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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • KYTrips
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    You people...
    ... really are a collective wealth of information. Thanks.
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    I also have the 160gb iPod that would be overfilled with all my Dead, Dead-related, and other music uploaded to it. To deal with that, I created a Smart Playlist in iTunes that I set to pull 10,000 random songs from my 35,000 song iTunes library. You then set your iPod to synch to the Smart Playlist. 10,000 songs synch and I'm ready to go. Every week or so, I go back into iTunes, highlight and delete all songs in that Smart Playlist and it automatically re-fills another 10,000 songs. I then synch my iPod again and the new 10,000 are added. Of course, this only works if you are comfortable with the random nature of shows being pulled. I can listen to the Dead on random, but I know that some people want to listen to whole shows from start to finish. This can be done with this method. But, for me, it beats having to keep track of mulitple iPods.
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    I really want apple music to work for me. There are a lot of things I like about it, but more that really piss me off. Maybe I'm not doing it right. If I turn on icloud music library on my phone it f's up all my cover art -- trying to match it to something it's not. I actually tried last night on my ipad just to see if it had been fixed. Nope. All my recently imported 30 trips covers were blown away. I made the horrible mistake of enabling icloud music library on my PC originally -- metadata got butchered. Had a backup though so I was good. Would love to have this enabled so I could pull in playlists and other artists that I don't have in my personal collection. Thoughts?
  • DJMac520
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    Is really not a bad way to have all of your iTunes loaded GD collection accessible on an iPhone downloadable from the cloud. One time yearly fee and well worth it IMO. Makes having a 128GB phone perfect as I can still get a LOT of shows on there that are go-to listens often, then download others from the cloud as needed.
  • Sixtus_
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    KYTrips and your iPod dilemma
    ...so the settings on your iTunes need to be set in such a way as to either manage your music manually, or automatically. If the latter, this means that anytime you plug in your iPod, it will automatically check your iTunes and then sync to whatever is in the library. So if you have it set to automatically sync, if you remove music from your iTunes library, when you sync it, it will mimic your library and therefore remove the music from the ipod. If you have iTunes set to manage your music manually, you can simply go into your ipod when it is hooked up and delete the songs from there, or the playlists, or however you have it setup. The quicker way, but less control, is to have iTunes automatically sync. I don't do this though, because it can have devastating effects if you aren't fully paying attention. I recall when I first got my initial ipod, I didn't understand this feature and couldn't figure out why my ipod would get wiped every time I hooked it up. it was a bit of a learning process.... JimInMD - thanks for the feedback on other type of players, I really have zero knowledge outside of the ipod, but it seems the memory card swapping is a great alternative for that other player you've mentioned...
  • Rambler
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    I filled up my 160gb ipod classic a couple of years ago and ended up buying a second one before they discontinued them. Now, I have one that is for the Dead and Jerry stuff only, and a little Bobby as well. The other one is filled with all the other music I listen to with a few of my favorite Dead and JGB selections in case I end up in a situation where I only have that one with me. I refuse to allow myself to get into a situation where I'm without at least some Dead (then again there's always youtube in a pinch). A guy I work with has a SanDisk clip, not sure which model. He loves it. Sound is good compared to my ipod. They take a micro SD card as well. It's nice and compact and the UI isn't terrible. I've thought about going that direction and having different cards for the different stuff, but I'm happy with my setup. It's definitely in the back of my head as an option when one of my ipods dies. Hopefully by the time I need to change my way there will be a better option out there for my needs.
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    Got a snazzy 30 Trips sticker with my copy of Daves Picks 16. Still no word on the actual USB but at least I got a sticker right?
