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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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November 13, 2015 - 12:03pm

#1231

Sixtus_

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...and I Shall Repent

...and thus I shall find salvation. St. Stephen queued up, Estimated Prophets to follow! Thanks for the compassionate understanding of my festering morality question. Man it feels good to come clean after all these years. I suppose if that is indeed my biggest offense things will prolly turn out alright. Sixtus
November 13, 2015 - 11:19am

#1232

dantian

Joined:
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Brother Sixtus

Play 6 St. Stephens and 4 Estimated Prophets, this shall be your penance...
November 13, 2015 - 10:59am

#1233

JimInMD

Joined:
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Re: sixtus

Dammit sixtus - I knew it was you, I knew it was you all along! I want my tape back you rat bastard! I leant a box of tapes to a friend back in high school.. it had several of my choice possessions, one being a crisp '76 Chicago Auditorium tape with a wonderful Mission in the Rain. The bastard never returned the box. (you know who you are, Mark L.). I didn't listen to a Mission in the Rain that good until I discovered LMA a little more than a decade ago. That was in the pre-car, pre-job lawn cutting days, so a box of tapes actually took some scratch to save up for. I knew the guy.. much like a coke-head who owes you money.. he simply started avoiding me. I guess we can laugh at it now.
November 13, 2015 - 10:57am

#1234

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Tape Karma

..at least it was only your pinky finger. Must have been some high gen. aud's.
November 13, 2015 - 10:52am

#1235

Zuckfun

Joined:
March 18, 2010

Tapes cont'd

Yeah, if the worst offense is swiping a bootleg tape from someone, you're probably ahead of most of us. Awhile ago, a friend lent me a dozen or so tapes- He was by far my greatest connection to high quality recordings. On my way to the car with the tapes, while it was raining, I dropped the box in the parking lot. The tapes sprawled out on the ground in the rain. To this day, he keeps my pinky finger in a jar by his bedside table, as a warning and reminder to fellow travelers. I was always like, who needs the pinky finger anyways. Actually, the tapes mostly survived the incident, unfortunate though it was.
November 13, 2015 - 10:21am

#1236

Sixtus_

Joined:
November 8, 2014

The Cornell Tape...and Does this Make Me a Bad Person?

So for the longest time I’ve sat on this story, and when I think back on it, I of course realize that it goes against essentially every grain of goodness within the GD’s community, but on the flip side, I was pretty young, uninformed (obviously) and totally naive. But, since this topic has now miraculously surfaced on this awesome board, I will now relay the story of how I acquired the Cornell show on Maxell XLII, many many years ago. I was 14 years old, and hitch hiking, for the first time ever, with my older brother on Martha’s Vineyard during summer time, just looking for someone nice to pick us up and bring us somewhere, anywhere there may be action. We weren’t at all familiar with the island, but for those who may be, there is this little community of homes that look like gingerbread houses – that’s the only way I can describe it – very ornate outsides, with lots of colors, steep roofs, etc. Well, our ride dropped us in the vicinity of this little community so we began wandering around. Wouldn’t you know, one house was having a party, and some guys, older than us, invited us up and handed us beers. And, you guessed it, GD was playing. At the time, I was still totally naive to anything beyond a few albums like Live Dead and Europe 72 as well as of course their studio stuff. But what I heard coming from their boombox was pristine GD, and clearly in a live setting as they were going nutty and just jamming like mad. I recall looking at the small pile of tapes on the floor, and the one that was playing was indeed Cornell ’77. I was awestruck. As the night went on, and I consumed more beers, I feel like I must have gotten a little more confident. Because I clearly recall that on our way out of that house party, I stopped and took the Cornell Tape – the 2nd Set – and secretly reveled in the amazing find I just acquired, albeit via an essentially & completely immoral path. Nonetheless, I came back home and immediately shared it with my couple of buddies who also happened to like the Dead. We were all just blown away by this recording – not only what was being played, but of course the quality was like listening to a CD. From the moment I acquired this tape, despite the questionable method, I have never looked back and have been on the quest to get as much of this stuff as I could. Looking back on it, I am not at all proud of the fact I ‘permanently borrowed’ someone’s killer copy, maybe their only copy back then, of this fabled show. But what I also realize is that it was a personal turning point for me in the history and lore of the wake that this band created, and for that I am incredibly thankful. And, furthermore, now that I am older, I make it a point to share share share and turn people on to this thing I was so lucky to have stumbled upon even when I didn’t understand the significance of the stumble. I hope I can be forgiven by this wonderful community, as this has been something I have always wanted to get off my chest and hope I can now move past it....so I ask, does this make me a bad person? Sixtus, shamefully
November 13, 2015 - 9:56am

