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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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  • lowspark75
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    Looks like we pretty much got the same box. Yours is 30 editions after mine(0580) exactly and has the same pass/ticket. I have noticed the material on the bottom of my box, which looks like the rings of a tree, is already splitting/tearing in spots. That's a small bummer. Off to work... wish I could call in and Trip out. At least I have '66-'71 on my phone already to listen to while earning my pay.
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    Sorry, I respectfully disagree. Although the wording was ambiguous on the dead.net site regarding the "memorabilia of the time", I do not think they meant to imply "originals" as they definitely did mean to imply with the released news for the current box. Even on the tickets included in the Hampton box, there is no attempt at all made to hide the fact that these are replicas: they each have WORLDWIDETICKETCRAFT.COM printed plainly on the back, a company that did not even exist until 1999. I'm willing to place a friendly wager on this, if you like :) I'm 99% sure of this, but I take back my left nut risk. Still, 99%. Would you like to wager on this?
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    Box #3793 survived “mail innovations” without mishap and has landed safely in the mountains of west Texas. Everything looks just exactly perfect. With extra time to wait and read early reports, I was worried about what I’d find in the shipping box. I couldn’t be more pleased with what was inside (and I’m an artist). The 30 Trips Box was well conceived and has been beautifully executed. I trust those with damaged boxes get their problems corrected promptly. FYI: Red Felt Ticket: Cal Expo 5/27/93 (coincidentally my 50th birthday!) Pass: Charlotte Coliseum 3/22/95 My Grateful Dead Memory: included in the well-made book. BTW: One of the 4 phases of the moon on the top of the box was reported earlier to have “already rubbed off”, but it actually is featureless and represents a New Moon. I know: ENOUGH ALREADY! . . . TO THE MUSIC!
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    I went online to find original GD tickets from the 80's or 90's mail order variety (as opposed to ticketmaster), looking for one that had excellent photos of front and back. One of the things I found is that on the back there is some writing, it looks like maybe from a stamp, sometimes in pinkish red ink, sometimes in greenish ink, barely visible because it is placed over the regular wording. Using a strong magnifying glass I could make out some of the words, including "international" and "copyright". The tickets included in the new box have this (at least mine does), but the ones in the '90 box do not. Also, because of counterfeiting problems in the late 80's and 90's, I believe you should be able to see something under an ultraviolet light, but I don't have one. I'd bet my left nut these are originals, as they said they were. As far as the passes, yes there obviously are lot less of these, but also a much higher percentage of all those printed for each show would actually be unallocated. Again, I bet that 6,500 out of 9 years of shows is a very small fraction of the number they actually have in the archive in pristine condition.
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    I completely agree. My ears always adjust to whatever sound quality issues are in the recording, unless it's truly something unlistenable, which none of these even comes close to being. It never affects my enjoyment of the music, because as you said, I am very quickly immersed in the music itself at which point I am no longer even conscious of sound quality issues - I'm back into that musical space letting it take me where it will. But, yes, the switch to the AUD patches can be jarring. Someone mentioned that for the small patches it's not a big deal at all, and I agree. The only patch I remember lasting longer than a few seconds, or even a minute or so, is the 1981 show which has a substantial amount (about 30 minutes) as an AUD patch. I'm still glad they released this show - what are they gonna do, hold it back forever because they don't have the end except as an AUD. I'm fine with it.
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    wjonjd sfrank115 rrot Tape hiss is OK for me
    The worst sound quality consensus that I get is 81 (for the aud patch) and 82 (for the hiss) as worst sounding shows. But I don't even hear hiss, my ears adjust. I think because I am old enough that I grew up on LPs that frequently had tape hiss. Actually, the presence of tape hiss is a plus in my opinion. It means that the engineer didn't use processing to suppress the hiss (and, almost inevitably, kill the delicate upper harmonics). I just listen through it and the mind/ear cancels it out, although I can understand it would be more of a blemish for folks that grew up with digital audio. So I'll take 1981 as the "worst" quality recording and start there. Thanks for the comments. I'm enjoying reading all the responses to the various shows and look forward to the day, some day, when they deliver the USB set!
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    Here's what it says on dead.net about the Formerly the Warlocks box: "This collector’s set comes packaged in a wooden replica of a cigar box (Virginia being a tobacco state dating back to colonial times), and is filled with all sorts of goodies, from a photo-laden historical essay to various pieces of cool memorabilia from the time." Doesn't specify whether the tickets are replicas or originals. But it does say "various pieces of cool memorabilia from the time." Are we assuming that anything in that cigar box actually dates to 1989, physically? I've never assumed that. I kind of think "original" for the 30 Trips swag means the same thing as "from the time" does for the Warlocks box. It's "original" and "from the time" in the sense of being a faithful reproduction of original stuff that actually survives from the time in question...
