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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
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October 18, 2015 - 9:00am

#2091

giantnerd

Joined:
June 24, 2007

Thanks team Rhino!!!

This box is clearly a labor of love and is spectacular!!! The jump between 66 and 67 is a quantum leap that can only be explained by alien intervention, and I am doing my best to go from start to finish to get the sense of their artistic development. My wife knew there was a contest so she (gasp!!!) opened my box set with the kids while I was at work. When I came home my kids ran to tell me they didn't find a prize in the box, so I asked them if they opened the secret complement. It blew their minds when I flipped open the lower flap and then I told them there was a book of spells and pulled out the "leather" bound book with the skeleton imprints and their jaw dropped. They believed me for a second, but then I told them it really wasn't a book of spells, but there was a secret scroll... Oh to be young and full of wonder. But the real reason I'm posting is that my buddy is a urologist as assures my that Mr. Lesh's diagnosis is very, very favorable and that he would expect him to recover fully from this. Get well soon Mr. Lesh!!!
October 18, 2015 - 8:56am

#2092

allman

Joined:
July 9, 2007

7/3/66 Disc One Question

On 7/3/66 Disc One, in the first few seconds of Dancing In The Streetis there a complete drop out of the right channel only leaving sound on the left channel for a second or two? Just asking to see if I need to ask for a replacement.
October 18, 2015 - 7:28am

#2093

ryanpm1976

Joined:
September 26, 2009

Story with 3/18/71?

3/18/71 is not listed in Taping Compendium and only second set listed in Deadbase. Is this show fairly new to circulation? Anyone know?
October 18, 2015 - 7:04am

#2094

purpleerik69

Joined:
May 24, 2015

Phil

be well soon , and thank you Mr Lesh for all the music and the enthusiasm you still invest in keeping the Dead alive.As i`m still waiting on my Boxzilla i roam through my collection of shows , today is Phil time in the Purple Zone......listen to that bass guitar tones an take a ride
October 18, 2015 - 6:45am

#2095

deadfeat1

Joined:
July 3, 2008

More Zacherlee and Headphones

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. During high school I can remember tuning in my old Sony radio to late night radio up and down the East Coast. I lived on a peninsula that jutted out in the Chesapeake Bay and I could tune in all sorts of stations late at night. WNEW stands out as does WBZ in Boston. I remember hearing new albums by the Ultimate Spinach and Beacon Street Union while listening to the "Boss sound of Bosstown on WBZ. Both stations turned me on to lots of great music. Washington, DC had a great station in WHFS, Home Grown Radio, broadcasting from high atop the towers in Bethesda, MD. Great radio back in the day! Some high value headphones you might want to consider... Sennheiser Momentum - Closed back phones in on ear or around ear models - Bass forward phones. Music Direct has some incredible sales on both models Sennheiser HD 558 or 598 - Nice spacious sound - very good for listening to live performances or action movies. Grado - Grado SR 125 - Nice open sound stage that lets you hear a lot of detail. Choose any of the Prestige models and I think you would be happy. Alessandro Series by Grado - You are on the stage with the band with incredible focus on guitars. The MS1 comes in two prices $99 and $109. Can't go wrong with either. Google Alessandro High End to purchase. Grado headphones are handmade in Brooklyn HiFi Man RE400 - In ear phones. Nice for travel and noise isolation. Hard to beat for around $79 The Audeze headphone mentioned earlier are exceptional - just a little out of my price range... Thanks for all the good stuff here!
October 18, 2015 - 6:40am

#2096

Strider 808808

Joined:
June 20, 2007

John Zacherley / Chiller Theater

I may be cut from the same paisley cloth as Mr. Ziffle. In the early 60s I used to watch Chiller Theater out of N.Y.C. It was hosted by none other than the famous John Zacherley. He would do these great comic interludes during horror movies. Voodoo Island stands out in my mind. Fast forward to WNEW in the late 60s. Cutting edge radio that was thought provoking. I remember a DJ by the name of Roscoe who would read works he had written. Really deep material. As for FM radio in the present day, there are some true free form seat of the pants DJs that can inspire and heal the listeners. The history of Underground Radio really begins with Tom Donahue and KMPX in the Bay Area. Playing complete albums and capturing the spirit of long songs such as Viola Lee Blues or Butterfield Blues Bands song East/West. I believe those pioneers of the mid 60s took great inspiration from classical ragas of India and extended jams of John Coltrane. And going back earlier, dance marathons anyone? But I digress. Certainly Jack Kerouac used spontaneous prose as a form "stretching out". Anyway Ziffle and I must have been at some of the same Dead concerts at the Fillmore East and the Capitol Theater (Port Chester). My fourth row center seat at the Fillmore 9/19/70. Maybe it was Mr. Ziff or one of his buddies who sold it to me on the street before the show for face value. ($5:50) Long live Zacheley! Love and healing to Phil.
October 18, 2015 - 6:24am

