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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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June 17, 2015 - 1:00pm

#6591

sfrank115

Joined:
June 17, 2013

Sweeeeeet

Pretty awesome radio show.
June 17, 2015 - 10:27am

#6592

uv1

Joined:
June 21, 2012

Let there be songs to fill the air!

Thanks for that link @frankparry. Can't say I'm impressed with the design of the 4-CD box, but I'll bet the 80-disc box will be awesome. And what a monster it'll have to be. Just look at 80 CD's in your collection and see how much space they take up! I'm betting there will be a cardboard slipcase for each show. Or maybe it'll be in the style of a book. It looks like that's what they went for with the 4-disc set. If that's the case, it may be hard for folks to sell off single shows as we've seen on this board and on eBay. Besides which, I think the idea of breaking up the box defeats the vision that Dave had: i.e. taking in the 30-year journey that was the life of the Grateful Dead. So if you're someone who loves the 70's Dead, this may be an opportunity to have some later era music in your collection. And if you're an 80's/90's lover, then this is the chance to go back a bit further. My story is this: I started listening to the Grateful Dead with the album "Without A Net," so Brent has always sounded great to me. I never did get to see Brent, though. I saw the Dead 4 times -- 3 in '91 and once in '93. I was at the 2 MSG shows before the 9/10/91 show in the box. Then I stopped listening for years. It wasn't until my son was born 3-1/2 years ago that I started listening again. Man, I was HOOKED! I tracked down every Road Trips and Bonus Disc over the next year, and then started in on the Dave's Picks and newer box sets as they came out. Despite my expanding collection, I was still pretty stuck in the late 80's and early 90's. But I slowly worked my way backwards. '77 and '74 offered ample rewards for my listening, but earlier than that was a little too much for me. Kinda raw at times. And Pigpen took some getting used to. So it took me a while to get into '72 and all that the European tour has going for it. Now I can dig it. On the other side of the Dead's career, I shied away from post '91 stuff. Without Hornsby, what magic did the band still have up their sleeves? Then I pulled out th '93 Cal Expo Road Trips this year. I've gotta tell you, it's good. Way better than I thought it should be. So when I first saw this box set, I thought, "Way too expensive," and "Too much stuff that I don't want." But the more I thought about it, the more excited I became to hear those shows from years I had shied away from - pre '72 and post '91. I think the box will be an amazing opportunity to experience the full scope of what the Grateful Dead's music was. Thanks for reading. Reach out your hand If your cup is empty If your cup is full May it be again
June 17, 2015 - 10:11am

#6593

floridabobaloo

Joined:
April 30, 2014

Time being short

I came up with a rather new twist. Listening to an entire show sometimes just isn't possible, so what I've done is to select one disc from a set and create a mix up. Yesterday I started with some 73 and jumped to 90 then back to 72, etc. kinda works with the 50th concept. I have SO much Dead now, I might be able to only enjoy 1 complete show in a day and that would take a while to go thru all of it. So this approach is in play. I'm also rotating in terms of sets too. First sets and then Second.It gives me a broad palate to draw from and lots of years to combine into one big groove for the day. I've read were some folks wouldn't try this, but it's working in the summer heat so far! Enjoy yourselves!
June 17, 2015 - 9:04am

#6594

JimInMD

Joined:
June 27, 2011

Change

There's some good insight into some of the music that influenced Jerry and some of the directions he wanted to explore or did not in the following March '78 JGB interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya2Vv1zcGmY It gives some background on the edgier, harder feel the music took on at that time. There's an interesting piece about new wave and punk that starts about 29 min in. Very interesting stuff.. if you had the same conversation say in '72 or '73, Its very likely names like Django Reinhardt, Ornette Coleman, Miles Davis and the like might just pop up. At one point Garcia states, "I like Cheap Trick." A musical Omnivore he was.. 35 min in he speaks highly of the Who and Townsend but says its a drag to do the same show '4 years in a row. Change and reinvention is a part of the golden thread this tapestry is woven from. Anyway, more food for thought. The only thing constant in this world is change.
June 17, 2015 - 8:16am

#6595

ToddWCorey70

Joined:
July 30, 2012

Keith

Unfortunately, when I think of Keith's later playing, I invariably think of the Cornell Fire. His blocky repetitive chords are just a sin, and almost ruin this amazing song for me. Give me his early stuff any day, the man was fantastic!
June 17, 2015 - 8:06am