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    wjonjd, your math works, certainly. But let's just say it's a miracle that those extra tickets, which would have been considered basically trash at the time, were kept in archival conditions for decades *before being handed over to an archive*. And that doesn't account for the 6500 backstage passes, which would have been printed up in far smaller numbers to begin with, and numbers presumably far closer to what was actually required. And note that the passes in the 30 Trips box are also in mint condition. So I'm still skeptical. You're right that the promo material for the Spring '90 box specifies that the tix and passes are replicas. Then again, since that's promo material meant to convince people to buy the box, it may have had more careful lawyering on the language. Since everybody getting the email about the 30 Trips box had already paid for it, and nobody was expecting the ticket and pass, I could imagine whoever composed the email not being as careful about the wording. Not that I imagine any intention to mislead, just a hastily written email meant to forestall a bunch of Deadheads impatient for news of the box. I want to stress, for whatever GD organization people might be reading, that if these are repros, I'm not complaining! I'm as happy with a reproduction as I would be with an original. I'm listening to 11/10/67 now. Gawd this is good.
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    Sorry, my post must have come off not as I intended - I do that sometimes. I just meant to point out that I think they meant it when they said they're originals. I'll look for the equivalent materials in the Spring 90 boxes that said those were repros. I do know someone who is a very good friend of one of the original band members for many years. He has told me lots of stories over the years, and even just a good friend would normally get lots, or at least several, tickets to the shows, especially the later year stadium/arena shows. Just think how many were probably allocated to band members, road crew, production staff, venue executives and/or staff, etc. Large numbers of those probably went unused occasionally. The tickets they included are only from a few shows, but I think I saw at least what 10 or 11 different dates there. Let's say that 15 dates were included in all 6500 boxes. That's only 433 (average) per show. You don't think they have in their possession 430 tickets for venues that held over 20,000 (Oakland Coliseum holds over 60,000) ticketable seats? At 4 tickets per person, that's just over 100 people's worth of "extras". That doesn't even include any shows that weren't literally sold out (it looks like there are more tickets for some dates than others), or for which many tickets may have been held out of sale for some reason. 6,500 tickets spread over 9 YEARS of shows (I've seen tickets here range from 1986 thru 1995) is not very many. Edit: I would guess it's a fairly small fraction of the number of original tickets and passes that they have in their possession in the archives.
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    Here is what is says (I think unchanged since it was originally put up) on the dead.net website about the contents of the Spring 90 TOO box (just a part of it, and my bolding): What's Inside: •144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson •A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner • Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows. •8 complete shows on 23 discs •3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD •3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT •3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario •3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY •3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY ...
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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A much improved sound over previous soundboard sources that I have heard over the years!One HOT Stranger!
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I'm ordained thru the Universal Life Church,so if ya can't get to the Pope just drop me a line! ;) And Happy Birthday to Hundred Year Hall! 20 years today!

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Before San Fran. Came into full bloom Greenwich Village was the scene. This doc was brilliant in its history and showing the folk music bloom that lead to the 60 s proper. I loved this movie and will revisit it I think a time or two. Amazing footage of a really important musical era. As a folkie today, I love when homage is paid like this.If you get a chance, view it. Great film EDIT. I did chuckle because not one mention was made of The Kingston Trio! Yeah I know they where the "establishment" folkies, but they sold a boatload of records.
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He really built something nice out there. Thanks for the good read.

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God that was Fantastic! My wife was laughing cause I knew nealy all the players and songs! Do you remember how great this stuff was on an AM radio going down the street in summer in like a GTO?We're so lucky to have heard this when it was fresh. In today's music world it's a completely different game. Sight read a Chart? Hahaha how many can still do that? Loving these features on Flix. Ginger Baker and I are set for morning coffee........
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Hey everyone. Totally going out on limb here, but check out the 'I Fought The Law' from 1993 show. It's totally rippin'. Can't wait for this set!!!
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An excellent documentary, and if you don't watch it, GINGER WILL BEAT YOU!
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I've watched them all. Muscle Shoals was definitely a favorite. The Other One was good. The Ginger Baker one was interesting, mostly to learn more about him. I do still need to watch the Keith Richards doc. I am a whore for Rockumentaries.
