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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
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August 20, 2016 - 11:39am

#71

supe80

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Box Art Work

I hope someone hasn't asked this already. Does anyone know who did the artwork for the outside of the box?
August 16, 2016 - 12:41pm

#72

johnny361

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hi gang

I spent the day with Cobo 1976. I really like these fall 76 shows with Dicks #20 being a personal favorite since it's release many years ago. This Cobo show is really growing on me with each listen. 30 Trips has been a monster to get through but I love the task! There are still shows I haven't spent time with.. but I will!
August 8, 2016 - 7:16am

#73

KYTrips

Joined:
August 25, 2012

1975

So... this is another show that's a bit tough to grade. It's relatively short for a Dead show (I think it was just one long set), and I'm guessing that they were part of a bill that included other bands at this free show in Golden Gate Park. Also, it's one of only 4 shows that they played in 1975, so I'm guess they were a bit rusty, though you wouldn't think so from the performance itself. It starts off with a really sold Help > Slipknot that sounds a bit strange without the third jewel of Franklin's Tower, but that comes later in the show. Then there's a long break as the band attempt to summons a doctor from the crowd because a woman is apparently having a baby somewhere near/behind the stage. This alone makes the show memorable. They then move into a really, really good Music Never Stopped, followed by They Love Each Other. Beat It On Down the Line is above-average, in my opinion and it's followed by a good Franklin's Tower. Big River is straightforward, and the first disc ends with a routine It Must Have Been the Roses. The second disc starts off with an above-average Truckin' followed by a good jam and Drums. That heads into an excellent Stronger Than Dirt/Milkin' the Turkey which eventually leads into 10+ minute Not Fade Away which is light on lyrics and strong on jamming. The show ends with Going Down the Road Feeling Bad and a very energetic One More Saturday Night. The highlight of this show for me is the Music Never Stopped, but there really are no off numbers in the entire show. It's a consistently good show from start to finish. Overall Grade: B
July 23, 2016 - 8:55am

#74

unkle sam

Joined:
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1990 1994

Just returned from a long road trip and listened to these two shows in their entirety during this trip. 1994 was the first listen. Show starts off with a nice Help>Slip>Franklins that is nice, Jerry in good form and everyone contributing their parts, not the best, but not bad. Then Walkin blues, not my favorite and Bobby's slide work is ok at best, then Atlhea, a good tune done well by Jer. Me and My Uncle, Big River and Just like Tom Thumb's Blues, no real Jerry in MAMU, BR just ok and JLTTB's has Phil taking lead vocals, enough said. An ok So Many Roads and Jerry sounds tired, voice a bit shaky and "old Jerry" sounding. Promised Land is good, with Bobby in fine voice, which ends the first set. Second set starts off with Scarlet>Fire, scarlet is ok but the Fire is grate, with Jerry getting his voice to perform about as good as it can get for these days. Way to go Home is next and I always liked this song, Vince in fine form throughout with Jerry adding some fine lead lines. Then into Saint of Circumstances, no Lost Sailor which I miss and wish they would not have dropped from the list, it's the better of the two tunes. A nice Terrapin with Jerry hitting all the notes and lyrics into a short but very trippy drums into an excellent space with Jerry showing us all that he can still blow heads away. Everytime there is "The last time" after a drums>space you know it was a great drums>space, like you know this could be the last time you ever hear that wonderful sound again. A good but short Stella with Jerry sounding tired in both voice and playing into a good OMSN. The encore is Liberty, a great tune that Jerry flubs the lyric on, but comes back and repeats it right. Thought the sound was ok, but a little boomy All in all a good show but....C+. 1990, good first set with a great Jack-a roe black throated wind ramble on rose and bird song, Jerry in fine voice and playing with bruce on the piano making it all sound nice. The second set here is very good, Chinacat, rider and saint all done well, very deliberate and a bit on the slower side, which is nice. At Crazy fingers and this is where it starts to get real good, the ending jam in Crazy Fingers has a bit of the x factor and was very nice then into Playing>drums>space>playing reprise, just awesome all of it, I highly recommend it. The stella is very nice into throwing stones into a great NFA with crowd chant into a fine one more Saturday nite. All in all a good show from France. The sound was ok, but had a bit of an echo in spots, not sure if it was the audience singing along or an echo, but was a bit distracting in places, a bit boomy in parts also, but all in all, not bad....a solid B. I haven't had time to get to all of them, but these two I took along just to give them a good listen, was not disappointed. For the 90's, both shows were ok, but not the same band we all fell in love with in the 60's and 70's.
July 19, 2016 - 2:12pm

