30 Trips Around The Sun Box & Digital USB

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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October 17, 2015 - 8:24am

#2171

drpryan

Joined:
June 9, 2007

Took down the link, No love in Florida

I just went to the order status page and now my order status went from back ordered to no status at all. The link to listen to the shows is also gone. I called Dead net and was informed that 1200 orders are still out there, and the best they can tell us is the end of the month. Dr. Rhino really blew this one with whom ever is doing the shipping, but more so with keeping the "unshipped" updated. Since my status did change form back ordered to no status, something changed. Be nice to know what it is. Maybe I'll receive Dave Picks before the 30 trips????
October 17, 2015 - 8:23am

#2172

Cactus_Jack

Joined:
May 3, 2012

So Far

Out of the pre hiatus shows, so Far I've really liked 67, 68, & 73. Those are the ones I've listened to most. 67 for all the reasons already mentioned. Fierce & hungry jams. Truly awesome 68 has been a real treat. This is the sound that I love & the recording is pristine. Tuning issues at the beginning of Lovelight but that straightens out eventually. The Dark Star has long been one of my favorites for it's sharp playing & strong transitions. Immaculate Version. What a sound. The Guitar is still wild & pigpen is rippin. Might be my favorite show in the box despite its length. 69 is great too but the vocal flub in Dark star takes it down a notch for me. The playing is pretty on this one, slightly more tame than 68 & has the same intimacy associated with THELMA I thought I would like the 74 version more but I've been gravitating more towards 73 for repeat listens. I prefer that laid back/mellow country sound to the deep space exploratory funk of 74 or whatever you might call it. Still fantastic though. Haven't really digested 72, 75, or 66 yet. (working my way towards the 72 Dark Star, saving the best for last???). And 70 was just okay for me at first listen, really disliked the feedback on everything before "technical difficulties". Hard to handle, on the other hand, really gets things going (Pig & Bobby!). Not sure how I feel about 71 either, love the Caution tho. These are just initial reactions I'm sure my opinions will change/grow/evolve as I keep spinnin these discs...
October 17, 2015 - 8:20am

#2173

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Mountain Jam/SimonRob

I am unsure and am trying to work it out this weekend. I think I hear the initial formation of Donovan's "There is a Mountain" on the 1966 Midnight Hour. If this is true, this might be the genesis of that spectacular jam vehicle. It would put to rest where did the riff come from. Would love to be able to lock that down as Jerry's musings. I know Donovan became a psychedelic freak sometime in late 1966 or early 1967. "There is a Mountain" came out in July 1967, I think. Does any know if he ever played a concert directly with GOGD? Well more next week, will probably spend the rest of the weekend just digesting the box. Hope more will get home today and hope all are within 72 hours of the spiritual lift! G
October 17, 2015 - 8:10am

#2174

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Thanks Folks

Again just want to say thanks folks for all the great posts. I also have some headphone researchin to do. Will try to start that next week. The posts just make me bust out laughing sometimes. Most of you folks are truly a hoot! Thanks for the positive vibes for the boxless. So glad more are hitting home. I am blown away by 66 and 67. Have not gotten off of them yet. 68 today. Still trying to hit Alain's show from E72 this weekend. Surfeiting on GOGD, and the things that go with that.
October 17, 2015 - 8:05am

#2175

Gary Farseer

Joined:
August 1, 2015

Phil much Love

Get well Phil. I consider you Papa Brother. Thanks for lighting the path for us all. Positive thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery!
October 17, 2015 - 5:03am

#2176

mustin321

Joined:
August 12, 2011

Its 7:37am in Indianapolis

Woke up...(wake n' baked)...and popped on 2/22/69...The Dream Bowl...popped on my ShureSRH750DJ headphones...pretty good morning so far. I'm slowly getting through this box. I know its been said before but I feel it can't be said enough. The 1967 show...I'm only just now to the 69 show because I spent a week listening to 11/10/67. The sound quality, the playing, the energy, the jams, etc...Its all just prime time Grateful Dead. The 67 show alone is almost worth the price of admission. I really don't think its fair that it is not a stand alone release. Its too good. I like how disc 1 is all covers and disc 2 is all originals. I also like how there are several songs that got played throughout the bands entire career. Beat it on down the line, Morning Dew, The Other One... I think its going to be very easy getting through this box considering each show is so different from the next. The 68 show...short but sweet. I have nothing against T.C. but Pigpen doesn't sound like somebody that needed to replaced. Especially on Caution, he is just ripping it up on the Organ. And the way Pigpen sends off the audience with his unapologetic "Bye" is just exactly perfect. Just like Curly Bill Brocius' response in Tombstone when Wyatt Earp states he is leaving town. Anyways, enough rambling, back to the 69 show (good stuff) Get Well Soon Phil
October 17, 2015 - 3:54am