  • JimInMD
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    I am in the process of kicking my IPod collections to the curb. I bought a FiiOs I for $99 off Amazon. It takes MicroSD cards, so you just need one player and you can sub out the music by switching chips. A 128 gb MicroSD costs about $50 to $60. I just filled up my third, and I don't have boxzilla on it yet. It sounds better, its louder and it plays more music types (specifically flac, so enter High Def). The downside is its a bit thicker and the software is a bit clunkier. If your IPod is like driving a mini-cooper, this is like driving a rider rental truck. But its ok, the interface is sort of like Windows File Manager (Windows Explorer). Its not like driving an 18 wheeler or anything.. like driving a small truck with automatic transmission. I didn't feel like springing the $350+ for a Pono player.. so there you have it. I also upgraded earbuds too, but that's perhaps another conversation for another day. ______ I just read all the threads below.. too funny. I probably have five or six operating 160 gb IPods (probably a dozen if you count the broken ones and the 120 gb, 40 gb, dead units) plus several waterproof shuffles. Fear not! Having a $50 128 gb chip you can swap out is a big advantage over having several units. Plus, you don't have to rely on Apple's sync software in ITunes, which will eventually fuck up your music (trust me on this). Just copy the folders into your FiiO and your good to go. I'm a bit tired of my overpriced IPhone too.. but don't let me get off on a rant.
  • KYTrips
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    I feel your pain, Sixtus. I'm nearing the "fill-up" point on my 160 GB iPod and it makes me nervous.... And Boxzilla isn't even on it yet. Question for all you tech-savy Heads out there (of which I am, undoubtedly, not one). I have a TON of music on my iTunes on my laptop, which is, of course, what I sync my iPod with. However, much of that music I could truly live without, as I have the physical CDs, and some stuff I rarely listen to. So ... the question is... if I remove this music from my iTunes, and then synch my iPod, will that music then be deleted from iPod, thereby freeing up much needed space for additional music (i.e. more Grateful Dead!)? Thanks in advance for any info.
  • Sixtus_
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    USBers and my iPod Woes
    to the VERY PATIENT (in concept) USB folks....hope you get your spoils soon, it seems their solo monkey writing up the box labels is now getting it right in ATL, which seems will then lead the way to the monkey packing up your 'Bolt and getting it out...hopefully more than one at a time. In other news, as I was pulling a bunch of '91 down onto my iPod last night (Kayak Guy is THE MAN), I received the dreaded "Not all of the songs will fit onto your iPod" message....Noooooooooooooooo!!!! This is my second iPod (160GB), so I had to immediately go online and find another one and whaddya know, Apple discontinued these things (not sure why that is, cause my phone simply wont hold the volume of music I need to have at my disposal at any given moment). So of course they are now quite expensive but hey I had to bite the bullet. Nothing worse than having the treasure volume on an HD but unable to make it portable. I know, first world problems. But these are important issues people! Sixtus
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

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I hope there isn't going to be too many people regretting not buying. I want to see the inside of this box, how the CD's are packed and pictures of the book really bad.
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Gearing up some shows waiting for this box...daves 8, dicks 13, and dicks 32 which are shows all around shows in "Boxzilla"... just passing the time!....
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....I believe that the discs will be presented ala DaP with a hard foam laser cut "case" with slots ala a firearm case or something to hold a collection of Toy Story dolls ala Toy Story 2. Or they might be presented with a May '77 setup. Who knows? No Road Trips please!!....
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They have been going fast this week end. Should be sold out tomorrow or Tuesday at the latest. I guess we will not see the inside of the box until the postman delivers it in 3 weeks. Can't wait. Rock on
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Don't skip 7-28-82. A fantastic show, not officially released but great nonetheless. A fantastic TLEO. A top choice for release if you asked me. Funny, I haven't really latched on the other Red Rocks '82 shows yet, but this one has always been a favorite since I've been listening on tapes. Gotta get to those other ones myself just to hear if they capture the magic...
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220 left - the 200 I ordered I've cancelled as didn't think I'd make enough profit back... Just kidding....but I might have a spare (through mis-ordering) taking offers over $1500 in 6 months lol Now where's the goddamn pictures of the inside!!