#1237

JimInMD

Joined:
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Big Box Blues

Did I mention I hate Apple? I literally just finished ripping all the CD's from Boxzilla. Low and behold.. my last ITunes 'update' changed my settings to lossy from lossless (ALAC). Fortunately.. its just the Box and Dave's 16 that are affected.. Unfortunately.. I had a good bit of time into this. Did I mention I hate Apple? Sorry.. but besides overpriced products they have become sucky the last couple years... Time to reburn and set up some Physical Therapy for the carpal tunnel I will surely develop after importing all this stuff and getting it 'exactly perfect.' Did I mention Apple sucks?
November 13, 2015 - 8:40am

#1238

Zuckfun

Joined:
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Tapes cont'd

Thanks for the interesting insights into the tape trading community. Perhaps there is still some effort to prevent some music from circulating. It's been years since the Archive allowed soundboards to be downloaded. And there's the recent example of the previously missing soundboard copy to 3/26/72, which then appeared on the Archive just a few days after 3/26/72 was officially released as DP14. Though these days, with torrent sites, and the ease with which digital media is shared and spread, any attempts to prevent the spread of music seems largely symbolic. Then again, I really don't know much about these things.
November 13, 2015 - 7:38am

#1239

TheDude77

Joined:
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About to place an order....

...and noticed that there's free shipping on orders over $75 for the month of November.
November 13, 2015 - 7:14am

#1240

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

tape trading culture

The gap method of marking tapes was usually not for GD tapes and started with Mike Millard who would create drop outs during different songs for every copy he made and kept notes of the "flaws" to tell who allowed his tape into circulation. This was so he could blacklist them from the southern California trading circles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Millard The Latvala "tags" were usually an additional cassette gen before the DAT, their lineage would be SBD MR>C1>DAT. Eaton would add a 2nd cassette gen to his seeds before allowing them to slip into circulation, these would be SBD MR> C1>DAT> C, he would seed these on a GD trading group called section 9 on Compuserve. None of the reel transfers done by Eaton have ever slipped into circulation and are in the vault. These are the source of the 1972 Academy of Music shows. When Dick died GDM went after the people that had copies of Dick's SBD MR>C1>DATs and threatened legal action if the tapes made it into circulation. I know one person that John Cutler, who he didn't know, called and demanded the return of the DATs he had gotten from Dick, who used to send out copies to friends on future potential Dick's Picks. These recordings are known as the Dick Leaks and considered "hush tapes" not to be traded publicly. The Betty tapes in circulation come from the "Unindicted Conspirators" who shared the PCMs made from the reels on DAT in the late 1980's and became the WBOTB project in the late 1990's. They have a lineage of SDB MR>PCM>DAT Eaton finally started sharing his DATs, not the Betty's reels he transferred though, via Charlie Miller in the last 10 years. In the 1990's there was a more GD related type of hoarding that involved allowing shows circulating in DAT to be shared on cassettes, which was degrading the quality of the recordings in circulation by letting cassette generations into the lineage. These people were the "gene pool" crowd and would only trade with people who had the expensive DAT equipment and shut off people that made cassettes for friends and tainted the gene pool. It was these elitists that also fought against allowing the DATs to be transferred to CDs, using the same excuse of tainting the gene pool.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

24 Box Sets Left

I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.

O.K....

Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....

The packaging....

....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....

Only 22 boxes left

They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on

Moses Quasar

Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...

220 left

220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!

Jed

Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.

Countdown

17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.

One Man - LLR

I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??

11 boxes left now

It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on

10 it's raining looks like rain

One of my fav's. I've ALWAYS thought 4/16/83 was the best one ever done. You want rain on the roof,,, this is the one. https://archive.org/details/gd83-04-16.sbd.miller.28294.sbeok.flacf I had a shit tape for years, was so happy when I found a soundboard by Charlie.

it's raining looks like rain

Only 8 left

Get 'em while their hot!!!!

Down to 5

5 left!!

4

3

2 2 - oops

Back to 3

3 again

2 oh, to have disposable income

i'd grab this sumbitch

Fillmore 1966.07.03

Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...

Can't wait .. Hurry up

I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been

gone

Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved

SOLD OUT

Okay let's start shipping!!!!

Hooray!

I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.

Unbelievable

Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?

Now that it's sold out...

I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...

Accidental Cancellation

Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.

Now that it's sold out...

How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?

Artwork for CD cases

I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.

ebay

I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: Artwork for CD cases

Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.

re: ebay

I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

Hey Spacebro

Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!

Still sold out

They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.

wow.

speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.

30 Trips physical is a done deal.....

....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....

Cancelled order....

....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)

30 Trips Artwork

That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.

Re: 30 trips artwork

I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!

Comments on this page are no longer accessible from main page

Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.

Show discussion forum

I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.

Dusty.rambler

A suggestion to go here: http://www.dead.net/shows-by-yearI'll meet you there. That section of the site is begging for traffic.

Now the BIG ? IS.....

Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.

boblopes...

It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.

Shows by year

Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!

50th anniversary box set

Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.

yeah

It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!

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