#75

KYTrips

Joined:
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1974

I will go out on a limb here and officially declare the 1974 show as the first "miss" of this embarrassment of riches known as 30 Trips Around the Sun. First of all, there are a few sound-related issues that I had to overcome. The overall sound "quality" is very good, but I definitely thought that Jerry's guitar was too low in the mix (who does that... puts Jerry's guitar low in the mix?!!!?) and then there is the issue with the vocals for the first 2 songs of the second set ("Loose Lucy" and "Big River") which are missing. I mean... they're there, but they're apparently not being picked up by the mic intended to pick them up or they didn't make it to the recorder... Whatever's going on, they're not to be heard in these recordings, unless you lean into the speaker and hear them buried somewhere off in the distance. In any event, it annoys me, and I think it spoils what would have otherwise been a pretty decent "Loose Lucy" (one of my faves). In addition, this show contains a between sets "Seastones." Not my favorite in any case. So... this show was fighting an uphill battle for me. The show kinda begins with the boys being a bit sloppy. The "Uncle John's Band" opener is nice, but uneven. "Jack Straw", "Friend of the Devil" and "Black-Throated Wind" are all unremarkable. The standalone "Scarlet Begonias" is a notch up from the previous songs, but that tune was still really finding its legs in the Dead's repertoire in '74. The next 5 tunes are again, unremarkable. The first CD ends with a nice "To Lay Me Down." I have to admit, I'm partial to this song. I've always loved it and thought it was underrated as a Dead song. The first set ends with a 23+ minute Playing In the Band which is good, but again, nothing special for this era. Then we are faced with "Seastones" and the aural problems mentioned previously to start the second set. A good "Peggy O" and an unremarkable "Me and My Uncle" round out Disc 2. The meat of this show (and presumably, the reason it was included in 30 TATS) is in Disc 3. Things finally take off with a wonderful "Eyes of the World" and the rest of the show is pretty darn good. Highlights for me included the Truckin' > Drums > Caution Jam sequence, which is pretty hot. The "Drums" is particularly interesting in that in addition to Billy on drums, Phil is also participatory in the part of the show. "Ship of Fools" is really nice and smooth and the "Johnny B. Goode" to close the set is also pretty smokin'. "U.S. Blues" is a good encore and a nice way to round out the evening. I'll be brutally honest... I don't think this show would have ever merited release on it's own, so it was, in my opinion, thrown into this box set. I certainly hope it's not the best there is remaining in the vault from 1974. However, I'd be less than honest if I didn't acknowledge that the third disc of the show is pretty darn good. But it certainly was my least favorite show thus far in the box. Grade: C+
July 18, 2016 - 7:59am

