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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • Cactus_Jack
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    Selling single shows out of my box at 50 dollars a pop. Here are the shows that haven't already been spoken for: 1976 1978 1980 1981 1982 1983 1985 1986 1988 1993 PM me if interested in any of these. Doesn't require any payment now, I jus wanna know who wants 'em. Also, Anybody notice how the 4 CD version has the digital file(CD mp3 or whatever) of Caution from 1965 and the big box does not? -CJ
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    i think this is a terrific looking box set. i applaud those who put it together. i, for one, like the idea of some limited things, bonus discs, etc. i think very few people collect these as investments, but because of their love of the band, and the music. i like the idea of collecting. (personally, i love old vinyl. i wish i could come across a copy of the 1st album in mono, promo preferred!) i, for one, am priced out of this release. but that doesn't mean i am against this release! but i digress. as much as i love all the special stuff, i do think that the music should be made available to all. look at smithsonian/folkways. EVERY album they have EVER put out is available to download or they will custom burn you a cd. you can even download any of the inserts they put in the original album!!! why do they do that? because they feel that their catalog is worth preserving, and worth being available to any and all. don't we all feel the same about the dead's music? historical??? rhino NEEDS to make money, or none of this will float. special editions pay the bills, but i think that does not need to come at the expense of availability. many people have been clamoring for 80's shows, for example. now, only 6500 folks will get a hard copy of, say, 10/12/84. that just doesn't seem right....in my opinion. i like what they did with e-72 box. you can get individual shows. are they stuck with too much inventory? i don't know. personally, i like the physical product, not downloads, but if that's the way i have to go, so be it. (for example, i think it's awful that the 4 iconic shows that made up the fillmore west box are not downloadable for people.) my suggestion is put a premium price on collectables. those able to pay will pay. good for them! and it will be worth it!!!! but make individual shows available at a regular price for anyone who wants it. i don't think that reduces the value of the limited editions. if anything, i think it makes it even more special....!
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    E72 Trinkets vs $$$
    Yeah that sounds about right regarding E72 and it is OK if it kept the cost down. Although the cd holders construction themselves were below par.
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    ...now you're just talking crazy. Everyone knows it would be a Birkenstock box.
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    If I remember correctly, there was a promise of a 'stash drawer', ticket stubs, "travel documents", a Map Poster, etc. None of that was in the actual steamer trunk, however, the book that did accompany the set was VERY well done. The price was great at $450 though, so if the lack of trinkets was what kept it affordable, I'm more than happy. I would rather this new set be $500 and have one book, rather than the tickets, pictures, pins, and posters that have accompanied all the boxes, except FW69 and E72 (coincidentally, these have been the most "bang-for-your-buck" sets). You can see the early artwork here with the extra stuff that was promised. http://www.thebestofwebsite.com/Photos/Music/Grateful_Dead/LargePhotos/…
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    Thank you, thank you. Very much.
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    Can't really say if this method is reliable, but by adding x number of sets into the cart, and clicking add to cart, this will reveal how many are left. Like if you're able to add 1250 sets, but not 1300, than in theory there's less than 1300 left. It is strange, though probably not as strange as the "Add to Cart" method, that there's no mention of packaging for this release.
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    While I doubt there is an active plot to defraud 30 Trips Boxset buyers they did under deliver with E72 compared to what they said they would deliver. E72 was botched. Does anyone remember the facts on this?
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    Um.........ok......... Now I'm really worried.....but my 72 trunk has the booklet and all that shit and they still gave a few notes on each individual show....... I'm worried..... Damn!!!
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    and Obama too. If we had real jobs this would be a no brainer.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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I am loving this section of the book so much. This and the stories will tide me over until the set arrives. Have to admit, I am very jealous of that driveway gate!
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those opening notes of 1966's "next time you see me" are so sweet
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If I could only show my smile. That first minute of Viola Lee is worth 700 bucks. Wow.
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Did your card get charged yet? Maybe the link doesn't come up until payment is accepted... ???
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they said they sent the email but it's not there??
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Yep. Card was charged this morning. I've emailed customer service and if I haven't heard anything back by morning I'll ring them.
