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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • lowspark75
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    Going back a few topics because I just woke up.. I also listened to the '79 from boxzilla last night at work.. that's the "'79 Trip" i was referring to when addressing keithfan's playlist. Reading it again, I realize it might have been interpreted as the '79 Road Trip.. which I've never heard. I did, however, forget to put the third disc of the '79 show on my phone, so I only got to hear 2/3 of that show last night... D'oh!
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    Waiting for the stick, I feel your pain with lack of communication. On the other hand, when I check my order on the site, it still says backordered expected ship date 10/31/15. So maybe they think that is sufficient in the communication department, only they undermined themselves by getting a lot of boxes out to people earlier than what I understand the check order info had on the site for the boxes. Halloween is only 8 days away now. But if Dave's 16 arrives before the stick, I would consider that a rather large fail on the part of friends here. PATIENCE, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue. ~Ambrose Bierce (1842 - ?)
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    Liner notes off on a couple Boxzilla...'66, '68, '75.
    A couple small nits from the 1st third of the big box, a couple small errors in the lists/notes. For, 1966 they claim Minglewood as a GD song when it is most definitely a cover, be it Noah Lewis or Cannon's Jug Stompers/Traditional. For 1969, they list Disc 2 as track 2. St. Stephen > 3. The Eleven Jam. It's clearly the full Eleven. The lyrics actually start on track 2, then there is a jam at the start of track 3, and then more Eleven lyrics in that track, before going into Lovelight. For 1975, no attribution to Matt Kelly on harmonica on Music Never Stopped and BIODTL and he can clearly be heard. Just some small stuff, but errors for certain. No detraction from the enjoyment to be sure, but claiming a cover as yours and not crediting another musician who played on the tracks are certainly mistakes of a sort.
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    FWIW, I also got charged the full amount well before the Box shipped. I got the delay email, then in September got charged anyway, with no real notification of when it would ship. A couple days before it arrived I did get a 'your order has shipped' email from GD site. Don't know if this matches other people who got the box or not, but just wanted to let you know this charged/no idea when shipping thing happened to people who got the box as well. It was probably 3 weeks or so from the charge to the arrival.
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    The discussion here got me to wondering, so I went through Boxzilla and here is how the credits for recording breakdown: Rex Jackson = 1 - '71 Kidd Candelario = 2 - '73, '74 John Cutler = 3 = '89, '94, '95 Betty Cantor-Jackson = 3 - '75, '77, '78 Bear = 4 - '66, '69, '70, '72 Dan Healy = 16 - '67, '76, '79, '80, '81, '82, '83, '84, '85, '86, '87, '88, '90, '91, '92, '93 The '68 show is credited to the Grateful Dead Thems the facts so make of them what you will Rock on
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    I ordered the USB. No word yet. When I got the ‘delay’ email in September, I figured, well OK I waited this long, what’s the difference. But I got charged the $700 and now have no surety when it will get shipped. Getting charged with no transparency as to why/when is what bugs me. The people on the phone are nice, but by what they say they think the streaming link should keep me satisfied. I’m not set up for streaming on my main system. That may sound odd for someone who ordered the USB, but that’s the way it is. So a bit of a downer for something that I was on the fence about ordering anyway…. On a better note, the best Donna harmonizing I know is UJB 5-19-77. Done really well.
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    72 is a very diverse year with many different sounding incarnations. The fall of 72 is perhaps the absolute apex of this great band. They are firing on all cylinders and just killing it night after night. Some of my all time favorite shows are from the fall of 72. Dick's picks 11,23 and 36 are insanely good. Dave's 11 is otherworldly, The Hofheinz PITB, I could go on and on. It's my favorite tour. Contrast that with the insanely dialed in band that took Europe by storm and put down one of the best runs any group has ever had or ever will have. Totally different sounding band with PIG still layin it down and providing organ and harmonica. ANY show from the fall of 72 has my immediate attention! HA. I didn't get the box but I would love to hear the 72 show from it one day.
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    ....i do get your point. Having seen - well estimated - 300 plus shows since 1982 ( everything from Crosby, Stills, Nash to Pink Floyd , Deep Purple, Neil Young , Warren Haynes , even Moe ) i still travel up to 400 miles to see a gig i like to see. My lady does come with me whenever she wants to but not so does my son - i had tix for Santana open air this summer , he had nothing better to do but he just said" i don`t feel like ". You are right , Derek Trucks is a magician of his own , catched the TTB live some two years ago in Munich , they smoked and had lots of good vibes......and still i hope for Phil or/and Bobby to cross the ocean once again. Btw, todays listening was 92 - beautiful DS - very fine piano , very athmospheric , have to relisten agin....