#2177

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Songs unsung

I was fascinated with the box when it arrived yesterday. As others have said, it seems somehow smaller than expected and it doesn't look like 80cds are packed in there. My box is no.1544, the ticket is 30/10.91 and the pass 21/8/93. I love the look and feel of the book, with its soft leather cover and embossed skull and roses imprint, but I cant be bothered with looking at the scroll yet.I started off reading the book, which really creates the mood for the music-Nicholas Meriwether ranks as the most thought provoking writer/anthologist ever to write about the Dead. He really enriches the scene. Anyway after reading up to 1967, I listened to the first show. Wow! Far better than I was expecting in terms of music and sound. It seems that Jerry plays faster than other guitarists from the era-maybe his style was based on bluegrass playing rather than ubiquitous blues based on BB/Freddie/Albert King in vogue at the time. I like the organ sound on this early show, too. Maybe because I always associated the sound of an organ with church, I always think it adds a trippy edge to 60s rock music-irrespective as to what is actually played. I will definitely be playing more 1966 shows from now on. Today I started on 1967. Good though 1966 was-this is when it really starts to fly! Hope you all have a good day listening!
October 17, 2015 - 2:25am

#2178

antonjo

Joined:
June 4, 2007

7/03/66

At last I got to sit down, sip Scotch and savor my first show of the box, 7/03/66. What a gem. Great pick, Dave. Sizzles right out of the gate with Nobody's Fault But Mine...if only there were more, but there's just enough for a good taste, a penetrating first impression as the time machine drops you into summer '66. The boundaries of the Phil Zone have barely begun to expand but the playful & probing exuberance that would burst them ere long is on display.... Phil cooks on Top of the World. Jerry's uncommonly loquacious between songs.... The most expansive Cream Puff War I've heard ~ never had a favorite version till now. All kinds of organ, and assured energy, from Pigpen.... And a familiar, always welcome voice at the very end to raise an extra toast to Pig. I was surprised this wasn't the same Keep Rolling By as on Birth of the Dead.... What a treat to have a second live Tastebud, too, and this has to be the earliest Dancin' I've heard (with righteous harmonies, I might add). I'd swear the tempo of Next Time You See Me speeds up after the solos...but they were a young band, after all. (There's a comical stumbling & restart of the beat during Dancin'...they get right back on that horse.) First show is a golden nug. This journey is going to be fun.
October 17, 2015 - 1:57am

#2179

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

@DaveStrang 30 Trips 2013

You're most welcome! As to the mystery of dates and locations: If you downloaded from the link I posted below, then you will need to find the dates and locations manually, but if you downloaded from the Dropbox linked that I PM's you, those are mp3 files after I loaded them into my music library, so if you look at the mp3 ID tags you will find the date of each file in it's "comment" tag. You can then find the location by looking up the dates on the live music archive :) Or, of course, you can go through the fun of trying to figure each one out one :) Did you get them from the link posted here first, or from the dropbox link I PM'd you? EDIT: And Good Morning (Evening) Dantian!!!
October 17, 2015 - 1:53am

#2180

dantian

Joined:
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Um, Good Evening Wjonjd!

Haven't gone to bed yet, I work nights ;) Nice to see you, brother!

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

24 Box Sets Left

I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.

O.K....

Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....

The packaging....

....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....

Only 22 boxes left

They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on

Moses Quasar

Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...

220 left

220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!

Jed

Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.

Countdown

17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.

One Man - LLR

I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??

11 boxes left now

It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on

10 it's raining looks like rain

One of my fav's. I've ALWAYS thought 4/16/83 was the best one ever done. You want rain on the roof,,, this is the one. https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-16.sbd.miller.28294.sbeok.flacf I had a shit tape for years, was so happy when I found a soundboard by Charlie.

it's raining looks like rain

Only 8 left

Get 'em while their hot!!!!

Down to 5

5 left!!

4

3

2 2 - oops

Back to 3

3 again

2 oh, to have disposable income

i'd grab this sumbitch

Fillmore 1966.07.03

Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...

Can't wait .. Hurry up

I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been

gone

Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved

SOLD OUT

Okay let's start shipping!!!!

Hooray!

I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.

Unbelievable

Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?

Now that it's sold out...

I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...

Accidental Cancellation

Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.

Now that it's sold out...

How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?

Artwork for CD cases

I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.

ebay

I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: Artwork for CD cases

Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.

re: ebay

I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

Hey Spacebro

Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!

Still sold out

They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.

wow.

speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.

30 Trips physical is a done deal.....

....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....

Cancelled order....

....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)

30 Trips Artwork

That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.

Re: 30 trips artwork

I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!

Comments on this page are no longer accessible from main page

Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.

Show discussion forum

I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.

Dusty.rambler

A suggestion to go here: http://www.dead.net/shows-by-yearI'll meet you there. That section of the site is begging for traffic.

Now the BIG ? IS.....

Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.

boblopes...

It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.

Shows by year

Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!

50th anniversary box set

Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.

yeah

It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!

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