#76

KYTrips

Joined:
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1973

It took me a little while longer to get to this review than I would have liked... Life's been busy with vacation and then I was in trial for a week (I'm an attorney... don't throw rocks), so my listening has been sporadic for the past few weeks. At any rate, let me start off by saying that this show is a total GEM!! Although I don't think it's the best of the box, so far, I do think it might be my favorite so far. It starts off again with a "Big Railroad Blues" which to me is a sign of good things to come (see my review from 1972). The next few songs (Jack Straw, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues) are all good, but nothing special. After all, it's just the first set. But then, this show morphs into a classic. "Here Comes Sunshine" is one of those songs that I absolutely love, and that I feel the band didn't play often enough. Accordingly, it was, in my opinion, a treat when it did show up in a setlist. Well... this one may be the best HCS EVER! It's so melodic and the playing so smooth, with a killer jam in the middle of it. It ebbs and flows nicely and you know from this point going forward that "tonight" is going to be "one of those nights." The other part about this show that is a bit different is that the first set is EPIC in length. It's actually longer than the second set, and the goodies start showing up much earlier than in a typical Dead show. I'm not going to go song-by-song, but the remaining highlights of the first set for me are: an appearance of "The Race Is On"; a very nice "Brown-Eyed Women"; "Tennessee Jed" and a late-first set China>Rider. The first set closes out (more than mid-way through Disc 2) with a hot "Around and Around."As good as the first set is, the second set is even better (although I still think the overall highlight of the show is still the "Here Comes Sunshine" in the first set). Due to timing issues, the second set actually starts on Disc 3, with the final three (3) songs on the set appearing at the end of Disc 2. I definitely recommend listening in the order in which the show was played. And let me tell you, Disc 3 is awesome!!! It is basically a non-stop, continuous 70+ minute jam which begins with an excellent "Truckin'" which then morphs into an unbelievable, three-part "The Other One" sandwich, which has "Big River" and "Eyes of the World" for the filling. It is hypnotic the way the boys weave in and out of "The Other One" throughout this portion of the show, never losing stride and hitting on all cylinders. Finally... the last portion of "The Other One" leads into a great "Wharf Rat", and they finally silence their instruments for a few fleeting moments. The show closes with three (3) stand-alones... "Me and My Uncle" (which seems strange to hear this late in a show), "Going Down the Road Feeling Bad" and "One More Saturday Night". They're all good, but it's almost impossible to top that which just went down in the first 70+ minutes of this set. I definitely see myself coming back to this show over and over in the future. Show grade: "A- to A", depending upon my mood. Again... I don't think it's the best show, so far, but I do think it's my favorite!
May 24, 2016 - 11:10am

#77

KYTrips

Joined:
August 25, 2012

Ahhh.... 1972

If ever there was a more stellar year in GD history, I'm not sure what it would be (okay, okay... I realize this topic is up for debate, but I cast my lot with 1972). That being said, I had really high expectations for this show, as I do almost all '72 shows. This one didn't disappoint. However, I do think that this show will suffer a fate of being underplayed by many Heads, as it's so close in proximity to the DP 11 show from the Stanley Theater in Jersey City that took place 3 nights after this gem. I do think the Stanley Theater show is better, but this one is pretty great too. My only knock on this show... I think the sound is a bit spotty. There's one period in the show where the tape hiss is very audible and a bit distracting until you realize you're just gonna have to deal with it. The show opens with one of my personal faves... "Big Railroad Blues". You know a show is gonna be good when they open with this one. Everything in this show is filled with energy. Hell... I even liked "Mexicali Blues" which to me is usually a snoozer. "Loser" and "Black-Throated Wind" both deliver, while the band takes a bit of a breather in a subpar "Cumberland Blues" in my opinion. "Sugaree" is great (as per usual), and is followed by a consistent run of "El Paso", "Tennesse Jed" and BIODTL. In my opinion, this show REALLY gets rolling when they break into "Bird Song" later in the 1st Set. I've heard much better versions of "Big River", but the first set closes with an awesome "Brown-Eyed Women" and a MONSTER "Playing In the Band." Not bad... and that was just the 1st Set!!!The 2nd Set kills! The boys keep raising the pot (no pun intended) with each subsequent song, starting with "Greatest Story Ever Told" and continuing through "Bertha", "Promised Land", a beautiful "Fried of the Devil" and "Jack Straw". Things fall off a bit when they play "Tomorrow is Forever", a short-lived song in the Dead repertoire for good reason in my opinion. Then they ease back into things with MAMU before they head into "Dark Star" which is sandwiched around a nice little drum solo by Billy. Out of "Dark Star"?... Why yes, I do believe I will take a China Cat>Rider. And it's a good one. The show closes with the Bobby one-two.... "Sugar Magnolia" and "One More Saturday Night". All in all, a great show. Grade: A-
May 23, 2016 - 6:56am

#78

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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1971??

