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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • allman
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    The "Celebrating Jerry" section of dead.net has the following:Our fourth and final listening party celebrates Jerry's finest moments from our upcoming 30 Trips Around The Sun release. Listening to it now with earbuds, sounds amazing. First up - Dark Star.
  • claney
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    KYTrips, that is a moving story - sounds like your priorities are just right. I was actually with my father in Florida staying with my grandmother for a week, painting her house. She broke the news to me - she was a gentle southern woman with a soft Georgia accent, basically conservative. But she said, "Oh, I'm so sorry, I know what that man meant to you." Wissinoming, as Dantian confirms, 5/4/77 holds a special place for me too. Dantian, wow man, it makes my day that you remember that. Yeay! Think now that my wife is in bed, I may just need to pull out that and give it a spin...(or look for a better version on the archive!)
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    Today my wife found out that the Kenyan Governments' Department of Land & Preservation will hear her case on property that her family has in Kenya, Kenyan law states that every 10 years any land owned by a family must be transferred to another family member, originally the land was owned by her grandfather until 1975 who turned it over to his daughter my wife's mother, etc, etc you get the idea now the land has a home built on it, the very home my wife grew up in until she became a student at The University of Penn in 2003, now the land & home must get deeded to the wife or the government seizes it as part of eminent domain. As of now the land is in her sister's name, has been since 2005, hopefully in 2025 we can put it our daughter's name. The problem is it takes about 2 weeks to get this done as no computers exist in gov't offices so EVERYTHING is done by hand. How she explained it to me is no deed exists as what they call them is "land titles", so you have to go to one office to get the "old" title take it one office to get a "new" title issued, then take that to another office 2 days later to have it revised than 4 days later get the "new" title, then take it to another office to get it stamped, then get it revised again, then a hearing is granted just to make sure the property is titled to an heir & not just some fly by night "family" member. The whole process takes about 2-3 weeks for something we can do in mere minutes, the power of technology "gotta love it". Now the conversation the misses & I had was in regards to her being out of the country for at least a month, as she's looking forward to seeing family & friends she hasn't seen in 5 years she also has a fear about the kids & I, which to me is highly understandable as even I have an understated fear. Now the very question she asked me was when is this "thing" you ordered scheduled to arrive? I say because I went for the NBD shipping option it should be September 18th or Monday the 21st at the latest, she then says to me her exact words were, "don't forget you have 2 school age children, don't get so wrapped up in your music that you forget to feed them, clothe them, get them to school".. in other words don't let them starve to death, don't let them run around like naked savages & don't let them get dumb I say to her the day my love for the Grateful Dead allows me to ignore my most precious gifts, divorce me, take the kids & RUN don't walk away from me, she said to me "that's all I have to hear". When was the last time anyone checked out 9/26/81? I think it's to revisit that one as it's a good one, a rather unusual set list, CHECK IT OUT!!!!! HAPPY MONDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!
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    What a great show, Claney actually turned me on to it with his post here long ago extolling the virtues of that Comes A Time out of Playing. Love it. @Dennis Wilmont, I remember those days just as you described. I'm a few years younger than you, but remember as a kid in the 70's having lots of freedom to run around and play outside unsupervised in NYC. They called kids like us "latchkey kids" since we came home from school to empty homes due to our parents (or parent) still working and not there to supervise us. I remember going to the corner store on 11th street and Bleecker, buying a Spalding rubber ball, and playing stoop ball for hours with friends. They don't even have such neighborhood stores anymore, and no one would let their 8 yr old walk home alone, or play in the streets until dark. A different world indeed. @Deadheadbrewer, thanks for the info. Got to go now, wife says my bacon-wrapped ham cubes with melted butter are ready...
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    Since it's been brought up twice now,,, I figure I'd pipe in.First time I went to New Hope was in 8th grade, this was 1970 just before we graduated. This is where the class trip was to. They let all the kids run wild around New Hope and of course the Now and Then shop was a big hit with 13 year olds (it still was hippie time) After letting us run wild we went to the Bucks County Playhouse and saw the play "Stop the World, I Want to Get Off",,, it was very good to this kid. I think back on this and think "they let us run wild",, the teachers wandered around by themselves and the kids just ran wild. I remember in 6th grade we had a class trip to NYC, and they let us run wild in Central Park. (that was about 68) But the let 11 year old kids loose! You see that woman had the cops called on her for letting her kids walk 3 blocks to the playground by themselves (heaven forbid) I think about being 6, leaving home at 8 in the morning and being told to be home for dinner at 5. The four kids in our group would be miles from home,,, hell we played in the swamps (they call them wetlands now :-) I guess it was just a different time!