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Our friend from Tennessee doesn't need me to defend him, BUT I'll say there is a place in that one for Jerry to soar. It's in the instrumental bridge part, where he often starts off with a carnival theme and often ends somewhere I could not have predicted. Not all of them achieve lift off, but many of them do. The repetition of the verse licks can be a little tedious if you're not in the mood for it. But that song would be far from making my list of "wish they never wrote it". That honor would go to LLR for me, at least in terms of songs from early on.
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17 days until the ELEPHANTINE box ships.
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I would agree that LLR can often be, um, pedestrian. But, I still remember being in the car as a teenager in 1979 sometime hearing that tune for the first time on a tape when my brother mentioned "doesn't Jerry's playing there sound just like rain pitter pattering deliciously over your mind?" Wish I could remember what tape it was. A Tempe tape, maybe. Anyway, since then I've heard a few versions where they blow the roof off bringing that tune to its end. Now, El Paso - maybe some of those early ones could get creative, but it never did much for any of the shows I was at. I would put it on my list before LLR. Did someone already put Day Job on the list??
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It is only a few hours now until "Sold Out" gets posted Rock on
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Get 'em while their hot!!!!
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Slight change of subject from the countdown... I have deadbase 50 and have been wasting lots of time with it. I looked up the Fillmore 1966.07.03 show from this box and on Deadbase XI it has a setlist that matches a copy of this show that I have (I only have the first half). The additions to the Setlist on the deadbase 50 section changes "He was a Friend of Mine" to "Just a Hand to Hold." The copy of the show I have looks like only the first disc, so I'm missing the end of the show... however, it does have "he was a friend of mine" although, it almost sounds like it was from a different show... there is dead space at the end of the track and the sound quality of this song doesn't match the rest. Does anyone else have a copy of this show and have the same experience? Also, what is "just a hand to hold..." Never heard it. just killing time waiting for the big box...
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I am thrilled I got my box set , wish my father were still with us to enjoy it, he took me to my 1st dead show at 10. What a long strange trip it's been
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Finally. At least now those that can't afford it can lose the temptation. I am relieved
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Okay let's start shipping!!!!
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I couldn't agree with you more. I feel relief that it's finally sold out. I have known since the day it was announced I would not be able to get it and now I can finally stop scheming and dreaming of ways to make it happen. Should I just open up a credit card my wife doesn't know about and get it? Is this worth getting a divorce over? Ha! Congrats to all those that will have this treasure trove coming their way in mere days! Enjoy! I will get the 4 Disc compilation and be happy to have it.
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Already on eBay, COMPLETE box for $1,195.00, FREE shipping, 10 watching per hour, it doesn't take long, does it?
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I'm getting worried that my order accidentally got canceled... Just paranoia...
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Same thing here Dusty.rambler. I went through and double checked my order when there was about 10 left.
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How about a little more info on the box, if we can't get any pictures? Who did the artwork? Are all the CD covers by the same artist? Are they digipacks, sleeves, those DVD sized things from the 1977 box or something new and even more difficult to be put a shelf with the other CDs? Is the box number going to be on the single? What is the "box" constructed with? Does it really contain a scale version of the cardboard cut out that was inducted into the R&R Hall of fame? Does it ship on the 18th or is that the day it is scheduled to arrive?
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I think it would be really cool if the artwork for each show was a reproduction of the poster or flyer for each event. I've done this for my catalog of shows and always think that the artwork of the show helps me feel the vibe for the show better. New original art would be cool, but as this box documents the Dead's journey through time, I think artwork from the time of the show would be cool.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see these (complete sets, not broken up) going upwards of $2000 or even more in second hand markets after they start shipping. An investors wet dream if you are one of "those" types of people, and with lots 'o money. Myself, it's all about the music and my personal enjoyment of listening to it, which to me is priceless with no monetary value. I see investors and salesmen as those with no real emotional attachment to the product. Just the money they can squeeze out of it...not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Yes that would be cool to have the actual poster art as part of the cover. The later tours didn't have many show specific posters, but they always had a nice tour poster with contemporary poster artists that were worth grabbing.