#6596

frankparry

Joined:
June 8, 2007

Box Design

I'm not sure if this has been posted before but the British magazine Uncut has a picture of the 4CD version of 30 Trips box and a description and link to Viola Lee Blues: http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/grateful-dead-exclusive-hear-an-unreleased-…
June 17, 2015 - 7:09am

#6597

MrHeartbreak

Joined:
August 2, 2013

@Thin

"But I think some of the reason he began to decline is the band's '78 swerve into louder, fuzzier, raunchier tones and electric rock 'n roll (vs the ragtime band). When Keith joined in 1971 it was a 1-drummer band and by '73 they were playing light, loose and ragtime/jazzy. But suddenly in '78 they were in full beast mode and a piano doesn't really fit into a raging 2-drummer band easily - must have been frustrating for him." Excellent post, Thin. I never articulated this correctly, and I think you are right. Since we were talking about the "non-factor" issue (and I'd never actually noticed anything BAD before, like the 12/31/78 bad chord), I decided to check out a couple songs from the famous 5/8/77 gig. After all, we all know that show, right? I dialed up Estimated Prophet in the car, and listened for what Keith was doing. Now, granted, I'm cruising down the road in 93-degree Florida heat, so the AC is cranked to the max, but let me just say: during the first 3 minutes or so that I road-tested that song, I did not hear Keith...at all. I could hear everybody else: Phil, Jerry, Bobby, Mickey & Billy. I skipped ahead to Morning Dew, and I heard a little bit of tinkling piano during the first few minutes...nothing bad, but nothing remarkable. Sounded low in the mix, too...very low. Maybe they really did turn his volume down overall? No idea. For contrast, I listened to a Yes show from the same basic era, '78. Rick Wakeman on keyboards. Now, it's not a fair comparison, I know: different band, different style. But I'll tell you what: those keyboards were prominent, I mean PROMINENT, in the mix. All over the place. So maybe it wasn't just drugs, passivity, or whatnot. Maybe he really was mixed intentionally low by the latter years of the Godchauxs' tenure.
June 17, 2015 - 6:51am

#6598

estimated-eyes

Joined:
December 31, 2008

12/31/78

I always liked this show, but Keith is a non-factor and he really blows it toward the end of Good Lovin'-- when the rest of the band stops at one point, Keith hits a big chord. That is one of the worst obvious errors I have heard in all my GD listening, way worse than any vocal flubs they regularly made. Re: Beware Mr. Baker and the Clapton comment, in the movie they talk about Ginger's style a lot and that he was really a jazz drummer thrust into a rock and roll band. Clapton's comment, I think he was more appalled by the comparison to Bonham, you can hear him say, "no, no, Zep..." and then he catches himself before being caught on camera bashing LZ. Ginger could swing, hit 'em hard and provide some world beats, too. I like Keith Moon a lot and find his drumming amazing in his prime. This documentary gave me a better appreciation of Ginger Baker's talents-- in spite of the fact that he is absolutely insane.
June 17, 2015 - 6:38am

#6599

Thin

Joined:
June 21, 2013

Keith "going through Jerry's briefcase"???

Rdevil - Can you clarify what is meant by "Keith going through Jerry's briefcase may have been his biggest sin"??? Do you mean he was actually busted rifling through his stuff/stealing Jerry's stash, or was that just a euphemism for "he was doing the same, err…, recreational stuff as Jerry and it had a very negative effect"? I do recall a story from one book where someone had stolen Jerry's stash from his briefcase and he started VERY indiscreetly confronting people "Who took my bindle!" Maybe these stories are related (though probably not - made me think of it though…) I'm mildly uncomfortable that this is getting into unsavory gossip, but I'm hitting "send" anyway...
June 17, 2015 - 6:35am

#6600

Kayak Guy

Joined:
June 4, 2015

Keith vs Mickey

What an interesting take that I never thought about before, it's Mickey's fault ;) It does stand the basic logic test of jazz based piano players were considered part of the rhythm section and the addition of a 2nd drummer would leave less space for Keith in the mix, where as syths, cheesey keyboards and organ would occupy a different spot in a 2 drummer line up. things to listen for in the future. Billy's new book has also given me lots to listen for and highly recommended for his point of view from the drummers seat on the mood/drug consumption of the periods. Jerry seems to be one of the few junkies that could still play well far longer than most of the people around him and even though it became a problem, they let it continue as the money became everyone's drug of choice at the end. meanwhile Weather Report suite from 9/12/73 SBD just shuffled on and Keith is sounding great, too bad theres a bunch of horns soloing where Jerry should be playing and it sounds like a flock of waterfowl having an orgy.