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Can anyone help ?My order status says October 31 - here we read Mid-October ? So what will happen ? Anyone knows ? BTW : I love the 91 show - can?t resist to listen to the downloads , well the needle shoves into the brain peace
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Currently, if you order the USB edition, "add to cart" on that page, the next page will have a description of the item in the 1st left column read: USB product estimated to ship between Oct 9 - Oct 31, 2015 applied Credit Card Payment Only (in red lettering). There is a 2nd column, "action", a 3rd with quantity and a 4th column with "Availability" that reads: Ships on Oct-31-2015. I don't really know, but I await the shipping notice email anytime after October 9th. I would be very happy if the shipping notice email would appear in my my mailbox on October 9th and the physical box set would arrive at my house in the 3rd week of October.
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I am far from the PTB, but I believe Oct. 31 is a "place-holder", or worst-case-scenario, meant to be the end of the line. Computers don't like things like "mid-October" or "October 15th-ish". 10-31 fits in computer world. I think (read: hope!) we'll get our stuff before Halloween...
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That's all, folks!
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thanx for your thouhts , so we all just sit and wait....sometimes we all just sit.... don`t know why but it`s a unique feeling , like waiting for christmas.....hey , Santa , don`t forget me over here
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thanks for the 9/25/91 and 9/26/91 suggestion - next to never go beyond 89/90 happy Sunday, Pope is in philly, out to stack some firewood and hoping the Birds don't start the season 0-3 -- though, sure there are a number of NFL fans that would be ok with that ;)
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As Tom Petty said, "The waiting is the hardest part!"
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Double-post? Yeah...
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Guys, I have to say - Dave Lemieux absolutely got it right when he said the '90 - '95 shows weren't just "good shows for those years" but great shows overall. I have not been streaming anything except the 80s and 90s, and I am totally impressed with these Vince shows. If someone never heard the Dead before, and these were their first listen, I don't think they'd have any complaints. Vince is very nicely mixed, better than Brent has been since mid-80s (too loud from '87 - '90), and his vocals blend in with the rest of the band so smoothly; Jerry is playing well and singing well enough (I have to give him some leeway for age - everybody's singing voice ages, except maybe Ace Frehley - for some mysterious reason he sounds just like he did in 1978 - probably because he comes from Outer Space); Bobby is solid as ever and I actually have an easier time hearing him in the mix than in a lot of the '70s shows; and Bill and Mickey sound just fine (I prefer the acoustics of their drum sounds from the '70s, but hey, equipment and amplification has changed). I would say the hi-lights are Vince and Jerry. Sooo nice to hear Jerry play well in any year or band, and Vince sounds well integrated in the band - his chops are good, his timing is good, and his discretion is excellent (i.e. when to play and when NOT to play). Highly recommend these shows as a starting point in your 30 Trips endeavor.
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I love reading so many comments praising the 90's shows. Especially from those who admittedly were skeptical of 90's Grateful Dead. As someone who only started listening to the Dead in late 1990 (after Brent had passed), and only saw handful of shows in 1991 and 1993, this is the Dead as I first witnessed them. And yes, they were still good. There was definitely some magic still left in them as a band. For what it's worth, I'm also a fan of the Road Trips series, and the Cal Expo '93 set (including the bonus disc) is one that gets a lot of play from me. A LOT! I think part of what makes it work so much is that the rest of the band had to step up a little to fill in the gaps left by Jerry's decline. Sure, the best shows were still the one's where Jerry was playing his best, but then wasn't that the case in all eras? I also think that the number of folks coming out and saying, "Hey, I really like this show from '95, and I usually don't listen to '90s Dead" is one of the reasons Dave wanted to put out this career-spanning, 30-years box set It sort of puts their music from all era's in context. By making the set available as "all-or-none," Dave and the Big Box also asks some of us to step outside our comfort zone and explore eras of the bands playing that we might otherwise avoid. On that note, I'd say they've succeeded already! Well done, Dave!
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Given that '85 is probably my favorite 80s year after '89 (maybe '81), I was somewhat surprised that 6/24 is my least favorite show in the box. I can't help but hope that the reason they didn't select one of the next few shows is that we're going to get a mini-set of 6/28, 6/30, and 7/1 in the future. edit- ok, I probably like the '82 show the least, but that's more to do with the SQ than the actual show. edit2- I was also wondering about 5/16/81. It's a hot show, no doubt, but the fact that they used an audience patch for such a significant portion of the show (easily the largest patch they've used to date), cannot bode well for other potential releases from this year. There's other candidates from May or Fall that could have challenged 5/16 had they been complete. I'm guessing there are issues with other shows too.