  • drpryan
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    When Will Ga and Fl get theirs?
    No UPS choice date and no dead net ship (still says backordered). Ordered within three hours of announcement on 2 Jun (3+17 to be exact) so it can't be shipped in order of order dates. Just send an update that it will ship in a week, two weeks , a month or even next year. Communicate please
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    Who Are We? Went to see Tedeschi Trucks Band Wednesday Night. IMO, they may be the best touring music unit on the planet now. Go see them. Wore my 1987 Ventura County T-shirt to the show. Show was made up of some old timers (casual - I mean folks into their 80's), old timers (sportsters with their blazers, the folks who worshipped money too much when they were young and now realize they missed a lot of action), old and young hippies and freaks. As I am walking in I spot 1 guy and 2 girls all dreaded out. The guy was probably 19 and the girls maybe 16 and 18. We smile and waive as I am walking in. The guy is giving the traditional dead finger wave. So I go back and talk for a minute. They are looking for that miracle and selling some home made jewelry. So I am feeling groovy and kind, so I go to the ticket booth. Find out 3 tickets for the balcony were $36 (total not apiece). So I go back to them and tell them if interested I will buy them 3 balcony tickets. They turned me down. Said that have an after party to go to. Huh? They were not interested. Just do not understand. You look the part, asking for the miracle; but then you reject the offer. Now to be fair, they never heard the ticket price. They also stated they did not want 1 person to have to buy all 3 tickets. As I walked away I said 3 times - the tickets are cheap, cheap. Oh well. Missed a blazing show. TTB had Cedell Davis and Brethren open. Mr. Davis is one of the last of the old timer blues guys born in 1927. The Brethren came out and played a couple of down and dirty blues songs, very intense. Then they wheel Mr. Davis out in a wheel chair with full suit and tie on. He was incredible. It was so fun to see an old blues guy get his turn. The crowd was very appreciative. Gave him multiple standing ovations. You could see it was moving to him. Thank you Susan and Derek for bringing him along. He even went to his merch table and signed autographs and shook hands. Shook his hand and said thanks so much! I love how music has retrenched. Love that TTB was in a 2,000 seat concert hall. It was awesome that the Brethren were in the halls having a beer talking to folks in between sets. So much better than a stadium or even an arena. I would say the average age of the crowd was close to 60, wow. Went and saw Yes in this same hall 2 years ago and the average age was closer to 70. Truly the wheelchair and crutches crowd. Hope I can still make it when I am that old. Awesome Awesome night. European and Australian heads TTB is heading your way. Go see them. Support Live Music! Fortunately Susan and Derek are well grounded. They know how to party and keep it all in check. Being around Derek's Uncle and Greg Allman, they have warned of the pitfalls of the lifestyle. So since they appear well grounded, they should have a long time making music for us. Susan was phenomenal, Derek was of course Derek. I now understand why he left the Allman Brothers to focus on his band. Salute Derek Salute! Oh yeah, got to spend time talking to Derek's dad (Butch Trucks brother). Passed a message on to please tell Butch and Greg to not retire ABB until their 50th in 4 years. He said he would pass it on. Very nice guy. I snuck into the hall around 2 pm. I spoke with him the first time then as he was just finishing lunch and was setting up TBB merch table. Great family vibe. Wierd, the sound engineers were doing sound check, but the band was not there. Sound check using live tapes of the band to measure the hall's accoustic response. Very interesting to see that. Got to speak with the FOH engineer for a few minutes after the show. Should have taped, what was I thinking. Oh yeah, had a young head ask me about the shows in Ventura. He had gone to Santa Clara. He was probably 21. Gave him my number, told him to call sometime. Show review link: http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/10/tedeschi_trucks_band_…
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.
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Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....
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....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....
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They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on
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Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...
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220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!
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Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.
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17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.
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I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??
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It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on
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Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...
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I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been
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Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved
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Okay let's start shipping!!!!
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I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.
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Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?
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I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...
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Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.
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How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?
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I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.
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I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

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Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!
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They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.
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speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.
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....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....
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....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)
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That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.
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I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!
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Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.
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I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.
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Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.
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It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.
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Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!
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Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.
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It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!
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