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

Not cool, a week before alleged ship date

What a horrible disappointment and amateurish display of piss poor planning . Why is there such a shortage these days of anyone who can do anything right the first time ? I find it incredibly difficult to put any kind of positive spin on this , just abysmal customer service and lack of respect for a loyal fan base . We are everywhere? Yup , and we are all fools for accepting this treatment as normal ... PS- John Mayer can go suck a friggin egg

Re: Fennario

That's pretty good. So the warehouse was in Tianjin? Perhaps the wood burnt etching of the band members names ignited the lacquer that burned some boxes that started the explosion that leveled the town that delayed our box set? That would be something.

view from the sidelines

Was hoping this would be over with by now so I could see if there were plans to sell in smaller sets, but dead.net has found another way to amaze me with terrible customer service - feel really bad for those who have purchased this box only to see Christmas delayed this year... Wonder what the issue is... Did they run out of money during production because they did not sell as many as needed? Wonder what the real amount sold is, since they seem to be using the "get it while it lasts" line in cry wolf proportions. Whats also is amazing is how much people just take it on the chin over and over again without even a word- over priced box during a celebration year, delayed shipping, box cutters (my spring other one was sliced nice so I know that story), no view of the contents (probably not developed or they realized it was too much of a cut in profit like E72), I can go on but you get the point. Sorry for the negativity, but my rant is just a way of saying, enough is enough - get your act together dead.net Rhino, ptb, whoever you are - make a reasonably priced product we can all enjoy (without limited editions - such cheese) and we will be there to buy and sing your praises for others to come buy.

WTF!!!!

A month delay - fuck it I'm cancelling have your box back - I'll torrent the shows...

Well....

Hopefully the good news is the Box-Cutter Bandit has been apprehended!Hang in there folks. :)

well this sucks

Well this sucks. Been a shitty 6 months and this just adds to it. While I'd like to be in the "hey as long as they get it right" camp, this type of stuff is not rocket science. You are releasing a boxed set, not a new SUV. Get your release date correct. Top if off, do not charge me a month ahead of time (when originally it was going to be about 10 days from release date). This "mid October" is bullshit. When things are this expensive I start to play hardball. If you charge me on 9/17, I better have it by 10/17 or I file fraud charges with my CC company. This is a business deal. Pure and simple. Just because it is Dead music means nothing in terms of a business deal. Deliver it in 30 days from charge or you can shove it. What a blunder. 2015 has been the "year of Dead milking" and this whole fiasco (and it is a fiasco) is just another black eye. I guess I have a week or so to re-consider the purchase which I was doing so anyway. I guess we should have known (and been the wiser) when even the video on the product was a piss poorly produced post. Peace Roger

delay

I really don't want to be negative but from the announcement of this box onwards there has been a cavalcade of self-inflicted wounds... there is no way of nicely saying this but Rhino/whomever have really screwed this release - please begin to redeem things now by being honest about when it may really ship, by telling us what we are really getting [god you have $50 million of our money and we don't know what we have bought] and how you will ensure the rest of this goes smoothly... and for those in Europe who have bought this can you please ensure a shipping which pre-pays the inevitable customs duties...

I can wait.....

I'll get 30 Trips first then about 17 days later I'll get DP Volume 16. What's another month. I'm not going anywhere. Talk about a DEADFEST in October.

all hands on deck!

quick get everyone still at the dead.net/rhino office to write something positive - like I can wait or a joke like man I hope they got that box cutter guy huhuhuh sorry, can't help it....

great post igreen.

great post igreen. I would also add, charge me 10 days before ship like it was to be in the first place. That is my big hang up.