#2097

wjonjd

Joined:
January 24, 2011

@Alain - 30 Trips Vol2

Actually, when I first posted I listed 5/11/72, and then immediately said "Oh merde!! I better change that to 5/4 before Alain sees!!!!" and quickly changed it. LOL, that's the truth. :):). "Tragedy narrowly averted!"
October 18, 2015 - 6:01am

#2098

unkle sam

Joined:
October 3, 2008

gninetsil ot eseht swohs sdrawkcab morf 95 to 85 so far

started on the 95 show, very nice, if you notice, this show and a few others were recorded by John Cutler vs others by Dan Healy, the Cutler shows are recorded much better. 94 show is very good, there seems to be a drop out or digi skip when help on the way goes into slipknot, from track 1 to 2, anybody else got this? 93, right away you notice the sound quality is not as good as 95 and 94, recorded by Healy, but a fine show non the less. 92 Hell in a Bucket on this show and 93 show, not my favorite opener and why 2 in a row? Healy again and Bucket starts off inferior recording, but gets better as the show progresses. 91 great show, 8 man band with Hornsby and Branford, great sound, better Healy recording. 90, another great show, with Bruce and Vince, Bruce really did fit in great with this band. 89, 24 track, recorded by Cutler, this is the shit here, best show of 89. I have stories about this weekend in Miami, but will save those for another post. 88, inferior sound quality again and there are way better 88 shows to pick from, why this one? must be the Touch of Gray. The fall 88 tour was hands down better than the spring or summer tour. 87 and 86, 2 discs, short shows, no big jams, nothing special here and another hell in a bucket. I will say the Terrapin from 86 is pretty sweet. I did not go to Dead shows in 86 or 87, giving Jerry some breathing room after his near brush with death. 85 is a very nice show, there were a lot of good shows in 85, especially on the fall tour. The Cutler shows are all top notch recordings, the Healy shows, not so much. I will be listening to the rest of these 8o's shows today, so far, no real problems with discs or anything, the sleeves are way better than those ones from E72, which ripped if you tried to get the disc out, these are much better, the box is nice but won't last very long, made of cardboard, but is a bit sturdier than E72's box, which is very fragile. Love the book, the stories in it are awesome and the way that half is one side up and the other half is up side down, is this the way everyone's is or is mine just put together wrong? doesn't matter, still all there and quite cool. All in all, a good 11 shows to start off the listening experience, I would have chosen better shows for 85 86 87 and 88, but I don't have access to the vault and the shows I would have picked may be worse recordings than these, who knows? Just my opinions and are subject to discussion. More later, have a great day, freezing here in the mountains this am, gonna be a long long cold winter, good thing I have this box to keep me warm :)
October 18, 2015 - 5:59am

#2099

claney

Joined:
July 20, 2007

Contextualizing Dick's Picks 4

ziffle - Incredible posts on the 2/13-14/70 runs. Thanks for all that info, and I always love those first-hand stories. Jim - After Ziffle's contextualization of the shows, here is my attempt to explain why I think they chopped up that run when they released DP4, by contextualizing the release. First, this was released in early 1996, very early in the Vault release experiment - and it WAS an experiment at the time. Dick's Picks 1 was a chopped up 73 show - two discs, DP2 was one (awesome) disc, DP3 saw them chopping up one of the all-time 77 Dead shows (also two discs). So, DP4 was the first three-disc release. More expensive, more risky. At the time in the music biz, A two disc CD set was a big deal, and a three-disc set was nearly unheard of - a "box set." The BIG expensive box sets released in the early to mid-90s were things like Marley's Songs of Freedom, or the Police Message in a Box (ALL their albums and singles, from their whole career, on four discs!!!). This was part of a gradual evolution to bigger releases... first to complete shows (Dick's Picks 5!), then two shows together (DP29), then full runs (Fillmore West 69), and still later to complete tours (Europe 72). Now, it's easy to wish they had figured out earlier that we are willing to cough up tons of money for complete, but this is forgetting yet another factor: We were all much younger then, with far less disposable income. In Feb 1996 I had just finished grad school; I had begun my first full-time college teaching gig only a few weeks earlier. I was living in a shack, putting all my money into ramen noodles and paying down student loans. I would NOT have been able to buy full runs, etc. So, in short, the evolution of bigger boxes and more complete releases coincided with (but was not caused by) the evolution of many of the Deadheads to old farts with some money to spend. Co-evolution baby! It's 27 degrees here in western MA. My wife is making scones, my daughter is making Play-doh people, and I haven't heard much of 30 Trips yet, just hard to with all this other stuff going on. But I will - and life is GOOD. Time for more coffee. Cheers everyone ...
October 18, 2015 - 5:50am