I have not gone through the 2nd set of 1971...and yes, I listed 1985 twice, my mistake.
May 23, 2016 - 2:58am

#79

One Man

Joined:
May 17, 2011

1971?

I don't see 1971 on your list. And is something listed twice?
May 16, 2016 - 12:19pm

#80

Cousins Of The…

Joined:
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1984!

I'm usually partial to the 60's and 70s, however this show is tremendous! short but impeccable first set, from beginning to end; second set is quite adventurous, with a long UJB, a standalone Playin' reprise and a killer Morning Dew. My favorite 80's Trip so far. Revising my rankings... 1970 1967 1973 1975 1974 1972 1976 1968 1984 1969 1977 1983 1991 1979 1980 1981 1982 1978 1990 1993 1992 1966 1985 1986 1994 1985 1995 1987 1989 1988

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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
PDF
Text

chastason

"There cannot be too much '67 / early '68 released, according to me." You have my vote Mayor Chastason

Dogon...

I think lots of people got into bluegrass through various bluegrass bands' connections with The Byrds. Certainly that is how I first came across Country Gazette, Clarence White and the Kentucky Colonels and The Dillards. I saw Country Gazette live in Portsmouth in the mid '70s and they were just great, spectacular even. I was also lucky enough to see The Dillards at the Empire Pool in Wembley. I only ever got to see Clarence White with The Byrds in 1970. Shagrat Records have recently released Lawrence Hammond's second and until now unreleased solo album both on CD and vinyl (2LPs). http://shagratrecords.com/shagrat_sales_sclawrence01.html If I remember correctly, the LSE was something of an infamous hotbed of radicalism in the late '60s / early '70s. Must have been an interesting time to be there.

TheDude77...I sent a PM

@dude77

I also bought a new spring 90 Too from ebay. That tray was not damaged when I received it but quickly ripped when I removed the book. If you get a new one, don't touch it or use it. Put it in a glass display case and admire it's undamaged beauty. It is poorly constructed and will not hold up.

Works for me!

Dilemma solved (i.e. whether to spoil the pleasure of one day receiving the Big Box by listening to the streams)! I have to admit I couldn't resist dabbling a bit: the '66 show, natch, and a bit of '72 and '74 because I was there, plus a snatch of '95 to see how it all ended up (nice!). But no more dabbling now since Amazon.fr just kindly delivered me the 4 CD dilettante's version and that should keep me happy until the big day. PS It was delivered along with the new Keith Richards Crosseyed Heart. I know Keef recently dissed the Dead but I forgive him. He had other fish to fry.

jrf68

It's my Uncle John's Band preferred ! The final jam, jazzy, is fantastic.

Grootjes

Is that maybe good day?

Somebody say bluegrass?

Two words Norman Blake

Hey Doc! Diving into 71

I tried to hold off on listening to the stream, aside from a brief sample of each show to get a feel for the sound. But I couldn't do it. Like others, I'm going to wait to listen to my projected favorites (I'm looking at you 1967-69, and 1972-77, and 1979-85). Those will have to wait. Listening to 1971 right now. Me and Bobby McGee is sublime. Loser is great except for Phil's high "harmony." Holy crap. Donna bashers need to listen to that and then compare it to her contributions. Anyway, a BIG thumbs up on this show already.... PS - Never cross the streams!

jrf68 avatar

Hey jrf - love that avatar pic. Is it by any chance the Grand Teton from the vicinity of Death Canyon, towards the Idaho side?

