 7" single vinyl disc, which is filler on disc 3 of 2/21/95. Totally "old-school". 81 CD-Rs. If I still had a cassette player in my car, I'd record the shows to tape to play in my car. Real Old School, totally.
December 21, 2015 - 4:33pm

#588

TheDude77

Joined:
November 6, 2013

Book

They said hard book and not hardcover. Maybe they were talking about a hard copy on the hard drive. The book we received with the box is not really a hardcover book. Read it enough and it will probably fall apart.
December 21, 2015 - 3:58pm

#589

Roscoe R

Joined:
December 3, 2014

USB/Hard copy Book

According to customer service at dead.net; Rhino will not be sending hard cover books to those like myself who bought the USB.Very disappointing. Not that I am looking for something that I didn't pay for but the broken promise.If they never offered the book, I would have been cool with the delay. Shit happens. I didn't expect the broken promise to happen with a company associated to the dead.
December 21, 2015 - 2:10pm

#590

outpost

Joined:
June 11, 2007

Happy with the USB

After all the issues with the USB, I'm happy that I went for this option. It's a cool design, and even though I feel they could have taken this opportunity to make the shows seamless, I'm not complaining. Hope they make this an option for future releases, but just need to get their act together with the logistics. I've just finished uploading everything into iTunes, into correct set order, and can spend the holiday enjoying the music.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

24 Box Sets Left

I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.

O.K....

Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....

The packaging....

....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....

Only 22 boxes left

They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on

Moses Quasar

Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...

220 left

220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!

Jed

Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.

Countdown

17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.

One Man - LLR

I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??

11 boxes left now

It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on

10 it's raining looks like rain

One of my fav's. I've ALWAYS thought 4/16/83 was the best one ever done. You want rain on the roof,,, this is the one. https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-16.sbd.miller.28294.sbeok.flacf I had a shit tape for years, was so happy when I found a soundboard by Charlie.

it's raining looks like rain

Only 8 left

Get 'em while their hot!!!!

Down to 5

5 left!!

4

3

2 2 - oops

Back to 3

3 again

2 oh, to have disposable income

i'd grab this sumbitch

Fillmore 1966.07.03

Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...

Can't wait .. Hurry up

I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been

gone

Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved

SOLD OUT

Okay let's start shipping!!!!

Hooray!

I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.

Unbelievable

Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?

Now that it's sold out...

I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...

Accidental Cancellation

Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.

Now that it's sold out...

How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?

Artwork for CD cases

I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.

ebay

I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: Artwork for CD cases

Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.

re: ebay

I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

Hey Spacebro

Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!

Still sold out

They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.

wow.

speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.

30 Trips physical is a done deal.....

....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....

Cancelled order....

....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)

30 Trips Artwork

That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.

Re: 30 trips artwork

I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!

Comments on this page are no longer accessible from main page

Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.

Show discussion forum

I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.

Dusty.rambler

A suggestion to go here: http://www.dead.net/shows-by-yearI'll meet you there. That section of the site is begging for traffic.

Now the BIG ? IS.....

Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.

boblopes...

It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.

Shows by year

Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!

50th anniversary box set

Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.

yeah

It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!

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