#2100

mbarilla

Joined:
August 8, 2013

Fillmore East sound board + Dick's Picks 4

Top notch for the era from what is stated about the sound board. I think Bears notes mention John Chester unique sound board. Check out Dicks Picks 4 notes for details and also the Allman Brothers Band - Fillmore East February 1970 CD notes that was released on GDRecords. I think I read someplace Dick L or Bear mentioned the tapes were Mono and Stereo, which may have been the challenge of getting them out? Bear mentions the two bands briefly crossed passed in Atlanta 1969, but did not hear the ABB play live at the time. Only hearing their studio album in Autumn later that year, so it was a treat and sort of surprise for Bear to see 2 trap sets, similar to the GD when they were billed together in Feb1970 "Glorious Sunday morning" - love that

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Not cool, a week before alleged ship date

What a horrible disappointment and amateurish display of piss poor planning . Why is there such a shortage these days of anyone who can do anything right the first time ? I find it incredibly difficult to put any kind of positive spin on this , just abysmal customer service and lack of respect for a loyal fan base . We are everywhere? Yup , and we are all fools for accepting this treatment as normal ... PS- John Mayer can go suck a friggin egg

Re: Fennario

That's pretty good. So the warehouse was in Tianjin? Perhaps the wood burnt etching of the band members names ignited the lacquer that burned some boxes that started the explosion that leveled the town that delayed our box set? That would be something.

view from the sidelines

Was hoping this would be over with by now so I could see if there were plans to sell in smaller sets, but dead.net has found another way to amaze me with terrible customer service - feel really bad for those who have purchased this box only to see Christmas delayed this year... Wonder what the issue is... Did they run out of money during production because they did not sell as many as needed? Wonder what the real amount sold is, since they seem to be using the "get it while it lasts" line in cry wolf proportions. Whats also is amazing is how much people just take it on the chin over and over again without even a word- over priced box during a celebration year, delayed shipping, box cutters (my spring other one was sliced nice so I know that story), no view of the contents (probably not developed or they realized it was too much of a cut in profit like E72), I can go on but you get the point. Sorry for the negativity, but my rant is just a way of saying, enough is enough - get your act together dead.net Rhino, ptb, whoever you are - make a reasonably priced product we can all enjoy (without limited editions - such cheese) and we will be there to buy and sing your praises for others to come buy.

WTF!!!!

A month delay - fuck it I'm cancelling have your box back - I'll torrent the shows...

Well....

Hopefully the good news is the Box-Cutter Bandit has been apprehended!Hang in there folks. :)

well this sucks

Well this sucks. Been a shitty 6 months and this just adds to it. While I'd like to be in the "hey as long as they get it right" camp, this type of stuff is not rocket science. You are releasing a boxed set, not a new SUV. Get your release date correct. Top if off, do not charge me a month ahead of time (when originally it was going to be about 10 days from release date). This "mid October" is bullshit. When things are this expensive I start to play hardball. If you charge me on 9/17, I better have it by 10/17 or I file fraud charges with my CC company. This is a business deal. Pure and simple. Just because it is Dead music means nothing in terms of a business deal. Deliver it in 30 days from charge or you can shove it. What a blunder. 2015 has been the "year of Dead milking" and this whole fiasco (and it is a fiasco) is just another black eye. I guess I have a week or so to re-consider the purchase which I was doing so anyway. I guess we should have known (and been the wiser) when even the video on the product was a piss poorly produced post. Peace Roger

delay

I really don't want to be negative but from the announcement of this box onwards there has been a cavalcade of self-inflicted wounds... there is no way of nicely saying this but Rhino/whomever have really screwed this release - please begin to redeem things now by being honest about when it may really ship, by telling us what we are really getting [god you have $50 million of our money and we don't know what we have bought] and how you will ensure the rest of this goes smoothly... and for those in Europe who have bought this can you please ensure a shipping which pre-pays the inevitable customs duties...