Fuming and cursing and rending of garments

Maybe some of the folks who are beside themselves with anger and exhibiting questionable behavior could take a deep breath, listen to some of the many hours of free music this site provides every week, enjoy the digital version of 30 Trips that will be available on the originally anticipated release date, and reflect on the fact that The Powers That Be are trying to present a unique and fabulous product for a music-loving community that is tiny by industry standards. I really thought that everyone who is into a band that stopped performing 20 years ago would be old enough to handle such a minor disappointment.

Delay?

Just like the band Rhino BLEW It during the BiG One. Maybe we should have seen this coming. Are they using the same production company that put together Europe 72? Dead heads are not patient.

WTF

So, on Monday I received and email letting me know that the Box will ship on or around Sept 18th. No one knew at that time that this was going to be delayed? I think a group of chimpanzees could have done this better. I dont really have an issue with the delay itself but do have an issue with being charged a month before it is "supposed" to ship.

wild speculation

Due to unforeseen circumstances the Boxes will be delayed for 1 month. Seems we made the boxes out of wood and they got infected with termites in our North Carolina warehouse while waiting for the person with box cutter to come back from vacation. He's the key to the distribution system and like "Kilroy was Here", our friend likes to leave his mark. We have decided to replace the faulty infected wood boxes with high quality cardboard, like they use in roach motels, with a color xerox of the box's original artwork glued on the sides for extra tensile strength.The box contents are carefully being fumigated in Tijuana and require 2 weeks of quarantine before being allowed in the US, you understand. The CD cover's we never showed you, are those Road Trip style ones people always talk about in the comments. Any holes or bite marks are part of the limited nature of the release and prove the authenticity, or they could be considered psychedelic, what ever works for you. Warning do not eat any bug carcasses you might find in the box, smoking or licking the scroll is not advised you will go Naked Lunch. That is all.

mpace

Just trying to lighten the situation.Thanks for being a big dick. Have a good one folks,I'm F'n out.

The Delay

Okay, I never go negative but this is horse shit. They're not shipping but still taking our money????? WTF? Are we supposed to happily accept the delay because they used the "just exactly perfect" line on us? Dave said in his video they've been planning the release since 2012. Surely they could have told us sooner and spared us the disappointment of an 11th hour delay. Still taking our money is the real kick in the nuts here. This just shows they don't give a shit about us....AT ALL. I can afford this box but I know there are many who have really stretched themselves to get a copy. For Christs sake, give those Heads an extra month to raise the money and ease their burden.

I give you credit

I give you credit Steve73 if you consider being charged $700 and change over a month before a "ship" date as a minor disappointment. Its simple. Do not charge me until it is ready to ship and you can take as long as you freaking want. Once you have my money, I want my shit. Sort of like payday. I worked I want paid. Would you consider it a minor disappointment if there was a 30 day delay in your pay check? The fact that this is just a music boxed set does not mean shit when I am out money. Charge me on October 10th and I shut the hell up. Charge me on 9/17 and I call the CC company on 10/18 if I do not have it. I urge others to do the same. It is not personal, it is business. This is just a total fuck up considering we got an e-mail a week ago making certain our CC info was correct. They had to know at that time the delay was at foot. Feels dishonest. just sayin'

agree Caps

Agree Caps.......

On the positive side

the Dead.net site is getting a lot of traffic and the conversation seems much more lively than usual.

Damn hippies!

But seriously... I'm also bummed about the delay. However, I must say that it is pretty decent of Rhino to send links to the shows so we can experience the music. Not many companies would do that.

Hmmm

All for cutting Grateful Dead Merchandising some slack. I've bought tons of music here with almost no complaints. Basically the only place I buy CDs nowadays. That being said the past few months have been a very rough patch indeed. Pre-sold recordings of 5 hour concerts that turned out to be much shorter and haven't yet addressed the discrepancy. Shipped out a lot of damaged merchandise. And now the 50th anniversary (which had been hyped mercilessly) flag ship release 30 Trips apparently has encountered "some problems." Hmmm.