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I didnt get an email, just go to your ORDER STATUS and you will need to type in your original ORDER NUMBER, the tracks and book will pop up after you enter that.
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I checked my order status and I have the links, but I haven't been charged yet.. Anybody else out there the same issue?? Never in my life have I ever been dying to have someone bill my card $750.. Lol
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Wonder if they'll find anymore? :D Have a grateful day.
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Anyone know what they mean by that? "streaming access to the shows, a PDF version of the book, and a few digital extras"
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thumbed through the book to the end where I got to read the show by show mini write up by Dave. They should've released one a week during the presale and it would sell out well before today!!! Limited myself to listening to the first show and the 7" record on my little computer speakers... Can't wait for the physical product to arrive!!!
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> Anyone know what they mean by that? Probably the digital version of the 7" - that's the only other thing I see there.
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You mean you did not get the golden ticket with lifetime access to the Terrapin Limited Museum with a one weekend stay at 710 Haight Street with a room of your choosing with a dinner reservation at the founder's table at Terrapin Crossroads? Just call me Charlie ;) Maybe the digital copy of the 7" 45rpm record???
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From the book (pg 153):"A technical note here: In addition to the soundboard tapes for any given show, the Grateful Dead’s vault often has audience tapes as well. For this show, the board tapes were missing the end of the second set. Fortunately, there’s also a really good audience recording in the vault. The last few songs in the second set, after “Truckin’,” are from the audience-sourced recording, and we are very happy to be able to include them. You’ll definitely notice quite a dramatic change in the sound, but this performance is so good we didn’t want you to miss any of it."
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It's a nice sounding AUD.
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The card has been charged, I have an email with the link to the order status page, but where is the stream and the pdf? If anybody can help I would appreciate it. I can't seem to find it anywhere, I tried on my phone, iPad and computer, I enter my order number and billing zip and only the basic order status page comes up, no stream link or anything in sight
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...you're not alone; apparently we've been banished to King Moonracer's (or Captain Trips') Island of Misfit Deadheads. S'okay, though, I'd already intended on entering Boxasaurus Rex blind! (though I supsect deadnet will quickly restore temptation by remedying our access problem)/peace, K
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I'm one of those Luddites who prefer the band's first 15 years. So I decided to listen to the shows in reverse order while waiting for the real box, figuring that I might never get to the later years on CD. Turns out that the 1995 show is wonderful! How many more of my set-in-stone beliefs will turn out to be wrong? How will I find the time to do anything but listen to Boxzilla?
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I wonder who recorded the audience portion, or if it was from one of Healy's mics at the soundboard? If I get a chance I will see if I can figure it out. There's two audience tapes on LMA, one by Jim Wise and one by Doug Mow.
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I was wondering if the show notes would go something like this- "For our 1987 show, they opened with Bucket-Sugaree. Then for 1988- it's Bucket-Sugaree. Then for 1990- a Bucket-Sugaree opener. We changed things up for 1992- Bucket-Althea. Then threw a curveball for 1993- Bucket-Bertha. It was commonplace back then for the Grateful Dead to open 5 out of 7 shows with the same song." Anyways, last time I'll mention it.
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What you say? After reading the posts on this board the last six months I recently burned all my Dick's/Dave's/Box sets with shows played after 4/79. Now you guys are telling me there was some good playing in those years. (kidding folks)
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but thats Today,, this was yesterday not included in the box.. 9.17.73 !! I'm glad I had some extra errands to run and time to kill because the portion Dave played yesterday went on for a while !! Holy smokes !! Three take aways from this piece.. 1st takeaway - Looks Like Rain was fantastic !! some interesting sounds on that one, take a listen people... 2nd takeaway - Loose Lucy was a nice addition to this show.. And 3rd takeaway - surprised me the most LOL.. I was sitting in my car in front of local bar waiting for a friend. SiriusXM was blasting while I was parked and Row Jimmy was in full swing.. A really old lady walks up to my car window and says "what cd is that?" I replied its not a cd.. Her next question "well what is it ?" I said its the radio.. she smiled and said "Good song" and slowly walked away.