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Ever notice Jerry doesn't pluck away on the main Samson theme in '76 versions? He some fills and soloing while everyone else carries the melody. Not jazzed about these versions, prefer '77 and forward.
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Thanks uv1! I'm the same as you - first show was October '90. I read all the comments on here and I start to wonder sometimes..."Gosh, didn't I have a good time at those shows I went to? Wasn't the music good?" And listening to the '95 show (the only '90's show in the box I've listened to so far) I'm reminded that yes, they were still good, fun enjoyable shows. I remember the description of Cal Expo '93 (the show I went to - May 27) in the current, at that time, "Unbroken Chain" as an "epic" show. All three of the Shoreline June '95 shows were excellent. I remember standing on the lawn and watching the people in the seated section looking like fields of wheat waving together in the wind to Ramble On Rose. Excellent! Thanks Jerry! And I'm not even going to mention the awesome Standing on the Moon at those June Shoreline shows. Thanks again Jerry!

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Whoa this guy is a charmer eh? Had no idea he is or was this F ed Up.I mean I knew a great deal about him, but this was an eye opener! Oh well everybody can't be a nice guy eh? Happy Sunday.
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Saw it last year. Was also surprised how screwed up he is, but also how musically schooled he is. I knew he was a great drummer, but to hear him talk about it, there is clearly nothing unplanned when playing live. He scoffs at Moon, which says a lot about his approach to music. I don't think he appreciates Moon's talent and uniqueness. Nobody else in rock n roll is a lead drummer, and it"s almost impossible to replicate Moon, because his drumming was an extension of his explosive disposition. Few drummers' personalities are mirrored in their style to the great extent that Moon's is. It's the element that drove The Who's live sound. Everyone else was a passenger on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Listening to I Need A Miracle from the Closing of Winter land. Fantastic. Perfect. The best. And it's good too... On to Playing in the Band. Love this mix, I can hear everyone, and Phil especially sounds good. I get a chuckle when people put down Keith in '78 - he plays as well as ever on pretty much everything I've heard, including this Playing. It is true that his talents are not showcased in the later years, but I maintain that's a product of the music's style, not any personal limitations.
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Wow, you guys are making my decision not to stream harder and harder! I decided just before the delay in shipping was announced to go on a GD fast, in order to drool even more heavily than usual when I got Boxilla in my mitts, but the plan got pretty hard to follow-through on when the shipping-later-than-Sept announcement came through. I've of course cheated--listened to the 9/11/73 DStar several times this week--but am generally trying to give some of the rest of the music collection some exercise so that my aural tastebuds are primed & even hungrier than usual for the GOGD. Deep into Cecil Taylor at the moment, and Los Lobos are entertaining me a good bit, too. I have to second that emotion w/r/t the kindness of '90s Dead getting some love. I was too young to experience Pig, TC (seen him since), Donna (seen her since), or Keith with the band, and I just missed catching Brent. I don't usually reach first for 1990s GD (I'm generally a 69/70 and 73/74 kind of listener), but sometimes nothing will do but Vince-era. It's all good, depending on mood and timing, and I hope we all get a few surprises out of this box. Anyway, happy anniversary of every show the GD ever played on 9/27 (here's looking at YOU Stanley Theater!). Out of curiosity: I'm planning to listen to the Box chronologically, but, with a job, a spouse, and 3 kids, I don't get enough uninterrupted headphone-time to expect that this won't take me several months (took me about 6 months to get through the E72 materials). So my crisis is that I am not sure what I'll do when DaP 16 (and 17, and maybe 18) arrives. Do I stop my Boxilla experience to groove on Dave's latest fave, or do I wait and wait until I've finished out the Box experience to listen to the next tasty treat from DL? Anyone else have a plan to accommodate this earth-shattering problem? It'll be a hard choice either way. As Oscar Wilde said, I can resist anything except temptation. I know ... it's all good, and I wish these were the biggest problems we all had everyday! FWIW, my half-year-long excursion through E72 was not hitch-free. I got to the penultimate disc of the box and found it skipped. In spite of the long time since order shipment, Dr. Rhino sent me a replacement within a week. Whatever complaints there are about TPtB on other people's parts, I have to give them some cred & mucho gratitude for coming through when I needed it! And, I don't recall who said it first, but the upcoming Dylan bootleg series release shows you how well treated we 'heads are. $600 for 18 CDs? No thanks, even for this Dylan freak. I'll go for the 6-CD version, probably, in the end, but can't help feeling cheated even there. I have everything the man's released, on vinyl and CD, but when I compare his catalogue to what we're getting from Rhino, I feel disappointed (as a BD fan) and grateful (as a GD fan). Now if only Dylan would step out on stage for some of the Dead & Co shows ....