Another 400 copies available

Lol....I've just cancelled my 400 orders for investment purposes ;)

Steve73

Ummm, yeah. At this point in the game a product that was announced 3 months ago should already be "just exactly perfect" so skip all the self righteous posturing. This is about supply, demand and questionable business tactics . What could possibly take another month in this endeavor? In addition, I never was one who subscribed to the listen for free aspect , I had tapes back in the day, but currently listen to the stuff I have acquired by paying my hard earned money for and have more than enough to get thru a measly 30 or so days. This also has nothing to do with age, I can wait for a while longer and I have no intention of canceling this item ,it does have a lot to do with the fact that a product was promised to a loyal and undying fan base and address confirmation emails were sent out less than 72 hours ago . Then all of a sudden, oops , we done bad ?. Total first world problem , but you can't really blame people for being disappointed.

Links To The Shows??

Mr. JS: don't make it sound like Rhino is being nice and giving you something for nothing. You're getting a link to the shows for $700.

TPTB

tptb should have attempted a more modest approach to the box. Maybe fall 73 instead of something that seems to be beyond their abilities. Doing a box like this and the dumb ftw box took more attention than was given it. It sucks that rhino could not keep the time table they set.

Dave's been paid

....I'm guessing his radio silence is down to now holidaying in the Bahamas

Guinea Pigs

I believe we have actually all been unwitting participants in a sociological experiment to determine if it is possible to turn a bunch of deadheads into a lynch mob.

Delay

You know it's not good when they can't even give you a date and just tell you mid October. I'm thinking there will be another delay saying it will be out around thanksgiving, then maybe around the holidays, then possibly at some time in 2016, for the great celebration of the 51st anniversary. The should give us advanced downloads and not links for streaming.

Delay

Disappointing, yet I'd much prefer to wait to make sure any problems are solved. I was really looking forward to getting this sooner though. How it went from thinking it might arrive earlier than 9-18 to much later . . . oh well!

We Want Lemieux and Rhino

Everyone brought up great points about the time they had to get this right, the fact that they're still taking our money, the past history of poor service (box cutters, etc, and let us not forget the opening day server crash that screwed up everybody's credit cards and bank accounts). I would like to see a video with Dr. Rhino and Dave Lemieux offering an EXPLANATION, an apology, and a discount off all box sets. Money in their investment portfolio for a month is money out of my investment portfolio for a month. I swear, every Subject line of every posting should be "Lemieux and Rhino". God I hope I spelled his name right, I can never remember if it's i before e except after C, or e before i except when they lie...but yeah, 5/25/77, great show...

Kayak Guy

You made me laugh my AO!I don't think anyone was charged yet - at least I wasn't. Rhino wants to deliver a "just exactly perfect" product. We can all listen to whatever we want to hear the "official" day of release through the Ethernet connection provided. Let's face it - it's either that or an inferior product - and this is pretty ambitious on so many levels. The only weird thing is: Why at the last minute? Please don't take this the wrong way. - slim

Lemieux & Rhino

Slim, I don't know man. First of all, my account was charged: 09/08/2015 DAI*SHOPDEADNET.COM $751.43 Secondly, I don't think there is any problem with the product itself. I don't think they have a clue how many "good" sales they have (i.e. people whose credit cards were good 3 months ago, whose cards are still good today). And remember that email we all got about calling in if our credit card info needed to be updated? That info was all taken down manually, so who knows how many of those got screwed up. And how about all of the sell-outs, oh we have 30 more, then sell-out, then oh we have 15 more. I really think they need a month to actually charge the cards and determine how many sales and shipments they really need to make. They have no clue how many sales they have.

30 Trips Box Verification = EZ! STOP Complaining!!!!

First off, ...no problems with the W8, being charged next week, or anything else. Anyway, just got off the phone with Mike, last week an awesome deadnet rep., 4got her name but she, like every deadnet rep I've spoken with, is AWESOME!. For me, the concern was that my credit card information had changed. The deadnet rep fixed it last week. Today, or yesterday, received an email that contradicted the changes the rep made, last week. So, I spoke w/ deadnet rep. Mike and...it was all good! Team deadnet, Don't let negative vibes and serial complainers get the best of y'all! I LOVE MY DEADNET TEAM! Jeez Louise, try to focus on your life and let the good peeps at Rhino/Deadnet do their thing, which is uncharted! Namaste....hey, hey! -pdawg 'woof'

Thanks for Links to listen to the shows?

Does anyone really think they'll provide enough bandwidth for all of us to stream the shows on 9/18? Either the files will be crappy low-low-def or the stream will crash. And all it will cost is $700.00

Get over it folks...