I can wait.....

I'll get 30 Trips first then about 17 days later I'll get DP Volume 16. What's another month. I'm not going anywhere. Talk about a DEADFEST in October.

all hands on deck!

quick get everyone still at the dead.net/rhino office to write something positive - like I can wait or a joke like man I hope they got that box cutter guy huhuhuh sorry, can't help it....

great post igreen.

great post igreen. I would also add, charge me 10 days before ship like it was to be in the first place. That is my big hang up.

Fuming and cursing and rending of garments

Maybe some of the folks who are beside themselves with anger and exhibiting questionable behavior could take a deep breath, listen to some of the many hours of free music this site provides every week, enjoy the digital version of 30 Trips that will be available on the originally anticipated release date, and reflect on the fact that The Powers That Be are trying to present a unique and fabulous product for a music-loving community that is tiny by industry standards. I really thought that everyone who is into a band that stopped performing 20 years ago would be old enough to handle such a minor disappointment.

Delay?

Just like the band Rhino BLEW It during the BiG One. Maybe we should have seen this coming. Are they using the same production company that put together Europe 72? Dead heads are not patient.

WTF

So, on Monday I received and email letting me know that the Box will ship on or around Sept 18th. No one knew at that time that this was going to be delayed? I think a group of chimpanzees could have done this better. I dont really have an issue with the delay itself but do have an issue with being charged a month before it is "supposed" to ship.

wild speculation

Due to unforeseen circumstances the Boxes will be delayed for 1 month. Seems we made the boxes out of wood and they got infected with termites in our North Carolina warehouse while waiting for the person with box cutter to come back from vacation. He's the key to the distribution system and like "Kilroy was Here", our friend likes to leave his mark. We have decided to replace the faulty infected wood boxes with high quality cardboard, like they use in roach motels, with a color xerox of the box's original artwork glued on the sides for extra tensile strength.The box contents are carefully being fumigated in Tijuana and require 2 weeks of quarantine before being allowed in the US, you understand. The CD cover's we never showed you, are those Road Trip style ones people always talk about in the comments. Any holes or bite marks are part of the limited nature of the release and prove the authenticity, or they could be considered psychedelic, what ever works for you. Warning do not eat any bug carcasses you might find in the box, smoking or licking the scroll is not advised you will go Naked Lunch. That is all.

mpace

Just trying to lighten the situation.Thanks for being a big dick. Have a good one folks,I'm F'n out.

The Delay

Okay, I never go negative but this is horse shit. They're not shipping but still taking our money????? WTF? Are we supposed to happily accept the delay because they used the "just exactly perfect" line on us? Dave said in his video they've been planning the release since 2012. Surely they could have told us sooner and spared us the disappointment of an 11th hour delay. Still taking our money is the real kick in the nuts here. This just shows they don't give a shit about us....AT ALL. I can afford this box but I know there are many who have really stretched themselves to get a copy. For Christs sake, give those Heads an extra month to raise the money and ease their burden.

I give you credit

I give you credit Steve73 if you consider being charged $700 and change over a month before a "ship" date as a minor disappointment. Its simple. Do not charge me until it is ready to ship and you can take as long as you freaking want. Once you have my money, I want my shit. Sort of like payday. I worked I want paid. Would you consider it a minor disappointment if there was a 30 day delay in your pay check? The fact that this is just a music boxed set does not mean shit when I am out money. Charge me on October 10th and I shut the hell up. Charge me on 9/17 and I call the CC company on 10/18 if I do not have it. I urge others to do the same. It is not personal, it is business. This is just a total fuck up considering we got an e-mail a week ago making certain our CC info was correct. They had to know at that time the delay was at foot. Feels dishonest. just sayin'

agree Caps

Agree Caps.......

On the positive side

the Dead.net site is getting a lot of traffic and the conversation seems much more lively than usual.

Damn hippies!

But seriously... I'm also bummed about the delay. However, I must say that it is pretty decent of Rhino to send links to the shows so we can experience the music. Not many companies would do that.

Hmmm

All for cutting Grateful Dead Merchandising some slack. I've bought tons of music here with almost no complaints. Basically the only place I buy CDs nowadays. That being said the past few months have been a very rough patch indeed. Pre-sold recordings of 5 hour concerts that turned out to be much shorter and haven't yet addressed the discrepancy. Shipped out a lot of damaged merchandise. And now the 50th anniversary (which had been hyped mercilessly) flag ship release 30 Trips apparently has encountered "some problems." Hmmm.