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My advice to ckcoffman (and others) is to first rip the discs in the box to iTunes or your other favorite software. That's a quick way to find out whether any discs are defective. You can then listen at your leisure. I haven't yet listened to any of the streamed concerts. Recently listened to Dave's Picks 15 - wonderful stuff. Since there's a fade between discs from Rhythm Devils to Not Fade Away, I used software (in my case, Amadeus Pro) to edit the two together, so I now have a seamless performance from Estimated Prophet through to Sugar Magnolia.

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Moonie was the best in my book. Love his approach. Unparalleled in RockGinger considers himself as Jazz. I see that and his choices are spectacular too. But himself as a person? Summer's Eve comes to mind!
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lol, right you are Florida. I felt a little bad for him throughout the movie; but then toward the end, his son said he blew him off, and that Ginger had already blown the millions he received from the Cream reunion shows. Talk about blowing a second chance - that's not just down-on-your-luckedness, that's bonafide Summer's Eve! I do love that late 60s tube amplification stage sound of Cream and others, especially with the Who and the Marshall Stack configuration. It's crazy to think now, how short a span all of those late '60s bands existed on stage. The scene was pretty much changed for good within 10 years.

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Tube amps! Love um. I once owned a Mesa Boogie Mk 3 Simulclass that had the most rich warm melt your soul sound I ever heard. Loved that box. Had to be played LOUD just had to be haha.Sold it along with most of my road gear, but picked up a little Orange solid state amp, and for $239. It's a screaming lil monster. Very nice tone at any volume. The days of huge Marshalls are pretty much over. Such a pain to move them around. Plus these new Little boxes make great sound. One thing I learned that amazed me is Jimmy Page and his fav recording amp. It was a little amp as well! He miked it up perfectly. Distance is Depth! Page learned a lot from the ole 50s engineers. I read Ginger has pretty bad COPD now too. It showed with the chain smoking in the movie. Very sad story blowing through 5 million bucks and being dirt poor cause you can't withhold your compulsiveness. What's the line about a fool and his money?
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Loved the E72 Dark Star blow-by-blow, 6-tus. Now, who wants to host a web repository (blog form or whatever) for this kind of thing? I'll contribute a review of every song version officially released on CD -- including 30 Trips, eventually. All of the others are done already, they just need a loving home and the chance to interact with other reviews. PM me!
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...and regarding Ginger Baker. You know full well that any of us would just as quickly blow through $5 million if we got our hands on it and there was $5 million worth of previously unreleased Dead recordings to be purchased.
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Personally, there are drummers who I like better than either of those guys. I think Michael Shrieve was possibly better than either. Phil Collins, Stuart Copeland and Levon Helm are a few more of my favorites.

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Man Im pretty tight with the cabbage. If I had that kinda war chest I doubt seriously you'd see me blow it. But you never know.I agree Mr Copeland is a top notch skin man.
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Thanks for the tip regarding 1981 new years eve,I have just finished listening,what a fantastic show. I also enjoyed finding the first set with Joan playing,shame that the quality is not soundboard standard. There is always room for another G D box set,but are there enough full shows left in the vault? So far I have only listened to the single from the 30 trips download,still hoping to avoid listening to any full shows until I get the physical CDs,me thinks the box is less than 12" square,otherwise we could have had a 12" record rather than a 7" single. Look forward to seeing the Lunar eclipse in a few hours here in the UK.
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Is there a verdict on how the USB version will treat the concerts vs the physical version? Obviously, USB doesn't have the CD-length limitation, so the concerts can theoretically run uninterrupted. For example, the '73 show's Jam necessitated a track re-order, and '78 splits the jam @ Drums/NFA. So I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside). Anyone know? Thanks!
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Sitting here, having some 6.9% Octoberfests and listening to 3/25/72. Great show, I love the Academy of Music run. Should have been a box set. What do u think? Ive said this before, I'll say it again: JimInMD is a stand up fuckin guy!.....and I say that with the utmost respect!.....he knows!!!!
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....or in tonight's case, a brand new full eclipse, harvest, blood red, supermoon! Go outside, look up, and Get Some!!!....awesome....