Seriously. Our society has become a bunch of fucking crybabies. Am I bummed about the delay? Sure. We will still get a link to the music on time to hold us over... I served 30 years in the Marine Corps, lived in the crappiest part of Africa for 18 months, did three combat tours, etc. This is nothing. But the whining is annoying, so put your big girl pants on! Be thankful for what you have and what you're going to receive.Peace out!!!!

Big Girl Pants

That and KayakGuys posts (plus a few others) cracked me up.

been charged already - wtf....

08 Sep 15 DAI*SHOPDEADNET.COM 877-3323638PURCHASE AUTHORISATION 1,058.91 DR So how the hell have i been charged then???? DedHed76 - mate I'm fine with your idea - can they charge you for one month then for my box set and I'll pay you the day its shipped??

Keithfan2112

I Wish my card was charged. That would be a guarantee. Maybe the Dilithium Crystals couldn't take the load? I did get an e-mail saying my card would be charged September 17. And it is one more in a long string of WTF's lately. Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile. Might be time to throw 8/27/72 on and enjoy the magic. For those keeping score at home you can pick your own magic. The box is comin' any day now, don't worry 'bout it, no. Been so long I felt this way and time sure passing slow..... For what it's worth....we can't change whatever the issues are. I'm disappointed but I will get by. - slim

big girl pants

Funny how you include all the complaints about your life while you're telling other people not to complain isn't it?

Exclimated peace out !!!!

my suffering is worse than yours , another annoying aspect of modern society , the louder you are the righter you ain't .

Delay

I can wait another month... I guess. But what I'm thinking is why the 4 mos pre sale on a limited run 6500 qty box set? and the pre charge then re charge? its sold out... no we found more... You wanna sell out a limited qty box set fast? Maybe produce manufacture and warehouse the issue then make the announcement with immediate availability! with all the hype and sneak peaks, put a counter on the web site and when the numbers start to roll down. Heads will be snapping them up in record time. Just a thought....

Snake-oil salesman

Hey Dave where are you? What's the go? Taken the money and run?

Delay

It must be nice to work for Rhino/GD. I would be fired if I missed a major deadline... I'm unimpressed with the professionalism, or should I be impressed with the chaotic semi-functioning business model?

Maybe....

...there's a plan..think about it.... Maybe they've had so few pre-orders for the FTW box - that they're delaying boxzilla to coincide with that release and include it as a freebie for all 30 trips pre-orders... To be fair that's really not really a value-add (esp. for the various f*** ups along the way) - but it would be better than nothing - certainly better than a bonus disc of Vince tunes that's for sure...... Saying that...maybe they're preparing a Bad Trips bonus disc lol...wave to the wind > samba in the rain > long way to go home > childhood's end etc... Dave...we await your response...and maybe then you can address the 100s of unanswered questions about the FTW box too...

Shazam!

Like a pileup on the freeway at 5 pm on a holiday weekend. Ain't never a good time for this kinda thing.

F bombs galore.....

....wow!! I myself am a patient man and can wait, but the emails leading up to this event are a bit concerning. $700 is quite a bit of scratch. Some respect would be nice. $100 off the top would ease the pain. $150 would be better....now onto Garcia's Shining Star cd....a diamond in the rough....and it seems pretty rough out there....

Well, now we know

why we never got an un-boxing video or photos of the insides; you need to have an actual product in order to reveal it.

The problem

I've spoken to the Dead.net team - the issue is the names around the box - until they were manufactured, no-one had realised that they had missed Vince's name off (Bobby did the same when he forgot to invite Vince on the Other Ones tour right) - an easy mistake to make lol.... No dramas here.....but that's the scoop ;)

Lucky...

Your not rolling into Lockn right now, thursday is cancelled

"ez stop complaining" he exclaimed

philledawg, dedhead76, lol talk about your pacifists - everyone who bought a set has a right to complain, especially considering the history of poor customer service and spotty product quality from these clowns. wow, was someone at customer support nice to you on the phone? that's sweet. businesses that operate like this get hosed by the better business bureau all of the time, because it's consumer abuse. i can see you guys hollering across the prison cell at each other while bubba's showing you who's boss "ez stop complaining, no big deal, there's worse things in liiiFFE"

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