Another 400 copies available

Lol....I've just cancelled my 400 orders for investment purposes ;)

Steve73

Ummm, yeah. At this point in the game a product that was announced 3 months ago should already be "just exactly perfect" so skip all the self righteous posturing. This is about supply, demand and questionable business tactics . What could possibly take another month in this endeavor? In addition, I never was one who subscribed to the listen for free aspect , I had tapes back in the day, but currently listen to the stuff I have acquired by paying my hard earned money for and have more than enough to get thru a measly 30 or so days. This also has nothing to do with age, I can wait for a while longer and I have no intention of canceling this item ,it does have a lot to do with the fact that a product was promised to a loyal and undying fan base and address confirmation emails were sent out less than 72 hours ago . Then all of a sudden, oops , we done bad ?. Total first world problem , but you can't really blame people for being disappointed.

Links To The Shows??

Mr. JS: don't make it sound like Rhino is being nice and giving you something for nothing. You're getting a link to the shows for $700.

TPTB

tptb should have attempted a more modest approach to the box. Maybe fall 73 instead of something that seems to be beyond their abilities. Doing a box like this and the dumb ftw box took more attention than was given it. It sucks that rhino could not keep the time table they set.

Dave's been paid

....I'm guessing his radio silence is down to now holidaying in the Bahamas

Guinea Pigs

I believe we have actually all been unwitting participants in a sociological experiment to determine if it is possible to turn a bunch of deadheads into a lynch mob.

Delay

You know it's not good when they can't even give you a date and just tell you mid October. I'm thinking there will be another delay saying it will be out around thanksgiving, then maybe around the holidays, then possibly at some time in 2016, for the great celebration of the 51st anniversary. The should give us advanced downloads and not links for streaming.

Delay

Disappointing, yet I'd much prefer to wait to make sure any problems are solved. I was really looking forward to getting this sooner though. How it went from thinking it might arrive earlier than 9-18 to much later . . . oh well!

We Want Lemieux and Rhino

Everyone brought up great points about the time they had to get this right, the fact that they're still taking our money, the past history of poor service (box cutters, etc, and let us not forget the opening day server crash that screwed up everybody's credit cards and bank accounts). I would like to see a video with Dr. Rhino and Dave Lemieux offering an EXPLANATION, an apology, and a discount off all box sets. Money in their investment portfolio for a month is money out of my investment portfolio for a month. I swear, every Subject line of every posting should be "Lemieux and Rhino". God I hope I spelled his name right, I can never remember if it's i before e except after C, or e before i except when they lie...but yeah, 5/25/77, great show...

Kayak Guy

You made me laugh my AO!I don't think anyone was charged yet - at least I wasn't. Rhino wants to deliver a "just exactly perfect" product. We can all listen to whatever we want to hear the "official" day of release through the Ethernet connection provided. Let's face it - it's either that or an inferior product - and this is pretty ambitious on so many levels. The only weird thing is: Why at the last minute? Please don't take this the wrong way. - slim

Lemieux & Rhino

Slim, I don't know man. First of all, my account was charged: 09/08/2015 DAI*SHOPDEADNET.COM $751.43 Secondly, I don't think there is any problem with the product itself. I don't think they have a clue how many "good" sales they have (i.e. people whose credit cards were good 3 months ago, whose cards are still good today). And remember that email we all got about calling in if our credit card info needed to be updated? That info was all taken down manually, so who knows how many of those got screwed up. And how about all of the sell-outs, oh we have 30 more, then sell-out, then oh we have 15 more. I really think they need a month to actually charge the cards and determine how many sales and shipments they really need to make. They have no clue how many sales they have.

30 Trips Box Verification = EZ! STOP Complaining!!!!

First off, ...no problems with the W8, being charged next week, or anything else. Anyway, just got off the phone with Mike, last week an awesome deadnet rep., 4got her name but she, like every deadnet rep I've spoken with, is AWESOME!. For me, the concern was that my credit card information had changed. The deadnet rep fixed it last week. Today, or yesterday, received an email that contradicted the changes the rep made, last week. So, I spoke w/ deadnet rep. Mike and...it was all good! Team deadnet, Don't let negative vibes and serial complainers get the best of y'all! I LOVE MY DEADNET TEAM! Jeez Louise, try to focus on your life and let the good peeps at Rhino/Deadnet do their thing, which is uncharted! Namaste....hey, hey! -pdawg 'woof'

Thanks for Links to listen to the shows?