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Oswald55 asked, "I'm wondering if the shows run uninterrupted on the USB or if they're, essentially, only digital copies (FLAC aside)." I sent a similar question to customer service and David L. several weeks ago (when I ordered the USB version). I was told that the engineers delivered two completely separate masters, one for the CD, one for the USB. My question had to do with audio quality (is the USB just a FLAC of the CDs), and the helpful answer was, no, the USB is distinct. I did not ask about track sequencing; hopefully they will give us everything is the correct order, but it doesn't much matter in the end. We can resequence those files on a playing copy with no loss of sound quality. Similar can be done with the CDs, but only by resequencing and then burning to a new CD (otherwise the HDCD decoding will be lost). I mentioned somewhere else that the Spring TOO download version runs in performance order without fades, so far as I know, but not having heard the CDs, no idea if they are different.
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I am one of those who prefer to wait for the box, and so I have not listened to digital files (except China> Rider of 10/27/1990, which I love). I'm so impatient! (Excuse my English, I'm French).
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Nice drummer discussion, compliments of Mr. Baker, I believe. I love all those mentioned.. I am partial to the multi-limb schizophrenia of Bill Bruford as well. I recently took a youtube spin of his work and bands and was completely absorbed as about an hour disappeared from space and time.
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Overcast and raining.. I didn't even know it was going on. Coincidentally, however, I spent my predawn hours listening to the Dark Star > Morning Dew from Dave's 13, almost a year since my first spin. Up way too early drinking some kona, great music to plan out my week. What a powerful performance.

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Hi JiminMD here in fla. we were robbed because of the weather from seeing the eclipse. The Moon was Obscured by Clouds.............But I did Find a bunch of songs which dealt with the Moon. Sisters of the Moon by Fleetwood was a cool remembrance. Of course we were Standing on the Moon with the Dead, then Walking on the Moon with the Police, etc. There are a lot of songs dealing with the Moon! Mankind has been thinking about that glistening glob of celestial cheese a long time. Starting off the week in Winterland 73, 11-11 to be precise. From there the course is wide open. All the Best to you Kind Folk
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The best drummer I have ever seen live is Joe Russo......end of story.
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I am very fond of a couple drummers mentioned in this thread, but I am really glad to see Michael Shrieve and Bill Bruford mentioned. I am a drummer, and when I was a teenager, I regularly watched live footage of Shrieve like it was porn. I was fortunate to catch King Crimson twice in '95 on the Thrak tour, and the interplay between Bruford and Pat Mastelotto was nothing short of wizardry. Bruford is a trickster, and he is not only obsessively precise, but well versed in the art of ridiculously obtuse time-signatures. Do yourself a favor and check out the Deja Vrooom DVD, most of which is on YouTube. However, with the DVD, I believe you can choose your viewing perspective. Moon is mentioned, probably my favorite drummer. It is really his energy and total chaos that hits me somewhere deep. Ginger: I actually started playing because of Ginger. I was 12 and begging for a left handed electric axe when my Dad played me "Do What You Like" from the Blind Faith LP. That was a defining moment, and I decided to play drums in that moment. I was a huge Ginger fan, and I still appreciate him. But, what appealed to my early teen brain (loud showmanship style drumming-double bass solos and what not) never lost its appeal, but my taste matured. I still dig Baker's work with Cream and Blind Faith, but hearing him (and Clapton and Bruce) on that live recording a few years ago, well, that is one of the most boring recordings I have ever heard. Other drummers who inspired me through the years, Stephen Perkins (Jane's Addiction)-I saw Jane's a couple times in my early drumming years before they broke up, and Perkins was a huge inspiration; Matt Cameron (Soundgarden and subsequently Pearl Jam)-Crazy rhythms and ghost beats, unique time signatures, excellent precision; Jaimoe and Butch Trucks (ABB)-possibly the "easiest" drum duo to watch play, just fluid and groovin', two-drummer shufflin'; Jim Keltner and Jim Gordon- just listen to "Mad Dogs and Englishmen", just about any Delaney and Bonnie LP, and Derek and the Dominoes; Tony Allen (Fela Kuti and the Afrika 70)-just sick!; and there are so many more. I always find musician comparing conversations fascinating, and how easily we start to blur the line between our preferences and individual tastes and fact with statements like "best", greatest ever", and so on. These musicians all have their own very distinct musical voices, and they are almost impossible to compare. I love these conversations and hearing who everyone loves and why.
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Charlie Watts. He's never mentioned in "greatest drummer" conversations. He should be.
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