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I put in a minute of the LMA audience and it does sound good. Although it is a touch disturbing to pay for an audience tape. There had to be a full board tape from a great 81 show somewhere in the vault. (Went back and it shows I downloaded this show a couple years back, so I know I wore it out previously. Trying to not listen to any of it till it gets here.) My understanding is Healy didnt start using mics at the board until late 86; (testing with rollout in March 87).. Do not know if that is true. Also know the box will be incredible. Of course, got to get it in my restless greedy hands. Wringing Hands, Mwahahaha
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I say this with peace and love, but I'm personally not a fan of the color-swapping album/show covers. Just makes me appreciate the extra-touch given to Europe '72, which had some amazing and unique (while still sticking w/ the E72 "theme") artwork. That said, I just finished 1966 and am completely blown away by the music which, as we all know, trumps everything. Looking forward to 67. Nice work, everyone.
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This is insane, I can stream this on my phone and blue tooth the mofo in my car. 30 Trips gone mobile.... I decided I want to hear 1966 - 1978 on the big stereo / surround sound / home theatre system in my family room, so I'm listening to the rest of it backwards, and am reversing the song order as well. No that's not true, why would anyone do that. But I did start with the '95 show. Sounds good, I've always loved Foolish Heart. I saw these guys in Albany in '95 during one of the shows when Jerry was awake, but all the same, I'm a neophyte to this latter era Dead - who is it I hear on keyboards, Vince, Bruce or both? I didn't see anything indicating these are HDCD - did I miss it, or did they not produce it as such?
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Have 11 9 73 from the Winterland box set in perfect condition. Would like to trade for 3 14 90 from spring 90 other one box. pm if interested.
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I'm fairly sure that Bruce only played with them late 90 - 92. Someone correct me if in wrong.
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lol, is that right, 90 - 92? He wasn't playing piano alongside Brent when I saw them in Philly at JFK in '89? Too much weed and whatever else for this guy. I've been telling people for years I've seen Hornsby. These aren't the droids I'm looking for; I can go about my business; move along....move along...
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my understanding as well that bruce left in 92. i think he made a few guest appearances afterward but no longer did tours.
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Bruce left after Spring 1992 I'm pretty sure or about then, but that's just Vinny
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I started right at the beginning. It Sounds Phenom! Next up. We'll see??..?..? But I'll be planted by wi-fi for the weekend! Glad I called in sick today!
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Thanks, I'll take the word of the experts - Vinny it is. I'll tell you what, he is mixed in very nicely on this 1995 show. He doesn't sound on top of it like a lot of the 80s stuff. Jerry's voice sounds good too, so far (I'm up to FOTD). Up to Tennessee Jed now. Leafing through the book. I'm surprised at the difficulty Lemieux had finding good shows in '94 / '95. What were the issues? They were pretty good when I saw them in Albany '95, just eleven shows before Jerry passed away, and I don't recall it being bad or off; but then again, I didn't really know the songs back then.
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a quick Googling (isn't that a CCR song?) found this:Jeff Lester's "Bruce Hornsby's Grateful Dead Performance History": Bruce shows as a guest before he joined: Saturday, June 25th, 1988 - Buckeye Lake Music Center, Hebron, OH (2 songs acc.) Saturday, September 24th, 1988 - Madison Square Garden, NYC (3 songs acc/epiano) Wednesday, July 12th, 1989 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (2 songs) Thursday, July 13th, 1989 - RFK Stadium. Washington, DC (2 songs) Sunday, December 10th, 1989 - Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA (8 songs a/key) Tuesday, July 10th, 1990 - Carter-Finley Stadium, Raliegh, NC (8 songs acc.) Grateful Dead shows with Bruce Hornsby as a regular member: All shows from 9/15/90 MSG through 3/24/92 Auburn Hills except: Saturday, October 13th, 1990 - Stockholm, SW Philly'89 is the Crimson. Red, And Indigo release. Hornsby WAS the opening act but did not sit in with The Dead that night. (If Hornsby was the "really good opening act" to an '80s Dead show, does that make him ... '90s Dead? Hmmm?) Friday, December 14th, 1990 - McNichols Arena, Denver, CO Tuesday, February 19th, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA Wednesday, February 20th, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA Thursday, February 21st, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum Arena, Oakland, CA Saturday, March 23rd, 1991 - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY Sunday, March 24th, 1991 - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY Monday, March 25th, 1991 - Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY Wednesday, March 27th, 