We nearly met, simonrob

Byrds '70. That'd have been the good ol' Albert Hall, right? I was there, bro. Nice to nearly meet you. PS Agree about their wide-reaching influence. I also discovered the ones you mention through them - plus, of course Gram and the Burritos!

florida bluegrass

Thanks Florida for the turn on. I had not heard of Norman Blake, sounds great. So many great pickers and players round here. Shoot I have friends that sit in a garage for fun and just rip it. Was heading to a business meeting Saturday and going down the road (feelin groovy), there was a sign for a festival this weekend. Just said "Annual Bluegrass Festival." with an arrow pointing down some Dark Hollow (holler). Edit: Wierd thing about the friends, only one have I have able to turn on to the GOGD. He also just recently discovered the ABB, and he lived in the same town and crossed paths with ABB family in the early 80's.

Simonrob/Gary

Gary, grootjes= greetings in Dutch.I didnt attend the LSE, just went to the gigs! It did, for a short period have a similar reputation as the university of Nanterre, though revolution was no longer the flavour of the month by the time of the gigs, though Country Joe did try a spot of rabble rousing at the end of the show when the lights came on... Simonrob, yeah, my experiance is pretty much the same as yours, the Byrds connections opened up lots of doors... I know the Hammond stuff, I even had the John Derre tractor song on a Corbett (exYoungbloods) album in a previous lifetime! I guess we could have rubbed shoulders a few times 40 odd years ago without knowing it! Where are you based in the Netherlands?

How big is boxilla

Need to reconfigure my cd shelf. We have a pretty picture of the box, but I cant figure out how big it is....maybe 10 inches by 20 inches. Probably bigger. What do you think?

Thanks, simonrob...

...for the word up. Never knew Lawrence Hammond, but I certainly remember from forty-odd years ago that wonderful song John Deere Tractor - as performed by Jerry Corbitt (RIP) of the Youngbloods.Still sing it sometimes when remembering my early '70s days as a proto-new age farm worker. Will be listening to Lawrence Hammond for sure. Thanks.

Somebody say Norman Blake?

Two words Aereo Plain

Groetjes

Groetjes = greetings

Byrds '70

For me it was at the Bath Festival of Blues and Progressive Music at Shepton Mallett, the same day as Led Zeppelin, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna, Santana, Dr. John, Flock, The Moody Blues & Country Joe McDonald. All in all a pretty good day, but being a UK festival, it rained.

dang addictions

If I have to spend 90-95% of my time listening to the fellas, how do I find time to listen to all of this other great stuff. This goes back to the discussions several weeks back about great concerts. There are acts from those lists I am trying to investigate. Now I am high as hell on caffeine, one for you Doc, and pumped to go see my friends pickin in the garage.

Dogon

I'm in Maassluis, about 15km west of Rotterdam. 4 consecutive posts - and all different!

Simon

Question: How well do you speak Dutch? Was it hard to learn? When I was there, one could hear the foundation in the base language of Latin in that you could hear distinct English and German words. How would you say, May I have another space cake? Smile

Re: Annalee

My guess from the pics and a guess at the contents is a squarer and a little larger than E72 (but not too much). More of a rectangle than suitcase shaped. ..but I am merely guessing.

Simonrob!

Very nicely played sir!