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I guess having bought one I'm an investor, so with that in mind I hope many people sell individual shows from their boxes, for insane amounts of money.This will make my still complete set a better investment, that pays dividends every time I look at, play with or listen to it's contents. I wonder if it'll fit in my safe deposit box?

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Nice Seinfeld drop at the end!
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They didn't "have a few more left" this time (like DaP 15). I'm imaging if orders are canceled they will not offer them back for sale until everyone who ordered got one. This would give them spares for damaged products or dropped orders from their site crash when this thing first went up.
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speechless and grateful. faith in the human race restored... email box full, and one amazing friend on the eastern seaboard. it's why my musical life revolves around this band alone.
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....looks like Rhino's abacus was calibrated just right.... ....congrats Brian. I thought I saw your finger up in this Internet parking lot....you deserve it....
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....just checked mine. Says backordered but not cancelled, so I think I'm good. Dead.net has not failed me yet....(crossing fingers and toes. Ouch.)
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That question went unanswered..(at least when I asked it). I'm curious too, it can make the difference between something cool and something really special.
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I really like the art work from May 77' and from Spring 90 Too, however those were 5 and 8 shows respectively. The art for this 30 year box will hopefully be more diverse. I think both of the previously mentioned boxes really fit the time... How are they going to capture art from a 30 year span. This mystery makes me giddy just thinking about it, and now that we are so close to delivery, I say DONT give us a preview of the art. I can wait 3 weeks for a surprise!
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Was on main page and clicked the link to boxset and got everything on this page except the comments - waz up wit dat? Before this page goes away I am interested in a show by show discussion that someone mentioned earlier. Is this something Mary can pass on to the webmasters? I am planning to in sequential order from the start. Now that it's sold out, break out the videos discussing the shows please!!! Dave vs Wild! With special guest appearance by Bear Grylls showing Dave how to ride a whale with just a few of his bumperstickers and a 50th totebag.
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I brought this up a while ago and saw some interest. Would live to see that here or created elsewhere. I think it would be cool if 30 threads were available at all times so anyone could discuss the show they were listening to. I looked into creating a free forum and it's possible, but I don't have the time right now to invest (planning my wedding). If dead.net can't create this for us, can someone else take the lead here and find the right forum? Steve-something.tv was mentioned. I checked it out and was unimpressed as any topic can be created so it would be hard to find the various threads, but I'll go where the discussion is.
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Now that GARGANTUA has finally...SOLD OUT, will TPTB at least think about releasing each show individually, a la, E72 TCR, or is the consensus here on this forum is that's not going to happen? And while I'm at it why not a "sneak" peak at what's inside, inquiring minds (at least mine) would like to know what my $699.98+ TAX gets me.
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It seems the message board part is tied to the BOX SET.Because it's sold out, when you click the main page link, it brings you to the USB purchase page. No msg board. So go to store>Music. Click 30 trips box set. here you are.
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Thanks Wilfred. This section was recommended a while back, but the page wasn't working. I'd gladly use this space if it is operational!
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Now that it's sold out maybe they can start shipping it tomorrow? I can't believe there's still people that don't know what on this...it's 30 shows complete and they're 1 show from each year...they have the show and track list...let's put this way you'll be busy for at least a year listening to the 30 shows on top of the shows you have already...I assume 99% of the people who get Dave's picks got this one too...i'm kind of uneasy about the price but who can say it's cool I can pay 700$ with no problem it won't set me back much...a few lawyers and doctors maybe...but i'll be entertained for at least a year so it's worth it I guess...worth it where I couldn't pass it by either.
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It works, I check it every day. And, I think I'm the one that recommended it. Great reads, and you'll find mvp's everywhere (most valuable posters: e.g. 'hockey john') Good luck with your wedding planning. So glad I eloped!
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