  • KYTrips
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    Wow... it's hard to believe that 20 years can go by so fast. That was an especially trying day for me. I was 25 and I was getting ready to relocate from Northern VA to Louisville, KY to attend law school (no jokes, please). I was in my hometown for a few days (in PA) so that I could see some friends and family before relocating to KY, since it would now be a much longer drive to go home than the 2.5 hr drive from DC. Late that morning, I was on the way to the hospital to see my grandpa, who'd suffered a pretty serious stroke about 6 weeks earlier (oddly enough, he had his stroke on the same day I saw my last GD show at RFK Stadium in June). It would be the last time I saw my grandpa alive, as I headed out to KY the next day or so, and he ended up dying in September as a result of the damage done by the stroke. As I was pulling into the parking lot of the hospital, I heard the news on the radio. It hit me like a sucker punch. Sure, we'd all seen Jerry's condition deteriorate over the years, but this was Jerry F'ing Garcia. He was larger than life, and I suppose that we all thought that he'd be fine and straighten himself out. I had to get it together though, as I had a more pressing concern in visiting with my grandpa (sorry, but if you knew my grandpa and what he meant to me as a kid growing up, you'd understand that statement completely). I went in and had a nice visit with my grandpa. He was still very fuzzy from the stroke, and communicating with him wasn't as easy as it used to be, but the connection was certainly still there. On some level, I suspected all the time that I was there that the visit could be the very last one I had with him. It was. And then I went home and spent the rest of the day and night having to hear over and over about Jerry's passing, and that just made things worse. All in all, it was a bittersweet day. Now, when someone mentions the death of Jerry Garcia, I relate it to the death of my grandfather. In some ways, I suppose that's a bit appropriate.
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    20 years shit! I had the pleasure of spending thanksgiving with Jerry at the Warwick hotel in i believe 78. Was at a Garcia band show the night before in NJ. Meet Donna Jean in the parking lot after show and she invited us up the next day. Went right in to front desk asked for Jerry's room the desk guy dial the phone spoke to someone and said go on up! What a great time Jerry was so animated that night showing us his art work, animation for the not yet released GD movie and a couple of his ties! Partied like rock "rock stars". Jerry had ashes and coke all over his black t shirt. Keith sat there like a mummy for 5 hours not saying a freaking thing!
  • Sixtus_
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    Wissinoming.....get this....the Now and Then Shop in New Hope, PA...my folks live in New Hope and I found that store back in the mid-90's as well....back when bootlegged CDs were really the only way I could find to get decent sounding GD (although it was really hit or miss once you opened up the package). BUT, I found the same "Dead in Cornell", 3-CD set and still have it to this day. That was an awesome store that sold tons of music as well as infinite paraphernalia...pretty sure I bought my first piece there too. Small World, Many Heads. Peace and Rock On.
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    Chuckling doesn't make you a bad person…but your daughter is incredibly empathetic…you've done 'alright' with the child-rearing as evidenced by your daughter trying to share your pain…Michael Jackson was her Jerry.
  • Deadheadbrewer
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    I sell home, auto, health, and life insurance, and the bad news for Dantian's wife is that his life insurance policy has an exclusion for sky diving. Slow death by bacon would be covered, however . . . Drove from Saint Paul to Milwaukee this weekend (with DP33) for the Brewers/Cardinals series with my Steal Your Brewers shirt on (there's a Brewers logo inside the face--wore my Steal your Cubs shirt Sunday-the Brewers shirt says "Steal Your Base"). On Saturday I happened to glance at the scoreboard while they were running fan messages, and I caught, "Jerry, we miss and love you". Amen.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.
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Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....
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....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....
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They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on
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Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...
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220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!
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Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.
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17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.
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I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??
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It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on
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Get 'em while their hot!!!!
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Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...
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I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been
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Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved
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Okay let's start shipping!!!!
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I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.
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Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?
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I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...
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Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.
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How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?
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I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.
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I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

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Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!
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They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.
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speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.
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....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....
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....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)
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That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.
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I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!
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Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.
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I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.
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Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.
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It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.
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Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!
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Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.
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It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!
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