Does anyone really think they'll provide enough bandwidth for all of us to stream the shows on 9/18? Either the files will be crappy low-low-def or the stream will crash. And all it will cost is $700.00

Get over it folks...

Seriously. Our society has become a bunch of fucking crybabies. Am I bummed about the delay? Sure. We will still get a link to the music on time to hold us over... I served 30 years in the Marine Corps, lived in the crappiest part of Africa for 18 months, did three combat tours, etc. This is nothing. But the whining is annoying, so put your big girl pants on! Be thankful for what you have and what you're going to receive.Peace out!!!!

Big Girl Pants

That and KayakGuys posts (plus a few others) cracked me up.

been charged already - wtf....

08 Sep 15 DAI*SHOPDEADNET.COM 877-3323638PURCHASE AUTHORISATION 1,058.91 DR So how the hell have i been charged then???? DedHed76 - mate I'm fine with your idea - can they charge you for one month then for my box set and I'll pay you the day its shipped??

Keithfan2112

I Wish my card was charged. That would be a guarantee. Maybe the Dilithium Crystals couldn't take the load? I did get an e-mail saying my card would be charged September 17. And it is one more in a long string of WTF's lately. Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile. Might be time to throw 8/27/72 on and enjoy the magic. For those keeping score at home you can pick your own magic. The box is comin' any day now, don't worry 'bout it, no. Been so long I felt this way and time sure passing slow..... For what it's worth....we can't change whatever the issues are. I'm disappointed but I will get by. - slim

big girl pants

Funny how you include all the complaints about your life while you're telling other people not to complain isn't it?

Exclimated peace out !!!!

my suffering is worse than yours , another annoying aspect of modern society , the louder you are the righter you ain't .

Delay

I can wait another month... I guess. But what I'm thinking is why the 4 mos pre sale on a limited run 6500 qty box set? and the pre charge then re charge? its sold out... no we found more... You wanna sell out a limited qty box set fast? Maybe produce manufacture and warehouse the issue then make the announcement with immediate availability! with all the hype and sneak peaks, put a counter on the web site and when the numbers start to roll down. Heads will be snapping them up in record time. Just a thought....

Snake-oil salesman

Hey Dave where are you? What's the go? Taken the money and run?

Delay

It must be nice to work for Rhino/GD. I would be fired if I missed a major deadline... I'm unimpressed with the professionalism, or should I be impressed with the chaotic semi-functioning business model?

Maybe....

...there's a plan..think about it.... Maybe they've had so few pre-orders for the FTW box - that they're delaying boxzilla to coincide with that release and include it as a freebie for all 30 trips pre-orders... To be fair that's really not really a value-add (esp. for the various f*** ups along the way) - but it would be better than nothing - certainly better than a bonus disc of Vince tunes that's for sure...... Saying that...maybe they're preparing a Bad Trips bonus disc lol...wave to the wind > samba in the rain > long way to go home > childhood's end etc... Dave...we await your response...and maybe then you can address the 100s of unanswered questions about the FTW box too...

Shazam!

Like a pileup on the freeway at 5 pm on a holiday weekend. Ain't never a good time for this kinda thing.

F bombs galore.....

....wow!! I myself am a patient man and can wait, but the emails leading up to this event are a bit concerning. $700 is quite a bit of scratch. Some respect would be nice. $100 off the top would ease the pain. $150 would be better....now onto Garcia's Shining Star cd....a diamond in the rough....and it seems pretty rough out there....

Well, now we know

why we never got an un-boxing video or photos of the insides; you need to have an actual product in order to reveal it.

The problem

I've spoken to the Dead.net team - the issue is the names around the box - until they were manufactured, no-one had realised that they had missed Vince's name off (Bobby did the same when he forgot to invite Vince on the Other Ones tour right) - an easy mistake to make lol.... No dramas here.....but that's the scoop ;)

Lucky...

Your not rolling into Lockn right now, thursday is cancelled

"ez stop complaining" he exclaimed

philledawg, dedhead76, lol talk about your pacifists - everyone who bought a set has a right to complain, especially considering the history of poor customer service and spotty product quality from these clowns. wow, was someone at customer support nice to you on the phone? that's sweet. businesses that operate like this get hosed by the better business bureau all of the time, because it's consumer abuse. i can see you guys hollering across the prison cell at each other while bubba's showing you who's boss "ez stop complaining, no big deal, there's worse things in liiiFFE"

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