Bluegrass Influences

..wow. There is so much here is such few posts. I have a few separate comments. _______ First.. Norman Blake (fantastic, not surprised our amigo from FL mentioned him). _______ Then Aereo Plain. Produced by David Bromberg. He's performing again after doing nothing but restoring antique and valuable violins for the better part of the last 30 years. Mega talented guy and I have been fortunate to see him on several occasions. Then there is the line-up. John Hartford Norman Blake Vassar Clements Tut Taylor Randy Scruggs _______ Then there is mention of who was influenced by the Birds and Graham Parson & the Flying Burrito Brothers. I left these together because they are country cousins. Now.. who wasn't influenced by these two bands. The connections are widespread enough to crash Ancestry.com That's Americana gumbo music there. I'm a big Burrito amigo.. _______ ..but I can't leave this post without the two most influential faces in Bluegrass. First, unquestionably Bill Monroe and I know its obvious.. but.. Second is Garcia's Bluegrass toy. I recall hearing that, believe it or not, the second most influential band in bluegrass was Old and In The Way.. that they brought it to the white punks on dope mainstream. I could be wrong and this might face some scrutiny.. but maybe there is something to this. Great posts guys.. oh, and Gary F. You need to take some advise from our good friend the forensic doc. Drink More Coffee = Listen to More Music. It works for some of us.

Gary Farseer

Bluegrass is a big fun world! Explore my friend, let YouTube be your guide........

Jim Annalee

I would say 12X12X12 as there were 12 members but that may not be big enough...

The Dutch language...

is an abomination. I hereby offer my excuses to Roland Bruynesteyn (a native Dutch speaker) if he reads this, but it seems something went horribly wrong during the development of the Dutch language, with the unfortunate result that the grammar is just plain weird to say the least. I was never good at languages being more of a science person so even after living here for 30 years it is still something of a problem. I can communicate verbally without any trouble but if I have to write a letter or send an e-mail then Í find it really hard as the grammar has to be good - grammatical errors are so much more obvious in written text. May I have another space cake? Mag ik nog een spacecake? There are, naturally, plenty of shops where one can buy spacecake which is handy - as life should be.

John Hartford

A true giant of American music. Essential listening. I was fortunate enough to see him perform solo one time. He is sorely missed.

And Gram Parsons..........

Is from the lower Central Fla area, Winter Haven is the spot.A friend wrote a book on him not long ago. Author is Bob Kealing. Bob wrote a killer book on another icon that hung in this area ya'll know. Jack Kerouac! few know he lived in Orlando when On the Road hit big and made him huge and he wrote Dharma Bums in a little bungalow in College Park Orlando. Both books on Amazon For those that dig it look up Kerouac House in Orlando. They do a fine writers program in the house. Time Travel............

Jim

should have figured you would have a great Bluegrass post. I did see Bill Monroe twice, but that is back on the who saw what discussion. I have had probably two pots of coffee today, can't come down. Know it would make Doc proud. I think Old and in the Way was the top selling blue grass album for 30+ years until the soundtrack for "O Brother Where Art Thou" came along. Of course that leads us to Ralph Stanley and Union Station... With all my musical tastes, I had to go on about a decade of withdrawal and fasting due to other life factors. I am now trying to get back in the saddle.

Re: SimonRob

That's really funny. I get that about English all the time. I can get by in many languages and have no problem whatsoever. For example: One beer please una cerveza porfavor une bière s'il vous plait een bier graag ein Bier bitte Одно пиво пожалуйста بيرة واحدة من فضلك 请来一杯啤酒 However, I do sometimes find a way to screw up finding the bathroom in certain countries. That can be a big problem.

Bluegrass

I got into Bluegrass thanks to the Greenbriar Boys, great 60's East Coast band. Speaking of Gram Parsons & the Burritos, I highly recommend First Aid Kit, a new(er) band from Sweden; two sisters with truly great harmonies.

Dutch roots

Hi Gary - not to get all pedantic (sorry), but Dutch, English, and German (and Swedish, Danish, etc) are not derived from Latin. They are in the Germanic language family (hence the similar words you heard). Whereas the languages that derive from Latin include French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian... the "Romance" language family (because of their connection to the Roman Empire). Though southern Britain was part of the Roman Empire too, the Latin language was totally wiped out by the invading Germanic Angles and Saxons in the Early Middle Ages. The reason why English has so many words that are connected to Latin is because the Normans conquered England in 1066 and brought proto-French with them. This became overlaid on the Germanic English base. For example, the nobles for many decades spoke French, so the meat on their plate was something like "boeuf" which became "beef" -- and the Saxon/English peasants in the fields used the Saxon/Old English word, which became "cow." So to this day, we never say the "cow" on our plate looks good, we call it "beef." So lucky us, we have lots of differently derived words for the same thing. Okay, sorry about that unsolicited lecture (I'm a damn history professor), back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Byrds '70