1991 - Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY Thursday, March 28th, 1991 - Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY Friday, March 29th, 1991 - Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY Friday, May 3rd, 1991 - Cal Expo, Sacramento, CA Saturday, May 4th, 1991 - Cal Expo, Sacramento, CA Sunday, May 5th, 1991 - Cal Expo, Sacramento, CA Sunday, Novemeber 3rd, 1991 - Polo Fields, Golden Gate Park, SF, CA Friday, December 27th, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Saturday, December 28th, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Monday, December 30th, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Tuesday, December 31st, 1991 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Saturday, February 22nd, 1992 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Sunday, February 23rd, 1992 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Monday, February 24th, 1992 - Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA Shows with Bruce as a guest after his tenure: Saturday, June 20th, 1992 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (accordian) Thursday, March 18th, 1993 - Capital Centre, Landover, MD (accordian, II/E) Friday, June 25th, 1993 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (accordian) Saturday, June 26th, 1993 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (accordian) Friday, March 25th, 1994 - Nassau Colisum, Uniondale, NY (accordian) Thursday, August 4th, 1994 - Giants Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ (accordian, II) Thursday, March 23rd, 1995 - Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte, NC (piano) Saturday, June 24th, 1995 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (piano) Sunday, June 25th, 1995 - RFK Stadium, Washington, DC (piano)
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Posted while I was typing!My post was too long and the end was cut off. Philly '89 is the 7/7/89 CRI release. Hornsby WAS the opening act that night but didn't sit in. (If Hornsby was the "really good opening act" for '80s Dead, does that make him '90s Dead???)
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This IS the last time I will respond to you, like a few others here always who feel the need to belittle those who don't share opinions and personal taste with others in music. Making friendly suggestions on what to check out are one thing, and appreciated. Telling people what they prefer is lesser than what you prefer (ala second rate opening band) is a matter of etiquette. On another note... I received the link so my order must be going through fine. Did a quick glance at some of the earlier set lists and gave a little listen to the opening number from 10/12/84 and have to say that right out of the gate, the very first notes played by Jerry, this show is everything but an opening act second rate performance.
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lol - I DID see Hornsby! Is that right, he opened up for them. Now things are coming together. You have to understand, while I saw them in '89 and '95, I wasn't into them, and even now (as you've gathered), I'm not familiar with that era of the band's history.
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Because I'm tired of your negativity while I'm trying to enjoy posts about the new release. If it's not enough that I explained the comment was not made with nefarious intentions, then who needs you. Cheers to your silence.
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I went straight to '95!! I am not familiar with much past '79. This show was not was I was expecting. Everything sounds great!! And Jerry doesn't sound craggy and the playing is pretty darn tasty! I have taken Dave's words to heart and am giving each era a chance. I might just have to work back words thru history!!
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While waiting for the box and the 30 shows, why not spin one of the VERY BEST shows of '77? Astounding treasure! I'm taking this one with me.
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..and welcome back from Lockin'.I appreciate the heads up.Just picked up Dick's 20 for $25 and a double John Hartford for $10!Mucho Garcias :)
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The Seaside Chat is completely unlistenable with this wind noise; was there really no way to do something about that in post-production?
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I can't believe how much I'm enjoying this '95 show. Truckin' hasn't sounded this good since '73 lol. Ok that may be a stretch, but this Vince guy is Alright with a capital A in my book. Where'd they find him and what's he doing these days? I don't know too many of the remaining songs here, I may have to move on...not enough hours in the day.
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You gotta be kidding me. Googled him. The Tubes of all bands. Can't believe he committed suicide, that's incredible. Well now I like him more, Salut, rest in piece my friend.
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I may not know anything about 80 to 95 but what I've heard from the releases they are in no way shape or form a "opening act." I like the Warlocks box, first spring of 90, and DaP 8 Thanks Spaceman for all your insight on the years I'm not familiar with. it's always a pleasure reading your posts.
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