So that makes twice we nearly met, Simon (I was at Bath too)

thanks Claney

great catch. I was buzzing too much on coffee to even edit myself. Question for my information. So how do the migrations of families work. I have always wondered about English and German. Have friends with the name Saunders and Sanders. I have never researched but guess I should; Anglo Saxon is the connection isn't it. Saxony was an original German province, so Anglo Saxon are the Anglish with roots in Saxony? So glad I know you are a history teacher, get ready to do some splaining... edit: guess this tie's into the main paragraph of your explanation but I still want to be taught. Do not like having to work for it...j/k

Claney

That was very enjoyable. Merci!

Latin...

"Though southern Britain was part of the Roman Empire too, the Latin language was totally wiped out by the invading Germanic Angles and Saxons in the Early Middle Ages." I beg to disagree here - I come from southern Britain and if latin was totally wiped out in the middle ages, why the fuck did I have to learn it at school?

What you learn in 45 years

1970. Let it Be is issued. I hear it but on For you Blue. I have NO idea what the line Same Ole 12 Bar Blues means! Nor do I have a clue who Elmore James is...Listening to the record today...actually LIB Naked. Smiling like a fool remembering my ignorance.

hahaha language

here we sit always having problems communicating because of language. I was sidetalking with Doc I think a couple weeks back about the Sop the Cerberus stuff. Yeah Simon, I too had two years of Latin and as I told Doc, I had to translate The Aeneid from Latin to English as a senior in HS. Did great on the translation but the story went over my head. And it is definitely difficult to communicate well on this board due to the fact (I think a fact) that 90% of communication is non-verbal. So as we cannot see each other it can be easy to piss someone off without meaning to...

Holy $%*t!!!!

The Morning Dew from 1987 is EN FUEGO!!!! I put that show on for background music as I was slaving away here at the office and my face just partially melted off! Wow! Good stuff.

1990 TOO extras

I seem to recall that there was someone on Ebay trying to unload some of the extras from that box set. You might check there, despite the fact that your faulty box was purchased there. Good luck!

Good good stuff!

Keep bringing it guys! Love the back and forth! GP, The Buritos', Elmore, oh yea and that soul searching hippie band we all love so much! Not gonna stream. Although mighty tempting. I will dream a sweet dream tonight of The Shrine; circa 1967. Sammy T

hey now claney

That is indeed the GRAND! The photo was taken about a week and a half ago by my beautiful older sister. She came out from N.C. for a little vacation & had never been up the tram at JHMR,so up we went.So this shot is actually from the top of Rendezvous Mountain(JHMR) looking due north. However,with such great zoom-in & focus on new cameras you are seeing Death Canyon there in front a bit.Good eye my friend!Cheers! :)

bluegrass-migrations-whikey

Well have to head for now...another great day in deadland. Love it when everything is in copacetic harmony...(hmmm 50th box top cover) Let us push furthur. As the children migrated they brought with them whiskey (whikey) and roots music of England/Scotland. The southern preachers were some of the biggest distillers and of course the music of England/Scotland (cannot remember the term) became Bluegrass or mountain music with its rich history in the Appalachians. The mountain music (as well as the polyphonics and melodies of classical music based in the N.E.) pushed out beyond the Eastern region thanks to the grand ole opry and other stations, merged with African rhythms from new Orleans to create the next explosive art form. Simon/Dogon/Claney any input from history on any of these connections? Always like new discoveries. I am sure Simon you know the name of the old English roots music. Scotch Whikey became basically bourbon or Tennessee sippin whikey.

splices

I've been listening in order (as is my plan again when the Box arrives), and I was trying to hold off on listening to the major jam of 11/14/73 until I was home, as I listened to the rest at work yesterday, but I listened since I'm stuck late. I noticed there was about a 2 minute AUD splice in the first Other One, and then about a minute in Wharf Rat. Oddly, I didn't recall those patches in the Miller SBD on the Archive, and there aren't any notes of patches on that one... The sound is very good on the box so far. The best sound so far has been the Shrine '67, '72, and what I've just started in the Paris '74 show. That is outstanding, even on these crappy work computer speakers. At home, the Shrine show just blasted out of my studio monitors, THAT is one of the best sounding releases I've ever heard. I'm digging this more than I imagined I could just a couple months ago. I may not have the box and goodies in hand, but I have been able to listen to some outstanding Dead! Thanks to Dave & Rhino for undertaking this behemoth project!

Tetons (and Yosemite)

To my eyes are the most beautiful places in the contiguous 48 states. I climbed the middle 25 years ago (up and down in a day). Good fun, absolutely spectacular. I had my eyes on the Grand but it eluded me and that bird has flown. You are a lucky man jrf.. and you have excellent taste in music (and friends). Nice pic indeed.

Clarence White

I saw the Byrds twice in the early 70s at the Capitol Theater, Port Chester. That was an amazing band, Roger (Jim) McGuinn, Clarence White, Gene Parsons (no relation to Gram) and Skip Batton. The Byrds "Untitled" album is a classic. It was around 1976 living in western Montana that the significance of the Emmy Lou Harris, Gram Parsons,The Byrds, Burrito Brothers and yes even the Egos I mean the Eagles started to take on meaning for me. My friend Kit Walker from the band "The Stokers" out of Stevensville turned me on to Emmy Lou's first three albums, played the hell out of those LPs. Along around 1977 the Flying Burrito Brothers played at the Top Hat Bar in Missoula. It was Skip Batton and Gene Parsons from the Byrds, Gib Gilbeau out of Louisiana,and Sneeky Pete Kleinow. Sneeky Pete on pedal steel may have been the only original member. They killed it. Possibly the best music I ever took in at the Top Hat. Several years later(1982)I saw a completely different line-up of the Burritos at the Line Camp in Pojoaque, New Mexico. Not one original member and they bit the bagwan. Gram Parsons was visionary but also completely reckless. Clarence White with the Byrds was as I once heard possibly the greatest flat picker next to Doc Watson. (and Jerry)

Great folk thread, folks

..and sort of dead related. Gary, I think you have the jest of it and nice transition to distillation which brings us full circle to hairy hillbilly (which I think started it all off). Whiskey is a worthy subject too. Whiskey in the Jar (Irish folk? Scottish Folk??), Whiskey for Breakfast (Classic Norman Blake). ..and if you don't mind me talking a little liberty, whiskey and a little Live at the Boarding House on my front porch, sun setting over the mountains as I write this. I've had that CD for a couple months and have not given it a spin yet.. I will always have a soft spot for Old and In the Way. Thanks guys, have a good night. ______ One edit: I am trying hard to not stream some of this box. Its getting harder and harder to do. Happy hour contraband is Forged Oak Orphan Barrel. Pretty good stuff.

@ KYTrips..

Yesterday I e-mailed that guy who was selling the CDs and extras from the Spring 1990 (TOO) box on eBay. He claims to have thrown out the rest of the box.

Jack Straw '80

Is it just me, or did this song take on an entirely new persona shortly after Brent joined the band? I just listened to the '79 version (compare the 2 years on the stream for yourself) and it's still got that older feel to it. By 1980, it seems that this song was starting to get its groove. Of course, by '89 it was just a powerhouse of fun. Even the FTW version was rockin'! I will say that Jerry shines on that '79 version, though ;-)

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